Cameraman in Porn shoots

[evilernie]

Are there camera men in porn that are strictly professional? Ones that don't participate in the action nor sample the goodies off camera?

[GrimFusion]

I can't name off names, nor can I stipulate about who fucks who while cameras aren't recording, but the vast majority of camera men don't participate during the shoot because it is unprofessional. Some porn connoisseurs don't give a damn, and the ones that do find other porn.

[TempestTS]

Ive done over 60 scenes, never have I had a camera op or director be anything but utterly professional with me. Ive been treated better in porn than at any day job hands down.

[terrygrooby]

I never do the first step and i specify to all my models know that they don't have to do anything with me...

But most of the time they ask if they can see/touch/suck my cock before they have to cum.

In Thailand, i shoot a lot of non escort girls with regular jobs. Many of them don't speak english at all and never had a white partner and sometimes, the fact that they can have sex with me is one of the conditions for them to accept to shoot. Many ask if i can shoot all naked too, which is pretty uncomfortable. Some girls who takes a lot of hormones won't cum if they don't get fucked either.

One thai girl requested to suck my toes to cum...

In France, my models for shemaleyum usually ask to see/touch my cock when they have to cum. I had one girl who asked me to talk dirty to her while having my hand inside my underwear. After 20 minutes i ran out of imagination...

I do it to get them being horny, to have them do a great scene, to get them cum, etc. Which is being professional.

[Ecstatic]

I never expect it nor initiate it. Occasionally a model will request some flufffing, and I'll comply, but I'm strictly professional and and treat all models professionally.

[HbgDon]

I never do the first step and i specify to all my models know that they don't have to do anything with me...

But most of the time they ask if they can see/touch/suck my cock before they have to cum.

In Thailand, i shoot a lot of non escort girls with regular jobs. Many of them don't speak english at all and never had a white partner and sometimes, the fact that they can have sex with me is one of the conditions for them to accept to shoot. Many ask if i can shoot all naked too, which is pretty uncomfortable. Some girls who takes a lot of hormones won't cum if they don't get fucked either.

One thai girl requested to suck my toes to cum...

In France, my models for shemaleyum usually ask to see/touch my cock when they have to cum. I had one girl who asked me to talk dirty to her while having my hand inside my underwear. After 20 minutes i ran out of imagination...

I do it to get them being horny, to have them do a great scene, to get them cum, etc. Which is being professional.

Can I be one of your cameramen?

[rodinuk]

Are there camera men in porn that are strictly professional? Ones that don't participate in the action nor sample the goodies off camera?

aww you're buying into the fantasy...you've been watching too much gonzo ;)

[terrygrooby]

I work alone, thanks

[terrygrooby]

Here is the exact moment when she asked me if i could fuck her a bit. Saying no is just not possible to me.

[danthepoetman]

Oh! Terry, man, that’s almost cruel for the rest of us! :) This is the hole of all happiness!

[terrygrooby]

Oh! Terry, man, that’s almost cruel for the rest of us! :) This is the hole of all happiness!

Her name is Tik, she is fantastic. I could marry her today.

[danthepoetman]

She must have the longest, most beautiful legs I’ve ever seen, though I suppose your talent as a photographer as a bit to do with it. What a lovely little ass, what a beautiful girl! Yeap: marriage material indeed! a little birdy you don’t let go of when you can keep it.

[MrBlonde]

Here is the exact moment when she asked me if i could fuck her a bit. Saying no is just not possible to me.


Man that's a hot and amazing shot!

[LibertyHarkness]

Terry i have a question , are you tested for STI/HIV every 3weeks like the rest of the industry performers ?

[Kevin Dong]

I never do the first step and i specify to all my models know that they don't have to do anything with me...

But most of the time they ask if they can see/touch/suck my cock before they have to cum.

In Thailand, i shoot a lot of non escort girls with regular jobs. Many of them don't speak english at all and never had a white partner and sometimes, the fact that they can have sex with me is one of the conditions for them to accept to shoot. Many ask if i can shoot all naked too, which is pretty uncomfortable. Some girls who takes a lot of hormones won't cum if they don't get fucked either.

One thai girl requested to suck my toes to cum...

In France, my models for shemaleyum usually ask to see/touch my cock when they have to cum. I had one girl who asked me to talk dirty to her while having my hand inside my underwear. After 20 minutes i ran out of imagination...

I do it to get them being horny, to have them do a great scene, to get them cum, etc. Which is being professional.

If only people knew the things we have to do to get these scenes...hahahaha. Doesn't sound very different from Canada. Tgirls are the same everywhere - horny!

[terrygrooby]

Man that's a hot and amazing shot!

Thanks a lot. Again, she was stunning and the sweetest model...like most of them. I choose every single models that i shoot and i do love them all.


Terry i have a question , are you tested for STI/HIV every 3weeks like the rest of the industry performers ?

Not every 3 weeks. The only thing i do without protection is having my cock sucked.


If only people knew the things we have to do to get these scenes...hahahaha. Doesn't sound very different from Canada. Tgirls are the same everywhere - horny!

Yeah, i'm not sure for non-thai girls, but here they feel very uncomfortable to be shot by guys who are not attracted by TS. All the thai escorts tell me about that kind of shoots, they hate it. That's one of the first thing that they ask me.

[amberskyi]

ive had two different photographers touch me with out asking.it made me feel extremely uncomfortable but because i was young and new to the industry i didnt speak up.now of course i know better.im being paid to do a shoot for a site not to be fondled by some horny camera guy.
one of the reasons i love shooting with grooby photographer Remy is because she has never once crossed any boundaries and always acted in a professional manner.in fact it seems her specialty is getting girls who have sworn off doing porn (usually theyve been taken advantage of sexually and financially by photographers and other) comfortable and confident enough to reenter the porn industry.

[LibertyHarkness]

hear you on that amber .. nowadays if a photographer tried to touch me on a shoot i would have no hesitations in breaking their nose for them .

Kinda why i like female photographers , they leave you alone ... much like why models enjoy me shooting them as i leave them alone ..

[joannajet]

Hi,

My experience is that cameramen/photographers/producers who are looking to get some sexual playtime are usually useless at producing commercial material because they do not focus (nor care) on the quality of their work.

Joanna

xxx

[GroobySteven]

Terry i have a question , are you tested for STI/HIV every 3weeks like the rest of the industry performers ?

The rest of the industry performers tested in California and a handful of other places. Given recent outbreaks, it clearly still doesn't work. What's your point?

[ew86riv]

maybe this is only me, but i get the impression that a lot of men who produce tranny porn use it as a way to hook up with the girls. i don't feel like most would do porn if it weren't tranny porn

[GroobySteven]

maybe this is only me, but i get the impression that a lot of men who produce tranny porn use it as a way to hook up with the girls. i don't feel like most would do porn if it weren't tranny porn

I'd agree a lot of them do - and the best tranny porn is produced by those who are into it, not just someone doing it for a check at the end of the day.

This isn't just for tranny porn but the whole industry and guys hooking up or getting action in the scene, has always been there. From my experience and talking to producers from multiple companies, quite often in our niche, the model initiates contact or asks the photographer to whip out his wotzit. This can make some models feel more comfortable or they need it to feel aroused and therefore, able to get erect and cum.

[Ecstatic]

Hi,

My experience is that cameramen/photographers/producers who are looking to get some sexual playtime are usually useless at producing commercial material because they do not focus (nor care) on the quality of their work.

Joanna

xxx

So true. Honestly, when I shoot I'm totally focused on the quality of the shoot (lighting, angles, expressions, positions, etc.) and not on anything else; there's no time or "bandwidth" for that.

[WendyWilliams]

I think there is a fine line between visual stimulation and actual fucking, especially in an area where testing is not mandatory. I have requested or hinted around for a guy to pull his cock out and play with it when I needed that "edge" to cum but in 11 years I can only think of that twice.

I agree with Joanna if a guy is in it for the "sex" or "benefits" it usually shows in his work.

Unlike Liberty I don't like to shoot for females and or TS ladies as it gives me a complex LOL, hard for me to focus. Though was easy to shoot with Joanna as she knew when I was struggling and could give me that space. Otherwise prefer a guy to do it.

As far as the testing comment goes I am with Lib on this, if a guy is fucking (even with a condom) a model on set especially again in an country with no mandatory testing that seems a bit risky.

I hope to see eventually companies no matter where you are located require testing even with a condom. I know that most ts companies do and it's becoming more that models are REQUESTING a recent test. But thats up to the models to make those demands! (whole diff topic) LOL.

[Remy757Photog]

I don't see how touching the girls is ever really necessary, I can understand as Wendy said, the model asking to see cock but everything else just really comes off as over board. It's only a matter of time before models become scorned and the photog develops a bad rep which reflects negatively on the company as a whole. I can understand if you know the model personally outside of business and something occurs on set between the two (model&photog) aside from that I fail to see any professionalism being displayed. We as producers wield a sort of power over the models, much like a teacher and student and it is our responsibility to maintain order. It is very simple to take a laptop with porn on it and let the model get 'erect' to that and then start filming. A lot of what happens "off camera" is suspect and I've come across a lot of girls with horror stories of men taking advantage of them, as they felt they just had to "go along with it" so that they can get paid for the shoot. If you want to get freaky with the models take them out and do so after they have been paid and business is concluded.

I've seen some very questionable footage where a model interacts with the producer 'on camera' during solos and hardcore shoots!?! It's my opinion that if a model is interacting sexually with the producer on camera during a solo the model should be compensated in pay for a hardcore shoot. I totally don't understand the producers that feel a need to film a hardcore scene (male model & female model) and then after their cum scene proceed to interact with the female model for the producers own cum scene, totally unnecessary and beyond unprofessional. I also agree that if producers are going to get sexual with models then they should also be required to be tested and show their results, which really shouldn't be a problem anyways, it's called being responsible.

[GrimFusion]

I don't see how touching the girls is ever really necessary, I can understand as Wendy said, the model asking to see cock but everything else just really comes off as over board. It's only a matter of time before models become scorned and the photog develops a bad rep which reflects negatively on the company as a whole. I can understand if you know the model personally outside of business and something occurs on set between the two (model&photog) aside from that I fail to see any professionalism being displayed. We as producers wield a sort of power over the models, much like a teacher and student and it is our responsibility to maintain order. It is very simple to take a laptop with porn on it and let the model get 'erect' to that and then start filming. A lot of what happens "off camera" is suspect and I've come across a lot of girls with horror stories of men taking advantage of them, as they felt they just had to "go along with it" so that they can get paid for the shoot. If you want to get freaky with the models take them out and do so after they have been paid and business is concluded.

I've seen some very questionable footage where a model interacts with the producer 'on camera' during solos and hardcore shoots!?! It's my opinion that if a model is interacting sexually with the producer on camera during a solo the model should be compensated in pay for a hardcore shoot. I totally don't understand the producers that feel a need to film a hardcore scene (male model & female model) and then after their cum scene proceed to interact with the female model for the producers own cum scene, totally unnecessary and beyond unprofessional. I also agree that if producers are going to get sexual with models then they should also be required to be tested and show their results, which really shouldn't be a problem anyways, it's called being responsible.

Agreed. It's more of a personal taste deal, but when I'm watching porn and a softcore solo scene turns into a pasty fat bastard molesting a model, it's not a turn-on. As you've already said, a laptop or a magazine should suffice and if it doesn't, a production company would still be able to turn a higher profit by including a male model in the scene and reshooting than allowing their camera guy to stand in. Male models are hired for their looks, stamina, and performance. Camera operators are hired for their technical skills and artistic prowess. It's obvious that a camera operator isn't going to give a shit about a shot when their cock is in the model's mouth or they're half a foot deep in ass.

That and I can only imagine it should be common practice to sit down with the model before a scene and explain how it's going to play out and what's expected just to make sure they feel comfortable with everything before it ever takes place. I don't think deviating from that makes the model feel comfortable or secure.

[christianxxx]

all of the agendas in this thread that are underlying but unspoken makes this thread extremely compelling. 2 thumbs up!

[TempestTS]

all of the agendas in this thread that are underlying but unspoken makes this thread extremely compelling. 2 thumbs up!

Wait... ??? Somebody was handing out Agenda's? Damn it I always miss the cool little extra's...

[terrygrooby]

Kinda why i like female photographers , they leave you alone ... much like why models enjoy me shooting them as i leave them alone ..

I never initiate anything, never do the first step either and make sure they know that they only have to do the shoot properly and that no matter what happen, they money will be same in the end and 95% of the time they will ask me if they can do something with me at some point during the shoot and when i shoot friends of girls i've already shot, they simply skip the "asking" part. A french girl even requested that i wear the same underwear than when i shot her friend...

I had a girl who tricked me multiple times: she came the first time for the shoot empty handed, said she forgot her id and kissed me right away. After we had sex she said that the next time she will come do only photo sure. But she did that 3 times in a row so when the 4th time she came, i was not expecting seeing her with 5 bags of clothes, make-up box, hair dryer and shit and i was not ready at all for the shoot.

[ew86riv]

I never initiate anything, never do the first step either and make sure they know that they only have to do the shoot properly and that no matter what happen, they money will be same in the end and 95% of the time they will ask me if they can do something with me at some point during the shoot and when i shoot friends of girls i've already shot, they simply skip the "asking" part. A french girl even requested that i wear the same underwear than when i shot her friend...

I had a girl who tricked me multiple times: she came the first time for the shoot empty handed, said she forgot her id and kissed me right away. After we had sex she said that the next time she will come do only photo sure. But she did that 3 times in a row so when the 4th time she came, i was not expecting seeing her with 5 bags of clothes, make-up box, hair dryer and shit and i was not ready at all for the shoot.

so u had sex with the girl 3 times before u shot anything with her? maybe i'm misinterpreting what you're saying, but that sounds unprofessional to me.

[terrygrooby]

I don't see how touching the girls is ever really necessary

Simply because they request it. I had all kinds of requests. French girls usually just ask me to shoot all naked, which i hate. The porn trick doesn't work, i have every kind just for that but they don't want it. The most common request i have when they have to cum is me kissing their nipple and/or suck me. A few just can't cum at all if i don't fuck them a few minutes and so far, those kind of girls always warned me about that right away.

I'm fluent in french and thai and my speech, sms, email prior every shoot is very clear and detailed about how the shoot will happen and what is needed to be done. I clearly say that nothing with me is needed at ay time and the first question i usually got is "but do you like TS?". I also insist that if they can't get hard or can't cum, it's not the end of the world and that they can come another day to finish shoot whenever they feel like it. I've had that and i didn't suggested anything about giving her some help. If they don't ask anything i won't say/do anything.

They always call me once a while, sms, chat, bring me their friends. They like how i work and even the few thoughest bar girls with bad reputations that i had, turned the sweetest girls ever when working with me. I treat them as people and they all feel comfortable shooting with me. That's why i can get almost any girls here and that i've never had a single problem with them unlike everyone else here who stick to bar girls and treat them like shit. And again, i'm fluent in thai so they know that if there is any problem, we can comunicate normally and they feel much more comfortable to work with someone who can understand them 100%.

Also, the way i treat them is one thing but the physical appearance matters too...It's not like i was old and fat.

[terrygrooby]

so u had sex with the girl 3 times before u shot anything with her? maybe i'm misinterpreting what you're saying, but that sounds unprofessional to me.

I get this all the time. Girls who don't want to shoot but just want me. They promise they will do but just come for sex. Usually after a few times they will say "sorry i just like to see you but i never wanted to do photos"

This one just changed her mind.

[ew86riv]

I get this all the time. Girls who don't want to shoot but just want me. They promise they will do but just come for sex. Usually after a few times they will say "sorry i just like to see you but i never wanted to do photos"

This one just changed her mind.

so now ur saying girls just want to have sex with u? honestly to me it sounds like ur using shooting porn to meet girls and hopefully something happens from there. what ur saying just sounds bad. it may be all good fun but it just comes across as bad.

[terrygrooby]

so now ur saying girls just want to have sex with u? honestly to me it sounds like ur using shooting porn to meet girls and hopefully something happens from there. what ur saying just sounds bad. it may be all good fun but it just comes across as bad.

You obviously have a limited capacity of reading and understanding english so let me rephrase:

i get some girls who don't want to shoot but lie about it saying they will do it in order to have sex with me and then eventually tell me the truth at some point.

[ew86riv]

You obviously have a limited capacity of reading and understanding english so let me rephrase:

i get some girls who don't want to shoot but lie about it saying they will do it in order to have sex with me and then eventually tell me the truth at some point.

is shooting with u a requirement to having sex with you? if the girls wants to have sex with u she just wants to have sex. i don't understand why the girl would have to lie to u.

[terrygrooby]

is shooting with u a requirement to having sex with you? if the girls wants to have sex with u she just wants to have sex. i don't understand why the girl would have to lie to u.


If you have an english speaking friend, please ask him/her to translate what i wrote to you. Thanks.

[giovanni_hotel]

It may not be professional, but personally I think it's hot when a model and photog get physical in a vid.

If a girl isn't be pressured to do it, I don't see any harm.

[ew86riv]

If you have an english speaking friend, please ask him/her to translate what i wrote to you. Thanks.

i don't need an english speaking friend to translate anything. from what i've read you come across as a scumbag. you wrote on here that a girl lied to you about wanting to do photos just to have sex with you, and you did have sex with her. then one day you weren't prepared for a shoot because you thought she was going to lie to you. if you're so professional then you should've stopped her from lying and made sure she was prepared for a shoot. maybe you should've sent her home if she wasn't preapared. instead you chose to let her keep doing the same thing. regardless of how many times you two had sex, i don't understand how even one time when it wasn't for a shoot is acceptable. if you said you had sex off camera just because you two wanted to, that's understandable. just stop trying to convince people that what you do with the girls is all professional and somehow necessary with the girls you're dealing with.

[terrygrooby]

i don't need an english speaking friend to translate anything. from what i've read you come across as a scumbag. you wrote on here that a girl lied to you about wanting to do photos just to have sex with you, and you did have sex with her. then one day you weren't prepared for a shoot because you thought she was going to lie to you. if you're so professional then you should've stopped her from lying and made sure she was prepared for a shoot. maybe you should've sent her home if she wasn't preapared. instead you chose to let her keep doing the same thing. regardless of how many times you two had sex, i don't understand how even one time when it wasn't for a shoot is acceptable. if you said you had sex off camera just because you two wanted to, that's understandable. just stop trying to convince people that what you do with the girls is all professional and somehow necessary with the girls you're dealing with.


you called me a scumbag ? discussion is over.

[ew86riv]

you called me a scumbag ? discussion is over.

ok scumbag. it was nice talking to you.

[danthepoetman]

Often, the best movies are those in which the director is personally implicated. For instance, Mila Jojovich was never as lovely, in my opinion, as when she was shot by her lover, Luc Besson, in The Fifth Element or Joan of Arc. You could say the same thing about many actresses, and you could say the same about sightings, about countries which are loved by the director. I don’t know: it seems to me that if the cameraman is in love with its subject, chances are, the result will be more interesting and exciting for the viewer. A few of the pics shown to us by Terry are hot indeed; I suspect the same phenomenon is at work, and we benefit from it…

[GroobySteven]

i don't need an english speaking friend to translate anything. from what i've read you come across as a scumbag. you wrote on here that a girl lied to you about wanting to do photos just to have sex with you, and you did have sex with her. then one day you weren't prepared for a shoot because you thought she was going to lie to you. if you're so professional then you should've stopped her from lying and made sure she was prepared for a shoot. maybe you should've sent her home if she wasn't preapared. instead you chose to let her keep doing the same thing. regardless of how many times you two had sex, i don't understand how even one time when it wasn't for a shoot is acceptable. if you said you had sex off camera just because you two wanted to, that's understandable. just stop trying to convince people that what you do with the girls is all professional and somehow necessary with the girls you're dealing with.


You've clearly never been to Thailand or worked with the models there. Lying (or avoiding the truth) is part of their National pastime. The guy can get laid with hot tgirls anytime he wants, they're everywhere and he's a great looking young European guy, in great shape with a great personality.

In the "old days" we used to get Thai students from the University coming over to do shoots and they absolutely expected and wanted to see the cameraman's penis or have interaction, that was part of the appeal to them as many were sexually inexperienced with white men and wouldn't have had much opportunity to meet them (other than prostitution). They enjoyed doing the shoots knowing their family would never see them, got paid well and had fun.

Our company policy is that a model should never be told or implied that she has to interact with the photographer unless explicitly agreed on beforehand. It is absolutely not necessary to work for us or get future work from us. It's extremely common, especially for the younger and/or better looking photographers to be asked to interact, which does far more for the model than a book/video. Somebody showing themselves to be clearly aroused for that model, will have that model feeling more aroused and able to perform better.

Photographers claiming it's "unprofessional" should take a long look at the industry they're in, the people that are paying them and instead of claiming that those photogaphers that do interact are unprofessional, perhaps see either the failures in their own shooting or that some models and photographers work differently and why a model may want to interact with a photographer rather than think it's a photographer getting their grubby fingers (or more) into a shoot, rather than sitting on a pedestal and pointing fingers.

[GroobySteven]

ok scumbag. it was nice talking to you.

Don't be a cockhead. The guy answered your questions clearly, you obviously have a different agenda.

[flabbybody]

I love watching the model being aroused by playing with the cameraman's cock, and a double cum shot is a big turn on for me. I admire the guy being able to keep filming during the whole thing.

[giovanni_hotel]

Yeah, I like it. I always assumed it was mutual anyway. Um, btw it's porn.
Is it really that much different than a camera man filming a tgirl and a male costar having sex???

[GroobySteven]

Is it really that much different than a camera man filming a tgirl and a male costar having sex???
I don't think that's the issue. The issue is when cameramen have insisted a girl along for a solo shoot get involved with him in order to get paid/allowed to do the shoot/do future shoots. It happens all time in all porn and there are even casting sites dedicated to it. A model hired for a solo shoot, should be there to do a solo shoot without being pressured into doing something she doesn't want to.
When a model is hired to do a hardcore scene, the details are usually worked out ahead of time. A solo scene can often flow a lot differently.

[Kevin Dong]

ok scumbag. it was nice talking to you.

no need to be rude and resort to name calling. It's evident that you're just jealous of Terry's boyish good looks. hahaha at you!

[ew86riv]

first of all, i don't care if anyone gets laid who's doing the shooting. if the camera guy and model want to have sex with each or fool around that's fine. my only issue was that he made it seem like sex was necessary for shooting. i don't shoot porn, but i don't feel like sex is necessary. that's something that's wanted to make the scene go better than it might otherwise. it sounds to me like he's trying to make shooting sound like something it's not.

i also want you guys to understand that over the computer stuff can be misinterpreted. if i have misinterpreted something i'm sorry, but i read what he wrote and it sounded stupid to me. i also take back calling him a scumbag. i don't like name calling.

[GroobySteven]

first of all, i don't care if anyone gets laid who's doing the shooting. if the camera guy and model want to have sex with each or fool around that's fine. my only issue was that he made it seem like sex was necessary for shooting. i don't shoot porn, but i don't feel like sex is necessary. that's something that's wanted to make the scene go better than it might otherwise. it sounds to me like he's trying to make shooting sound like something it's not.

i also want you guys to understand that over the computer stuff can be misinterpreted. if i have misinterpreted something i'm sorry, but i read what he wrote and it sounded stupid to me. i also take back calling him a scumbag. i don't like name calling.

I think you misread it - he was saying it wasn't necessary but they come around for sex anyway.

Thanks for the retraction - I'll take my cockhead back also!

[Remy757Photog]

Simply because they request it. I had all kinds of requests. French girls usually just ask me to shoot all naked, which i hate. The porn trick doesn't work, i have every kind just for that but they don't want it. The most common request i have when they have to cum is me kissing their nipple and/or suck me. A few just can't cum at all if i don't fuck them a few minutes and so far, those kind of girls always warned me about that right away.

I'm fluent in french and thai and my speech, sms, email prior every shoot is very clear and detailed about how the shoot will happen and what is needed to be done. I clearly say that nothing with me is needed at ay time and the first question i usually got is "but do you like TS?". I also insist that if they can't get hard or can't cum, it's not the end of the world and that they can come another day to finish shoot whenever they feel like it. I've had that and i didn't suggested anything about giving her some help. If they don't ask anything i won't say/do anything.

They always call me once a while, sms, chat, bring me their friends. They like how i work and even the few thoughest bar girls with bad reputations that i had, turned the sweetest girls ever when working with me. I treat them as people and they all feel comfortable shooting with me. That's why i can get almost any girls here and that i've never had a single problem with them unlike everyone else here who stick to bar girls and treat them like shit. And again, i'm fluent in thai so they know that if there is any problem, we can comunicate normally and they feel much more comfortable to work with someone who can understand them 100%.

Also, the way i treat them is one thing but the physical appearance matters too...It's not like i was old and fat.

Again, if the model request the interaction, knock yourself out buddy. I've never been to Thailand and have only seen the culture of white men and Thai girls through documentaries, so I don't doubt that they may be throwing themselves at white men.

Ultimately, it falls on the models to know the industry and what's required of them, if a model is willing to go above the call of duty for a scene that's her decision. I still feel my analogue of producer/model and teacher/student sums things up best, and that sexual interactions happening 'on camera' be compensated at the higher pay rate of a hardcore shoot, as it plainly isn't a solo scene anymore. Otherwise, the logic could go that a producer can film all their 'hardcore' scenes POV and just pay the solo rate which would be very unfair and exploitative toward the models.

[GroobySteven]

Again, if the model request the interaction, knock yourself out buddy. I've never been to Thailand and have only seen the culture of white men and Thai girls through documentaries, so I don't doubt that they may be throwing themselves at white men.

Ultimately, it falls on the models to know the industry and what's required of them, if a model is willing to go above the call of duty for a scene that's her decision. I still feel my analogue of producer/model and teacher/student sums things up best, and that sexual interactions happening 'on camera' be compensated at the higher pay rate of a hardcore shoot, as it plainly isn't a solo scene anymore. Otherwise, the logic could go that a producer can film all their 'hardcore' scenes POV and just pay the solo rate which would be very unfair and exploitative toward the models.

I don't think it's got anything to do with thai girls and white men. I know producers who travel the world (and used to be one myself) and the instances when a model would ask a photographer to interact or to strip outweighed those when it didn't. I'd also say that most of the models are far more experienced and wily when it comes to the opposite sex than most producers are. I don't think you're in a qualified postion to have the same experience.
It's rarely an actual hardcore scene. We've shot POV for POV releases and that's clearly a different price but when something happens in a scene it's best to be captured for that scene, the same as when you are shooting if a model is able to do something new or interesting or just show something which turns her on (gaping, big toys, pee, self-fuck, her third nipple, some fetish or cosplay costumes she brought) then we don't expect there to be extra charges for that. It's about showing the models how they like to be seen - and what makes them comfortable.

[TempestTS]

Girl asks Photographer - Fair Game
Photographer asks Girl - Fair Game

Photographer requires girl to have sex to get the scene - or Girl refuses to do scene unless photographer has sex with her --- Bad Form, Shame on Either of them.

Everybody working in the adult industry should practice safe sex habits and regular testing guidelines or they are a fool.

Simple as that.

[Remy757Photog]

I don't think it's got anything to do with thai girls and white men. I know producers who travel the world (and used to be one myself) and the instances when a model would ask a photographer to interact or to strip outweighed those when it didn't. I'd also say that most of the models are far more experienced and wily when it comes to the opposite sex than most producers are. I don't think you're in a qualified postion to have the same experience.
It's rarely an actual hardcore scene. We've shot POV for POV releases and that's clearly a different price but when something happens in a scene it's best to be captured for that scene, the same as when you are shooting if a model is able to do something new or interesting or just show something which turns her on (gaping, big toys, pee, self-fuck, her third nipple, some fetish or cosplay costumes she brought) then we don't expect there to be extra charges for that. It's about showing the models how they like to be seen - and what makes them comfortable.


I only made the Thai and white men reference as that is where the conversation went. Either you or Terry mentioned being European and young in Thailand, so that's where my statement came from, it wasn't meant in a disrespectful way though, I prefer my men Caucasian, Asian, or Latino.

[GroobySteven]

I only made the Thai and white men reference as that is where the conversation went. Either you or Terry mentioned being European and young in Thailand, so that's where my statement came from, it wasn't meant in a disrespectful way though, I prefer my men Caucasian, Asian, or Latino.

You love the Brits - I know your game.

[Remy757Photog]

You love the Brits - I know your game.

Indeed I do, everything about the culture leaves me enrapt!