The Dark Knight Rises

[GurlyCockLover]

is there anyone else dissappointed by the latest and last movie in the christopher nolan trilogy of batman????


i mean it was always an impossible task to live up to the dark knight esp with heath ledgers performance, but seriously how is the thrid film being rated high that its predcessor on the IMDb ratings

the dark Knight is belown 9 and the DKR is on 9.3

i mean the pase of the movie is way off, the clever ness of the is no way near par and quite frankly blane is all bluster and vanishes quite easily in my opinion

anyways, if you have seen it, what do you think????

[scroller]

Terrible. Biggest letdown as far as ratings that I've seen in a while. Reminds me very much of The Phantom Menace in how exceedingly little sense it makes, while simultaneously mangling the mythology.

[Genetic]

Personally I loved it and thought it was the best of the 3. Bane was exactly what he was intended to be, and I can't see how it makes little sense or mangles the mythology. To me, it made perfect sense and it fit right in with the mythology.

[holybulz33]

Think you mean Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicklaus is the golfer

[rockabilly]

Personally I loved it and thought it was the best of the 3. Bane was exactly what he was intended to be, and I can't see how it makes little sense or mangles the mythology. To me, it made perfect sense and it fit right in with the mythology.

As long as you overlook the whole comic book canon than yeah it doesn't mangle the mythology.

[hippifried]

Think you mean Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicklaus is the golfer
But golf is a joke in itself. Who knows? Nicklaus might do well.

As for the movie:
Haven't seen it. But if it needs spicing up, just invite the audience to show up in black Kevlar.

[GroobyKrissy]

As long as you overlook the whole comic book canon than yeah it doesn't mangle the mythology.

TOTALLY agree. I thought Bane was a terrible character in this rendition. You almost felt sorry for him. The CB Bane is nothing like that... just pure mean. I understand Nolan wanting to keep things 'real' but they should have juiced up Bane a bit more and made him more menacing. I kept on thinking the entire movie, 'Why doesn't someone just shoot him?'

[GroobyKrissy]

But golf is a joke in itself. Who knows? Nicklaus might do well.

As for the movie:
Haven't seen it. But if it needs spicing up, just invite the audience to show up in black Kevlar.

Poor taste, Bro.

[rockabilly]

Personally I loved it and thought it was the best of the 3. Bane was exactly what he was intended to be, and I can't see how it makes little sense or mangles the mythology. To me, it made perfect sense and it fit right in with the mythology.


TOTALLY agree. I thought Bane was a terrible character in this rendition. You almost felt sorry for him. The CB Bane is nothing like that... just pure mean. I understand Nolan wanting to keep things 'real' but they should have juiced up Bane a bit more and made him more menacing. I kept on thinking the entire movie, 'Why doesn't someone just shoot him?'

When keeping it real goes wrong lol.
Bane was just the wrong character to use , He works best in the comics and animated series.

[Quinn]

I saw it yesterday and was underwhelmed. IMO, it was the weakest of the trilogy by far (the previous two really were excellent). I think Bane was a terrible choice and poorly depicted. The voice couldn't have been more incongruent and ridiculous when compared against Bane's physical persona.

-Quinn

[BluegrassCat]

Still a good movie but the worst of the three. As you said the pacing is terrible. They tried to cram way too many sub-stories into it, each of them could be cool but they don't get the attention they deserve. Bane & Co. taking over Gotham and the multi-month descent into anarchy would be a cool movie on its own. Batman in the pit would be a cool movie on its own. Bruce Wayne is broke, there's a nuclear bomb, cop-Robin, Michael Caine is an old lady, Catwoman! just too much going on. And yes, Bane's voice was at times pretty ridiculous.

[GurlyCockLover]

Think you mean Jack Nicholson. Jack Nicklaus is the golfer

sorry yeah meant nicholson

[GurlyCockLover]

what i was dissappointed with the most was the lack of sharp thinking & cleverness from the movie makers the screenplay was so way off from TDK, i found it all to predictable, sitting there in florence and so on…

[Genetic]

As long as you overlook the whole comic book canon than yeah it doesn't mangle the mythology.
Yeah but this isn't the comic. Two Face didn't die the first time they fought, the Joker's skin is white in the comics not paint etc etc. None of the films have been true to the comic, it's all been creative license and this one is no different.

You mention the Animated series as well, but then that's it's own canon again which doesn't match the comics (Bane being an unintelligent brute), so it's not really fair to hold this to a standard when you're ok with the animated series changing things.


TOTALLY agree. I thought Bane was a terrible character in this rendition. You almost felt sorry for him. The CB Bane is nothing like that... just pure mean. I understand Nolan wanting to keep things 'real' but they should have juiced up Bane a bit more and made him more menacing. I kept on thinking the entire movie, 'Why doesn't someone just shoot him?'
The comic book version of Bane was a sympathetic character when he was first introduced because he's someone who has made the most of his bad situation and risen above it. He goes after Batman because it's a challenge, and he wants to see who is the best, so he is someone the reader can empathise with.

As for not just shooting him, well you can use that argument in all of the films, not just this one.

[Silcc69]

No Azrael=epic fail lol. I liked the movie but Bane was to fuckin small IMO. They tried to make him appear bigger but it just was a fail.

[SammiValentine]

i like it ! i cant stop making bat signs out of used thongs. good times!

[theone1982]

I really liked the movie, but I thought there were a couple of problems: 1.) Bane's voice just sounded a little odd. I don't mean he was hard to understand, his accent just didn't sound threatening. 2.) Bane was too small. He should have looked like a roided up juice head freak. For those of you who watch WWE, he should've looked like Ryback. 3.) I feel like the Catwoman character always makes Batman look like a pussy. She did in this movie when she stabbed Batman and he looked and sounded like he was going to cry. 4.) If this was Nolan's last film in the franchise, why set up the Robin character at the end? It seemed sort of tacked on and pointless, considering the franchise will most likely just be rebooted without Bale and Nolan. 5.) The "no auto-pilot" plot point seemed a little ridiculous. There was no ejector seat either? Other than these problems I feel like the movie was very good, and a fitting end to the trilogy.

[maxpower]

I feel like the Catwoman character always makes Batman look like a pussy. She did in this movie when she stabbed Batman and he looked and sounded like he was going to cry.


I don't remember Catwoman stabbing him. It was his business partner that stabbed him near the end.

[theone1982]

I don't remember Catwoman stabbing him. It was his business partner that stabbed him near the end.

You might be right, I can't remember if she actually stabbed him or not, but I know that she twisted the knife in him, because that's when he looks like he's going to cry, and wimpily says "Why?!"

[soulvett]

Well, considering where she stabbed him, she being Miranda Tate, I'd think anyone would do more than just wince at that kind of pain. I liked that Bruce Wayne cried out in pain when it hurt, hes only human, after all. He doesn't have any super powers, wasn't bitten by a spider or exposed to gamma radiation, he was a boy who ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time and saw his parents die. He trained hard in mind and body, sweat and blood to become a weapon of vengeance.

In the Comics as someone said Bane was a character to be empathized, he was very intelligent, very cunning and ruthless. Imo the only way he was able to beat Batman in a straight up fight was due to the fact that he released all of Arkham Asylum and waited for Batman to clean up the mess before making his move. There's a saying many geeks have, give Batman 24 hours to prepare to fight any DC villain and he's got them beat.

I was happy with this film, and yes there were plenty of holes and the pacing was off I think it had more to do with the time frame the film was given, 2hr 45min is very long by today's standards and I'm convinced a lot of footage was cut in order to keep it under the 3 hour mark. Either way, we'll see when the super blu ray edition hits the shelves.

Also, Bane's voice sounds funny because they had to redo the voicing after that promo trailer during Mission Impossible 4, too many people didn't understand a word he said, so I'm thinking they dubbed over what they needed to and skipped what they didn't, hence the uneven voice acting at times. Either way, Tom Hardy played an exceptional villain and deserves props for it.

My 2 cents :)

[theone1982]

Well, considering where she stabbed him, she being Miranda Tate, I'd think anyone would do more than just wince at that kind of pain. I liked that Bruce Wayne cried out in pain when it hurt, hes only human, after all. He doesn't have any super powers, wasn't bitten by a spider or exposed to gamma radiation, he was a boy who ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time and saw his parents die. He trained hard in mind and body, sweat and blood to become a weapon of vengeance.

In the Comics as someone said Bane was a character to be empathized, he was very intelligent, very cunning and ruthless. Imo the only way he was able to beat Batman in a straight up fight was due to the fact that he released all of Arkham Asylum and waited for Batman to clean up the mess before making his move. There's a saying many geeks have, give Batman 24 hours to prepare to fight any DC villain and he's got them beat.

I was happy with this film, and yes there were plenty of holes and the pacing was off I think it had more to do with the time frame the film was given, 2hr 45min is very long by today's standards and I'm convinced a lot of footage was cut in order to keep it under the 3 hour mark. Either way, we'll see when the super blu ray edition hits the shelves.

Also, Bane's voice sounds funny because they had to redo the voicing after that promo trailer during Mission Impossible 4, too many people didn't understand a word he said, so I'm thinking they dubbed over what they needed to and skipped what they didn't, hence the uneven voice acting at times. Either way, Tom Hardy played an exceptional villain and deserves props for it.

My 2 cents :)

I don't know, it just seems a little out of character for him to be that surprised and emotional when she betrayed him, but I guess your right that it did show he's only human. You're right about Bane only being able to beat Batman because he was exhausted from trying to round up all the criminals in the comics. I just thought they could have picked a more intimidating actor physically, but I did think he did a good job, and I did get used to the voice after awhile. I was wondering if it was dubbed in after the controversy over not being to understand him. I'm also looking forward to the Blu-ray release, I think you're right in that there seemed to be a lot of scenes that were cut out.

[rockabilly]

Miranda Tate was really Talia Al Ghul , the daughter of Liam Neeson's character.

And mother of Bruce Wayne's son Damian. (in the comics)

[Genetic]

4.) If this was Nolan's last film in the franchise, why set up the Robin character at the end? It seemed sort of tacked on and pointless, considering the franchise will most likely just be rebooted without Bale and Nolan.
Ah but he's not Robin from what I took from it, it was a joke (Nolan and Bale both refused to do any Batman film that would involve the Robin character). Blake is the new Batman as Bruce has retired from it, and Batman still being in action after his obvious death will make him even more of a fearsome figure.

[bob.chicken]

def worst out of trilogy

too long and banes voice was terrible


batman kept falling in love and his broken back is cured by a rope wtf

also all that wayne enterprise fight for control wasn't great

[steviedresses]

It is a bad movie. If you are not up on the comic book, it made little sense at all It was long, loud, and I could never understand what the hell Bain was saying. Yuck.

[HbgDon]

I went to a showing after work and it just didn't cut it for me. Out of the three Comic book movies this summer (Avengers, Amazing Spider-Man and The Dark Knight Rises), Rises comes in third. The voice over work for Bane was terrible and I still had trouble understanding him at certain times. I'll give it another shot on Blu-Ray, but this is definitely my least favorite out of the Batman trilogy.