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SFTB
09-25-2012, 09:01 PM
Today, our cowboy President stood in front of the UN, declared that an Arab nation was developing WMD, and supporting terrorist and that the time was running out before the US has to act.

Only CHANGE this time is the cowboy came from Chicago.

What change? Someone say change?

"He also blasted Iran, whose president on Monday declared Israel has "no roots in the Middle East," blaming it for "propping up a dictatorship in Damascus" and supporting terrorist groups abroad.

Obama said that while the United States remains committed to a diplomatic solution on Iran's nuclear program, "time is not unlimited."

While Iranian leaders say their nuclear program is for peaceful purposes, western leaders believe Tehran wants to build a nuclear weapon. U.N. inspectors also have expressed doubts about the program's aims.

The consequences of a nuclear-armed Iran are immense, Obama told delegates.

"It would threaten the elimination of Israel, the security of Gulf nations, and the stability of the global economy. It risks triggering a nuclear-arms race in the region, and the unraveling of the non-proliferation treaty," Obama said."

Quiet Reflections
09-25-2012, 09:34 PM
So what? what would you have done differently?

MacShreach
09-25-2012, 09:39 PM
Oh was a bit confused there...but it's just the resident dickhead. Move along, nothing to see here...

SFTB
09-25-2012, 09:43 PM
So what? what would you have done differently?

Thank you for getting my point. There has been no change, and he has done nothing different. Same playbook, different coach.

Quiet Reflections
09-25-2012, 09:52 PM
Thank you for getting my point. There has been no change, and he has done nothing different. Same playbook, different coach.
Ok, so what playbook would you like to use? What play would you have called? How could that situation have been handled different? Is he being a cowboy or dealing with that problem the same way everyone else would? No other president would have done anything different except use different words.

SFTB
09-25-2012, 10:12 PM
Is he being a cowboy or dealing with that problem the same way everyone else would? No other president would have done anything different except use different words.

THANK YOU! My point exactly. There has been no change. He is just like every other president. You all bought a bill of goods, and now you're making excuses for him.

"Well, sure he's saying we'll go to war if this MidEast country doent stop pursuing WMD, no different than any other President"

"Sure he keeps bailing the banks out, sure he's taken the deficit to unheard of levels, sure more people are on assistance, sure ...."

All you Kool Aid drinkers crack me up, he's no different than any others, you bought into the whole CHANGE and you got more of the same.

Marts
09-25-2012, 10:14 PM
@SFTB .. question remains, what would you have done differently?

trish
09-25-2012, 10:17 PM
Today, our cowboy President stood in front of the UN, declared that an Arab nation was developing WMD...Sorry but you're confused. About three terms ago the cowboy president sent a representative to the UN to falsely declare a terrorist nation was developing WMDs. The current president doesn't dress up in cowboy boots or wear ten gallon hats while pretending to clear brush on his " ranch". The other difference is the current president didn't lie.

Quiet Reflections
09-25-2012, 10:20 PM
THANK YOU! My point exactly. There has been no change. He is just like every other president. You all bought a bill of goods, and now you're making excuses for him.

"Well, sure he's saying we'll go to war if this MidEast country doent stop pursuing WMD, no different than any other President"

"Sure he keeps bailing the banks out, sure he's taken the deficit to unheard of levels, sure more people are on assistance, sure ...."

All you Kool Aid drinkers crack me up, he's no different than any others, you bought into the whole CHANGE and you got more of the same.
So you aren't going to answer? Is it safe to say then that you, yourself wouldn't have done anything different? And I'm not an Obama supporter, If i'm going with a powdered drink mix I like crystal light or tang.

SFTB
09-25-2012, 10:20 PM
The other difference is the current president didn't lie.

Trish, Obama has taken the art of lying to a new level.

65 Outrageous Lies by President Obama - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg9m1F8B2_c)

trish
09-25-2012, 10:46 PM
I'm sorry but I've seen all the Breitbart tricks on the art of taking quotes out of context and all the Romney ads that misquote Obama and lift fragments of his speeches out of context. I'm not about to be suckered into providing the context for 65 different sentence fragments. Now if you want to hear more lies in context than you thought could be crammed into the space of one speech (and that's Fox New's characterization, not mine) just listen to the whole of Ryan's acceptance speech that he presented to the National Republican Conention in Florida just weeks ago.

SFTB
09-25-2012, 11:48 PM
The current president doesn't dress up in cowboy boots or wear ten gallon hats while pretending to clear brush on his " ranch". The other difference is the current president didn't lie.

No Trish the current President goes around spreading democracy and now we have the build up of yet another war. Once again where's the CHANGE? He has done nothing but continue the cowboy politics from before.

You guys would be screaming if Bush was involved in Libya, meddling in Syria, and bearing down on Iran. Kinda hypocritical. But to paraphrase one poster, 'he's just doing what any other President would do"

loveboof
09-25-2012, 11:56 PM
No Trish the current President goes around spreading democracy and now we have the build up of yet another war. Once again where's the CHANGE? He has done nothing but continue the cowboy politics from before.

You guys would be screaming if Bush was involved in Libya, meddling in Syria, and bearing down on Iran. Kinda hypocritical. But to paraphrase one poster, 'he's just doing what any other President would do"

Yeah ok I get what you're saying, now how about some solutions? It's easy to point out a problem, but not so easy to find answers...

You dislike Bush and you dislike Obama, do you seriously believe Romney is the guy for you? ....seriously? lol

trish
09-26-2012, 12:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcXjhikIz6o&feature=player_embedded#!

Quiet Reflections
09-26-2012, 12:09 AM
No Trish the current President goes around spreading democracy and now we have the build up of yet another war. Once again where's the CHANGE? He has done nothing but continue the cowboy politics from before.

You guys would be screaming if Bush was involved in Libya, meddling in Syria, and bearing down on Iran. Kinda hypocritical. But to paraphrase one poster, 'he's just doing what any other President would do"
Still not going to answer the question? How would you have handled the situation differently? And he is not just doing what any other president would do, he is doing what any person in that situation would do. You call him out for his cowboy tactics, SO how he could have handled it better?

natina
09-26-2012, 12:11 AM
sometimes you have to repeat things to SLOW LEARNERS OR IDIOTS OR BOTH.

I just hit them with a frying pan or WMD but if we allow Iran to do what Hitler and japan started wow!


Sorry but you're confused. About three terms ago the cowboy president sent a representative to the UN to falsely declare a terrorist nation was developing WMDs. The current president doesn't dress up in cowboy boots or wear ten gallon hats while pretending to clear brush on his " ranch". The other difference is the current president didn't lie.


Sorry but you're confused. About three terms ago the cowboy president sent a representative to the UN to falsely declare a terrorist nation was developing WMDs. The current president doesn't dress up in cowboy boots or wear ten gallon hats while pretending to clear brush on his " ranch". The other difference is the current president didn't lie.


Sorry but you're confused. About three terms ago the cowboy president sent a representative to the UN to falsely declare a terrorist nation was developing WMDs. The current president doesn't dress up in cowboy boots or wear ten gallon hats while pretending to clear brush on his " ranch". The other difference is the current president didn't lie.


Sorry but you're confused. About three terms ago the cowboy president sent a representative to the UN to falsely declare a terrorist nation was developing WMDs. The current president doesn't dress up in cowboy boots or wear ten gallon hats while pretending to clear brush on his " ranch". The other difference is the current president didn't lie.

Quiet Reflections
09-26-2012, 12:11 AM
do you seriously believe Romney is the guy for you?

I would love to meet the person that honestly thinks Romney is the cure for what ails us.

Prospero
09-26-2012, 12:37 AM
SFTP - you talk simplistic drivel on foreign policy. There IS a difference. There was no evidence of WMD in iraq. None. An Bush and his allies (including Blair) knew it. This was pat of the ne-cons project for a new american century. Hah! This time there is growing and considerable evidence of the attempt to get such weapons and of Iran's genuine hostility to other nations in the region. Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, Qatar and others are very scared of iran - and so obviously is Israel. Stop peddling simple minded ness.

natina
09-26-2012, 12:40 AM
He is a s---l----o----w learner

Prospero
09-26-2012, 12:46 AM
No SFTP has other motives.

To try and suggest the US (with Nato) involvement in Libya was comparable to Bush's fuck-up in Iraq is ludicrous. And what exactly is the US involvement in Syria? Spell that out please SFTP - in detail for all us poor unenlightened souls here.

Obama's foreign policy approach is far from perfect for sure. He has certainly also failed to close Guantanamo. But he is trying to do the right thing. Unlike his predecessor. There are now no covert prisons overseas where suspects were rendered to for torture. Under the eye and knowledge of President Bush and his gang. And meanwhile Mr Romney proclaims that the Palestinians and israelis will never have peace - so why should the US bother getting involved.