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soul4real
03-12-2006, 06:34 PM
That’s how I feel sometimes when I think about things as a whole from a moral stand point. We here lust and look over these ladies as cattle or live stock. With no real thought that we are capitalizing off their misfortune. I use to go through this watching regular porn before. After dealing with women who used to do porn. Her story and the tragedy in her life that drove her to porn really had me ashamed to be a fan of porn for awhile. And I fear I'm going through the same thing again only this is worse. These ladies have comes to turn with making a life changing decision that takes more courage and strength then a lot of us will ever have. And take control over their lives, as some of us will never truly control our lives. And most do this at such a young age. And how do we help? But exploiting them? I mean honestly I find it funny that a lot of you guys consider yourself "good guys". Your married with kids but your attracted to transsexual ladies so you go see an escort and think its charitable. No its disgusting! Do you really think that she wants to sleep with a middle aged, over weight baled man? Do you think you could possibly talk to such a beautiful women if you didn’t come bearing "gifts"? Its sad that these ladies take such a bold leap of faith in changing only to meet such a harsh world. And for the ladies that may come in here and disagree with me and say you don’t mind escorting, that’s bullshit. I'm sure you had other dreams of how your life would turn out, and this isn’t the same path you want to be in when your getting older. But I don’t blame you your just playing the cards you were dealt. I feel sick about the situation that’s all and myself for even being here to witness and watch. :(
*Rant over*

Quinn
03-12-2006, 06:38 PM
:popcorn

soul4real
03-12-2006, 06:48 PM
:popcorn

Indeed I cant see how anyone can deny this

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
03-12-2006, 06:48 PM
You are entitled to rant or vent I just wish you'd use spell check before you typed a paragraph like that, took me longer than it should have with those grammatical errors.........................

now.........................

let's go through this


That’s how I feel sometimes when I think about things as a whole from a moral stand point. We here lust and look over these ladies as cattle or live stock.

And many of them lust and look at dudes as dollar signs or a rent check fulfilled.............


I mean honestly I find it funny that a lot of you guys consider yourself "good guys". Your married with kids but your attracted to transsexual ladies so you go see an escort and think its charitable. No its disgusting! Do you really think that she wants to sleep with a middle aged, over weight baled man? Do you think you could possibly talk to such a beautiful women if you didn’t come bearing "gifts"?

Not every guy on this board or that frequent visits to shemale apartments or parties/pick up spots is a balding middle-aged man. You'd be amazed how many of us are full-haired, in-shape, successful men. And to be honest those brethren of ours that are middle-aged and balding are due some respect also, they go through enough bullshit just like anyone else.


I feel sick about the situation that’s all and myself for even being here to witness and watch. :(


I seriously doubt you feel sick, to me this thread was about pussy/tranny points (lol) you might have succeeded, check your inbox in a few hours, one or 2 tgirls might have been moved.......................

Many of these women are doing their best to better themselves. Many of them have gotten lost in a sea of drugs, hormones, alcohol, stress, and overdue bills.................
I say give respect when it's given, fuck pity..............

BeardedOne
03-12-2006, 06:55 PM
I mean honestly I find it funny that a lot of you guys consider yourself "good guys". Your married with kids but your attracted to transsexual ladies so you go see an escort and think its charitable.

I =try= to be a 'good guy', but it's up to the world at large to decide if I'm any success at it.

As for being 'charitible' to an escort, I dislike the term 'donation' because, for me, it's not even close to that definition. If there's charity involved, it's on the part of the girl, giving me a pity fuck for which she is rewarded with the requested fee. I'm too emotionally damaged to be in any more 'real' relationships and I find escorts to be a better choice (And much better company) over the necessary psych 'professionals'.

I'm not married (No woman is =that= charitable), so moralizing from that standpoint is lost on me.

Sure, there are some girls who are in the sex industry because they 'have' to be (All things relative), but I don't think all of them consider it a 'misfortune'.


Do you think you could possibly talk to such a beautiful women if you didn’t come bearing "gifts"?

No. I keep my balls in my wallet. Otherwise, I'd be terrified to so much as say "Hello" to any one of them.


Do you really think that she wants to sleep with a middle aged, over weight baled man?

Being the product of a second marriage I thankfully missed that genetic bullet and am the only male in the family that isn't "baled". And, to date, I haven't 'slept' with any of these girls. As for the other activities we engage in, I think they are more annoyed with the fact that I talk too much during our sessions.


Its sad that these ladies take such a bold leap of faith in changing only to meet such a harsh world.

Some years ago I attended a conference in Chicago. In the program book there was a piece on the CTA, Chicago's transit system, and its 'el' lines. One quote, from this professionally produced guide to the city, that stands out: "If you find yourself in the numbered streets, don't get off the train or you will die!".

The world sucks. Adopt, adapt, and improve.

Your rant is appreciated, however, and it's reassuring to know you have a heart. Just be careful where you use it.




Hey, Quinn, izzat stuff buttered? :lol:

BeardedOne
03-12-2006, 06:58 PM
check your inbox in a few hours, one or 2 tgirls might have been moved.......................

Or need help moving. :lol:

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
03-12-2006, 06:58 PM
No. I keep my balls in my wallet. Otherwise, I'd be terrified to so much as say "Hello" to any one of them.


LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
fuckin classic

specialk
03-12-2006, 06:59 PM
Let me take this time to thank you for setting the entire male, admiring of Tgirl world, straight here. Nothing like a blanket statement lumping every guy in here as a low life! .......Yeh, I can see why your so sick. I just hope somebody throws a blanket over you... soon!

soul4real
03-12-2006, 07:01 PM
[b]And many of them lust and look at dudes as dollar signs or a rent check fulfilled.............


I feel you there are always exceptions to every rule
But honestly they may be one of the last communities that still receive a harsh amount of discrimination in the work place
and transitioning is expensive as hell
If your gonna get used why not at least try to help yourself too





Not every guy on this board or that frequent visits to shemale apartments or parties/pick up spots is a balding middle-aged man. You'd be amazed how many of us are full-haired, in-shape, successful men. And to be honest those brethren of ours that are middle-aged and balding are due some respect also, they go through enough bullshit just like anyone else.


Of course not ever guy is balding or ugly I'm just using examples the less brighter sides of these ladies lives. I cant imagine how it would feel to get groped and have sex with someone that in my mind I'm disgusted by.



I seriously doubt you feel sick, to me this thread was about pussy/tranny points (lol) you might have succeeded, check your inbox in a few hours, one or 2 tgirls might have been moved.......................

Many of these women are doing their best to better themselves. Many of them have gotten lost in a sea of drugs, hormones, alcohol, stress, and overdue bills.................
I say give respect when it's given, fuck pity..............





Nah I dont need thepussy points I look good enough in person. But I just get in Donny Hathaway emotional moods where I really sit back and think of things. And as I thought on this it really had me thinking that the sea of drugs, alcohol and stress with overdue bills are just ways to cope with the situation these ladies are faced in.
I'm not giving pity either we all have to make choices in our lives, but when your choices are slimer then the next persons thats fucked up.

soul4real
03-12-2006, 07:01 PM
Let me take this time to thank you for setting the entire male, admiring of Tgirl world, straight here. Nothing like a blanket statement lumping every guy in here as a low life! .......Yeh, I can see why your so sick. I just hope somebody throws a blanket over you... soon!


You mad? Obviously I touched a nerve with you. You must feel pretty sorry for yourself

specialk
03-12-2006, 07:03 PM
Let me take this time to thank you for setting the entire male, admiring of Tgirl world, straight here. Nothing like a blanket statement lumping every guy in here as a low life! .......Yeh, I can see why your so sick. I just hope somebody throws a blanket over you... soon!


You mad? Obviously I touched a nerve with you. You must feel pretty sorry for yourself

Mad??? Sorry fella, none of your rant applies to me. You did however touch a nerve with me.....the funny bone!!

soul4real
03-12-2006, 07:07 PM
I mean honestly I find it funny that a lot of you guys consider yourself "good guys". Your married with kids but your attracted to transsexual ladies so you go see an escort and think its charitable.

I =try= to be a 'good guy', but it's up to the world at large to decide if I'm any success at it.

As for being 'charitible' to an escort, I dislike the term 'donation' because, for me, it's not even close to that definition. If there's charity involved, it's on the part of the girl, giving me a pity fuck for which she is rewarded with the requested fee. I'm too emotionally damaged to be in any more 'real' relationships and I find escorts to be a better choice (And much better company) over the necessary psych 'professionals'.

I'm not married (No woman is =that= charitable), so moralizing from that standpoint is lost on me.

Sure, there are some girls who are in the sex industry because they 'have' to be (All things relative), but I don't think all of them consider it a 'misfortune'.


Do you think you could possibly talk to such a beautiful women if you didn’t come bearing "gifts"?

No. I keep my balls in my wallet. Otherwise, I'd be terrified to so much as say "Hello" to any one of them.


Do you really think that she wants to sleep with a middle aged, over weight baled man?

Being the product of a second marriage I thankfully missed that genetic bullet and am the only male in the family that isn't "baled". And, to date, I haven't 'slept' with any of these girls. As for the other activities we engage in, I think they are more annoyed with the fact that I talk too much during our sessions.


Its sad that these ladies take such a bold leap of faith in changing only to meet such a harsh world.

Some years ago I attended a conference in Chicago. In the program book there was a piece on the CTA, Chicago's transit system, and its 'el' lines. One quote, from this professionally produced guide to the city, that stands out: "If you find yourself in the numbered streets, don't get off the train or you will die!".

The world sucks. Adopt, adapt, and improve.

Your rant is appreciated, however, and it's reassuring to know you have a heart. Just be careful where you use it.




Hey, Quinn, izzat stuff buttered? :lol:


Ok point taken. You dont wanna deal with the stess of real relationship and much rather be in and out. Dish out your problems to someone who will listen. I understand what your saying. But do you really think they care to listen to your problems? Or want to help? Im being sarcastic of course but, what you see as a getting your rocks off and letting off some steam to someone that will listen. Is another person selling their body and having a part of their pride chipped away. :(

soul4real
03-12-2006, 07:10 PM
Mad??? Sorry fella, none of your rant applies to me. You did however touch a nerve with me.....the funny bone!!


And your corny sarcastic joke was funny?

If it doesnt apply to you move on
If you dont have honest opinon keep it moving

AllanahStarrNYC
03-12-2006, 07:11 PM
ok god

is dr phil here now?-

bottom line-
stop being so judgemental to others and if u really give a shit to something to really help someone instead of put a whole community down.

there are many transgendered projects that can use volunteers and or help. put your effort where you mouth is and don't come down so hard on others.

yeah maybe a lot of guys just see us as sexual objects- and that is social conditioning. is it acceptable -no. it is up to us to stand uo for ourselfves and not give into it.

yeah mlost girls escort- dp they like it? maybe some do or some don't. it's also called survival and the fact that most ts girls have very limited oppurtunities.

i wish you guys would consider the amount of money it takes to actually transition-

and there are a whole bunch of people int his world who have a problem with addiction- far many more than transsexuals.

Quinn
03-12-2006, 07:17 PM
Hey, Quinn, izzat stuff buttered? :lol:

LOL... Actually, it's a metaphor for the bagels my wife and I are eating while watching both this and CNN Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer. As luck would have it, the bagels do, in fact, have a little butter.

My two cents: There are no victims on either side. To say so is disingenuous at best.

-Quinn

soul4real
03-12-2006, 07:19 PM
ok god

is dr phil here now?-

bottom line-
stop being so judgemental to others and if u really give a shit to something to really help someone instead of put a whole community down.

there are many transgendered projects that can use volunteers and or help. put your effort where you mouth is and don't come down so hard on others.

yeah maybe a lot of guys just see us as sexual objects- and that is social conditioning. is it acceptable -no. it is up to us to stand uo for ourselfves and not give into it.

yeah mlost girls escort- dp they like it? maybe some do or some don't. it's also called survival and the fact that most ts girls have very limited oppurtunities.

i wish you guys would consider the amount of money it takes to actually transition-

and there are a whole bunch of people int his world who have a
problem with addiction- far many more than transsexuals.


Yeah I am wrong to judge so fast but thats just how I was feeling at the time and typed it. And it wasnt as much upset with ppl but as you stated, limited oppurtunities and the price of transtion and survial of the fittest aspects.
I try to do a lot of volunteer work maybe i should add some transgendred work as well.

specialk
03-12-2006, 07:22 PM
Mad??? Sorry fella, none of your rant applies to me. You did however touch a nerve with me.....the funny bone!!


And your corny sarcastic joke was funny?

If it doesnt apply to you move on
If you dont have honest opinon keep it moving

Look friend, I gave you my honest opinion....who the hell are you to lump all the guys here into one neat little basket? Not to mention speaking for all the girls who escort, and what their motivation is!!!! Hey, I'm sorry you are having a personal crisis in here, but don't drag the rest of us down with you. If you had kept your rant self inclusive only, I might have been a little more sympathetic maybe!

BeardedOne
03-12-2006, 07:23 PM
But do you really think they care to listen to your problems? Or want to help?

Don't be silly. Tricks are for...

But I digress.

In all honesty, I talk more about my cat and my stamps than I do about my problems. Hell, nobody has that kind of time or patience and I certainly don't have that kind of money. Maybe that's why they haven't blocked my number from their cell. Yet.

I see them for the company as much as I do for the 'bonus features'. My first T-girl is the one that turned me onto JibJab. :lol: The second, I sat in the window of her hotel room with her and pointed out the sights of the city.

Kee-rist, if I used them as a crying rag I'd be listed as the leading cause of suicide in the TS community.

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
03-12-2006, 07:27 PM
I agree Allanah there are several people that are fucked up out there, but he specifically spoke about tgirls, so thats what I responded to..................

my point is this if it hasn't been made clear already

there are some FANTASTIC tgirls out there
I hang around a few of them on a weekly basis
AND
there are some CRAZY BITCHES out there
which I also hang around on a weekly basis

I will admit that many of the men I see approaching tgirls locally are middle aged, and yes some of them are bald, but that doesnt make them losers, or bad people, and soul I'm not blasting you, it's your right to vent, it's just that I have come to know a few of these guys and they aren't all losers, some of them are cool as fuck

I refuse to sit back and feel sorry for a woman that is not doing everything they can to better themselves when they are surrounded by women in their situation that ARE bettering themselves. Instead of asking one of those women what they need to do they wallow (did I spell that right?) in self-pity (IMO) and act childish...............................

soul4real
03-12-2006, 07:35 PM
I agree Allanah there are several people that are fucked up out there, but he specifically spoke about tgirls, so thats what I responded to..................

my point is this if it hasn't been made clear already

there are some FANTASTIC tgirls out there
I hang around a few of them on a weekly basis
AND
there are some CRAZY BITCHES out there
which I also hang around on a weekly basis

I will admit that many of the men I see approaching tgirls locally are middle aged, and yes some of them are bald, but that doesnt make them losers, or bad people, and soul I'm not blasting you, it's your right to vent, it's just that I have come to know a few of these guys and they aren't all losers, some of them are cool as fuck

I refuse to sit back and feel sorry for a woman that is not doing everything they can to better themselves when they are surrounded by women in their situation that ARE bettering themselves. Instead of asking one of those women what they need to do they wallow (did I spell that right?) in self-pity (IMO) and act childish...............................



I can agree with this and I was wrong to generalize everything

flabbybody
03-12-2006, 07:56 PM
escorts and chasers are brought together because of a mutual symbiotic need for each other. There doesn't need to be exploitation involved and I would say that many girls actually enjoy the time spent with their regular johns. I'll only be a repeat customer if I feel the girl liked me. I would never expect anyone to be with someone they find repulsive.

hate to say it, but this industry's been around for about 5 thousand years. so crying over "exploited" hookers is kind of akin to the "am I gay" threads. Is your next topic going to proclaim how you're against childhood hunger?

ok, you're forgiven now. we all have our rants

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
03-12-2006, 08:00 PM
escorts and chasers are brought together because of a mutual symbiotic need for each other. There doesn't need to be exploitation involved and I would say that many girls actually enjoy the time spent with their regular johns. I'll only be a repeat customer if I feel the girl liked me. I would never expect anyone to be with someone they find repulsive.

hate to say it, but this industry's been around for about 5 thousand years. so crying over "exploited" hookers is kind of akin to the "am I gay" threads. Is your next topic going to proclaim how you're against childhood hunger?

ok, you're forgiven now. we all have our rants

spoken from a middle-aged full head of hair man

HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

take that soul

LOL

Hara_Juku Tgirl
03-12-2006, 08:31 PM
there are some FANTASTIC tgirls out there I hang around a few of them on a weekly basis

AND there are some CRAZY BITCHES out there
which I also hang around on a weekly basis.

:lol: :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

GrimFusion
03-12-2006, 09:32 PM
Any group of people, no matter their shared interest, are usually defined by the worst of actions. People have a tendency, no matter what the situation, to only focus on negative aspects. It's easier to remember the bad shit than try to focus on the good.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of "black and white" thinkers out there that would sooner accept ONLY the good or bad that comes out of a situation than look at the full scope in a reckless attempt of summing up things they don't quite understand or don't want to bother learning about.

When applied to a community like ours, outsiders assume "admirers" like us are a bunch of freakishly gay 40-year-old men that obsessively feed on social outcasts that will go to any lengths to be accepted and loved. Sure, there are extreme examples of middle-aged men that prey on TS women because they think they're vulnerable; as I'm sure there are some TS women in the world that transition because they don't feel they're getting enough public attention as men, but those are worse case examples, and a definite rarity in the community.

In all honesty, any group of people are comprised of good, neutral, and bad, but most people fall within a neutral position. Neutral is always overlooked because it's nothing exciting to talk about. I'm not going to lay out any blanket statements here, as trying to talk up people in the community could end up being just as skewed a perspective as trying to say the whole community is filled with perverts. Neither are inherently correct opinions, despite either's level of inaccuracy.

Personally, I think these forums offer a great opportunity. Outside of the picture and movie posts, these forums serve as a way for men to normalize themselves with transsexuals. To get to know the women on more of a personal level, and perhaps recognize something outside of lust for them. Again, no blanket statements here... I'm sure there are still quite a few examples of guys that log on just to see the pictures, but at least the opportunity to connect with people, despite their sexual orientation, prejudices, or opinions exists here.

tommytuu
03-12-2006, 09:49 PM
ok god

is dr phil here now?-

bottom line-
stop being so judgemental to others and if u really give a shit to something to really help someone instead of put a whole community down.

there are many transgendered projects that can use volunteers and or help. put your effort where you mouth is and don't come down so hard on others.

yeah maybe a lot of guys just see us as sexual objects- and that is social conditioning. is it acceptable -no. it is up to us to stand uo for ourselfves and not give into it.

yeah mlost girls escort- dp they like it? maybe some do or some don't. it's also called survival and the fact that most ts girls have very limited oppurtunities.

i wish you guys would consider the amount of money it takes to actually transition-

and there are a whole bunch of people int his world who have a
problem with addiction- far many more than transsexuals.


Yeah I am wrong to judge so fast but thats just how I was feeling at the time and typed it. And it wasnt as much upset with ppl but as you stated, limited oppurtunities and the price of transtion and survial of the fittest aspects.
I try to do a lot of volunteer work maybe i should add some transgendred work as well.Although some may see this as just a shemale forum, they're some pretty bright and sharp people here. Next time, if you wanna rant, THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BEFORE YOU SAY IT. Best way to get attacked here is to type before thinking. btw, if these are really you're true feelings, hang out on 14th street Mr. angelic and tell those girls everything you said here. I'd love to hear what happens.

hwbs
03-12-2006, 11:26 PM
:banghead :deadhorse :screwy :frustrated :trolls :sleep :jerkoff :smoking

hwbs
03-12-2006, 11:29 PM
i think its better to judge on an individual basis then to just generalize....like they say , a bad apple spoils a bunch...if u dont wanna be quote on quote , "trick"...dont represent yourself as one... :violin

chefmike
03-13-2006, 12:12 AM
hate to say it, but this industry's been around for about 5 thousand years. so crying over "exploited" hookers is kind of akin to the "am I gay" threads. Is your next topic going to proclaim how you're against childhood hunger?

Indeed it has...and let's not forget two other time honored traditions that have often been used to promote hysteria... making spirits and cultivating the kind bud... :wink:

Hugh Jarrod
03-13-2006, 12:20 AM
Any group of people, no matter their shared interest, are usually defined by the worst of actions. People have a tendency, no matter what the situation, to only focus on negative aspects. It's easier to remember the bad shit than try to focus on the good.

Unfortunately, there's a lot of "black and white" thinkers out there that would sooner accept ONLY the good or bad that comes out of a situation than look at the full scope in a reckless attempt of summing up things they don't quite understand or don't want to bother learning about.

When applied to a community like ours, outsiders assume "admirers" like us are a bunch of freakishly gay 40-year-old men that obsessively feed on social outcasts that will go to any lengths to be accepted and loved. Sure, there are extreme examples of middle-aged men that prey on TS women because they think they're vulnerable; as I'm sure there are some TS women in the world that transition because they don't feel they're getting enough public attention as men, but those are worse case examples, and a definite rarity in the community.

In all honesty, any group of people are comprised of good, neutral, and bad, but most people fall within a neutral position. Neutral is always overlooked because it's nothing exciting to talk about. I'm not going to lay out any blanket statements here, as trying to talk up people in the community could end up being just as skewed a perspective as trying to say the whole community is filled with perverts. Neither are inherently correct opinions, despite either's level of inaccuracy.

Personally, I think these forums offer a great opportunity. Outside of the picture and movie posts, these forums serve as a way for men to normalize themselves with transsexuals. To get to know the women on more of a personal level, and perhaps recognize something outside of lust for them. Again, no blanket statements here... I'm sure there are still quite a few examples of guys that log on just to see the pictures, but at least the opportunity to connect with people, despite their sexual orientation, prejudices, or opinions exists here.

Well put. As far as the original post goes eh. I like beautiful gils (and gurls) don't have a GF or wife if I did I wouldn't be out enjoying the my life they way I am now. I'd be at home enjoying it another way. Most of the point is about lust, well that's just a human emotion you feel it. I feel it, eveyone does. It comes down to how you deal with it that defines you as a person.

MarylandsMighty
03-21-2006, 12:23 AM
If someone likes death metal, they can find cds of it or live bands to play it.

If someone likes to fight, they can find an outlet for that or again, pay money to watch men fight.

If men want to sleep with a shemale, they can do it.

It isnt rape, it is a 2 way street. Supply and demand. Simple economics.

If someone wants to get fucked in the ass by a clown, a whole group of men and women will be buying clown costumes and placing ads on Eros.

Just the way it is. Bitching about the plight of the escort if fucking sad. How about feeling bad for the man who has to pay a woman so that he can feel loved for one night. Thats a tough life, and Im sure many men do just that.

So all have it hard, and some get it hard, and it isnt too hard to let it be.

Hugh Jarrod
03-21-2006, 12:50 AM
If someone wants to get fucked in the ass by a clown

Oddly enough, my childhood nightmare.

reelgurl
03-21-2006, 06:36 AM
Your heart is felt soul4real but i hope you don't think transsexuals are a particularly more miserable, exploited bunch as a community than say, Katrina victims, u.s. soilders in Iraq, starving children in Africa, or even normal middle-class American families who went bankrupt due to one big medical bill. There are injustices, systematic exploitations every where. You are systemacially exploited by your health insurance company; you are exploited by your employer who makes profits out of your work. And how do you deal with it? Have a revolution like the Russian did? Go to church and donate 15% of your income to buy mental peace? (That only makes the churches richer.) Volunteering is a great way to make an effort alhtough it might just be a drop into the sea but somebody has to start from somewhere. But in reality everybody has to make a compromise somewhere including yourself. It's good to have a set of morals and live up to it but judging everybody with your own set of morals is sancimonious and unpractical. T-girls are like everybody else, as a free citizen, bottom line, we can choose what profession we want to go into, what lifestyle we want to live. I think it's great that some of us have a choice to escort, or do porn. As long as that's their free choices. Escorting and/or doing porn make more money faster than any other profession that is accessable and available for an average, not particularly skilled person, but like any other profession it has its not-so-sweet side. If escorting is a business that only serves good-looking young successful guys and makes the amount of money it makes and everybody is nice and it doesn't cause any emotional trauma and it's all good etc. wow what dream profession are we talking about here?! Of course it's not all good. If you can't take so-called bald middle-aged men you choose not to do it. Plenty T-girls choose not to escort for various reasons. There is of course forced prostitution every where but most of TS escorts, like most girl or guy escorts, are not forced into it. People are in it for different reasons, some like sex, some like money, some like both, some don't like either but it's quick and fast. It's true that we need more money, for the transition that we need to make but, to be fair, my neighbour needs more money to send his kids to college. Who needs it more?! Everybody can do with more money can't we. Escorting/doing porn is a pretty good way to save up some decent ammount of money in a short period of time. As long as it is based on consensus, why is it more exploitive and wrong than other means of making a living? Unless you are judging from some religious set of morals (it's wrong it's in the Bible stuff)? Which I don't believe. And why is it disgusting for married guys to either enjoy porns at home or go out see an escort as long as there is no real victims? I hope it's not because your Bible said it was wrong because not everybody abides by the same one.

Felicia Katt
03-21-2006, 07:05 AM
Sometimes I wonder if we shall ever grow up in our politics and say definite things which mean something, or whether we shall always go on using generalities to which everyone can subscribe, and which mean very little.”
Eleanor Roosevelt

This is a great thread, and the very fact we are discussing these generalizations gives me hope we can escape them.

FK

Felicia Katt
03-21-2006, 07:24 AM
If someone wants to get fucked in the ass by a clown

Oddly enough, my childhood nightmare.

hey Hugh

BOO

LOL

meow

FK