Is It Racist To Call A White Guy A Serial Killer?

[Dino Velvet]

Just wondering if I'm being too sensitive.

[onmyknees]

Well you know the profile Dino. Serial killers are generally white, aged 30, fairly well educated, come from single parent homes.....so no it would not be racist !

[Cecil Rhodes]

It depends . It is if you are trying to say most Serial Killers are White . That is incorrect Most are not White, especially in the USA . Whites are only a marjority in places that are almost completely White and pretty much isolated . That would for the most part be Australia and New Zealand . NZ has not had many, so it is a moot point . Australia for it's population and geographic size has had quite a few . That was in the recent past though . Australia's population is becoming more diverse aswell as their crime rates . This includes Serial Killing .

Whites do hold one thing above the other Races when it comes to Serial Killing . Whites usually take longer to catch . That doesn't say all of them are smart because there have been quite a few dumb ones .

So to answer your question:

If you are saying it in respect to the LibTard Steriotype or Spin of Whites then yes it is Racist .

If you are saying it for other reasons you are simply misinformed and should study the subject more if you are interested .

[Cecil Rhodes]

Well you know the profile Dino. Serial killers are generally white, aged 30, fairly well educated, come from single parent homes.....so no it would not be racist !

InCorrect ....... That is a Steriotype

[Dino Velvet]

I'd be the ignorant one if I didn't admit the accuracy but based on race it's still racist. At least it's not ignorant. If I hear of a serial killer running around I pretty much know he's one of mine(with very few exceptions).

[Helvis2012]

:banana:I'd say no but if things keep going the way they are it could wind up becoming another go-to stereotype.

[onmyknees]

InCorrect ....... That is a Steriotype



Well you're not totally right, but you're not totally wrong either. Other than John Mohammed the more infamous ones are white. Not all serial killers are white,not by a long shot but there are more white serial killers simply because there are more white males. I'm speaking about the US. To say there are more non white serial killers in relation to their population numbers would be correct. But it gets kinda convoluted.....some define a serial killer as 2 or more killings , others say it's not a serial killing if someone shoots 2 people in a drug deal gone bad.
Not sure it matters....they all should fry.

[Quiet Reflections]

No, because most serial killers and mass murders are white men. All of them aren't but considering in the US White people make up the majority of the population It stands to reason that at least 51% are white.That being said I would love to see a source saying otherwise if someone has it. I would be willing to bet that info never surfaces

[hippifried]

So Dino... You thinking of getting into the serial killer game?

[Dino Velvet]

So Dino... You thinking of getting into the serial killer game?

Dipped my toes in it to qualify awhile back but it wasn't for me despite my racial inclinations.

[danthepoetman]

Is It Racist To Call A White Guy A Serial Killer?
Just wondering if I'm being too sensitive. (Dino)

I’m not sure of what you’re asking, Dino. “Is it racist to call a white guy a racist because he’s white?”: is that what you’re asking? I’m not sure why anyone would do that for no other reason…
“Is it racist to consider all serial killers to be white?” I wouldn’t know that to be racist, but it contradicts the facts. Besides, being a serial killer is a mental sickness, it’s sociopathic; I couldn’t possibly see how it could relate in any way to the skin pigment in itself. Sheer numbers here seems irrelevant to me.
Am I in the surrounding of your question, or am I out in the field in my understanding of it?

[Dino Velvet]

It's not serious. Just having a little fun at my color's expense.

Here's a character that terrorized my city pretty good in the 1980s. Many of us would like to crush his head with a rock. Cops saved his life when they arrested him. Got the Death Penalty but the state forgot about the death part but substituted matrimony instead. What bleeding hearts we are in California. Ahhhhhhhhh...

http://shop.history.com/img/product/cat07/00068014-972340.jpghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljuyx4UKeY1qe50yto1_400.jpg

[danthepoetman]

The guy’s face rings a bell, but I can’t remember his name.
I think the worst was the first recorded one, H. H. Holmes, who constructed or adapted a whole hotel to be able to murder people and hide the bodies, at the end of the 1800s. They think he committed more than a 100 murders…

[Dino Velvet]

The guy’s face rings a bell, but I can’t remember his name.
I think the worst was the first recorded one, H. H. Holmes, who constructed or adapted a whole hotel to be able to murder people and hide the bodies, at the end of the 1800s. They think he committed more than a 100 murders…

I've seen and read things on HH Holmes. 100 is a massive number. Ramirez didn't kill that many but he was an awful sadist who enjoyed the suffering and torment of others. He's lucky he's on the wrong side of the bars. Freedom would be his Death Sentence. Many of us still remember and will never forgive nor forget. This city would devour him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Holmes
Richard Ramirez - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Ramirez)

[danthepoetman]

No one is taking care of him inside because he’s still on death row. I see what you mean, now. Just read on Wikipedia that the sentence was upheld in 2006, but as you alluded to, that he married a journalist inside; is that woman crazy or what?
Has California completely relinquish executions?

[Dino Velvet]

No one is taking care of him inside because he’s still on death row. I see what you mean, now. Just read on Wikipedia that the sentence was upheld in 2006, but as you alluded to, that he married a journalist inside; is that woman crazy or what?
Has California completely relinquish executions?

I'm now for abolishing the Death Penalty and letting people like Scott Peterson walk around in GenPop. Ramirez too.

[giovanni_hotel]

I believe California is the serial killer capital of the U.S. Look up 'Murder Mack'.
Statistically there may not be as many, but as was shown in a recent cased that was cracked in L.A., if you're a Black serial killer in the hood who kills primarily other Black folk, the PD are less likely to connect the dots or expend the effort to recognize that random deaths are linked to one killer.
I don't know what Tatiana is talking about, but she's hot so I won't bother.;)

I sometimes wonder if there's something unique to American culture and freedom that conversely breeds serial killers.

Yes there are serial killers in other parts of the world, but I don't think any country touches us with the sheer number of Ted Bundys and John Wayne Gacys.

There's a current serial killer in NYC who dumped his victims in LI and he still hasn't been caught.


One of the scariest quotes I've ever read, by Ted Bundy to a detective in the Green River Case;

“You’re like a fisherman who fishes for years and catches a small fish…sometimes a medium fish. [You] get lucky and get a big fish. But you know there’s a real big fish under there that always gets away. You and your group are going to get a lot of serial killers and they’re going to help you. But with the real good ones, the only way you’re going to know what goes on under the water is to go under the water. The fisherman drowns going underwater. But I can take you there without drowning. If I trust you. And if I decide.”

[danthepoetman]

Yeah, social conditions probably play a big role when it comes to the capture of serial killers. The case of Russian serial Andrei Chikatilo is also telling: under communist regime, the authorities didn’t want to hear about serial killers; these things only happened in decadent bourgeois countries. But police forces did know that a crazy maniac was on the loose. They just couldn’t do anything about it. They made a good movie with that story, “Citizen X” with Stephen Rae and Donald Sutherland. Poverty is certainly another factor.
I wander what the relation is between poverty and the incidence of serial killing; I suspect that poverty “produces” more violence but fewer serials than say, the middle class –but that’s just a hunch. In other words, I wander if poverty is not too rough to produce people who kill just for the pleasure of it.
As to the particular mix you’re talking about in the US, I don’t know. Maybe. Lots of freedom and a definite fascination for violence, at least in Hollywood cinema (not as much in New York's, but there’s still directors like Scorsese).

[natina]

about white violence because of the coping factor

http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html


Has Black Friday arrived in America? If so, are you prepared?



Actually, if you're a "white" American, there's a good chance that you're less prepared than other Americans. Emotionally that, is. And mentally. Maybe even physically.



As is so often the case, Tim Wise has explained well this common symptom of learning to be white:



Racism and white privilege/supremacy generates a mindset of entitlement among those in the dominant group. This entitlement mentality can prove dangerous, whenever the expectations of a member of the group are frustrated. Principally this is because such persons develop very weak coping skills as a result of never having to overcome the obstacles that oppressed folks deal with every day and MUST conquer in order to survive.


Not knowing how the world works is dangerous. White privilege and racism allow the dominant group to live in a bubble of unreality. Most days that’s no big deal I suppose. But every now and then reality intrudes on you and if you haven’t been expecting it, the trauma is magnified. So, when 9/11 happened, millions of whites were running around saying “why do they hate us?” because whites have never had to see our nation the way others do–we’ve been able to live in la-la land.



But folks of color didn’t say this, because those without privilege HAVE to know what others think about them. Not to do so is to be in perpetual danger. So whites flipped out, and by virtue of being unprepared, pushed for a policy response (war) that folks of color were HIGHLY skeptical of from the beginning. But whites, enthralled by our sense of righteousness (itself a manifestation of privilege), pushed forward, convinced that the war in Iraq would go swimmingly. How’s that working out?

In other words, racism and privilege generate mentalities and policies that are dysfunctional, even deadly for whites as with folks of color. Folks of color are the first victims, to be sure, and the worst. But as someone else said, what goes around. . .

Privilege creates a false sense of security. Being the dominant group can set you up for a fall, can prevent you from building up the coping skills needed to deal with setback, because so often those skills are ones you just don't need.

Until you do, that is.





[This quotation is adapted from two sources: a comment Tim Wise wrote at Resist Racism, and one of his books, White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son. Lyrics for Steely Dan's song "Black Friday"]



Is It Racist To Call A White Guy A Serial Killer?
Just wondering if I'm being too sensitive. (Dino)

I’m not sure of what you’re asking, Dino. “Is it racist to call a white guy a racist because he’s white?”: is that what you’re asking? I’m not sure why anyone would do that for no other reason…
“Is it racist to consider all serial killers to be white?” I wouldn’t know that to be racist, but it contradicts the facts. Besides, being a serial killer is a mental sickness, it’s sociopathic; I couldn’t possibly see how it could relate in any way to the skin pigment in itself. Sheer numbers here seems irrelevant to me.
Am I in the surrounding of your question, or am I out in the field in my understanding of it?

[danthepoetman]

I think there is very good points in your quotations, Natina. More privilege must assuredly create more expectations; I can’t see how this wouldn’t be true. It could indeed give some hints as to the idea that more serial killers could come from more comfortable backgrounds.

[Cecil Rhodes]

No, because most serial killers and mass murders are white men. All of them aren't but considering in the US White people make up the majority of the population It stands to reason that at least 51% are white.That being said I would love to see a source saying otherwise if someone has it. I would be willing to bet that info never surfaces

A Moron Speaks . Just look it up . But then again I know nothing of the subject myself since it is not even mentioned once in my field of study while in college . .... Wait, i am wrong, it was . To think of the 2 months i spent uncover as a security officer at an outlet mall on I-96 in the fall/winter of 1990 trying to catch one . I even had to travel a couple of times to as far as Cape Canaveral as bait .

Well you were right, because the killer was caught . He was a man and was executed . His name was Eileen Wuornos .

[Cecil Rhodes]

[QUOTE=giovanni_hotel;1188049]I believe California is the serial killer capital of the U.S. Look up 'Murder Mack'.
Statistically there may not be as many, but as was shown in a recent cased that was cracked in L.A., if you're a Black serial killer in the hood who kills primarily other Black folk, the PD are less likely to connect the dots or expend the effort to recognize that random deaths are linked to one killer.
I don't know what Tatiana is talking about, but she's hot so I won't bother.;)

I sometimes wonder if there's something unique to American culture and freedom that conversely breeds serial killers.

Yes there are serial killers in other parts of the world, but I don't think any country touches us with the sheer number of Ted Bundys and John Wayne Gacys.

There's a current serial killer in NYC who dumped his victims in LI and he still hasn't been caught.

Yes they do & much worse Bundy & Gacy . Currently the largest group of serial killers are operating in Mexico and along the US/Mexican Border . They have crossed into the US and flee back .

[Cecil Rhodes]

Well you're not totally right, but you're not totally wrong either. Other than John Mohammed the more infamous ones are white. Not all serial killers are white,not by a long shot but there are more white serial killers simply because there are more white males. I'm speaking about the US. To say there are more non white serial killers in relation to their population numbers would be correct. But it gets kinda convoluted.....some define a serial killer as 2 or more killings , others say it's not a serial killing if someone shoots 2 people in a drug deal gone bad.
Not sure it matters....they all should fry.

No, a serial killer is 2 . Most Gangbangera in the US that have killed 2 people have killed 3 . Even at these low numbers they way outnumber Whites as Seriel Killers . You are correct that White Seriel Killers get most of the press .

The Atlanta Ripper of 100 years ago was never caught, nor was the Atlanta Child Killer . Both were black .

One of the best known Black Seriel Killers is not even known by most as being one . Ever heard of Idi Amin ? Saddam Hussien's sons were serial killers .

[Cecil Rhodes]

The guy’s face rings a bell, but I can’t remember his name.
I think the worst was the first recorded one, H. H. Holmes, who constructed or adapted a whole hotel to be able to murder people and hide the bodies, at the end of the 1800s. They think he committed more than a 100 murders…

He didn't have that many . He used his hotel during the Chicago World's Fair to lure his victims .

Elizebeth Bathory & Vlad The Impaler racked up way more . Several of the Caesars were Mega Serial Killers .

[Cecil Rhodes]

I'd be the ignorant one if I didn't admit the accuracy but based on race it's still racist. At least it's not ignorant. If I hear of a serial killer running around I pretty much know he's one of mine(with very few exceptions).

That he is Gay or a Vampire ? .....lol.... Funny know one has brought serial killers being gay or having problems coming to terms with it . That is usually towards the top of the list for serial killers . Vampires ...... are the largest group of serial killers .

[Jericho]

Dipped my toes in it to qualify awhile back but it wasn't for me despite my racial inclinations.


Stop being such a pussy...Yer've got rampaging to be getting on with! :ignore:

[Jericho]

One of the best known Black Seriel Killers is not even known by most as being one . Ever heard of Idi Amin ?

I think that's a bit of a stretch of the definition.
If you're going down that road, you might as well lump in the president who authorized the nuking of two Japanese cities.

[trish]

You can call a serial killer anything your heart desires as far as I'm concerned. The other day I played a game of Chess with an acquaintance. He was White and I was Black. It's only anecdotal evidence but I'm telling you his Knights were serial killers and mine were little kittens.

[Prospero]

You can call a serial killer anything your heart desires as far as I'm concerned. The other day I played a game of Chess with an acquaintance. He was White and I was Black. It's only anecdotal evidence but I'm telling you his Knights were serial killers and mine were little kittens.

awwww.... if you played Chess with me your pawns would triumph without anything heavier having to be bought into play.

[Dino Velvet]

You can call a serial killer anything your heart desires as far as I'm concerned. The other day I played a game of Chess with an acquaintance. He was White and I was Black. It's only anecdotal evidence but I'm telling you his Knights were serial killers and mine were little kittens.

Little sassy kittens full of sass.

[giovanni_hotel]

No, a serial killer is 2 . Most Gangbangera in the US that have killed 2 people have killed 3 . Even at these low numbers they way outnumber Whites as Seriel Killers . You are correct that White Seriel Killers get most of the press .

The Atlanta Ripper of 100 years ago was never caught, nor was the Atlanta Child Killer . Both were black .

One of the best known Black Seriel Killers is not even known by most as being one . Ever heard of Idi Amin ? Saddam Hussien's sons were serial killers .

Criminologists set distinctions between random killers, spree killers, mass murderers and serial killers.

Usually serial killers are acting out on a psycho sexual compulsion they have great difficulty in controlling, if at all.

A gangbanger who's killed two people isn't a serial killer. Stalin wasn't a serial killer either.

What motivates someone like Dahmer and Gacy is totally different than it is for a crip or blood.

For serial killers, there's a psychological urge or 'hunger' that is unfulfilled unless they assault/torture/murder someone.

[TSPornFan]

I would think calling a white man a sex offender to be racist because the stereotypical sex offender looks like this guy......

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/rigs49/oldman.jpg

[Dino Velvet]

I would think calling a white man a sex offender to be racist because the stereotypical sex offender looks like this guy......

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e39/rigs49/oldman.jpg

Not bad.

http://www.ovathletics.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/jerry-sandusky-interviewed-by-bob-costas-video.img_.jpg

[Quiet Reflections]

A Moron Speaks . Just look it up . But then again I know nothing of the subject myself since it is not even mentioned once in my field of study while in college . .... Wait, i am wrong, it was . To think of the 2 months i spent uncover as a security officer at an outlet mall on I-96 in the fall/winter of 1990 trying to catch one . I even had to travel a couple of times to as far as Cape Canaveral as bait .

Well you were right, because the killer was caught . He was a man and was executed . His name was Eileen Wuornos .
I would be more inclined to believe you if the facts all over the internet weren't in my favor. I simply have a difference of opinion yet you seem to want to argue, I have no intrest in that since your tactics seem to involve silly name calling. I simply don't believe anyone will produce something valid stating less that half of US serial killers are white. It just won't happen. And if you mean Aileen Wuornos in Florida, she was female.

[giovanni_hotel]

Yes they do & much worse Bundy & Gacy . Currently the largest group of serial killers are operating in Mexico and along the US/Mexican Border . They have crossed into the US and flee back .

Most law enforcement officials and criminologists don't classify the mass murders along the Mexican border as the work of serial killer(s), These are mostly drug related killing between rival drug cartels over territory. The horrific nature of these killings is done to intimidate, not for psychological gratification.

Killing more than one person isn't how the FBI defines 'serial killer'.

[Dino Velvet]

Killing more than one person isn't how the FBI defines 'serial killer'.

Killing of 3 or more with cool-off period.

[danthepoetman]

He didn't have that many . He used his hotel during the Chicago World's Fair to lure his victims .

Elizebeth Bathory & Vlad The Impaler racked up way more . Several of the Caesars were Mega Serial Killers .

They think H. H. Holmes might have killed up to a 200 persons, that’s at least what Wiki is reporting: “While he confessed to 27 murders, of which four were confirmed, his actual body count could be as high as 200. » (Wikipedia on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Holmes ).

Elizabeth Bathory is probably a good example, but certainly not Vlad Dracul the Impaler, who was fighting off the progress of the Ottoman empire to the East of Europe. His goal was to scare them off, the rest is legend amplified by Bram Stoker. Gilles de Rais would have been a much better example of a crazy maniac from the MA.

Besides, yes, we have to make the difference between crime related murders, mass murderers, political tyrant mass murderers, etc. etc. etc. Serial killers are twisted individuals who kill solely for their own, intimate, crazy pleasure.

[giovanni_hotel]

Killing of 3 or more with cool-off period.


Right, where murder is the inevitable outcome or goal of the killer, not a means to an end, like a botched robbery, a mob hitman or a coup d'etat in a banana republic.

When someone seeks out random people usually one at a time to torture and kill whose deaths only have a unique meaning and purpose to the murderer, that's more in line with the profile of a classic serial killer.

Cecil Rhodes IMO is lumping all multiple killers into the same barrel.
By his definition, a combat soldier would be a 'serial killer'.

BTW in all seriousness I don't believe you can make any profound 'racial' insights into White people based on the ethnic background of American serial killers, I think it's more a percentage population related statistic.

For instance, White men OWN trips to the Moon.
Doesn't mean they are the only ones capable of completing the journey, just that in the early days of the U.S. Mercury program it was a White Men's Only club.:smoking

[Marty Mcfly]

Not if he really is one.LOL

[danthepoetman]

Right, where murder is the inevitable outcome or goal of the killer, not a means to an end, like a botched robbery, a mob hitman or a coup d'etat in a banana republic.

When someone seeks out random people usually one at a time to torture and kill whose deaths only have a unique meaning and purpose to the murderer, that's more in line with the profile of a classic serial killer.

Cecil Rhodes IMO is lumping all multiple killers into the same barrel.
By his definition, a combat soldier would be a 'serial killer'.

BTW in all seriousness I don't believe you can make any profound 'racial' insights into White people based on the ethnic background of American serial killers, I think it's more a percentage population related statistic.

For instance, White men OWN trips to the Moon.
Doesn't mean they are the only ones capable of completing the journey, just that in the early days of the U.S. Mercury program it was a White Men's Only club.:smoking

No, indeed, Giovanni, you’re right: how can it have anything related to skin pigment?
But as Dino said himself, he was just joking, he was not serious.

[Dino Velvet]

How many characters like the Grim Sleeper operate under the radar? Are there really that many black serial killers? I have no idea.

Grim Sleeper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grim_Sleeper)

[danthepoetman]

As was said, sheer statistical numbers do not mean much in the matter, because there’s so much more elements that has to be considered. Economic background, circumstances of the crimes, the historical era: any such study would be very difficult to conduct. But there is indeed no reason to consider that skin pigment is relevant here. In terms of statistics, it seems that white forms the majority, but it is said not to be indicative of the reality for many reasons. Here’s the quotation from Wiki and the link:
"The racial demographics regarding serial killers are often subject to debate. Compared to the United States and South Africa, Australiahas a much lower incidence of known serial murders.[12] In the United States, the majority of reported and investigated serial killers are white males, from a lower-to-middle-class background, usually in their late twenties to early thirties.[6][13][14] However, there are African American, Asian, and Hispanic (of any race) serial killers as well, and, according to the FBI, based on percentages of the U.S. population, whites are not more likely than other races to be serial killers.[14] Criminal profiler Pat Brown says serial killers are usually reported as white because the media typically focuses on "All-American" white and pretty female victims who were the targets of white male offenders, that crimes among minority offenders in urban communities, where crime rates are higher, are under-investigated, and that minority serial killers likely exist at the same ratios as white serial killers for the population. She believes that the "serial killers are always white" myth might have become "truth" in some research fields due to the over-reporting of white serial killers in the media.[13]
Some authors state that African American serial killers are as prevalent, or more so, in proportion to the African American population. According to some sources, the percentage of serial killers who are African American is estimated to be between 13 and 22 percent.[15][16] Another study has shown that 16 percent of serial killers are African American, what author Maurice Godwin describes as a "sizeable portion".[17] Anthony Walsh writes, "While it is true that most serial killers are white males, white (Anglo) males are actually slightly underrepresented in the serial killer ranks in terms of their proportion of the general male population" and that "[w]hatever the true proportion of black serial killers in the United States is or has been, it is greater than the proportion of African Americans in the general population."[18] Other reports show about 80% of serial killers being identified as white, placing nonwhite serial killers as accounting for less than 20% of serial killers.[19] While it is not conclusively known if black Americans are statistically less or more likely to be serial killers, reasons for under or overreporting of black serial killers could be due to racial profiling, the same factor that could account for the popular perception or reporting of serial killers as uniformly white.[19] Popular racial stereotypes about the lower intelligence of African-Americans, and the stereotype of a serial killer as a white male with "bodies stacked up in the basement and strewn all over the countryside" may explain the media focus on serial killers that are white and the failure to adequately report on those that are black.[20]"
Serial killer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer)

[Dino Velvet]

As was said, sheer statistical numbers do not mean much in the matter, because there’s so much more elements that has to be considered. Economic background, circumstances of the crimes, the historical era: any such study would be very difficult to conduct. But there is indeed no reason to consider that skin pigment is relevant here. In terms of statistics, it seems that white forms the majority, but it is said not to be indicative of the reality for many reasons. Here’s the quotation from Wiki and the link:
"The racial demographics regarding serial killers are often subject to debate. Compared to the United States and South Africa, Australiahas a much lower incidence of known serial murders.[12] In the United States, the majority of reported and investigated serial killers are white males, from a lower-to-middle-class background, usually in their late twenties to early thirties.[6][13][14] However, there are African American, Asian, and Hispanic (of any race) serial killers as well, and, according to the FBI, based on percentages of the U.S. population, whites are not more likely than other races to be serial killers.[14] Criminal profiler Pat Brown says serial killers are usually reported as white because the media typically focuses on "All-American" white and pretty female victims who were the targets of white male offenders, that crimes among minority offenders in urban communities, where crime rates are higher, are under-investigated, and that minority serial killers likely exist at the same ratios as white serial killers for the population. She believes that the "serial killers are always white" myth might have become "truth" in some research fields due to the over-reporting of white serial killers in the media.[13]
Some authors state that African American serial killers are as prevalent, or more so, in proportion to the African American population. According to some sources, the percentage of serial killers who are African American is estimated to be between 13 and 22 percent.[15][16] Another study has shown that 16 percent of serial killers are African American, what author Maurice Godwin describes as a "sizeable portion".[17] Anthony Walsh writes, "While it is true that most serial killers are white males, white (Anglo) males are actually slightly underrepresented in the serial killer ranks in terms of their proportion of the general male population" and that "[w]hatever the true proportion of black serial killers in the United States is or has been, it is greater than the proportion of African Americans in the general population."[18] Other reports show about 80% of serial killers being identified as white, placing nonwhite serial killers as accounting for less than 20% of serial killers.[19] While it is not conclusively known if black Americans are statistically less or more likely to be serial killers, reasons for under or overreporting of black serial killers could be due to racial profiling, the same factor that could account for the popular perception or reporting of serial killers as uniformly white.[19] Popular racial stereotypes about the lower intelligence of African-Americans, and the stereotype of a serial killer as a white male with "bodies stacked up in the basement and strewn all over the countryside" may explain the media focus on serial killers that are white and the failure to adequately report on those that are black.[20]"
Serial killer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer)

Much of that is probably true especially when the media gets involved trying to prioritize and frame things for their own purposes as well.

[danthepoetman]

They’re selling papers and also, well, tv shows, movies, etc. We live in a very integrated culture, not only when it comes to media, but also to money interests. There’s a certain image of the serial killer that unfortunately sells… But it might not be the only one valid.

[giovanni_hotel]

No, indeed, Giovanni, you’re right: how can it have anything related to skin pigment?
But as Dino said himself, he was just joking, he was not serious.

I know, but the subject is perversely interesting, if only to understand the mindset of such a person.
The problem is when you're discussing serial killers you're talking about severely mentally disordered individuals. Maybe not on the level of schizophrenics, but still profoundly homicidally psychotic nonetheless.

I can't watch horror movies but I can't get enough non fictional accounts of human monsters, before I scare myself again!:hide-1:

[Dino Velvet]

I can't watch horror movies

Guess that cancels the movie marathon at my place. My film collection is really lopsided.

[giovanni_hotel]

Guess that cancels the movie marathon at my place. My film collection is really lopsided.


Yeah I have friends who find horror movies almost comical because of their 'fakenes'. But shit it sure looks real to me.:(

[danthepoetman]

I know, but the subject is perversely interesting, if only to understand the mindset of such a person.
The problem is when you're discussing serial killers you're talking about severely mentally disordered individuals. Maybe not on the level of schizophrenics, but still profoundly homicidally psychotic nonetheless.

I can't watch horror movies but I can't get enough non fictional accounts of human monsters, before I scare myself again!:hide-1:

I’m exactly the opposite. :) Horror movies I find fun. But shows about the real thing, I have my quota quite fast; I just can’t take anymore after an hour or so, precisely because I know it’s real… But it is fascinating, how some individuals can slip to such remorseless type of behaviour.
Yet, I’m wandering if there’s not something like that in all of us. In situations of war, we’ve seen people everywhere become butchers and start killing civilians almost for pleasure –late wars in the Balkans showed a lot of that… How come this kind of behaviour sometimes come out in regular life, regular society? Although I guess that, as you pointed out, serial killers are usually even worse than that, even more perverse.

[Dino Velvet]

Yeah I have friends who find horror movies almost comical because of their 'fakenes'. But shit it sure looks real to me.:(

"Campy" and "So good they're bad" are large sub-sections of my Horror and Action DVDs. Ever see the Hindu Freddy Krueger? Like Nightmare except 2 1/2 hours with plenty of song and dance numbers. Bollywood Horror should take a long walk off a short pier. Seen better stuff outta Pakistan.

[danthepoetman]

The worst they are the most fun they provide, very often. Italian zombie movies are feasts!

[Dino Velvet]

The worst they are the most fun they provide, very often. Italian zombie movies are feasts!

Italian Horror took off in the late 50s and 1960s with more Gothic Castle-type films by Antonio Margheriti and Mario Bava. Castle Of Blood, The Virgin of Nuremberg, Black Sunday, Black Sabbath, The Whip & The Body, and Kill Baby Kill are all worth seeing.

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[Boomerang Man]

To the OP..........yes you are being too sensitive. Don't be intimidated by political correctness. Too often it is incorrect & distorted. :)