TS Adriella Vendramine attacked in Dublin

[gslang]

There is a news report in Dublin, that Adriella Vendramine was severely beaten, with a hammer and knives leaving her in a coma.

According to local accounts, at the weekend a group of 4-5 men raided the flat she shared with 2 TVs in a robbery.

http://www.escort-ireland.com/boards/threads/100684-Terrible-news-TS-Adriella-Vendramine-between-life-and-death

This is a terrible reminder of the dangers these working girls face everyday.

[carl essex]

cant view the link, can u copy and paste pls

[JenniferParisHusband]

Someone needs to find them and do the same to them.

[gslang]

Just register with Escorts-Ireland. ive cut&pasted the first post. there are several messages of shock and some more details. the



Terrible news, TS Adriella Vendramine between life and death
It seems as this weekend Adriella Vendramine and 2 other TV girls that were sharing flat with her were attacked by 4 or 5 fellas. The results are that Adriella is in the hospital between life and death, they hit her with a hammer and they cut her with knives too.

TV, TS AND MALES are getting threats to death in dublin lately and this are the results.

It would be great if anybody have anymore information and can let us know everyone.

I dont understand why some people come here to the internet and leave bad reviews or bad comments, now we can see with what type of people have to deal escorts sometimes and I believe they do this cause they have to eat as everyone, they have families and so on, all they risk their lives, better lookings or worse, cheaper or more expensive, we all should try to respect them and if even we get a service we dont enjoy no point to leave bad feedback, what feedback can leave now this beauty Adriella Vendramine ? She is in the hospital trying to survive...............

Really very bad news and poor them, hope the garda have arrested them.




Subsequently the Message Board Admin posted this:

I am still working on this Girls.

The TS girl who has been attacked is in hospital in coma. Very sad news.

I do have a number for this incident, this is number that threat girls after this incident so this number possibly belong to attackers.

These Irish guys came over with intention to rob girls working in apartment, girls tried to defend themselves and not allow them to take their stuff.

Unfortunately this whole situation end up like this.

I am still trying to find out more, attackers description etc. If I will know anything more , I will add to this thread.

Big thanks to Lucia our advertising team member who called to number of Girls and took her time to gather infos for us.

For the cynics the escorts here regularly 'borrow' each others pictures, names.. and of course operate from the same locations, under the supervision of a 'mother chicken'. And there have been cases of some stars appearing in multiple locations. however, there appears to be some supporting evidence that unfortunately this terrible attack did take place.

[Prospero]

Shocking and awful. I can only hope that Adriella makes a full recovery and that these vile people are arrested.

[tsadriana]

Shocking ...Adriella jope she will recover .....Why they don let us alone.

[danthepoetman]

With a hammer and knives! What a bunch of crazy, disgusting fucks (excuse my French)! And all of that for a little bit of dough… How can that be worth someone’s life. Fucking pigs these guys are. Just unbelievable!
I hope the poor girl makes it.
Is there any news of the two others? or has Adriella fought for the three of them?

[rasta]

Sad and Shocking. Can we send them anything? Want to help somehow

[tsadriana]

Ive made an account on that site and nothing about this subject posted in here...im gonna try to find .

[tsadriana]

There is a news report in Dublin, that Adriella Vendramine was severely beaten, with a hammer and knives leaving her in a coma.

According to local accounts, at the weekend a group of 4-5 men raided the flat she shared with 2 TVs in a robbery.

http://www.escort-ireland.com/boards/threads/100684-Terrible-news-TS-Adriella-Vendramine-between-life-and-death

This is a terrible reminder of the dangers these working girls face everyday.
Darling can u help us with the article ...As i dont find anything about this situation in there...Can u copy/paste in here for us to read pls?thank u

[tsadriana]

I have to wait till they allow me to acces this topic...im waiting for activation,thats why i couldn`t read.

[Schimmel]

Happened in Ireland? Typical.

[tsadriana]

Happened in Ireland? Typical.
Happens everywhere darling trust me,some sick twisted weack men who are not able to fight with men and they measure their pwers with someone like us or even with women.

[gslang]

this item has now been moved from their open forum "TS/TV Scene"
to a restricted "Ugly Mugs" section intended for escorts&staff to discuss and detail dangerous clients.
the initial report and reaction was cut&pasted above. if i remember the other 2 TVs were reported to have been hurt jumping from a window.

unfortunately, across the world, escorts have always been seen as easy prey to thugs.

[danthepoetman]

Lol!

[MacShreach]

With a hammer and knives! What a bunch of crazy, disgusting fucks (excuse my French)! And all of that for a little bit of dough… How can that be worth someone’s life. Fucking pigs these guys are. Just unbelievable!
I hope the poor girl makes it.
Is there any news of the two others? or has Adriella fought for the three of them?

It's not clear from the report whether this was simple transphobia or a robbery gone wrong, probably both. And no I am absolutely not condoning what these scum did, in fact I hope they have the same meted out to them threefold. I really hope this poor girl recovers, though she may be very badly damaged both physically and psychologically.

However it has to be said that in a situation like that, unless you are possessed of vastly superior armament, (which in my case would be the 12-gauge pump hanging above the fireplace,) any attempt to resist is shockingly dangerous. Yeah it's shit but you give them what they want and let them go.

There's shedloads of evidence--I don't have time now but I can look out some links if anyone asks--that in any situation where a TS/TG is confronted by violence, that violence will be more extreme, more vicious and vastly more damaging than were the victim a 'regular' male or female. It's appalling but simply, statistically true: where a man might get a sore face, a TS/TG may well end up battered to death; indeed there are many cases where it is clear that a murdered TS/TG had sustained sufficient injury to kill her (or him) many times over.

Why this horrible fact should be true is complex and relatively poorly researched. But everyone should be aware of the risks TS and TG people (of both genders) take, especially in, shall we say, less sophisticated parts of the world.

[danthepoetman]

However it has to be said that in a situation like that, unless you are possessed of vastly superior armament, (which in my case would be the 12-gauge pump hanging above the fireplace,) any attempt to resist is shockingly dangerous. Yeah it's shit but you give them what they want and let them go.

There's shedloads of evidence--I don't have time now but I can look out some links if anyone asks--that in any situation where a TS/TG is confronted by violence, that violence will be more extreme, more vicious and vastly more damaging than were the victim a 'regular' male or female. It's appalling but simply, statistically true: where a man might get a sore face, a TS/TG may well end up battered to death; indeed there are many cases where it is clear that a murdered TS/TG had sustained sufficient injury to kill her (or him) many times over.

Why this horrible fact should be true is complex and relatively poorly researched. But everyone should be aware of the risks TS and TG people (of both genders) take, especially in, shall we say, less sophisticated parts of the world.

Of course, I agree with you, MacShreach. But you have to keep in mind that it’s probably quite difficult to complain (in Ireland, from what I know) for simple robbery, as the money is the result of escorting. And I suppose that psychologically, it’s probably also quite difficult to let go of money so hardly made. Besides, we don’t know what the statute of these girls is in this country; we can’t be sure they are there in all legality. I would assume it should be hard for them to give everything to the first comer –and I’m sure there’s a lot of them…

[MacShreach]

I absolutely agree about the difficulties about making a complaint, though I think in most jurisdictions a complaint about a violent, murderous assault would be investigated before the complainants' fiscal posiition. In general terms, the law favours the complainer, after all. I would be the very last person to say something that might encourage attacks like this but the simple fact is that violent criminals intent on robbery are already in a highly dangerous, borderline psychotic frame of mind, which is why they habitually wreck peoples' homes and shit in their beds etc. Add to that the well described phenomenon of transphobia, which the anecdotal evidence overwhelmingly suggests will only add to the violence of the attack, means the situation is really grim for TS/TG people; they are left with the choice of not resisting, being robbed and possibly beaten, or resisting, which if it fails, will result in them still being robbed and possibly killed or as in this case put in a coma with who-knows-what potential longterm consequences.

Spending some time covering police courts would convince even the most sceptical, I think, that the former course of action, though unpalatable, is the better. Opportunist robbers will run when uncovered; if they don't, that means they're psyched up and tooled up and unless you have absolute confidence in your ability to physically overpower them, resistance is, as I said, shockingly dangerous.

[danthepoetman]

And of course, it is certain that no amount of money is worth risking your life…

[Nikka]

Is not the first time I read something bad about Dublin

[MacShreach]

Is not the first time I read something bad about Dublin

Under its urbane exterior, it's a tough town, and the economic collapse of the country has made things a lot worse...Personally I would regard it as Not Safe for TS/TG. There's no money there now anyway, no point in staying

[MacShreach]

And of course, it is certain that no amount of money is worth risking your life…

Word

[sosed]

I hope she will survive. :praying:

[danthepoetman]

Word
Yep! Word Perfect! :)

[robertlouis]

Under its urbane exterior, it's a tough town, and the economic collapse of the country has made things a lot worse...Personally I would regard it as Not Safe for TS/TG. There's no money there now anyway, no point in staying

That's sadly all too true. It's not the fun and civilised place that it was to visit during the 90s. It's likely that countries like Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece will or have already become difficult environments for sex workers, tg or otherwise.

[Prospero]

Poverty and desperation breeds the need for victims and scapegoats and brings up old intolerances. I think RL is riht to speculate that other European countries wracked by economic ills will became more dangerous places for sex workers. And we are already seing hatred towards eother minority groups - such as Gypsies.

However the - now deleted - ignorant outpourings of hatred towards the irish and the branding of the Irish people as primitive and uncivilised thugs - is wholly innappropriate in response to a tragic attack of this sort. Similar attacks have happened in the US and the UK.

[danthepoetman]

You’re right, Prospero. Irish culture is a 2000 years old +, venerable, remarkable, rich and imposing culture. It fully belongs with the old noble cultures of Europe. During the Darkest ages in European history, it became the depositary of some of the most important documents of the Western world.
I know if I have said anything that offended Irish people for my part, or encouraged such comments, I do apologize; I really didn’t meant to, of course…

[Prospero]

It wasn't you Dan - the offender has just one post left in the thread where he remarked "typical".. which he then followed with a flood of abuse about the irish being primitive savages. Pathetic ignorance.

The people who did this were, indeed, savages... but not typical of irish or of men.

[MacShreach]

You’re right, Prospero. Irish culture is a 2000 years old +, venerable, remarkable, rich and imposing culture. It fully belongs with the old noble cultures of Europe. During the Darkest ages in European history, it became the depositary of some of the most important documents of the Western world.
I know if I have said anything that offended Irish people for my part, or encouraged such comments, I do apologize; I really didn’t meant to, of course…

Yeah we know that Dan, some people are just hyper-sensitive. A large part of my bleedin family are Irish and they are not upset by having their obvious shortcomings pointed out--they did actually elect the Biffer as Taoiseach, after all. And yes they are rightly proud of their cultural tradition, which is closely related and in many ways antedecent to my own. This is not about the Irish but about transphobia, which is international.

On the broader issue of transabuse, I question whether our whole response to the question is not itself abusive, in that we medicalise it, refer to it as a disorder, an abnormality, a 'paraphilia' or a fetish instead of what it really is--a naturally occurring phenomenon. It is not up to transsexuals to change to suit society, but for the broader society to adapt to them as they are.

[Prospero]

On the broader issue of transabuse, I question whether our whole response to the question is not itself abusive, in that we medicalise it, refer to it as a disorder, an abnormality, a 'paraphilia' or a fetish instead of what it really is--a naturally occurring phenomenon. It is not up to transsexuals to change to suit society, but for the broader society to adapt to them as they are.

I agree with that.

Regarding the shortcomings of the irish, that is for the irish to own - not for someone here to abuse all irish in profoundly ignorant way because some thugs beat up a girl.

[MacShreach]

I agree with that.

Regarding the shortcomings of the irish, that is for the irish to own - not for someone here to abuse all irish in profoundly ignorant way because some thugs beat up a girl.


Being 1/4 Irish, I appreciate your sentiments, at least. But we Celtic types are pretty thick-skinned and well able to laugh at ourselves. Yes we drink too much (in general), some of us are way too prone to fighting and actually, a good many of the stereotypes have basis in reality. But we laugh at them.

[MacShreach]

The other 3/4 is Scottish, btw, in case you hadn't guessed! (Though my name surely is a giveaway <<<

[Prospero]

LOL... MacShreach... well my ancestry is considerably irish too - and happy to laugh at our shortcomings but as you note proud of other things (literary heritage for one - Yeats, Shaw, Beckett, Synge, Wilde, Heaney etc etc)

[Tiffany Starr]

Thats why I always Carry. I'm also a good shot so I doubt i'll be kissing any hammers soon. on topic that is very depressing. No TS girl should suffer hate like that.

[Jericho]

Thats why I always Carry. I'm also a good shot so I doubt i'll be kissing any hammers soon.

A gun may improve your odds, it doesn't make you invulnerable. There are better ways of protecting yourself. :shrug

[Nikka]

A gun may improve your odds, it doesn't make you invulnerable. There are better ways of protecting yourself. :shrug

it is better to be a killing machine with some self defense technic, and always sober (very important)

[GroobySteven]

Thats why I always Carry. I'm also a good shot so I doubt i'll be kissing any hammers soon. on topic that is very depressing. No TS girl should suffer hate like that.

Brilliant. :yayo:

[GroobySteven]

"On the Seventh Day the Lord rested, but befores that he did, he took a squat over the side of England and what came out of him... was Ireland."

Name the movie?
(joking by the way - plenty of Celt in me).

[castor_troyuk]

Gotta be Bill the Butcher in Gangs of New York. Great movie

[gslang]

http://www.roadkilltshirts.com/Assets/ProductImages/PS_0542_HAVE_IRISH_NEW.jpg

ive always enjoyed my visits to Dublin, and it is a lively place.

(and as a generalisation from my experience) where they love their drink, and a long story and are quick to fight. Even the children and elderly walk around with blackeyes and scratches. In fairness, I originate from Croydon and its a shithole, i prefer Dublin...

I think this thread has moved away from the genuine concern about Adriella and the highlighting of the terrible risks working girls routinely take.

Unfortunately the irish website updates are no longer available now to regular members but restricted to registered escorts. In this area they share information about abusive, dangerous, time-wasting callers.

Dont know if any of her contacts have any more informaton they can share with us.

[danthepoetman]

it is better to be a killing machine with some self defense technic, and always sober (very important)
Oups! I'm in trouble!
I can handle myself in any bar brawl, but I'm no killing machine. As far as being always sober is concerned, well... er... ;)

[GroobySteven]

Gotta be Bill the Butcher in Gangs of New York. Great movie

Got it!

[miner]

Second that about Gangs of New York.

[wolfhound]

being irish i do get sick of us being generalised whenever anything bad happens or is written about us. I am not from dublin but like most cities it can be dangerous in certain areas. i also know that there is about 40 regular tv's/ts's there at one time and this is the first time something this bad has happened from what i know. to the people who claim we're "savages" or whatever. don't waste your breath, if you hate that obviously than no one will listen to you anyway

[gslang]

Im glad that this forum is taking a stand against some of the worst kinds of racism and hate.

People will make judgments on places, and people, based on limited knowledge and imperfect generalisations. i dont think dublin any worse than other parts of europe. And the lack of legal recognition and protection means we cant be sure about the relative risks faced by sexworkers and transsexuals (whether working or not). Of course, we know those risks are real, and even one attack is one too many.

shocking news today about the levels of violence transsexuals subjected to in Brazil, described as the
“transgender murder capital of the world”

http://www.bikyamasr.com/79032/trangender-face-highest-murder-rate-in-brazil/

[QUOTE]RIO DE JANEIRO: Brazil continues to witness the murder of transgender citizens in what local rights groups and lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) activists have said is “alarming.”

Brazil remains the “transgender murder capital of the world,” and it does not appear to be slowing.

A young transgender woman was found in a dumpster in São Paulo on September 16.

The 20-year-old woman, who investigators have not yet identified publicly, had been “murdered and mutilated, her genitals and an ear removed.”

Police say they suspect she was a sex worker, who was taken to the location and murdered by a john.

But the month before, another murder rocked the city’s LGBT community when a 23-year-old trans woman was murdered in Clementina and four other transgender women were shot in the city of São José do Rio Preto, of which two died.

Suspects have been arrested in both cases, one of them reportedly a former police officer. According to Grupo Gay da Bahia, an LGBT organization in Brazil, there were 266 murders of LGBT people in Brazil last year, six times more than in 2010.

One recent Grupo Gay da Bahia report, according to Gay Star News, concludes that Brazil has the highest rate of LGBT murders in the world; the risk of a gay man being murdered in Brazil is 800 percent higher than in the United States; and one Brazilian LGBT person was murdered every 33 hours in 2011.

For Martina, that number is scary and she fears going to certain areas of Rio de Janeiro, where groups of men often look for those that appear different.

“If a gay or lesbian was found in these slums, they would probably be beaten or raped, but a trans woman, that would be unthinkable and I don’t think coming out alive would happen,” she told Bikyamasr.com, herself a trans woman.

She believes that the police do little to crackdown on such crimes before they happen “because they actually promote it in many ways by what they tell the community. All trans people must be sex workers, right?”

For her, this is the issue, and at the heart of the matter for the country. If Brazil is going to tackle its prejudice, “it has to understand that we have to talk about it.”/QUOTE]

[MacShreach]

Im glad that this forum is taking a stand against some of the worst kinds of racism and hate.

People will make judgments on places, and people, based on limited knowledge and imperfect generalisations. i dont think dublin any worse than other parts of europe. And the lack of legal recognition and protection means we cant be sure about the relative risks faced by sexworkers and transsexuals (whether working or not). Of course, we know those risks are real, and even one attack is one too many.

shocking news today about the levels of violence transsexuals subjected to in Brazil, described as the
“transgender murder capital of the world”

http://www.bikyamasr.com/79032/trangender-face-highest-murder-rate-in-brazil/

[QUOTE]RIO DE JANEIRO: Brazil continues to witness the murder of transgender citizens in what local rights groups and lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) activists have said is “alarming.”

Brazil remains the “transgender murder capital of the world,” and it does not appear to be slowing.

A young transgender woman was found in a dumpster in São Paulo on September 16.

The 20-year-old woman, who investigators have not yet identified publicly, had been “murdered and mutilated, her genitals and an ear removed.”

Police say they suspect she was a sex worker, who was taken to the location and murdered by a john.

But the month before, another murder rocked the city’s LGBT community when a 23-year-old trans woman was murdered in Clementina and four other transgender women were shot in the city of São José do Rio Preto, of which two died.

Suspects have been arrested in both cases, one of them reportedly a former police officer. According to Grupo Gay da Bahia, an LGBT organization in Brazil, there were 266 murders of LGBT people in Brazil last year, six times more than in 2010.

One recent Grupo Gay da Bahia report, according to Gay Star News, concludes that Brazil has the highest rate of LGBT murders in the world; the risk of a gay man being murdered in Brazil is 800 percent higher than in the United States; and one Brazilian LGBT person was murdered every 33 hours in 2011.

For Martina, that number is scary and she fears going to certain areas of Rio de Janeiro, where groups of men often look for those that appear different.

“If a gay or lesbian was found in these slums, they would probably be beaten or raped, but a trans woman, that would be unthinkable and I don’t think coming out alive would happen,” she told Bikyamasr.com, herself a trans woman.

She believes that the police do little to crackdown on such crimes before they happen “because they actually promote it in many ways by what they tell the community. All trans people must be sex workers, right?”

For her, this is the issue, and at the heart of the matter for the country. If Brazil is going to tackle its prejudice, “it has to understand that we have to talk about it.”/QUOTE]


It's all too depressingly true, and Brazil has a terrible record. The police are often involved, as here. The violence against transsexuals in Brazil has been going on for decades and is very well documented.

I still think the economic downturn will have the effect of increasing these in areas of Europe and maybe elsewhere which have been badly affected by it. I've nothing against either the Irish or Dublin, where several of my family live, but transsexuals are too obvious and at least perceived to be too easy a target.

[danthepoetman]

BlackCat just posted this one on a thread. Made me think. I hope the poor girl is ok, alive and out of trouble...

[Prospero]

Originally Posted by suttonporksword EIGHTEEN HOURS AGO
Adryella Vendramine is in birmingham right now....£200 for the hour


So what is the truth?

[danthepoetman]

:lol:
Thanks, Prospero.
It sure takes care of this one...

[gslang]

with these brazilian gangs its hard to tell any truth, hence the reference to 'alleged" at the beginning and the concern about the lack of any corroborating report.

in ireland the resident group were clearly using pictures and names of superstars to attract unsuspecting customers. plus the use of such scare stories and direct treats to other visiting tgirls. Camilia cut short her last visit there cos of these.

im glad the vigilant members here can help discover more information, if not the whole truth.

[youngblood61]

It always seems these lovely ladies are under attack. Maybe you ladies should pack like Tiff! From a fan, to all the girls be safe!:)

[GroobySteven]

FYI - have it from a good source (Damazo) that this is true, that Adriella was attacked. She does now seem to be okay.

[mistab]

Just saw her listed on eros- Birmingham England....listed her as post-op...is this true?