testosterone to blame for men’s shortened lives

[natina]

Historical study of castrated men offers evidence that testosterone to blame for men’s shortened lives


Scientists said Monday they have new evidence about why women live longer than men, from a study of historical data showing castrated Koreans far outlived their non-eunuch contemporaries.
The study, published in the scientific journal “Current Biology,” used detailed genealogical records of the Imperial nobility during Korea’s Joseon dynasty, which spanned more than 500 years from the late 1300s to the early 1900s.
According to the data, most men, including kings and royal family members, died in their late-40s or early-50s.
But noble-class eunuchs — men who were castrated either by accident or because of social benefits — lived, on average, to the ripe, old age of 70.
Study author Kyung-Jin Min of South Korea’s Inha University, told AFP the reason is probably that manly hormone, testosterone:
“Testosterone is known to increase the incidence of coronary heart disease and reduce immune function in males,” he said.
Castration “removes the source of male sex hormones,” the study notes, adding the practice has already been proven to help many male animals live longer.
Castration also cuts off the possibility of reproduction, which Kyung-Jin noted could also be a factor.
According to “one of the leading theories of aging, aging occurs at the expense of reproduction,” he said, because the body has limited energy that can be used either to keep up reproductive function, or else to keep up everything else.



But although the eunuchs could not father children biologically, they married, adopted and raised children, and generally lived lives very similar to their non-castrated peers.
“In order to eliminate socioeconomic factors that could have affected lifespan, the lifespan of the eunuchs was compared to the lifespan of men from other Yan-ban (noble class) families with a similar socioeconomic status,” Kyung-Jin said.
And “to exclude genetic factors that could have affected the lifespan, we compared the lifespan of eunuchs with multiple Yan-ban families.”
Modern men looking to extend their lifespan could consider “testosterone reduction therapy,” but Kyung-Jin said it’s probably premature.
For one thing, it is not clear if it would have an effect if the therapy were started at an older age — the eunuchs were all castrated as children.
And for another, the therapy could have side effects that some men may feel make that longer life less worth living.
“We may need to consider the side effects of it,” Kyung-Jin said, “mainly, reduction of sex drive in males.”


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/24/historical-study-of-castrated-men-offers-evidence-testosterone-to-blame-for-mens-shortened-lives/

[flabbybody]

I think I'll keep my boys and die a few years younger

[GrimFusion]

Yeah, not worth it. I'm already gambling against fate by smoking as much as I do.
The way my life has played out so far, the earlier I go the better.

[robertlouis]

I think I'll keep my boys and die a few years younger

Yep. Who wants to be a 95 year old tenor?

[natina]

Castration Can Increase Lifespan, According To Study Of Eunuchs
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/09/24/cutting-off-penis-castration-lifespan-increase-eunuch_n_1909992.html

[JenniferParisHusband]

Yep. Who wants to be a 95 year old tenor?

Tenor? That's some wishful thinking. No one writes music for Castrato's anymore.

[danthepoetman]

I’ve seen other studies saying pretty much the same thing, Natina.
Testosterone is a tough hormone. You loose your hair, it starts coming out profusely almost from anywhere else on and out of you, your nose, your ears, etc., your back curves toward the front and your belly starts swelling like the universe in expansion, your shoulders fall, your muscular mass, tendons and joints start hurting and when young tiny birdy girls see you they murmur amongst themselves in high pitch voices “gross!”… Well, ok, I exaggerate a little, but all in all, it’s not a too too pretty picture.

On a serious note, numbers indicates that the average life span of women, which used to be a lot longer than that of men (by 10 years or more), is decreasing a little since more women are working. But there’s a lot to bet men and women never will have the same, not as long as men are men, I suppose… Seeing these drawings, a few scary thoughts cross your mind, though. Testosterone is tough on you, but in principle, it puts limits on coquetry and therefore drives you to the end of its effects. It’s a bit of a circle: you wouldn’t want to loose the balls because they make you what you are and vice versa. Any desire to step out of it translate something very special or different.

(Am I making any sense? Am-I-ma-king-a-ny-sen-se???)

[sissichef38]

I've always wanted to be castrated, but still not sure of 2 things. 1) is too late at age 40? 2) which is better, the burdizzo or the elastrator? Obviously surgery (my preferred route) is safer, but to have a surgen do it to a male who wants it is extremely difficult.

[danthepoetman]

Sissichef, your nuts… :)

Seriously, man, if it’s by sex drive, just remember that after, you won’t have the same drive one bit and you’ll probably sorely regret it. Besides, burdizzo and elastrator are designed for farm animals, no? Man, this is dangerous! Don’t risk your health for a fantasy. This is one of these cases where you should stop and reason with your desire. You’re not a transsexual, are you? Why in hell would you want to do something like that?

[Prospero]

You'll end up looking like this happy man... an aged Eunuch from the final days of the Chinese Imperial era....

[danthepoetman]

I’d say this is one of the most dissuasive picture I’ve ever seen… :)

[natina]

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[natina]

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Michigan murder trial reveals sex torture chamber at house


DETROIT (Reuters) – A Michigan murder trial over the killing of a man who was castrated has revealed an apparent torture chamber in the basement of a suburban Detroit house where men were castrated for sexual purposes.
Robert Martin Nowak, 51, is charged with murder and criminal sexual conduct in the killing of 26-year-old Troy Moross, whose body was found near a machine shop where Nowak was working and living part-time in 2001, the Oakland County prosecutors office spokesman said.
He had been castrated.


Nowak’s attorney Larry Kaluzny said he will present evidence at the trial on Monday that federal authorities were investigating a group of men involved in a castration cult operating out of a house in Rochester Hills.

He will try to prove that the ring of men, whom investigators say also operated a torture chamber in the basement of the Rochester Hills house, may have been involved in Moross’ killing, and not his client.
Kaluzny said he cannot deny that physical evidence shows that Nowak had sex with Moross, but he will try to convince the jury that someone else, perhaps one of the men in the house in Rochester Hills, could have killed him.
DNA found under Moross’ fingernails, Kaluzny said, indicate he struggled for his life and scratched his attacker. That DNA does not match Nowak, the defense attorney said.
The federal investigation found photos of the bizarre acts in the home. When police searched the Rochester Hills house, they also found a “cage and sex toys.”
“There were photos of a guy coming from out of state to do the castrations on various people.” Kaluzny said.



The prosecution on Friday offered evidence that it said shows that Nowak had sex with Moross after he was killed.

Nowak's attorney Larry Kaluzny said he will present evidence at the trial on Monday that federal authorities were investigating a group of men involved in a castration cult operating out of a house in Rochester Hills.
He will try to prove that the ring of men, whom investigators say also operated a torture chamber in the basement of the Rochester Hills house, may have been involved in Moross' killing, and not his client.
Kaluzny said he cannot deny that physical evidence shows that Nowak had sex with Moross, but he will try to convince the jury that someone else, perhaps one of the men in the house in Rochester Hills, could have killed him.
DNA found under Moross' fingernails, Kaluzny said, indicate he struggled for his life and scratched his attacker. That DNA does not match Nowak, the defense attorney said.
The federal investigation found photos of the bizarre acts in the home. When police searched the Rochester Hills house, they also found a "cage and sex toys."
"There were photos of a guy coming from out of state to do the castrations on various people." Kaluzny said.
The prosecution on Friday offered evidence that it said shows that Nowak had sex with Moross after he was killed.

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[natina]

Castration helps men live longer, says Korean expert Kyung-Jin Min


Read more on Inha University (http://www.whatsontianjin.com/tag-Inha%20University.html) Current Biology (http://www.whatsontianjin.com/tag-Current%20Biology.html) castration helps man live longer (http://www.whatsontianjin.com/tag-castration%20helps%20man%20live%20longer.html)

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A Turkish chief eunuch from the 18th Century. Researchers now believe that eunuchs may live longer

Scientists have found a sure-fire way for men to live longer - but most red-blooded males will find the method unpalatably painful.

Researchers in Korea have shown that eunuchs - castrated men living centuries ago - outlived other men by a significant margin.

They say their findings suggest that male sex hormones are responsible for shortening the lives of men.

The evidence comes after careful study of genealogy records of noble members of the Imperial court of the Korean Chosun dynasty (AD 1392-1910).

Kyung-Jin Min, of Inha University, said: 'This discovery adds an important clue for understanding why there is a difference in the expected life span between men and women.'

The castrated boys in Korea lost their reproductive organs in accidents - usually after being bitten by dogs - or underwent castration purposefully to gain early access to the palace.

Eunuchs were allowed to marry and had families by adopting castrated boys or normal girls.

People in those days kept careful genealogy records as proof that they were of the noble class.

By poring over those records, Min and his colleague Cheol-Koo Lee, of Korea University, found that eunuchs lived 14 to 19 years longer than other men did.

Amongst the 81 eunuchs they studied, three lived to the ripe old age of 100 or more, a feat of longevity that remains relatively rare even in developed countries today.

They noted the incidence of centenarians among Korean eunuchs is at least 130 times greater than it is in the developed countries, and that can’t be explained simply by the benefits of life in the palace, either.

They said most eunuchs spent as much time outside the palace as they did inside it.

And, in fact, kings and male members of the royal family had the shortest lives of all, typically surviving only to their mid-forties.

The research team, whose findings were published in the journal Current Biology, said their findings may offer some clues to life extension


http://www.whatsontianjin.com/news-4670-castration-helps-men-live-longer-says-korean-expert-kyung-jin-min.html

[natina]

Castrated Men Live Nearly 20 Years Longer Than Other Men - Study


Call it making the best of a potentially bad situation. Eunuchs - castrated men - live nearly 20 years longer than other men, a new study has found.

The study of over 80 eunuchs from the Chosun Dynasty, which ruled in Korea from 1392 to 1897, looked at the world's only known record of eunuchs' lives and compared them to genealogical records of other men of similar social rank. The researchers cross-checked their results with other royal records.

They found that the average lifespan of a Korean eunuch was about 70 years, 14 to 19 years higher than non-castrated men of similar social standing.

Three of the 81 eunuchs lived to be over 100 years old. The researchers calculated that the rate of centenarians among this group of eunuchs was at least 130 times higher than the current rate in developed countries.

"Our study supports the idea that male sex hormones decrease the lifespan of men," wrote Kyung-Jin Min, associate professor in the Department of Biological Sciences at Inha University in Inchon, South Korea, and lead author of the study published today in the journal Current Biology.

This study does not prove that castration directly increases human longevity, said S. Jay Olshansky, a professor of public health at the University of Illinois in Chicago, who studies longevity but was not involved with the study. "It may not have anything to do with being eunuchs," he said, adding that this study did not adjust for lifestyle factors like diet, exercise, and stress.

revious studies have shown that castration - which removes the source of male sex hormones - increases lifespan in animals. But studies in humans haven't been conclusive.
One past study found that castrati singers did not live significantly longer than non-castrated singers. Another study has shown that castration increased longevity by 14 years in mentally disabled, institutionalized men. That increase in lifespan is similar to the findings in the Korean eunuch study.

Women reach the age of 110 ten times more often than men, said Dr. L. Stephen Coles, a co-founder of the Los Angeles Gerontology Research Group, who was not involved with the study. In a research group of 67 confirmed centenarians, he said, only three are men. There may be several reasons for a sex difference in lifespan, experts said.

Females may have an advantage in longevity because they have a back-up X chromosome, Coles said. A women's body is a mixture of cells, half containing an active X chromosome from her mother and the other half from her father, he said. If there is a defect on one X chromosome, half of her cells will be unaffected.

Male sex hormones may have a negative effect on the immune system, wrote study author Min in the paper. "Male sex hormones also predispose men to adverse cardiovascular attacks."

While research seems to link male sex hormones to shorter life spans, experts remind us that quality of life matters more than quantity.

"I would not recommend becoming a eunuch," Coles said, "Or taking drugs to reduce your sex hormones." Reducing testosterone levels in men or women would severely affect one's sex drive, he said.

The findings that the absence of male sex hormones may improve longevity runs counter to a growing trend in the anti-aging industry, Olshansky said.

Some companies claim a healthier longer life can be enhanced by the introduction of growth or sex hormones at levels that existed when you were younger, he said.

"There's no evidence that introducing hormones at levels that existed when you were younger make you live longer," Olshansky said, "This study suggests that you're better off without them."

Testosterone therapy may be recommended for certain men who lack testosterone, Coles said. A source at the National Institutes of Health said a clinical trial is currently underway to see if testosterone is safe and beneficial for elderly men with low testosterone levels.

What advice do experts have for people who want to live to a ripe old age -- and might not be in the frame of mind to consider castration? Avoid smoking, Coles said, because we know that nicotine is highly addictive and that tobacco smoke causes cancer.

A healthy diet and exercise are also important for longevity, Olshansky said. While there is no universal prescription for exercise, he recommended, "Avoid being horizontal, be vertical, and keep moving!" But what also really helps when it comes to living longer, he said, is to "choose long-lived parents."

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[robertlouis]

Tenor? That's some wishful thinking. No one writes music for Castrato's anymore.

You don't remember The Communards?

[natina]

Burdizzo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burdizzo)



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It should be noted that while the Burdizzo was not designed for human use, articles have recently been published in urology journals noting that on humans, the Burdizzo appears to be both safer and simpler than surgical methods of castration!

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Those who have successfully utilized this method report that the pain is agonizing for the first twelve hours, but after that, the feeling dulls until the testicles are entirely dead. At this point, the entire scrotum and testes can be cut off below the band without any pain or bleeding. The band is left on until the area is healed enough to hold together on its own. This method of castration is commonly done on farms and is also the method favored by home (DIY (http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php?title=DIY)) and BDSM (http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php?title=BDSM) practitioners, due to its relative simplicity and safety. An added benefit to this method is that it also removes the scrotum during the process of destroying the testicles. If the scrotum is left on, sepsis (http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php?title=Sepsis) (blood poisoning) and infection (http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php?title=Infection) are very real risks if dry gangrene (http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php?title=Dry_Gangrene) doesn't set in like it should. On the other hand, if the band is removed too soon after removing the scrotum, major and uncontrollable bleeding (http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php?title=Bleeding) is risked.


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[Prospero]

The dark haired fellow in the picture posted by Robert louis is now a church of England vicar and radio presenter.... the reverend richard coles.

[GrimFusion]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/grimfusion/natina2.jpg

lol.
I just don't stop chuckling.

[robertlouis]

I suspect that this thread will eventually turn into a pile of old bollocks.....

[Prospero]

Grimfusion clearly wants this thread to be cut off in it's prime

[robertlouis]

Grimfusion clearly wants this thread to be cut off in it's prime

You may (or may not) have a point there....:hide-1:

[Prospero]

Probably enough cutting remarks.... Eunuch f you want to, this guy is not for turning

[robertlouis]

Probably enough cutting remarks.... Eunuch f you want to, this guy is not for turning

True, it's all about the roll of the dice.....

[GrimFusion]

I'm just not that chill with pictures of castration clamps.
*shivers*

I'll deal, though.
Is the picture starting to get annoying?
I'm not prime on annoying everybody.

[robertlouis]

I think I'll pass on meatballs with my spaghetti too.

[GrimFusion]

My mouth tastes like nickles all of a sudden.
I think I feel sick. My stomach smells funny.
I'm gunna go lay down.

[danthepoetman]

Tchaikovsky - The Nutcracker - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Au8EDsQfI)

[natina]

hey I never said FAMILY JEWEL THERAPY

http://www.stockroom.com/CBT-C670.aspx

[Dino Velvet]

I've shot my share of 'roids and smoked tons of weed. Nothing wrong with me.

[natina]

HEY! you will live 4-20 YEARS LONGER with no testis

[Jericho]

Hmmm...Still not tempted!

[robertlouis]

HEY! you will live 4-20 YEARS LONGER with no testis

Doesn't seem to work for cats....

[danthepoetman]

For some reason, this will sound like a line from a very bad movie: I’d rather live 54 years like a man, than a 100 as less than one!
Hrrmmm!...

[robertlouis]

For some reason, this will sound like a line from a very bad movie: I’d rather live 54 years like a man, than a 100 as less than one!
Hrrmmm!...

Yes, and what will you do if you're left standing in a queue for something for ages? They didn't think about that now, did they?

Pocket billiards just wouldn't be the same if all you had was the cue.....

[danthepoetman]

Yes, and what will you do if you're left standing in a queue for something for ages? They didn't think about that now, did they?

Pocket billiards just wouldn't be the same if all you had was the cue.....
LOL
"Well thank God we didn't give in to the Soviets", a real man would say…

Yes indeed, this precise game requires the queue, the balls and the holes! (Ooo! that sounded a little bad… ;))

[fred41]

Doesn't seem to work for cats....

:)....excellent point!


Also -

before castration, a cat's favorite past time consists of fucking as many pussies (I know-*groan*) as possible.

after castration, a cat's favorite past time is chasing a flashlight beam reflected against a wall.

[youngblood61]

HEY! you will live 4-20 YEARS LONGER with no testisI'll keep my balls thank you.:)

[natina]

DON'T be a PUSSY!

get 20 more years out of your body,live 20 more years


Doesn't seem to work for cats....

[robertlouis]

DON'T be a PUSSY!

get 20 more years out of your body,live 20 more years

I like that - don't be a pussy, just cut your balls off lol.

[natina]

Gillette - Don't Wanna Short Dick Man (uncensored) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1w8OQEcplY)


I like that - don't be a pussy, just cut your balls off lol.

[Deimos]

without reading anything in this thread... all can say to the title of the thread is.... no shit. of course testosterone is to blame for men's shortened lives... it's testosterone after all, that makes men grab a bunch of rocket launchers and go trigger happy. as george carlin pointed out... the rockets and bombs and bullets, are all shaped like dicks.

[danthepoetman]

without reading anything in this thread... all can say to the title of the thread is.... no shit. of course testosterone is to blame for men's shortened lives... it's testosterone after all, that makes men grab a bunch of rocket launchers and go trigger happy. as george carlin pointed out... the rockets and bombs and bullets, are all shaped like dicks.
Lol!
Yep... etc.

[natina]

CASTRATED MALES LIVE LONGER?!?! (Response to Crazy Scientist Misandry) #417 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NBqepUXUuc)

[natina]

Vasectomy-no scalpel performed at Urology Centers of Alabama
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LOL LOL ---Testicle removal for only $100!
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My Vasectomy Consultation and Demonstration
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[Dino Velvet]

Vasectomy-no scalpel performed at Urology Centers of Alabama
Vasectomy-no scalpel performed at Urology Centers of Alabama - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwjL2F-kG7s)


LOL LOL ---Testicle removal for only $100!
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Loved the testicle removal clip. Thumbs up from me.:cheers:

[natina]

Vasectomy Reversal with Epididymovasostomy
from
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Dr. Aaron Spitz Performs a Live No Needle Vasectomy. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp36jLMnRZA)

[Avers]

Bilogically, the nature does not do to healthy human being any thing that can be considered as excess of its nature. So, only the human stupidity can find, justify and remove this excess.

[ImmerGeil]

Yeah, not worth it. I'm already gambling against fate by smoking as much as I do.
The way my life has played out so far, the earlier I go the better.

best of both worlds:pumped::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVpsmoAe9pM

After a hard training session it is even better and relaxing to smoke than to do without it.If someone is a heavy pothead and smokes everyday the effects aren't that great or he must smoke everyday another species which is for must guys that doesn't live in Amsterdam probably not possible.

[Merkurie]

Fried Chicken, glass of wine and a joint.
Gotta love Arnold.

[ImmerGeil]

I don't care if Testosterone shortened my life.

Life isn't about quantity it's about quality.I am a man who likes to be maculine so I can't imagine and i don't want to loose all my power and vitality when getting old by a lack of testosterone.

Between the age of 50 until 60 the decrease of muscle mass is annual about1,5%.After that it's about 3%!

I support this whole anti-aging thing so I think when i will loosing significant muscle mass i will start a small testosterone cycle until to my death.

Then I will colour my hair and will have a lots of fun win with viagra,cialis...

I would like to die as an old fart just after i've finished shooting my load into a hot teen:jerkoff:dead:

Every old fucker would be envious at my funeral.:lol:

Dr.Jeffry Life is a role model of anti aging.He's 72 at this picture.God bless steroids and viagra.

[Avers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qG-xo0gd1o

[Castrated]

Salut à toutes,
je cherche des infos pour une castration en france...
merci
ps: on en connait beaucoup qui l'on faite, je ne comprends pas les messages visant à dissuader.

[diddyboponTOP]

1 who the hell would wanna marry a ball less man? Two why would a man wanna life a long life without his nuts? Or any kind of life at all, if I lose mine it's a wrap, life ain't that important!

[diddyboponTOP]

Salut à toutes,
je cherche des infos pour une castration en france...
merci
ps: on en connait beaucoup qui l'on faite, je ne comprends pas les messages visant à dissuader.

Two of my ex's did it as did several TS that I slept with, nothing wrong in that case but a man like myself? That's not even an option if cancer comes so will a rope

[diddyboponTOP]

For some reason, this will sound like a line from a very bad movie: I’d rather live 54 years like a man, than a 100 as less than one!
Hrrmmm!...

Exactly Fam, that's word!