Best Quality/Content for money site? [Archive] - HungAngels

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 02:32 PM

If you want the best quality Ts porn then check out my list. I ranked the companies from best to worst.

1. TS Seduction- The quality on this site is up to date with the best straight companies.

2. Fame Digital aka Devil's Film. The quality is top notch.

3. SMC aka Shemale Club, Bob's Tgirls, TS Girl Network, etc. Great quality site. They are always improving their quality.

4. Shemale Strokers. The quality is decent. They have improved.

5. Grooby. The quality has improved a little bit. They're still behind the pack in video quality and other areas such as scene settings. Grooby has more of an amateur porn appeal.

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 02:55 PM

Shemale Yum has a lot of stuff...just that site alone. Same goes for Bob.

As for independents, Krissy's site is outstanding!

Thanks for the mention Hon :)

GroobySteven

07-04-2012, 02:59 PM

5. Grooby. The quality has improved a little bit. They're still behind the pack in video quality and other areas such as scene settings. Grooby has more of an amateur porn appeal.

Shut the fuck up - a few months ago you were calling all those other companies and saying ours was the best, now you're complaining because you were a tit yesterday and called out on it, so you've decided to be an arse again.

Shemale.XXX, ShemaleJapan, Ladyboy.XXX, ShemalePornstar, FranksTgirlworld has nothing "amateur" about it. Shemale Yum showing 7 sets (plus matching videos) shows a more gonzo approach but there is nothing amateur about what we do.

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 03:06 PM

Shut the fuck up - a few months ago you were calling all those other companies and saying ours was the best, now you're complaining because you were a tit yesterday and called out on it, so you've decided to be an arse again.

Shemale.XXX, ShemaleJapan, Ladyboy.XXX, ShemalePornstar, FranksTgirlworld has nothing "amateur" about it. Shemale Yum showing 7 sets (plus matching videos) shows a more gonzo approach but there is nothing amateur about what we do.

I never said your video quality was the best. I've seen your videos and compared them to the top quality companies. Your video quality isn't bad. It's just not the best at this time.

Some people may also think your sites have an amateur appeal because they're quality isn't up to industry standards. In some videos I hear picture cameras and in some cases see other people who aren't in the scene. That's very old school.

I said your costumer service was the best. Grooby always respond in a timely manner and tries to resolve the problem.

GroobySteven

07-04-2012, 03:10 PM

I never said your video quality was the best. I've seen your videos and compared them to the top quality companies. Your video quality isn't bad. It's just not the best at this time.

I said your costumer service was the best. Grooby always respond in a timely manner and tries to resolve the problem.

So you'd rather buy a site that updates with one video a week and 5 sets like some of those above? We've tested the video, we've asked for feedback and overwhelmingly it's where people want it. We could increase quality but that would come with the larger files and then slower downloads. We listen to our members and when the majority of them are happy where we are now, we'll stick to it until we can reasonably expand.

I'd love to please very single person but it's impossible - and some people will never be pleased.

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 03:13 PM

So you'd rather buy a site that updates with one video a week and 5 sets like some of those above? We've tested the video, we've asked for feedback and overwhelmingly it's where people want it. We could increase quality but that would come with the larger files and then slower downloads. We listen to our members and when the majority of them are happy where we are now, we'll stick to it until we can reasonably expand.

I'd love to please very single person but it's impossible - and some people will never be pleased.

I buy porn from all of those companies including yours. ;)

That's great that your members are happy.

LibertyHarkness

07-04-2012, 03:23 PM

the thing with porn there is not a best website , no best DVD production company .. its variable on many factors based purely from the fans/viewer own choice..

if you like glam/gloss looking porn then some sites cater for that .. if you like volume of content others cater for that .. if you like story line scenes etc others do that and so on ....

All the big 3 companies Grooby, SMC and STrokers have been around a very long time and are still here so they are all doing something right .. but then each of their fanbases will be quite different as well ...unless its just a person seeking the lastest girl that one of hte sites has shot before the other ...

For me i think shemalestrokers is a massively underated website .. sure it look dated and old but it churns out a ton of content .

Personally i think when Brazzers/ Bang Bros/ NA/ Reality Kings actually fathom and work out a solid structure in producing TS content , you will see a big change and then franklin you will get the type of content/site that i think you personally want to see ..but then thats a big big iff when you look at the current climeate in porn production and the amount of producers stopping work, models bailing out and pirated content all over the place, the ROI probably isnt worth it for them to consider at this stage .. why rock the boat when they are making a mint anyway from their current content ... TS content is still a niche and tiny in scale to STraight porn regardless .. just look at webcamming ..

I.e look at streamate stance on TS as featured cammers , they wont do it , they dont like to feature TS in pornstars .. they make so much money from their gg stuff why bother changing it up if its not needed ... As Steven has pointed out .. his business doesnt really need to change to much other than keep churning out new content as often as possible .... the risk is to an established to comapny if they change it up to much they could epicfail and then go titsup as a business ...

This is good for new companies though as it means a startup company can try something new from the off go as they have nothing to lose :)

I have my favourite sites but none of them are TS Sites .. as i rarely look at TS porn as i find it quite dull to be honest ... my favourite site is Hegre-Art and Met-art . i much prefer looking at more erotic material than just meat n veg porn .. so until someone launches a Transsexual Artisitic site i tend to only bother looking at tranny sites to see shooting styles, what people are doing etc .. and if there is anything worth copying/absorbing into my own productions to improve my product .

Token Williams-Black

07-04-2012, 03:31 PM

Thanks for the mention Hon :)

You're welcome!

I just like how you have such a personal touch while running your site. It also helps the content is constantly hot!

LibertyHarkness

07-04-2012, 03:33 PM

i think token is right there with solo sites , the personal touch is nice with solo girls, and thats often what will keep a solo girl site in business :) as there is a bit of bonding in that sense :)

SammiValentine

07-04-2012, 03:45 PM

Personal touch / attempting to create "Original and different" content goes a long way. Obviously everything has been done before, but its the way you tell them.

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 03:49 PM

the thing with porn there is not a best website , no best DVD production company .. its variable on many factors based purely from the fans/viewer own choice..

if you like glam/gloss looking porn then some sites cater for that .. if you like volume of content others cater for that .. if you like story line scenes etc others do that and so on ....

All the big 3 companies Grooby, SMC and STrokers have been around a very long time and are still here so they are all doing something right .. but then each of their fanbases will be quite different as well ...unless its just a person seeking the lastest girl that one of hte sites has shot before the other ...

For me i think shemalestrokers is a massively underated website .. sure it look dated and old but it churns out a ton of content .

Personally i think when Brazzers/ Bang Bros/ NA/ Reality Kings actually fathom and work out a solid structure in producing TS content , you will see a big change and then franklin you will get the type of content/site that i think you personally want to see ..but then thats a big big iff when you look at the current climeate in porn production and the amount of producers stopping work, models bailing out and pirated content all over the place, the ROI probably isnt worth it for them to consider at this stage .. why rock the boat when they are making a mint anyway from their current content ... TS content is still a niche and tiny in scale to STraight porn regardless .. just look at webcamming ..

I.e look at streamate stance on TS as featured cammers , they wont do it , they dont like to feature TS in pornstars .. they make so much money from their gg stuff why bother changing it up if its not needed ... As Steven has pointed out .. his business doesnt really need to change to much other than keep churning out new content as often as possible .... the risk is to an established to comapny if they change it up to much they could epicfail and then go titsup as a business ...

This is good for new companies though as it means a startup company can try something new from the off go as they have nothing to lose

I have my favourite sites but none of them are TS Sites .. as i rarely look at TS porn as i find it quite dull to be honest ... my favourite site is Hegre-Art and Met-art . i much prefer looking at more erotic material than just meat n veg porn .. so until someone launches a Transsexual Artisitic site i tend to only bother looking at tranny sites to see shooting styles, what people are doing etc .. and if there is anything worth copying/absorbing into my own productions to improve my product .

I think you should add Fame Digital aka Devil's Films to the list. They've been making TS porn for over a decade and maybe longer than SMC.

Brazzers brought Reality Kings and some other networks this year. RK does have a TS site named Tranny Surprise. It originally shot English speaking girls but changed to Brazilian only.

As long as there is some storyline in my TS porn I'm happy. :banana:

I think Strokers is underrated because of their site looking outdated and they most update with solo videos. Shooting the same girls don't really help their image.

LibertyHarkness

07-04-2012, 03:54 PM

Devils are a DVD company mostly .. not a pure website based business like the other 3 . that do DVDS as an offshoot ..much like Evil Angel are the same as Devils . they are first most known for pushing out multiple TS DVD Titles that they then stick up on there sites, VOD stores .

Problem with the STraight networks Franklin is they dont quite understand how to package and promote hte content correctly ... For example if they was to contract out a few producers that currently shoot TS porn and let them run it ,, add a few more mini sites in the network and bash it out as a network ... hell maybe i should speak to Brazzers about doing a deal with them setting up a few sites under their network .. :) though i have 21st interested in working with me on a TS network ..

GroobySteven

07-04-2012, 03:58 PM

I think you should add Fame Digital aka Devil's Films to the list. They've been making TS porn for over a decade and maybe longer than SMC.

The Devil's Film site also gets you access to TrannyBox I think. They're both incredible value for money considering the quality and scope of DVD content you get from them but they are just video scenes, taken from their DVD releases and reworked here.
I think we have a special offer with TrannyBox and you can get Devil's Film from there - http://www.trannybox.com/en/?s=1

You wouldn't want to work for Brazzer's, Liberty.

MrsKellyPierce

07-04-2012, 04:03 PM

TSSEDUCTION!

Joey, Joey, Joey/evil angel

TransRomantic

Token Williams-Black

07-04-2012, 04:05 PM

Yeah...TS Seduction is pretty damn nice. And I'm more into the guys topping the gals.

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 04:08 PM

Clearly there is some debate about this issue and I think that Liberty has basically hit the main point, which is to say that 'BEST' is such a subjective term, and the taste that people have in their porn is so deeply personal that 'BEST' can be hard to quantify. I think anybody who owns and operates a site themselves figures out pretty quickly from feedback that you cannot please everyone.

Although I may have a perceived bias towards Grooby products, I think if you read my posts, you know that I am a thinker and don't offer opinions on subjects that I don't know much about.

I browse a fairly large volume of TS porn everyday for my job, for my personal blogs, and just because I like knowing Who's Who. I have a rotation of sites that I join monthly so I'm also a consumer and a supporter of the industry.

Personally, I think that Grooby Productions offers the best products on the market that cater to just about every consumer. I won't go into the hum-drum details of why but as far as regularity of updates go, debuting models, featuring brand name models, and giving the chance to models 'outside the box', I think Grooby sites offer a tremendous value to the consumer.

With the advent of Shemale.XXX and Ladyboy.XXX, I think the detractors saying 'amateur' have very little to base that point on; and while you may argue the technical aspects of resolutions and ratios, to the average consumer, I don't think that matters much. It is baseless to call something 'amateur' simply because a different style or higher quality is implemented elsewhere. 'Amateur', by definition, means that you're not getting paid, which is why I stopped using that descriptor for my site years ago.

Anyway, as all things I write tend to be, this is getting long winded. So good-bye.

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 04:08 PM

Yeah...TS Seduction is pretty damn nice. And I'm more into the guys topping the gals.

I read on the boards that Tomcat is trying to get Kimber James to get fucked on TS Seduction.

TSSEDUCTION!

Joey, Joey, Joey/evil angel

TransRomantic

Did you ever shot for TS Seduction last year?

With the advent of Shemale.XXX and Ladyboy.XXX, I think the detractors saying 'amateur' have very little to base that point on; and while you may argue the technical aspects of resolutions and ratios, to the average consumer, I don't think that matters much. It is baseless to call something 'amateur' simply because a different style or higher quality is implemented elsewhere. 'Amateur', by definition, means that you're not getting paid, which is why I stopped using that descriptor for my site years ago.

There is PLENTY to base the word amateur on Grooby products. Hearing and seeing camera lights during a scene is very amateurish. I've seen the cameraman in some cases in their clothing store set. There is a mirror and I can clearly see the cameraman. The sets are decent. The video quality is okay. Compare the video quality to other sites and you can see a big difference in color and lighting. Grooby has fine sites. However, the quality is not up to industry standards.

LibertyHarkness

07-04-2012, 04:11 PM

hey franklin i am shooting for Kink on my next trip to usa :)

MrsKellyPierce

07-04-2012, 04:26 PM

I read on the boards that Tomcat is trying to get Kimber James to get fucked on TS Seduction.

Did you ever shot for TS Seduction last year?

There is PLENTY to base the word amateur on Grooby products. Hearing and seeing camera lights during a scene is very amateurish. I've seen the cameraman in some cases in their clothing store set. There is a mirror and I can clearly see the cameraman. The sets are decent. The video quality is okay. Compare the video quality to other sites and you can see a big difference in color and lighting. Grooby has fine sites. However, the quality is not up to industry standards.No I did not :)

onmyknees

07-04-2012, 04:27 PM

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 04:38 PM

There is PLENTY to base the word amateur on Grooby products. Hearing and seeing camera lights during a scene is very amateurish. I've seen the cameraman in some cases in their clothing store set. There is a mirror and I can clearly see the cameraman. The sets are decent. The video quality is okay. Compare the video quality to other sites and you can see a big difference in color and lighting. Grooby has fine sites. However, the quality is not up to industry standards.

This is what I'm talking about...

You're speaking as a consumer on a personal basis with a personal opinion without giving thought to the other perspectives (i.e. - other consumers, producers, directors, models, etc.). You're making general statements about something you obviously don't understand or haven't thought through. [ADDED ON EDIT: Using this logic, I could pretty much say you're uneducated and unintelligent because you have an occasional spelling mistake or grammatical error in your typing. However, that would be an unfair assumption because I don't know you as a person... your credentials, habits, etc. etc. You act as an 'insider' to the world of porn... are you or are you simply an individual consumer?]

You're calling something 'amateur' which, for all you know, may have well been shot that way purposefully. 'Amateur' as it relates to video and photo work is a STYLE, not a descriptor. As I stated, you can argue the TECHNICAL points of resolutions and ratios, but that is a separate issue... which you're trying to mix into the style of shooting.

So, I know you were a judge for the most recent Tranny Awards and had access to a number of different sites, including mine. Therefore, you are well aware that I shoot content that is unique and 'amateur' given your view. However, I shoot with a $1,500 camera, a $1,000 camcorder, and fairly expensive lighting at times. I think you can aptly call something 'amateur' if they either don't or do not have the capability to use 'professional' equipment... Clearly Grooby has those capabilities and their photographers / videographers are professional enough to shoot content that is stylistically aware.

As a judge, you also know that EVERY site on the market has a scene or two that probably should have never seen the light of day. You can't take a bad scene and apply that site-wide to an entire company.

Finally, your point of 'industry standards' is fairly laughable. One could argue that as one of (if not THE) the largest producers of TS porn, Grooby Productions IS the industry standard.

SammiValentine

07-04-2012, 04:39 PM

Yea...Seduction is quality shit no question...but you could go away for a couple months, come back and quickly catch up on the updates. And I think the last time I was there, they dropped some of the earlier scenes. Strokers and Yum , Black T Girls all have lots more content and variety. I also like the Britt Gurls solo sites ( Libby, Sammi, Joanna) as well as Brittany, Delia....I like that independent streak. Jesus... have I missed anybody ? I like my TS porn like they serve food down in Little Italy. Family Style. They bring 4 or 5 huge platters of food, and you take a little from each as your appetite directs you.

thanks hun xx not long now till my website relaunches as sammivalentine.xxx on a rather epic "industry standard" CMS which does everything I could ever dream of and more, quality streaming, including mobile support,VOD (pay per scene or minute)... gonna be pretty fecking awesome for an independant solo site.

Sounds pretty standard but when your a little sardine, its more than exciting.

#happydays

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 04:41 PM

TS Seduction and TS Pussy Hunters are both excellent sites with great content. However, they cater to a VERY NARROW customer base wanting to see name brand TS models in 'domination' scenes.

MrsKellyPierce

07-04-2012, 04:46 PM

TS Seduction and TS Pussy Hunters are both excellent sites with great content. However, they cater to a VERY NARROW customer base wanting to see name brand TS models in 'domination' scenes.

I was speaking purely photography/videography

Not content

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 04:53 PM

It was just an general observation... not pointed at any particular post.

Castor_Troy05

07-04-2012, 05:44 PM

I'd say probably any of the Grooby sites especially Yum or Brazilian , or Bobs. Definitely good value for money

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 08:55 PM

This is what I'm talking about...

You're speaking as a consumer on a personal basis with a personal opinion without giving thought to the other perspectives (i.e. - other consumers, producers, directors, models, etc.). You're making general statements about something you obviously don't understand or haven't thought through. [ADDED ON EDIT: Using this logic, I could pretty much say you're uneducated and unintelligent because you have an occasional spelling mistake or grammatical error in your typing. However, that would be an unfair assumption because I don't know you as a person... your credentials, habits, etc. etc. You act as an 'insider' to the world of porn... are you or are you simply an individual consumer?]

You're calling something 'amateur' which, for all you know, may have well been shot that way purposefully. 'Amateur' as it relates to video and photo work is a STYLE, not a descriptor. As I stated, you can argue the TECHNICAL points of resolutions and ratios, but that is a separate issue... which you're trying to mix into the style of shooting.

So, I know you were a judge for the most recent Tranny Awards and had access to a number of different sites, including mine. Therefore, you are well aware that I shoot content that is unique and 'amateur' given your view. However, I shoot with a $1,500 camera, a $1,000 camcorder, and fairly expensive lighting at times. I think you can aptly call something 'amateur' if they either don't or do not have the capability to use 'professional' equipment... Clearly Grooby has those capabilities and their photographers / videographers are professional enough to shoot content that is stylistically aware.

As a judge, you also know that EVERY site on the market has a scene or two that probably should have never seen the light of day. You can't take a bad scene and apply that site-wide to an entire company.

Finally, your point of 'industry standards' is fairly laughable. One could argue that as one of (if not THE) the largest producers of TS porn, Grooby Productions IS the industry standard.

My judgement about Grooby is about their total work. I've been a member for years. I've enjoyed the content. In my opinion their style appears to be amateurish. There are many scenes with bad lighting, camera shots in the background, and seeing the cameraman. Their intent is not have an armature style. Their execution and final product appears amateurish. Maybe the editing team is the problem and it has nothing to do with the lighting and camera.

In my opinion Grooby has some great scenes such as Morgan Bailey's Christmas scene and Celeste's Thanksgiving scene. However, there are also bad quality scenes such as Kelly Clare's Shemalepornstar scene having poor lighting and the many scenes with camera shots in the background.

runningdownthatdream

07-04-2012, 09:18 PM

My judgement about Grooby is about their total work. I've been a member for years. I've enjoyed the content. In my opinion their style appears to be amateurish. There are many scenes with bad lighting, camera shots in the background, and seeing the cameraman. Their intent is not have an armature style. Their execution and final product appears amateurish. Maybe the editing team is the problem and it has nothing to do with the lighting and camera.

In my opinion Grooby has some great scenes such as Morgan Bailey's Christmas scene and Celeste's Thanksgiving scene. However, there are also bad quality scenes such as Kelly Clare's Shemalepornstar scene having poor lighting and the many scenes with camera shots in the background.

It might be time to check yourself into rehab...........seriously. Is it your mission to turn pornography into mainstream art? Is that why the constant nagging and whining about content quality? FFS it's PORN. You get in, get off, get out.......it's not meant to look like a Merchant/Ivory production although if that's what you want then go someplace where you can get it.

You clearly have an addiction although I don't think it is to sex per se or even to transsexuals.......perhaps you just need to get out more.

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 09:19 PM

My judgement about Grooby is about their total work. I've been a member for years. I've enjoyed the content. In my opinion their style appears to be amateurish. There are many scenes with bad lighting, camera shots in the background, and seeing the cameraman. Their intent is not have an armature style. Their execution and final product appears amateurish. Maybe the editing team is the problem and it has nothing to do with the lighting and camera.

In my opinion Grooby has some great scenes such as Morgan Bailey's Christmas scene and Celeste's Thanksgiving scene. However, there are also bad quality scenes such as Kelly Clare's Shemalepornstar scene having poor lighting and the many scenes with camera shots in the background.

And that's fine as an opinion. What I have a problem with is your presentation as an industry insider and not simply a consumer with an opinion. It is fine to say that you find some of the Grooby scenes suffer from... What I don't think is fine or fair to do is single out the entire company for the reasons you gave.

Unless you've joined all the sites you're 'judging' RECENTLY, and have done a thorough comparison of all content, then basically you're generalizing an OPINION. You should state it as such and add, as I did, that EVERY single site has some scenes with lighting, sound, and photo issues.

Personally, I'm not in the business of putting down other peoples' works or I could probably list examples from ALL the sites mentioned, including Grooby sites, that have both technical and quality issues. In my opinion, singling Grooby out as 'amateur' is plain silly, given your reasons.

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 09:27 PM

Their intent is not have an armature style. Their execution and final product appears amateurish.

These sentences right here indicates that you do not understand shooting video as a style, and in fact, undermines your entire line of reasoning thus far.

I think it has already been stated that SMY (ShemaleYum) and some of the other scenes are shot stylistically as 'gonzo' ... Educate yourself as to what that means before you go about stating what a producer's 'intent' is.

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 09:28 PM

It might be time to check yourself into rehab...........seriously. Is it your mission to turn pornography into mainstream art? Is that why the constant nagging and whining about content quality? FFS it's PORN. You get in, get off, get out.......it's not meant to look like a Merchant/Ivory production although if that's what you want then go someplace where you can get it.

You clearly have an addiction although I don't think it is to sex per se or even to transsexuals.......perhaps you just need to get out more.

The only person who needs a doctor is you. This topic is about QUALITY. That is why I am taking about quality. God Damn.

I need to get out more? Shit, I haven't been very active on this board in weeks. I have a life. Don't worry about my life. I don't live for you or anyone else. Go To Hell.

And that's fine as an opinion. What I have a problem with is your presentation as an industry insider and not simply a consumer with an opinion. It is fine to say that you find some of the Grooby scenes suffer from... What I don't think is fine or fair to do is single out the entire company for the reasons you gave.

Unless you've joined all the sites you're 'judging' RECENTLY, and have done a thorough comparison of all content, then basically you're generalizing an OPINION. You should state it as such and add, as I did, that EVERY single site has some scenes with lighting, sound, and photo issues.

Personally, I'm not in the business of putting down other peoples' works or I could probably list examples from ALL the sites mentioned, including Grooby sites, that have both technical and quality issues. In my opinion, singling Grooby out as 'amateur' is plain silly, given your reasons.

FYI I've been a member of every Grooby site. For years I was a Yum member. I am currently an ShemaleXXX and ShemalePornstar member. From time to time I join their Black Shemale sites to get updates featuring Sheba Starr and a few other girls. I've also checked out their Pornstar sites such as Jordan Jay and Britney.

I'm not acting like an insider. I have the content and seen the movies. Grooby is not up to standards. That does not mean the content is bad. To be up to standards they either must have the best quality and be among the best in quality. Right now SMC, Ts Seduction, and Fame Digital have Grooby beat in terms of video and picture quality. I've been a member at all of these sites. Read this topic. Everyone is saying TS Seduction has the best video and picture quality. You can't ignore that fact.

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 09:37 PM

The only person who needs a doctor is you. This topic is about QUALITY. That is why I am taking about quality. God Damn.

I need to get out more? Shit, I haven't been very active on this board in weeks. I have a life. Don't worry about my life. I don't live for you or anyone else. Go To Hell.

FYI I've been a member of every Grooby site. For years I was a Yum member. I am currently an ShemaleXXX and ShemalePornstar member. From time to time I join their Black Shemale sites to get updates featuring Sheba Starr and a few other girls. I've also checked out their Pornstar sites such as Jordan Jay and Britney.

I'm not acting like an insider. I have the content and seen the movies. Grooby is not up to standards. That does not mean the content is bad. To be up to standards they either must have the best quality and be among the best in quality. Right now SMC, Ts Seduction, and Fame Digital have Grooby beat in terms of video and picture quality.

It's wonderful that you are a Member of the sites, and totally irrelevant except to support the argument that people spend their dollars on where they know there is the best value, which again, undermines your other arguments.

Anyway, it sounds like you're getting pretty defensive about this and it is not my intention to start a war of words between us. I enjoy good debate and will engage when I can, so just a couple of points in closing.

A: Describe to me what you're using as '...up to standards' or 'industry standards' ... because I call BS and think you don't even know yourself. [ADDED ON EDIT: Using the term 'industry standards' presents yourself as an industry professional or someone who works within the industry such as a model, producer, director, distributor, etc. etc. Or, you could be a person with expert knowledge on the subject. One you've admitted you aren't and the other you've demonstrated contrary.] I'll trust that you're not running off to Google to find something...

B: Do you admit or not that ALL sites have some quality issues in some pictures and / or videos?

Thanks for the thinking... It's fun to exercise the noodle every once in a while.

runningdownthatdream

07-04-2012, 09:42 PM

The only person who needs a doctor is you. This topic is about QUALITY. That is why I am taking about quality. God Damn.

I need to get out more? Shit, I haven't been very active on this board in weeks. I have a life. Don't worry about my life. I don't live for you or anyone else. Go To Hell.

.................classic addict response............

FYI I've been a member of every Grooby site. For years I was a Yum member. I am currently an ShemaleXXX and ShemalePornstar member. From time to time I join their Black Shemale sites to get updates featuring Sheba Starr and a few other girls. I've also checked out their Pornstar sites such as Jordan Jay and Britney.

I'm not acting like an insider. I have the content and seen the movies. Grooby is not up to standards. That does not mean the content is bad. To be up to standards they either must have the best quality and be among the best in quality. Right now SMC, Ts Seduction, and Fame Digital have Grooby beat in terms of video and picture quality. I've been a member at all of these sites. Read this topic. Everyone is saying TS Seduction has the best video and picture quality. You can't ignore that fact.

Here's the thing: if you buy a Volkswagen then you bought it because it's a Volkswagen not because you WANT IT to be a Mercedes Benz. And if you bought it for the latter reason then chalk it up to a lesson learned and next time buy a MB. Whining about Volkswagen not being like a MB in a public forum just makes you look desperate or stupid or perhaps both. There's a reason you join Grooby: they have more content and more diverse content than anyone else. That's their niche. Obviously many people like that or Seanchai wouldn't be living in a palatial residence in Oahu(?) and jetting around the world. You on the other hand are more obsessed with 'quality' than anyone else and spending your time harassing him to change a formula that HAS WORKED WELL FOR HIM AND GROOBY for over a decade.

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 09:46 PM

It's wonderful that you are a Member of the sites, and totally irrelevant except to support the argument that people spend their dollars on where they know there is the best value, which again, undermines your other arguments.

Anyway, it sounds like you're getting pretty defensive about this and it is not my intention to start a war of words between us. I enjoy good debate and will engage when I can, so just a couple of points in closing.

A: Describe to me what you're using as '...up to standards' or 'industry standards' ... because I call BS and think you don't even know yourself. I'll trust that you're not running off to Google to find something...

B: Do you admit or not that ALL sites have some quality issues in some pictures and / or videos?

Thanks for the thinking... It's fun to exercise the noodle every once in a while.

Members spend their dollars where they can get the most for their money. Quantity does not mean quality. Members can get a lot of content from Grooby sites. More bang for your buck. That is not more quality for your buck.

The noodle is you. Everyone in this thread has agreed with me that TS Seduction has the best quality. Stop acting like the noodle and pay attention to what people are saying.

A. Again you ignoring that everyone is saying that TS Seduction has the best quality TS porn. You continue to ignore the facts.

This TS Seduction trailer is a great example of industry standard. The video is clear with good lighting. The setting looks professional and well done. There are no Grooby cameraman taking pictures during the movie and forgetting to switch to silent mode.

http://www.tsseduction.com/site/shoot/23377-Coo-Coo-ca-Choo-Foxxy-Seducing-a-19yr-old-in-the-Library-with-Her-Cock.html

B. No site is perfect. Errors will be made. Grooby does not appear to be fixing their errors. There are far too many videos with camera shots in the background.

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 09:51 PM

Here's the thing: if you buy a Volkswagen then you bought it because it's a Volkswagen not because you WANT IT to be a Mercedes Benz. And if you bought it for the latter reason then chalk it up to a lesson learned and next time buy a MB. Whining about Volkswagen not being like a MB in a public forum just makes you look desperate or stupid or perhaps both. There's a reason you join Grooby: they have more content and more diverse content than anyone else. That's their niche. Obviously many people like that or Seanchai wouldn't be living in a palatial residence in Oahu(?) and jetting around the world. You on the other hand are more obsessed with 'quality' than anyone else and spending your time harassing him to change a formula that HAS WORKED WELL FOR HIM AND GROOBY for over a decade.

Oh God. Do you know how to read? I never said Grooby had bad content. Grooby has some of my favorite scenes and I named two of those scenes. Overall I do not think Grooby is the best in the TS industry.

Quantity does not equal quality.

Don't tell me why I joined Grooby. You're not me. I joined for totally different reasons. I don't like more than half of the models they hire. I joined because I wanted to see the girls that I like. Some work with Grooby and others do not. Sometimes I wait until I see a girl I like to renew my membership.

I am telling why Grooby does not have the best quality product. How am I harassing him? READ THE FUCKING NAME OF THE TOPIC.

runningdownthatdream

07-04-2012, 09:55 PM

Members spend their dollars where they can get the most for their money. Quantity does not mean quality. Members can get a lot of content from Grooby sites. More bang for your buck. That is not more quality for your buck.

The noodle is you. Everyone in this thread has agreed with me that TS Seduction has the best quality. Stop acting like the noodle and pay attention to what people are saying.

A. Again you ignoring that everyone is saying that TS Seduction has the best quality TS porn. You continue to ignore the facts.

This TS Seduction trailer is a great example of industry standard. The video is clear with good lighting. The setting looks professional and well done. There are no Grooby cameraman taking pictures during the movie and forgetting to switch to silent mode.

http://www.tsseduction.com/site/shoot/23377-Coo-Coo-ca-Choo-Foxxy-Seducing-a-19yr-old-in-the-Library-with-Her-Cock.html

B. No site is perfect. Errors will be made. Grooby does not appear to be fixing their errors. There are far too many videos with camera shots in the background.

Let's put things in perspective: you're yammering (although I'm entertained by you and responding to you) about 30.00-35.00 per month and feeling slighted because when you spend that you're not getting 'quality'. I spend that shit on 2 double Grey Goose and I drink a LOT of double Grey Goose. I'm feeling more like you are a broke porn-addicted ass who spends most of his disposable (assuming you're not shacking up at your parents) income on Web Pornography. Hence all the complaining because you need 'quality' to get your rocks off since you don't have enough money to join all the fucking sites at the same time and just get what you need when you need from the place that has it.

Ok.....my comments on this topic are done ;)

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 10:00 PM

Members spend their dollars where they can get the most for their money. Quantity does not mean quality. Members can get a lot of content from Grooby sites. More bang for your buck. That is not more quality for your buck.

The noodle is you. Everyone in this thread has agreed with me that TS Seduction has the best quality. Stop acting like the noodle and pay attention to what people are saying.

A. Again you ignoring that everyone is saying that TS Seduction has the best quality TS porn. You continue to ignore the facts.

This TS Seduction trailer is a great example of industry standard. The video is clear with good lighting. The setting looks professional and well done. There are no Grooby cameraman taking pictures during the movie and forgetting to switch to silent mode.

http://www.tsseduction.com/site/shoot/23377-Coo-Coo-ca-Choo-Foxxy-Seducing-a-19yr-old-in-the-Library-with-Her-Cock.html

B. No site is perfect. Errors will be made. Grooby does not appear to be fixing their errors. There are far too many videos with camera shots in the background.

OK... again a demonstration of your lack of reasoning about how the industry works.

Almost ALL trailers are shot and made with material that is the 'best' of what the site has to offer. Often they are brightened or manipulated for the very fact that they ARE trailers... meant to entice people to join. Simplification of that process, obviously.

Additionally, you are not following a cohesive line of reasoning, which is evident by name calling.

You're asking me to make an argument that I never made. I wasn't the one putting down the quality of a company... YOU WERE. Therefore, it is not incumbent on me to state that TS Seduction has "...the best quality TS porn". I'm not ignoring any facts... YOU ARE. ([ADDED ON EDIT: You're taking a STYLE of shooting and saying THAT is a lack of QUALITY.])

You half-ass (for lack of a better term) answered both questions, I'm assuming, because you can't. My conclusion is that you have sour grapes about something and for some reason find this a fitting place to voice them.

timxxx

07-04-2012, 10:06 PM

I'm with FRANKLIN for the most part about TS Seduction & I'm not into shemales as tops.

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 10:09 PM

Additionally, you are not following a cohesive line of reasoning, which is evident by name calling.

Are you kidding me? You targeted me in this thread. EVERYONE else has also said that TS Seduction is the best. You're not bitching at them. I wasn't first the poster who said TS Seduction is the best. Get off my damn back.

BluegrassCat

07-04-2012, 10:10 PM

TS Seduction

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 10:12 PM

Members spend their dollars where they can get the most for their money.

Another indication that you don't understand the porn market. This is simply a false statement.

Members spend their dollars in porn based on what turns them on, not on a "...most for their money" decision. There are probably exceptions every now and then but as a general statement... incorrect.

Let's take your precious TS Seduction for example. Clearly, TS Seduction is a niche site... I think we can agree on that? TS Seduction has repeat performers (they rarely 'debut' a model) doing repeat (stylistically) scenes in repeat (similar) scenes. The site works because it plays to that audience... remarkably well. It survives not on the basis of 'most for their money', but because it has found a niche that not many others are servicing and has marketed itself well to an audience that is loyal. THOUSANDS of other sites service customers in this fashion.

lifeisfiction

07-04-2012, 10:13 PM

Sigh, well I will be Mr. Different. It depends on what you want. Some of these sites I had used at sometime.

If you want a variety of porn, hands down dollar for quality Videobox. Vast library on everything not only ts porn. Videobox is great.

For me when it came to sole transsexual sites, I really loved asian-ts, $89 for a year of great ladyboy content (If you get it, I recommend looking for Nancy in the red lingere, Fon, and Jane.)

Outside of Transsexual porn, if you want great scenes I will go with a good and current fav, Reality Kings. Delivers hard and for 90 dollars for the year too hard to pass up. Also to note their customers service ranks number one from my interaction.

Studio websites, I really liking and hope it can grow is evil angel locked in at 14 bucks a month really loving the site. I'm waiting till they finish putting up some more of joey silveras older works.

There are a few sites other sites that I use, but for honorable mention Deskbabes if you want good hardcore lesbian porn on your desktop without having to use a video player, monthly subscription at 14bucks a month and new deskbabes set delivered everyday.

There are some more but these are a good start for me.

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 10:22 PM

Are you kidding me? You targeted me in this thread. EVERYONE else has also said that TS Seduction is the best. You're not bitching at them. I wasn't first the poster who said TS Seduction is the best. Get off my damn back.

OK... since you're not following... I'll spell it out...

It is irrelevant that others said TS Seduction is the best or not... you were the only one to make a list from 'best to worst' with reasons... and got called out for it. Now you're whining because you can't defend your position.

If you had just stated, 'I think TS Seduction is the best', I would have read it and said 'Great!'.

Next time, if you're NOT willing or able to defend the arguments about stating a company as 'worst'... then shut your mouth and don't state it publicly.

You're here telling another Member to read the Thread Topic and that he can't read...??? As far as I can tell, the thread topic said 'BEST QUALITY / CONTENT..' and said nothing about saying who was 'worst'.

You made a statement with the implication that you're some huge expert and consumer of porn, with the ability to accurately make such a list and got called out to defend your position. Which you have yet to state cohesively.

I'll repeat the questions...

A: What is your definition of 'industry standard' ?

B: A simple TRUE / FALSE ... ALL sites have scenes (video and photos) that have 'errors' in them?

and one more to add...

C: Is it unfair to call a scene shot stylistically an 'error'?

runningdownthatdream

07-04-2012, 10:26 PM

Another indication that you don't understand the porn market. This is simply a false statement.

Members spend their dollars in porn based on what turns them on, not on a "...most for their money" decision. There are probably exceptions every now and then but as a general statement... incorrect.

Let's take your precious TS Seduction for example. Clearly, TS Seduction is a niche site... I think we can agree on that? TS Seduction has repeat performers (they rarely 'debut' a model) doing repeat (stylistically) scenes in repeat (similar) scenes. The site works because it plays to that audience... remarkably well. It survives not on the basis of 'most for their money', but because it has found a niche that not many others are servicing and has marketed itself well to an audience that is loyal. THOUSANDS of other sites service customers in this fashion.

I said I wasn't going to comment on this topic anymore BUT you made a great point which I highlighted above. Franklin's contrary argument on the other hand sounds like it's coming from someone who watches porn for reasons other than the primal sexual urge. Seems like 'best value' for him is because he needs to get as much porn as possible for as little price as possible because he NEEDS porn.

GroobyKrissy

07-04-2012, 10:31 PM

Are you kidding me? You targeted me in this thread. EVERYONE else has also said that TS Seduction is the best. You're not bitching at them. I wasn't first the poster who said TS Seduction is the best. Get off my damn back.

Poor, poor Franklin... :heartbroken:

I didn't 'target' you at all. I assume that if you're on a forum like this for discussion purposes and you post something, you're willing to discuss it. If you're not, you shouldn't be posting it in the first place.

If anyone else had posting something negative that I disagreed with in this thread, I would have addressed them as well. You're the one posting negative opinions stated as fact that you can't defend.

Boo-hoo.

LibertyHarkness

07-04-2012, 10:31 PM

there is a big difference between watching porn to get off .. to being addicted to pornography .

lifeisfiction

07-04-2012, 10:37 PM

there is a big difference between watching porn to get off .. to being addicted to pornography .

Very true, but I prefer just having sex.

LibertyHarkness

07-04-2012, 10:51 PM

i agree :) xx

onmyknees

07-04-2012, 10:58 PM

thanks hun xx not long now till my website relaunches as sammivalentine.xxx on a rather epic "industry standard" CMS which does everything I could ever dream of and more, quality streaming, including mobile support,VOD (pay per scene or minute)... gonna be pretty fecking awesome for an independant solo site.

Sounds pretty standard but when your a little sardine, its more than exciting.

#happydays

Well I'll tell ya what baby..........I'll be there for the grand reopening of Sammi xxx even if the only content is a larger picture of that ass in your avatar it would be worth the price of admission. Jumpin' Geezus what a sexy fucking backside !:hitit

TSPornFan

07-04-2012, 11:03 PM

I said I wasn't going to comment on this topic anymore BUT you made a great point which I highlighted above. Franklin's contrary argument on the other hand sounds like it's coming from someone who watches porn for reasons other than the primal sexual urge. Seems like 'best value' for him is because he needs to get as much porn as possible for as little price as possible because he NEEDS porn.

I'm a single guy who enjoys his TS porn. That is not an addiction. I clearly don't have an addiction because the only TWO sites I am currently subscribed to are ShemaleXXX and ShemalePornstar.

You can't judge TS porn to straight porn. There's not a lot of companies who make TS porn. Overall there is very little content released each year. Compared to most niches TS produces very little hardcore content because it has a smaller market.

Grooby sites provides the most porn for the least amount of money. What is a person going to do pay 35 bucks for daily picture updates at SMC or pay 35 for pictures AND videos? SMC releases pictures and videos as different updates. Since there aren't a lot of options for TS porn then people are likely to go to get the most out of their money.

Poor, poor Franklin... :heartbroken:

I didn't 'target' you at all. I assume that if you're on a forum like this for discussion purposes and you post something, you're willing to discuss it. If you're not, you shouldn't be posting it in the first place.

If anyone else had posting something negative that I disagreed with in this thread, I would have addressed them as well. You're the one posting negative opinions stated as fact that you can't defend.

Boo-hoo.

I defended myself in this thread. You're just ignoring the posts and making piss poor excuses.

GroobyKrissy

07-05-2012, 12:24 AM

I defended myself in this thread. You're just ignoring the posts and making piss poor excuses.

Please. You can't even provide STRAIGHT answers to the three basic questions that I posed to you because your whole argument then becomes invalid.

EPIC fail.

ballzNnutz

07-05-2012, 10:01 AM

i think without a question you get more bang for your buck with the grooby sites. they update all ther sites weekly and the variety is vast. best value is to join after a hiatus and you have tons of new content to see. i really dont see the complaints about video and picture quality. what more do you want? they have sd and hd options and high quality picture sets. if the style of shooting is you gripe then ok but the quality itself is good enough. i guess you can complain about subpar updates but thats subjective. you may hate an update but the next perv may love it and vice versa. its always gonna be hit or miss when new models are constantly being introduced. my only complaint or wish would to be able to access different websites much like the bangbros netowork. one low price gets you access to all the content. i seen the grooby tickets program but that isnt ideal. you basically get a small discount on a website as long as you purchase at least 5 subscriptions at a time. that still gets you access to one website per ticket which is essentially the same as purchasing a singles month membership without the bulk discount.

since im on the subject i would also like to see some fetish content tapped more frequently like the girls fucking fleshlights and various toys, tg ass worship, tg fucking machines and a shemale based handjob site where they are bound and jerked off whether it be with toys, reach arounds etc... much like the site handdomination but with tgirls only. let me add look at similar sites like shemalestrokers. good site but it pales in comparison. the updates are recycled or few and far between compared to groobys whether is shemaleasia btg or yum. some of the girls who have their independent websites can go weeks or months with no updates which is a real ripoff. thats my rant.