WhatthefuckhasObamadonesofar?

[GroobySteven]

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

[Prospero]

Excellent Seanchai. Totally required reading.

[RallyCola]

if only dems were 1/2 as good as marketing as republicans...people might actually know these facts

[MHarrigan82]

Excellent find Seanchai. I am going to send that link to some of my friends.

[bubbski]

if only dems were 1/2 as good as marketing as republicans...people might actually know these facts

Excellent Podcast that addresses just this issue:
http://soundcloud.com/decodedc/mind-control

[GroobySteven]

if only dems were 1/2 as good as marketing as republicans...people might actually know these facts

That's the truth.
Extremists always get their message across.

[RallyCola]

That's the truth.
Extremists always get their message across.


2 things...

1) i hate quoting bill maher, but "that's america....the genius of our marketing combined with the stupidity of our people" and extremists know exactly how to market to gullible people

2) minor question...steven....are you still a subject of the queen or can you vote here?

[rbiller]

Seems like they forgot a couple of very important things. Saved the auto industry and saved the US from going into a depression. As Bill Clinton said at the convention, no president in history including himself could fix all the problems created by the previous administration in just 4 years.

[trish]

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
BRAVO!:claps:claps

[GroobySteven]

2) minor question...steven....are you still a subject of the queen or can you vote here?

No way. I don't want a vote in America. I like my UK citizenship.

[nysprod]

Well done, Seanchai

[RallyCola]

No way. I don't want a vote in America. I like my UK citizenship.


:fu: fucking immigrants.

they come here and take away all the porn producer jobs and fuck some of our tgirls.

[Willie Escalade]

It's on my Facebook page. Folks I wouldn't even dream would consider the other guy (these are veterans, poorer folks, and LGBT) will be interested in this.

[GroobySteven]

:fu: fucking immigrants.

they come here and take away all the porn producer jobs and fuck some of our tgirls.


Dreadful huh? :-)

You know the guy who owns Kink ... is British right?
You know the guy who owns Robert Hill ... is British right?

[danthepoetman]

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chaos]

No way. I don't want a vote in America. I like my UK citizenship.

Funny that you mention that....I have often wished I could leave....

[natina]

ROLLING STONES MAGIZINE

Mitt Romney's Real Agenda

If you want to understand Romney's game plan, just look at what Republicans have been doing in Congress


It was tempting to dismiss Mitt Romney's hard-right turn during the GOP primaries as calculated pandering. In the general election – as one of his top advisers famously suggested – Romney would simply shake the old Etch A Sketch and recast himself as the centrist who governed Massachusetts. But with the selection of vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan, the shape-shifting Romney has locked into focus – cementing himself as the frontman for the far-right partisans responsible for Washington's gridlock.

There is no longer any ambiguity about the path that Romney would pursue as president, because it's the same trajectory charted by Ryan, the architect of the House GOP's reactionary agenda since the party's takeover in 2010. "Picking Ryan as vice president outlines the future of the next four or eight years of a Romney administration," GOP power broker Grover Norquist exulted in August. "Ryan has outlined a plan that has support in the Republican House and Senate. You have a real sense of where Romney's going." In fact, Norquist told party activists back in February, the true direction of the GOP is being mapped out by congressional hardliners. All the Republicans need to realize their vision, he said, is a president "with enough working digits to handle a pen."

The GOP legislation awaiting Romney's signature isn't simply a return to the era of George W. Bush. From abortion rights and gun laws to tax giveaways and energy policy, it's far worse. Measures that have already sailed through the Republican House would roll back clean-air protections, gut both Medicare and Medicaid, lavish trillions in tax cuts on billionaires while raising taxes on the poor, and slash everything from college aid to veteran benefits. In fact, the tenets of Ryan Republicanism are so extreme that they even offend the pioneers of trickle-down economics. "Ryan takes out the ax and goes after programs for the poor – which is the last thing you ought to cut," says David Stockman, who served as Ronald Reagan's budget director. "It's ideology run amok."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/mitt-romneys-real-agenda-20120928

https://forums.craigslist.org/?ID=222047343

[natina]

Bill Clinton full DNC Speech 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzDhk3BHi6Q)



2 things...

1) i hate quoting bill maher, but "that's america....the genius of our marketing combined with the stupidity of our people" and extremists know exactly how to market to gullible people

2) minor question...steven....are you still a subject of the queen or can you vote here?

Bill Clinton speaks at the 2012 DNC (C-SPAN) - Full Speech - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5knEXDsrL4)

[natina]

Romney’s Slogan "Obama ‘Didn’t Clean Up Our Mess

Gibbs On Meet The Press Romney’s Slogan Is Obama ‘Didn’t Clean Up Our Mess Fast Enough’ (VIDEO) Addicting Info

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/04/30/gibbs-on-meet-the-press/


http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/robert-gibbs-romneys-slogan-obama-didn-t-cle

Obama campaign adviser Robert Gibbs on Sunday dismissed the Republican claim that women would vote for presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney because they were being hurt by President Barack Obama's economic policies.
"I think sometimes you listen to the Romney campaign and they do think a lot people in this country are stupid," Gibbs told NBC's David Gregory. "Their message is: You didn't clean up our mess fast enough."
"The last six months of the Bush administration, we lost three and half million jobs. We know this about Mitt Romney: He's not a job creator. When he was governor of Massachusetts, they were 47th out of 50 in job creation. His experience is in downsizing, outsourcing jobs and bankrupting companies and walking away with a lot of money for himself."
Gibbs added: "His economic ideas are the failed economic ideas that we tried for eight years, tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, and letting Wall Street going back to writing the rules all over again. That is the policies that got us into this mess."

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/robert-gibbs-romneys-slogan-obama-didn-t-cle

[natina]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z0WrEb6p6I

[natina]

GOP GIMICS; washing clean dishes:Paul Ryan stops

Paul Ryan stops at an Ohio homeless shelter to wash dishes specifically set aside
Democalypse 2012 - Please, For the Love of God, Make It Stop


Paul Ryan stops at an Ohio homeless shelter to wash dishes specifically set aside for campaign snapshots of him selflessly washing them.


http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-october-16-2012/democalypse-2012---please--for-the-love-of-god--make-it-stop

[lifeisfiction]

Republicans will vote for Republicans, Democracts will vote for Democrats and those whose votes will change from election to election will focus their votes on issues that matters to them. Interesting post, but for people in those "swing" states care about economic issues. Then again, it gives evidence to how little people really pay attention to what politicians do.

[RallyCola]

Republicans will vote for Republicans, Democracts will vote for Democrats and those whose votes will change from election to election will focus their votes on issues that matters to them. Interesting post, but for people in those "swing" states care about economic issues. Then again, it gives evidence to how little people really pay attention to what politicians do.


the idea that a "swing" state can even exist is the #1 problem with the electoral college. i really don't care about states individuality and whether or not states with smaller populations have an inferiority complex. if we are even 1/8 as democratic as we profess to be, we would elect our officials by the popular vote. that way, a few people in a few counties in 3 fucking states would not decide the election for the 100 million people expected to actually vote.

[natina]

http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/files/2012/10/mike102112.jpg

[mistab]

Shouldn't this topic be under Politics and Religion instead of General Discussion?

[broncofan]

Shouldn't this topic be under Politics and Religion instead of General Discussion?
Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and say that since the site owner put it here it stays here. ;):D

[Ben]

Republicans will vote for Republicans, Democracts will vote for Democrats and those whose votes will change from election to election will focus their votes on issues that matters to them. Interesting post, but for people in those "swing" states care about economic issues. Then again, it gives evidence to how little people really pay attention to what politicians do.

Yeah, I agree. People should vote for their own interests. So, if you think you're better served by Obama, well, vote for Obama. If you think your interests are better served by Romney, well, vote for him.
Problem is: there isn't much difference between the two parties. Profound differences. I, however, do think Republicans are more extreme. I view Obama as a moderate Republican circa 1992. (And, too, one has to think of the Supreme Court. Would, well, Romney choose an extremist or extremists for the Supreme Court? By that I mean one who is opposed to abortion etc., etc., etc.)
And, too, I don't believe anyone should offer up blind allegiance to any politician. Obama has been good on a lot of stuff. And not so good on other things. Notably not closing down Guantanamo, being quite bad when it comes to civil liberty issues, supporting a racist drug war, threatening Iran. Obama, with respect to Iran, has said all options are on the table. That's a threat. And, too, not fighting for the public option. Mainly because he kowtows -- and I'd add: has to -- to the pharmaceutical and insurance industries.
So, again, one shouldn't blindly support any politician. There are certain things I like(d) about Ron Paul. But a lot of things I didn't like about him. Same with Dennis Kucinich.
I mean, one should be, well, impartial. When Obama does good things, well, praise him. When he doesn't, well, criticize him.
And God forbid people like Obama cause he's: cool, handsome, has a great smile, is thin, is smart etc., etc.
Focus on policies. Not on personality.

[robertlouis]

It's a shame that there isn't a website, or indeed sharper media focus, on all the things that Obama would have done if it weren't for the endless filibustering and blocking by the Republicans in Congress.

Too many of the folks who complain about Obama's limited achievements forget that the GOP set out to prevent him passing anything at all regardless of its merits and potential benefits. Their single strategy from the moment he stepped into the Oval Office has been entirely negative and obstructionist, with total rejection of the slightest attempt at bipartisanship.

Yes, he's cautious and more centrist than some of his supporters hoped, but he would have delivered much more with a less hostile Congress.

[Bopper007]

Yes, there are many things on the list that Obama did. Many of them required spending more money. Money the US can not afford. It will be interesting to see what happens as the Financial Cliff approaches.

BTW, the last time I checked Gitmo is still open and operating.

[theoryman]

Yeah, I agree. People should vote for their own interests. So, if you think you're better served by Obama, well, vote for Obama. If you think your interests are better served by Romney, well, vote for him.
Problem is: there isn't much difference between the two parties. Profound differences. I, however, do think Republicans are more extreme. I view Obama as a moderate Republican circa 1992. (And, too, one has to think of the Supreme Court. Would, well, Romney choose an extremist or extremists for the Supreme Court? By that I mean one who is opposed to abortion etc., etc., etc.)
And, too, I don't believe anyone should offer up blind allegiance to any politician. Obama has been good on a lot of stuff. And not so good on other things. Notably not closing down Guantanamo, being quite bad when it comes to civil liberty issues, supporting a racist drug war, threatening Iran. Obama, with respect to Iran, has said all options are on the table. That's a threat. And, too, not fighting for the public option. Mainly because he kowtows -- and I'd add: has to -- to the pharmaceutical and insurance industries.
So, again, one shouldn't blindly support any politician. There are certain things I like(d) about Ron Paul. But a lot of things I didn't like about him. Same with Dennis Kucinich.
I mean, one should be, well, impartial. When Obama does good things, well, praise him. When he doesn't, well, criticize him.
And God forbid people like Obama cause he's: cool, handsome, has a great smile, is thin, is smart etc., etc.
Focus on policies. Not on personality.

A great post!

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[GroobySteven]

Yeah, I agree. People should vote for their own interests. So, if you think you're better served by Obama, well, vote for Obama. If you think your interests are better served by Romney, well, vote for him.
Problem is: there isn't much difference between the two parties. Profound differences. I, however, do think Republicans are more extreme. I view Obama as a moderate Republican circa 1992. (And, too, one has to think of the Supreme Court. Would, well, Romney choose an extremist or extremists for the Supreme Court? By that I mean one who is opposed to abortion etc., etc., etc.)
And, too, I don't believe anyone should offer up blind allegiance to any politician. Obama has been good on a lot of stuff. And not so good on other things. Notably not closing down Guantanamo, being quite bad when it comes to civil liberty issues, supporting a racist drug war, threatening Iran. Obama, with respect to Iran, has said all options are on the table. That's a threat. And, too, not fighting for the public option. Mainly because he kowtows -- and I'd add: has to -- to the pharmaceutical and insurance industries.
So, again, one shouldn't blindly support any politician. There are certain things I like(d) about Ron Paul. But a lot of things I didn't like about him. Same with Dennis Kucinich.
I mean, one should be, well, impartial. When Obama does good things, well, praise him. When he doesn't, well, criticize him.
And God forbid people like Obama cause he's: cool, handsome, has a great smile, is thin, is smart etc., etc.
Focus on policies. Not on personality.


Which is why in "Steven World" we'd have a whole new voting system. Candidates would state what they were for/against on a whole number of policies and what they were planning to do.
Voters would go into a booth and be asked a series of multiple choice questions on the same policies and how they ranked them in terms of importance. The algorithm would assign a score from that voter to each candidate. The winning score would win.

[bubbski]

...The algorithm would assign a score from that voter to each candidate. The winning score would win.

Nothing could ever possibly go wrong with THIS scheme:
Of course the Diebold Company would be the creator, keeper and the executor of this mysterious algorithm (deemed beneficial to the American sheeple by the corporate overlords).

Diebold/Koch Industries would manufacture and "maintain – wink-wink-nudge-nudge" the machines that capture the voters' "sentiment".

Leading to – surprise surprise – everyone entering the algorithm decoding booth (with optional glory hole) instantly branded conservative, and all the candidates to the right of Scalia & Romney stooge John Sununu emerging victorious.

It's an interesting idea, but gets us no closer to decoding the intentions of the Amurikan voter than the corrupt money-hungry easily-hackable system we have now.