What's up with all the bareback TS tops in porn?

[Westheangelino]

This is something that used to be incredibly rare in TS porn. So, I'm just curious as to how this came about? Some models (Kayden Harley and Kelly Clare come to mind) seem to always top bb in their scenes. Of course, these girls are relatively new as are most of the other girls I've noticed doing this. I welcome it all, of course, and wish I was one of the lucky guys in the shoot. However, just really curious as to why this is beginning to happen with more frequency now.

[christianxxx]

because TS girls are becoming more assimilated into straight porn where 95 percent of it is non condom with a 30 day health test. so if both performers have current tests then non condom scenes are possible.

i just bottomed for Venus Lux the other day non condom as a matter of fact.

[Jack59]

Actually that's changed a bit. Performers are now getting tested every 15 days.

[Westheangelino]

Thanks for the insight! I figured more rigorous testing was the answer.

While on the subject, what do you all you performers out there think of L.A. County Measure B on this election's ballot? It would require condom use on all porn shoots. What say you? If it passes will there just be a huge migration of production to SF, Vegas, OC, etc?

[Yeah]

They most likely will move production. I like the bb scenes better too.

[Westheangelino]

^I'm pretty sure nearly all viewers do. If it ain't raw, it ain't really sex. Am I right?

[Yeah]

Some scenes can be hot with condoms, but the raw vids definately sell

[TSPornFan]

The only sites that are doing this are TS Seduction and Euro TS sites. I don't recall Grooby doing this on a regular basis. I highly doubt SMC is doing it much either.

[amberskyi]

i refuse to do bareback i dont care how well tested the STRANGER is.that person could engage in all types of risky behavior in those 15 or 30 days between testes

[Westheangelino]

The only sites that are doing this are TS Seduction and Euro TS sites. I don't recall Grooby doing this on a regular basis. I highly doubt SMC is doing it much either.


Not so. Kayden Harley and Kelly Clare's scenes were not through TSS or a Euro site. It's proliferating everywhere. Like I said, I dig it.

[TSPornFan]

i refuse to do bareback i dont care how well tested the STRANGER is.that person could engage in all types of risky behavior in those 15 or 30 days between testes

I strongly support your decision.

Personally condoms do not bother me in a porno. I don't understand why so many men hate to see condoms in porn. They don't bother to think about another person's wellbeing.


Not so. Kayden Harley and Kelly Clare's scenes were not through TSS or a Euro site. It's proliferating everywhere. Like I said, I dig it.

What sites are featuring these scenes?

[pantybulge69]

Actually that's changed a bit. Performers are now getting tested every 15 days.

even with the Brazilian TS films ? that's interesting cuz i wouldn't think there's isn't any AIM affliation to closely monitor them.
and i thought i recalled a couple of Evil Empire/Joey Silvera bareback TS films.

[danthepoetman]

i refuse to do bareback i dont care how well tested the STRANGER is.that person could engage in all types of risky behavior in those 15 or 30 days between testes

I strongly support your decision.
Personally condoms do not bother me in a porno. I don't understand why so many men hate to see condoms in porn. They don't bother to think about another person's wellbeing.
This is wisdom.
:iagree:

[pantybulge69]

Some scenes can be hot with condoms, but the raw vids definately sell

and its' exactly that. RAW. that's what standing bareback scenes out.
i think we've gotten so used to condom-wear because we had to. Especially in TS scenes. i wouldn't watch condom-wear in regular GG films
but if i wanted to watch TS films, i would have no choice but to get use to condom use. but this wave of bareback scenes is a wonderful sight and brings me back memories of the Kim Christy bareback films.

[pantybulge69]

I strongly support your decision.

Personally condoms do not bother me in a porno. I don't understand why so many men hate to see condoms in porn. They don't bother to think about another person's wellbeing.



What sites are featuring these scenes?

because i've had to wear condoms while hooking up with several women, i know how subdued and limited-feel that they bring. Sure i need the protection they provide if i am going to have these many sexual partners but i don't enjoy the hot, slobbery blowjobs or super-warm,wet pussies nowhere near as much with condoms. Thus from experience, i wouldn't
get into seeing condom in pussy-fucking scenes. It's limited and it takes away.
and the porn industry film makers know it,. that's why you are not going to see condom-use in mainstream GG porn. it's a turn-off.

[amberskyi]

STIs and AIDS are a way bigger turn off

[christianxxx]

Actually that's changed a bit. Performers are now getting tested every 15 days.

actually you are fucking retarded. i am a performer genius, i know when i test. the only company that requires 15 day tests is manwin/brazzers - neither of whom shoots TS girls.

good lord chief, get a clue

[christianxxx]

STIs and AIDS are a way bigger turn off

I respect your right to always use condoms, but lets not act like AIDS is easy to contract. and STDS go away with pills after 4-5 days...whatever.

think about the statistics...

1. the odds of contracting HIV are something like 1 in 100,000 if you are RECEIVING an anal creampie (and way higher if you are GIVING) (according to CDC statistics)

2. add to that the fact that regular tested individuals every 30 days make that number even higher than untested people who have no idea about their health history.

3. you would have to work with the one male performer in the industry who
a. has somehow contracted HIV
b. has caught it in between the 30 day window of testing
c. has to creampie you or draw blood somehow during anal sex

so now what does anyone put those odds at? 1 in 2 million? higher? you have a better chance of winning the lottery to be honest. right?

is the threat of HIV a real one? of course it is. am i worried about getting it? nah not really. again, i would have to be the unluckiest guy in the world and I don't walk around thinking that incredibly unlucky things are going to happen to me. I am much more worried about getting a staph infection than HIV.

okay that's my rant for the evening. feel free to fire away at me. lol

[Westheangelino]

I strongly support your decision.

Personally condoms do not bother me in a porno. I don't understand why so many men hate to see condoms in porn. They don't bother to think about another person's wellbeing.



What sites are featuring these scenes?

Not sure, saw them on random tubes, but I do know they were not on either of the sites mentioned previously.

[ARMANIXXX]

I respect your right to always use condoms, but lets not act like AIDS is easy to contract. and STDS go away with pills after 4-5 days...whatever.

think about the statistics...

1. the odds of contracting HIV are something like 1 in 100,000 if you are RECEIVING an anal creampie (and way higher if you are GIVING) (according to CDC statistics)

2. add to that the fact that regular tested individuals every 30 days make that number even higher than untested people who have no idea about their health history.

3. you would have to work with the one male performer in the industry who
a. has somehow contracted HIV
b. has caught it in between the 30 day window of testing
c. has to creampie you or draw blood somehow during anal sex

so now what does anyone put those odds at? 1 in 2 million? higher? you have a better chance of winning the lottery to be honest. right?

is the threat of HIV a real one? of course it is. am i worried about getting it? nah not really. again, i would have to be the unluckiest guy in the world and I don't walk around thinking that incredibly unlucky things are going to happen to me. I am much more worried about getting a staph infection than HIV.

okay that's my rant for the evening. feel free to fire away at me. lol


#1 doesn't quite sound right at all.
I don't think anyone should believe for a second that getting a creampie is less riskier than giving.

Just sayin.

[GroobySteven]

^I'm pretty sure nearly all viewers do. If it ain't raw, it ain't really sex. Am I right?

No - you're wrong. It's protected sex.

Are you HIV+ already?

[GroobySteven]

1. the odds of contracting HIV are something like 1 in 100,000 if you are RECEIVING an anal creampie (and way higher if you are GIVING) (according to CDC statistics)

Show me that statistic please as I think you've mis-interpreted it wildly.



2. add to that the fact that regular tested individuals every 30 days make that number even higher than untested people who have no idea about their health history.

That gives up to 29 days to have unprotected sex with a potentially HIV+ partner in between tests. If we were all working with professional sex workers, that wouldn't be an issue (most escorts know the risks and take precautions) but we're not, we're working with people who have personal lives and multiple sex partners. Viral load is also had the highest when first contracted (making it easier to pass on).



3. you would have to work with the one male performer in the industry who
a. has somehow contracted HIV
b. has caught it in between the 30 day window of testing
c. has to creampie you or draw blood somehow during anal sex

Yes - and we know it's happened - that people in the industry have become HIV+ through other performers.




so now what does anyone put those odds at? 1 in 2 million? higher? you have a better chance of winning the lottery to be honest. right?
Seriously Christian? What bollocks are you listening to?



is the threat of HIV a real one? of course it is. am i worried about getting it? nah not really. again, i would have to be the unluckiest guy in the world and I don't walk around thinking that incredibly unlucky things are going to happen to me. I am much more worried about getting a staph infection than HIV.


I don't need to fire away at you. You're a smart lad and I don't believe you honestly believe those statistics. I think the recent legal issues in LA for unprotected sex on set is throwing a lot of numbers from both sides into the mix, most of which are rubbish.

As a company, I really don't care about the Measure B either way, which is why it's one of the fights I'm not getting into. We're doing condom only shoots right now but my general consensus is that if both performers want to do condomless scenes and both are tested, then that's between them and the producer. We'd never not film somone for wanting to wear a condom for penetrative sex.
I also think we have an obligation to show sex as safe and as unexploitative as we can.

[christianxxx]

1. receptive anal intercourse is 10 times more likely to contract HIV than insertive

2. now I have to search the CDC database....sheesh

3. in what world do professional sex workers "most escorts...take precautions" - you do realize that many escorts will do bareback with clients for more money right? I really hope you know that because that's a 100 percent fact. I hope no one on this board or in real life thinks otherwise either.

4. "people in the industry have become HIV+ through other performers" - Steven once again, you aren't reading what I am saying. Its a math problem -

You are correct Marc Wallice & Darren James did infect other performers - in 1999 & 2004 respectively. Marc gave 8 girls HIV with his forged test & Darren gave 6 girls HIV as he was positive in between tests. And those are only two times it has happened.

Think about that for a second. There are basically 250-300 shoots a day in the industry...every day...of every year. So if there are 2 or 16 positive cases (however you want to look at the math) what is the total number of shoots? 750,000? 1,000,000? 1,500,000

So then why aren't the odds of getting it on set in a scene at something like 16:1,000,000 ? I guess you are right Steven, its not 1 in 2 million, but its still low enough for me not to worry about it daily. And I work 25-30 times a month, every month.

Those numbers have absolutely nothing to do with the legal issues in LA, to be honest, I am single and don't have a mortgage, I almost HOPE the biz moves to Vegas. lol

[GroobySteven]

1. receptive anal intercourse is 10 times more likely to contract HIV than insertive

2. now I have to search the CDC database....sheesh

3. in what world do professional sex workers "most escorts...take precautions" - you do realize that many escorts will do bareback with clients for more money right? I really hope you know that because that's a 100 percent fact. I hope no one on this board or in real life thinks otherwise either.

4. "people in the industry have become HIV+ through other performers" - Steven once again, you aren't reading what I am saying. Its a math problem -

You are correct Marc Wallice & Darren James did infect other performers - in 1999 & 2004 respectively. Marc gave 8 girls HIV with his forged test & Darren gave 6 girls HIV as he was positive in between tests. And those are only two times it has happened.

Think about that for a second. There are basically 250-300 shoots a day in the industry...every day...of every year. So if there are 2 or 16 positive cases (however you want to look at the math) what is the total number of shoots? 750,000? 1,000,000? 1,500,000

So then why aren't the odds of getting it on set in a scene at something like 16:1,000,000 ? I guess you are right Steven, its not 1 in 2 million, but its still low enough for me not to worry about it daily. And I work 25-30 times a month, every month.

Those numbers have absolutely nothing to do with the legal issues in LA, to be honest, I am single and don't have a mortgage, I almost HOPE the biz moves to Vegas. lol

The odds of not getting on set are low - that's because most performers are educated and aware about it and because producers expect to see tests. You and I both know girls who have worked recently in this industry who are positive and they would have continued to work if a test for a shoot hadn't shown up as positive.

I couldn't do what you do. I know the stats are nowhere near 1 in 100,000 (according to that, if I got bummed by a different HIV+ individual everyday, it could take 280 yrs for me to catch it? What a load of crap!) and each of us has to take their own personal risk levels in their work and personal lives but the risk is too much for me.

[christianxxx]

oh I see what you mean. I don't assume the partner I work with are positive, so I guess that's why I assume the odds are lower. I assume that if you figure that my partner has tested negative within the past 30 days that lowers the risk as opposed to someone who has never been tested ever. right?

[GroobySteven]

oh I see what you mean. I don't assume the partner I work with are positive, so I guess that's why I assume the odds are lower. I assume that if you figure that my partner has tested negative within the past 30 days that lowers the risk as opposed to someone who has never been tested ever. right?

Yes it would lower the odds. As I stated, we all make a personal choice - I just couldn't trust someone to have no contacted it within 30 days.

[spko]

I had gone off TSSeduction until i noticed they started to do BB shoots, now i've re-subscribed again because is hot and different.

For me the pinnacle would be if the girl finishes in the guys ass, it's such a hot role reversal but I don't think there are many guys in TS porn that would take a creampie from a ts, maybe there is a social stigma attached to it or something?

Christian what are your thoughts?

[christianxxx]

anal creampies are illegal with all evil angel scenes because of the simple fact that it is the specific sex act that produces the highest risk of catching HIV (this is how both of the owners who are married of Evil Angel became HIV positive) - in a related fact - Tricia Devereaux, the wife, became infected with HIV from a scene with Marc Wallice in 1999 (from my earlier post).

I don't bottom very much, but I would do an anal creampie with a TS that I felt comfortable with her testing history. Venux Lux is the last one to do that to me.

But I can't speak for the other guys in TS porn.

[Jack59]

actually you are fucking retarded. i am a performer genius, i know when i test. the only company that requires 15 day tests is manwin/brazzers - neither of whom shoots TS girls.

good lord chief, get a clue

So is Kayden Kross, and she told me she's getting tested every 15 days. Given the choice of believing her or you, I'll believe her.

Link to her blog. You want the Oct 25th entry.

http://unkrossed.blogspot.com/

[Jack59]

Sorry, meant the Sept. 25th.

[LibertyHarkness]

whats up with the bareback threads over the last few months anyway...

i mean shit its just porn .. there is tons of bareback in straight,gay/tranny porn , who cares just sit back and whack off :)

[christianxxx]

So is Kayden Kross, and she told me she's getting tested every 15 days. Given the choice of believing her or you, I'll believe her.

Link to her blog. You want the Oct 25th entry.

http://unkrossed.blogspot.com/

again genius, Kayden Kross - contract girl for Digital Playground - which is owned by MANWIN - try again

[LibertyHarkness]

christian i want to have sex with you again :) when i am over for AVN stuff in Jan and Tranny Awards :) in Feb :) hoping to be sporting my new Boobies for Tranny Awards :)

You going to come back to UK next year ?

[Dino Velvet]

^I'm pretty sure nearly all viewers do. If it ain't raw, it ain't really sex. Am I right?

An ex tried to tell me that when I accused her of cheating.

[tvkim]

Actually that's changed a bit. Performers are now getting tested every 15 days.

But whats the point if a performer passes the test then has sex with an infected partner the day after? Isn't it just wise to do safe sex only?

[youngblood61]

Safe is the way to go.:)

[christianxxx]

But whats the point if a performer passes the test then has sex with an infected partner the day after? Isn't it just wise to do safe sex only?

you are leaving out some details that are pertinent to the question.

your partner is also tested every 30 days just like you, so the window that a person has to get infected and then pass it on to you is much smaller than someone with no known health history.

is the scenario you described possible? of course it is, but the probability of that is much much much lower than if you have unsafe sex with 2 random people with no health tests.

again, there are 1000 people testing each month in the business, every month of every year. only 1 person has tested HIV positive since 2004. so again, what are the odds that you are that 1 person every 8 years? and do you walk around assuming the worst possible thing can happen to you every day? i don't

[ARMANIXXX]

The only thing I never quite understood, and I'm still trying to get a good solid answer on,

is why in mainstream regular GG based porn, the actors rarely use condoms.....but in TS based porn the actors almost always use them?

Is there anyone that can answer this?

[hippifried]

you are leaving out some details that are pertinent to the question.

your partner is also tested every 30 days just like you, so the window that a person has to get infected and then pass it on to you is much smaller than someone with no known health history.

is the scenario you described possible? of course it is, but the probability of that is much much much lower than if you have unsafe sex with 2 random people with no health tests.

again, there are 1000 people testing each month in the business, every month of every year. only 1 person has tested HIV positive since 2004. so again, what are the odds that you are that 1 person every 8 years? and do you walk around assuming the worst possible thing can happen to you every day? i don't
Butt the sky is falling! You didn't get the memo?

One question though, about the industry:
Aside from fear, how much do a performer's personal pleasure preferences affect the decision to go raw?

[amberskyi]

you are leaving out some details that are pertinent to the question.

your partner is also tested every 30 days just like you, so the window that a person has to get infected and then pass it on to you is much smaller than someone with no known health history.

is the scenario you described possible? of course it is, but the probability of that is much much much lower than if you have unsafe sex with 2 random people with no health tests.

again, there are 1000 people testing each month in the business, every month of every year. only 1 person has tested HIV positive since 2004. so again, what are the odds that you are that 1 person every 8 years? and do you walk around assuming the worst possible thing can happen to you every day? i don't

whooaaaa didnt seanchi just point out that you both know girls who recently tested positive and would of kept working if it was for their test being made public?? so im guessing its been more that just one person since 2004 lol.maybe you should stop trying to pass on these "stats" if its already been debunked in the very same threaad

[Westheangelino]

Christian is basically right about the raw numbers (no pun intended). Regular testing is not a cure all for HIV, but it is quite true that two people who are routinely tested are far less likely to contract HIV. Most contractions do NOT come from a one night stand (which is essentially what a porn shoot is). Most people contract HIV from one partner whom is unknown to be positive and whom they have sex with many times or by having risky sex with many many partners. However, on other people's side, I would like to point out that the two performers Christian mentions as the only cases are the only PUBLICIZED cases. Now, I don't think there is a huge number of people contracting HIV on porn shoots and keeping it secret, but I'm sure there are performers who contract HIV and then simply don't work again. BUT this also backs Christian up...most of this is self correcting. You contract HIV, you don't work anymore, thus reinforcing the homogeneity of the pool.

[christianxxx]

whooaaaa didnt seanchi just point out that you both know girls who recently tested positive and would of kept working if it was for their test being made public?? so im guessing its been more that just one person since 2004 lol.maybe you should stop trying to pass on these "stats" if its already been debunked in the very same threaad

you are kidding right? please tell me you are kidding. "debunked"?

first of all, what you said makes zero sense. the point is that the tests ARE public, that's the whole point of testing. because you HAVE to show your current test that is less than 30 days to your scene partner. what anyone WOULD have done is irrelevant.

you can guess all you want, but you would be completely wrong. Since Darren James in 2004, the only person to test positive for HIV is a guy named Derrick Burts in 2010 and he contracted HIV off camera during a gay private.

So one more time, only ONE person has tested positive for HIV on a health test in the adult industry since 2004. THAT IS A 100 PERCENT FACT.

Amber, I have the utmost respect and admiration for seanchi and his brilliance and vision regarding the popularization of the TS porn genre and his skill in making Grooby wildly profitable. But his knowledge of the straight porn world is not as informed as mine. That's just a fact. If I say something, I am not lying to you - because it affects me directly (I perform 15-25 times a month in straight porn every month and 1-10 times a month in TS porn every month....since 2004).

[Westheangelino]

Oh.........and all this being said, I am not in the porn industry, but I would totally volunteer to get creampied.

My ultimate fantasy would be a gangbang (which is rarely seen outside of Brazilian ts porn) With Danni Daniels, Kayden Harley, Mia Isabella, and Chyna all barebacking me creaming it up!!! Now that would be a hot video, I assure you.

[amberskyi]

you are kidding right? please tell me you are kidding. "debunked"?

first of all, what you said makes zero sense. the point is that the tests ARE public, that's the whole point of testing. because you HAVE to show your current test that is less than 30 days to your scene partner. what anyone WOULD have done is irrelevant.

you can guess all you want, but you would be completely wrong. Since Darren James in 2004, the only person to test positive for HIV is a guy named Derrick Burts in 2010 and he contracted HIV off camera during a gay private.

So one more time, only ONE person has tested positive for HIV on a health test in the adult industry since 2004. THAT IS A 100 PERCENT FACT.

Amber, I have the utmost respect and admiration for seanchi and his brilliance and vision regarding the popularization of the TS porn genre and his skill in making Grooby wildly profitable. But his knowledge of the straight porn world is not as informed as mine. That's just a fact. If I say something, I am not lying to you - because it affects me directly (I perform 15-25 times a month in straight porn every month and 1-10 times a month in TS porn every month....since 2004).


so your saying he lied? he totally made up the fact that you both know girls who recently tested positive?

[amberskyi]

Oh.........and all this being said, I am not in the porn industry, but I would totally volunteer to get creampied.

My ultimate fantasy would be a gangbang (which is rarely seen outside of Brazilian ts porn) With Danni Daniels, Kayden Harley, Mia Isabella, and Chyna all barebacking me creaming it up!!! Now that would be a hot video, I assure you.

no comment

[ARMANIXXX]

no comment

Everybody's got their fantasy thing....

Don't knock him.

[amberskyi]

Everybody's got their fantasy thing....

Don't knock him.

i did say no comment didnt i lol

[GroobySteven]

So one more time, only ONE person has tested positive for HIV on a health test in the adult industry since 2004. THAT IS A 100 PERCENT FACT.

Amber, I have the utmost respect and admiration for seanchi and his brilliance and vision regarding the popularization of the TS porn genre and his skill in making Grooby wildly profitable. But his knowledge of the straight porn world is not as informed as mine. That's just a fact. If I say something, I am not lying to you - because it affects me directly (I perform 15-25 times a month in straight porn every month and 1-10 times a month in TS porn every month....since 2004).

Very little knowledge of the straight porn world. I wasn't aware that's what we were talking about.
We know more than one TS performer whose tested positive right?

[christianxxx]

tested positive on their HIV test through AIM or CET or TTS? since 2004? The answer is either 0 or 1 (that is disputed)

[amberskyi]

tested positive on their HIV test through AIM or CET or TTS? since 2004? The answer is either 0 or 1 (that is disputed)

why does it matter who theyre tested through.if their an adult performer thats all that should count

[christianxxx]

once again, I can't speak to which TS girl or girls become positive outside of the adult industry in the world. I am sure the number is high. But I do know this, if they want to do porno, they have to test through our clinic and their results are made public to the scene partner. Which is the ENTIRE point of testing in the first place.

There isn't a single performer that would do a bareback scene with anyone who doesn't have a current health test. period, end of story.

[christianxxx]

why does it matter who theyre tested through.if their an adult performer thats all that should count

it matters because with 1 standardized test from the same place, then the risk of forging or faking documents becomes harder. You can't just walk into any clinic anywhere and get a printout of a test.

our clinics are there specifically with the health of adult performers in mind. everyone goes there, everyone gets the same treatment, and everyone gets the exact same test and type of test every month.

[christianxxx]

oh I see what you mean Amber, it matters because unless your test is from CET or TTS then its not accepted on adult industry sets. You HAVE to test at 1 of those 2 places for you to work in the industry. You can't just go to your personal doctor and get your own test.

[amberskyi]

and how many ts sites use those companies

[christianxxx]

that shoot bareback scenes in the US? all of them. 100 percent

[amberskyi]

that shoot bareback scenes in the US? all of them. 100 percent

thats weird because ive never been required to test through any of those companies.i went to a private clinic

[christianxxx]

That's weird, I didn't know u did a bareback scene - can u show me where that scene is?

[WendyWilliams]

I have done and accepted paperwork from an outside clinic if within 14 days and with a CONDOM ONLY... stress CONDOM ONLY.

However if bareback (which I dont do anymore) then it must be from Talent Testing, or one of those sharing sites. (Industry Standards)

I can't imagine any TS company doing bareback would accept anything but one of the approved companies. Legally it would open up the Producer and Company to a bunch of unnecessary headache.

[amberskyi]

That's weird, I didn't know u did a bareback scene - can u show me where that scene is?

oh goodness i havent and never would

[christianxxx]

you just said you tested through an outside clinic for a bareback scene!

you just said it right above where I said that "only tests from TTS or CET were accepted by all companies for bareback scenes"


Originally Posted by christianxxx -
that shoot bareback scenes in the US? all of them. 100 percent

posted by Amberskyi -
thats weird because ive never been required to test through any of those companies.i went to a private clinic

now you are changing your answer? how strange

[christianxxx]

I have done and accepted paperwork from an outside clinic if within 14 days and with a CONDOM ONLY... stress CONDOM ONLY.

However if bareback (which I dont do anymore) then it must be from Talent Testing, or one of those sharing sites. (Industry Standards)

I can't imagine any TS company doing bareback would accept anything but one of the approved companies. Legally it would open up the Producer and Company to a bunch of unnecessary headache.

thus proving and helping to validate my point. thanks Wendy!

[amberskyi]

you just said you tested through an outside clinic for a bareback scene!

you just said it right above where I said that "only tests from TTS or CET were accepted by all companies for bareback scenes"


Originally Posted by christianxxx -
that shoot bareback scenes in the US? all of them. 100 percent

posted by Amberskyi -
thats weird because ive never been required to test through any of those companies.i went to a private clinic

now you are changing your answer? how strange

i was talking about the hardcore scenes ive done.ive been pretty adamant through out the entire thread about my refusal to do anything bareback

[danthepoetman]

In the end, what you’re saying, Christian, is that doing bareback is a very well calculated risk. And I find you’re making very good points and are very convincing. Moreover, I find that you’re answering the thread question accurately. Amber, Kim and others are saying that nothing is worth taking risk with such a serious health issue as AIDS. I think it can also be viewed as a very good point. Seanchai’s point, if I understand correctly, is that anyways, as a producer, he has to think in terms of protecting the industry by making sure it keeps a good reputation when it comes to the safety of the performers, which is also a good, crystal clear point.
As a porn consumer, I can only repeat with Franklyn that I don’t even see the condoms. I don’t care if there’s one or not. What’s important is that the performers convince me they’re enjoying what they do, which is something you, as the great adult performer you are, does every time out.

You’ll all think I’m a weirdo to come up with such an example but, you know, I’m a great boxing fan. I’ve been a boxing fan for just about 50 years now. Love the sport! The only time I truly gets to hate it, is when a fighter die in the ring. There has been times I couldn’t watch boxing for months, after a death. I would feel exactly the same way if I knew an adult performer, for my joy and pleasure (and that of all consumers like me), had contracted a life threatening disease while performing. I would feel really bad. Really bad. So as far as I’m concerned once again, I don’t mind adult performers wearing condoms. Not one bit, on the contrary.

This is a very informative thread, fed by people who are insiders. Thank you!

[christianxxx]

you effectively shrunk this entire thread into like 5 sentences. nice work.

[buckjohnson]

I agree. I would never have BB sex in private life, and if I was an professional I def would not.


i refuse to do bareback i dont care how well tested the STRANGER is.that person could engage in all types of risky behavior in those 15 or 30 days between testes

[ARMANIXXX]

I agree. I would never have BB sex in private life, and if I was an professional I def would not.


So,
You've never had BB sex with a genetic girl?