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buckjohnson
09-01-2012, 08:45 PM
Both are a person or persons being paid to have sex. So many folks on this site look down on escorts, but lustily approve of the professional porn stars. What is the difference? And can professional porn stars be labeled as pros or escorts?

rodinuk
09-01-2012, 08:49 PM
Escorting is real life and pornography is the portrayal of a fantasy.

Dino Velvet
09-01-2012, 08:57 PM
Escorts take the edge off so you don't take someone's head off.

Stavros
09-01-2012, 10:42 PM
In porn a girl can get paid, say $3,000 to have sex with hot guys; as an escort she can charge $300 to have sex with a man who is older than her dad and probably not as attractive. And then people wonder why some girls have bad attitude! Or as they say in the US, you could just 'do the math'.

blkmamba
09-01-2012, 10:51 PM
:iagree::iagree:
In porn a girl can get paid, say $3,000 to have sex with hot guys; as an escort she can charge $300 to have sex with a man who is older than her dad and probably not as attractive. And then people wonder why some girls have bad attitude! Or as they say in the US, you could just 'do the math'.

:iagree:

Dino Velvet
09-01-2012, 10:56 PM
In porn a girl can get paid, say $3,000 to have sex with hot guys; as an escort she can charge $300 to have sex with a man who is older than her dad and probably not as attractive. And then people wonder why some girls have bad attitude! Or as they say in the US, you could just 'do the math'.

Agreed. I'm old enough to be their dad but at least grampa isn't comin' round again.

http://deathensemble.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Grandpas-hungry.jpg

amberskyi
09-01-2012, 11:05 PM
In porn a girl can get paid, say $3,000 to have sex with hot guys; as an escort she can charge $300 to have sex with a man who is older than her dad and probably not as attractive. And then people wonder why some girls have bad attitude! Or as they say in the US, you could just 'do the math'.

Oh...you think a girl gets paid 3,000? Lmaooo... #industryoutsiders

Ecstatic
09-01-2012, 11:34 PM
$3000? As amberskyi says, #industryoutsiders! While a single film may pay OK, how many scenes can a girl shoot in a week? Whereas a successful escort can service multiple clients per day, which can add up significantly. Money-wise, escorting can be far more profitable. But consider the risks: health risks are present in both, but far risker in escorting, not to mention possible violence or theft. I've known far too many escorts who have been beaten or robbed, which doesn't occur with professional studios.

But the biggest difference is all in what a person feels OK doing. I've known lots of escorts who would never do porn, and lots of porn actors who would never escort, and those who do both. It's a choice depending on the risks and rewards and what one feels OK doing.

buckjohnson
09-01-2012, 11:47 PM
I dont understand. Please explain.
Oh...you think a girl gets paid 3,000? Lmaooo... #industryoutsiders

TempestTS
09-02-2012, 12:14 AM
Main difference between an Escort and Porn - Who's hand is it on your dick... LMAO...

and Seriously $3000 ??? Thanks for buying into the whole "all porn stars are super rich" urban myth but its simply not true.

LibertyHarkness
09-02-2012, 12:16 AM
average rate for a scene is 800dollars for a hardcore and 500 dollars for a solo ... very few companies will pay more than that .. .occassionaly the odd DVD, or studio may offer more ..

the days of people commanding over 1k a scene are long gone for the majority of models ..

bear in mind an average webcammer that works reguarlar 4 or 5 days a week for a few hours , will make about 1000-1500 in dollars a week ..if they are any good at it and have routine ...

compare to that escorting .. say girl is making 2 clients a day , 5 days a week , say its 300dollars a punt, so 600bucks a day, combine that with say some webcam as well .. .it blows porn shoots out of the water .. and as has been mentioned there isnt the volume of shoots for models basically ...

hence so many models are escorts/webcammers as well , they all compliement each other be it straight females or ts models ...

back to Bucks original point ,, i dont see any difference between a porn shoot or escort job .. its getting paid to get laid .. sex is sex , ,onyl difference is one is sex for an audience the other is for one person ..

no problem with either ..

joannajet
09-02-2012, 12:36 AM
Hi,

There is a huge difference between escorting and porn work.

In the former, the girl does not get to choose who she fucks and is expected to meet the client's demands.
In the latter, the girl chooses both who she fucks and the boundaries she is comfortable with before committing to doing the job (and she can back out if what is said and what actually happens are not the same thing).

Joanna

amberskyi
09-02-2012, 01:06 AM
Lol...I didn't have a choice in any of the guys I performed with.the only time a girl may have a choice is if the producer has multiple male models or brings her own guys.bigger companies/studios may have a selection but that isn't always the case.
The guys never have any say in the girls they get to work with.my best friends is a producer for grooby and she just laughs if a guy has a list or is picky.

Willie Escalade
09-02-2012, 01:22 AM
$3000? For one shoot? Nope.

And Joanna, I agree. However, some escorts DO pick and choose who they will and will not see. Lots of threads on THAT one...

Jamie French
09-02-2012, 01:22 AM
I love ya doll, but that is just flat out wrong. I've never done business with anyone who I did not personally approve of. I've sent dudes packing before they ever stepped inside my house and I've turned right around in hotel lobbies at first sight. Why wouldn't I be able to? I also have a nice little set of 'dos and donts' that a customer must agree to or else they don't get past the email stage let alone get my number or address.

Anytime I've been on set I just spread my cheeks for whoever I'm paired up with for the scene, no fuss no muss - I don't make waves during a production and I take whatever they decide to pay me with a smile and a hand shake.


Hi,

There is a huge difference between escorting and porn work.

In the former, the girl does not get to choose who she fucks and is expected to meet the client's demands.
In the latter, the girl chooses both who she fucks and the boundaries she is comfortable with before committing to doing the job (and she can back out if what is said and what actually happens are not the same thing).

Joanna

buckjohnson
09-02-2012, 01:42 AM
My point is not so much about the money earnef or the choice of partners. The randomness and horror stories about both porn and escorting, as well as the personal and healt issues both have = each other out. My point is most folks on this site put down escorts and have no respect for them, while porn stars are treated differently, and to me for no valid reasons. I also undetstand that some woman have many streams of income that include stripping, escorting, cam work, websites, etc. My point is the different treament. My view is esorting is ..well I save that as no one is interested in my views, rightly so.

Jamie French
09-02-2012, 01:58 AM
Does it really matter how anyone on this board is treated? The reason why everyone is answering the way they are is because we are talking about the points of the two income streams that actually matter to us in the real world... who cares about 'porn forum clout'? That's not even a real thing and it's kind of odd of you thinking that it is... performers and escorts alike never even consider the idea. This is just a place of business with no real bearing on our day to day lives outside of posting ads and killing time.



My point is not so much about the money earnef or the choice of partners. The randomness and horror stories about both porn and escorting, as well as the personal and healt issues both have = each other out. My point is most folks on this site put down escorts and have no respect for them, while porn stars are treated differently, and to me for no valid reasons. I also undetstand that some woman have many streams of income that include stripping, escorting, cam work, websites, etc. My point is the different treament. My view is esorting is ..well I save that as no one is interested in my views, rightly so.

buckjohnson
09-02-2012, 02:04 AM
True. I guess I am naive and a out of the loop about the purpose. Perhaps I was being overly sensitive.
Does it really matter how anyone on this board is treated? The reason why everyone is answering the way they are is because we are talking about the points of the two income streams that actually matter to us in the real world... who cares about 'porn forum clout'? That's not even a real thing and it's kind of odd of you thinking that it is... performers and escorts alike never even consider the idea. This is just a place of business with no real bearing on our day to day lives outside of posting ads and killing time.

tsadriana
09-02-2012, 03:26 AM
pornography is easy to do because u filmed several scenes,being an escort is hard 10 times more then siting in front of a camera because u can make a 20 mins movieand u have break and stops.escort is the real thing,and being an escort u have to get it right first time...i dont care what pornstars will say,is a fact girls .

tsadriana
09-02-2012, 03:28 AM
Makeng a porn movie is just like being on front of webcam in chatroom being seen by the whole site....so no sweat there in case ur faint hearted.

Jamie French
09-02-2012, 03:39 AM
I do both. Regularly. It's my full time job. Porn is a LOT more work. You have to look and perform your best no matter how many takes you do, how often you start and stop you have to be ON or you set an entire crew back. A scene can easily eat up a day depending on how smoothly the production company is running on any particular day. The heat from the lights is enough to make a lot of people give up after only a few shoots. Plus the egos, travel, waiting, makeup retouching, lack of lunch/dinner breaks, bad attitudes, equipment failure. The list goes on and on and if you work the back end like I do there is a whole other world of variables that can completely fuck up your day if any one thing goes belly up.

Escorting on the other hand requires you to post an ad. Wait for a phone call. Suck an overly excited dick for twenty minutes and then collect 200 dollars. All from the comfort and privacy of your own home, on your own time.

No contest.


Makeng a porn movie is just like being on front of webcam in chatroom being seen by the whole site....so no sweat there in case ur faint hearted.

Ryz
09-02-2012, 04:02 AM
Oh...you think a girl gets paid 3,000? Lmaooo... #industryoutsiders

Hashtags? Really....

SunshyneMonroe
09-02-2012, 06:40 AM
Oh...you think a girl gets paid 3,000? Lmaooo... #industryoutsiders

You girls get paid what you say yes too lol

SunshyneMonroe
09-02-2012, 06:43 AM
Sex work is sex work the end..

danthepoetman
09-02-2012, 07:17 AM
That’s the way I would view it: sex is sex and it’s no big deal. If anyone is contemptuous towards a girl because she’s escorting, he’s a moron living on another planet. That’s as simple as that in my book. Of course, I know nothing about how it is to do one or the other, I mean escorting or making porn. But in the end it’s just sex: there’s no reason to have any moral attitude towards it, no reason to be shocked either way.

Stavros
09-02-2012, 11:37 AM
I admit I was being cynical in my post, and that there are various ways that girls can make money other than from porn or in addition to it. I have known cam performers whose monthly income surprised me -being far in excess of what I expected. Seven or so years ago I was told by a reasonably well-known porn performer (at that time) that she got $3,000 for a combined photo-shoot and video -but maybe that was for more than one session so I can't otherwise comment, but Liberty's figure of 800 seems small to me, unless that is the market rate today.

LibertyHarkness
09-02-2012, 11:57 AM
stavros the figure is correct ..i am shoot models for various companies usa/uk ... as i said that is the general average ...

now some peeps get more here and there etc , or if a model is really really in demand then there is leverage ..it also depends on the run of shoots you get get ....

so lets say you get 4 scenes over 2days , you will earn some nice money ....

onmyknees
09-02-2012, 04:32 PM
It would seem to me both are a means to an end, but isn't it about who's in control? One takes place under a controled enviornment and set of circumstances, and one is totally random.

Dino Velvet
09-02-2012, 05:50 PM
I have known cam performers whose monthly income surprised me -being far in excess of what I expected.

I've heard cam shows bring good money too. They're in control of their surroundings not having to deal with a client or another performer. The safety and security is a real plus. I always worry about the girls I visit.

GroobySteven
09-02-2012, 06:53 PM
I admit I was being cynical in my post, and that there are various ways that girls can make money other than from porn or in addition to it. I have known cam performers whose monthly income surprised me -being far in excess of what I expected. Seven or so years ago I was told by a reasonably well-known porn performer (at that time) that she got $3,000 for a combined photo-shoot and video -but maybe that was for more than one session so I can't otherwise comment, but Liberty's figure of 800 seems small to me, unless that is the market rate today.

Those figures are right. I've heard models say they've been paid huge sums to other producers but it's all just posturing in order to try and raise the rate or put themselves above other girls.

buckjohnson
09-02-2012, 07:40 PM
Sanctify QUOTE=SunshyneMonroe;1192639]Sex work is sex work the end..[/QUOTE]

south ov da border
09-02-2012, 07:58 PM
pornography is easy to do because u filmed several scenes,being an escort is hard 10 times more then siting in front of a camera because u can make a 20 mins movieand u have break and stops.escort is the real thing,and being an escort u have to get it right first time...i dont care what pornstars will say,is a fact girls .

:iagree:
makes complete sense. I can't say it's easy, but the theory makes sense...