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Los Angeles resident
06-04-2012, 07:24 PM
Sunday, June 3, 2012, 5:02 PM EDT

AFTER GORY INCIDENTS, ONLINE "ZOMBIE" TALK GROWS

By VICKI SMITH and TAMARA LUSH, Associated Press Writers

TAMPA, Florida (AP) -- First came Miami: the case of a naked man eating most of another man's face. Then Maryland, a college student telling police he killed a man, then ate his heart and part of his brain.

It was different in New Jersey, where a man stabbed himself 50 times and threw bits of his own intestines at police. They pepper-sprayed him, but he was not easily subdued.

He was, people started saying, acting like a zombie. And the whole discussion just kept growing, becoming a topic that the Internet couldn't seem to stop talking about.

The actual incidents are horrifying - and, if how people are talking about them is any indication, fascinating. In an America where zombie imagery is used to peddle everything from tools and weapons to garden gnomes, they all but beg the comparison.

Violence, we're used to. Cannibalism and people who should fall down but don't? That feels like something else entirely.

So many strange things have made headlines in recent days that The Daily Beast assembled a Google Map tracking "instances that may be the precursor to a zombie apocalypse." And the federal agency that tracks diseases weighed in as well, insisting it had no evidence that any zombie-linked health crisis was unfolding.

The cases themselves are anything but funny. Each involved real people either suspected of committing unspeakable acts or having those acts visited upon them for reasons that have yet to be figured out. Maybe it's nothing new, either; people do horrible things to each other on a daily basis.

But what, then, made search terms like "zombie apocalypse" trend day after day last week in multiple corners of the Internet, fueled by discussions and postings that were often framed as humor?

"They've heard of these zombie movies, and they make a joke about it," says Lou Manza, a psychology professor at Lebanon Valley College in Pennsylvania, who learned about the whole thing at the breakfast table Friday morning when his 18-year-old son quipped that a "zombie apocalypse" was imminent.

Symbolic of both infection and evil, zombies are terrifying in a way that other horror-movie iconography isn't, says Elizabeth Bird, an anthropologist at the University of South Florida.

Zombies, after all, look like us. But they aren't. They are some baser form of us - slowly rotting and shambling along, intent on "surviving" and creating more of their kind, but with no emotional core, no conscience, no limits.

"Vampires have kind of a romantic appeal, but zombies are doomed," Bird says. "Zombies can never really become human again. There's no going back.

"That resonates in today's world, with people feeling like we're moving toward an ending," she says. "Ultimately they are much more of a depressing figure."

The "moving toward an ending" part is especially potent. For some, the news stories fuel a lurking fear that, ultimately, humanity is doomed.

Speculation varies. It could be a virus that escapes from some secret government lab, or one that mutates on its own. Or maybe it'll be the result of a deliberate combination and weaponization of pathogens, parasites and disease.

It will, many believe, be something we've created - and therefore brought upon ourselves.

Zombies represent America's fears of bioterrorism, a fear that strengthened after the 9/11 attacks, says Patrick Hamilton, an English professor at Misericordia University in Dallas, Pa., who studies how we process comic-book narratives.

Economic anxiety around the planet doesn't help matters, either, with Greece, Italy and Spain edging closer to crisis every day. Consider some of the terms that those fears produce: zombie banks, zombie economies, zombie governments.

When people are unsettled about things beyond their control - be it the loss of a job, the high cost of housing or the depletion of a retirement account - they look to metaphors like the zombie.

"They're mindless drones following basic needs to eat," Hamilton says. "Those economic issues speak to our own lack of control."

They're also effective messengers. The Centers for Disease Control got in on the zombie action last year, using the "apocalypse" as the teaser for its emergency preparedness blog. It worked, attracting younger people who might not otherwise have read the agency's guidance on planning evacuation routes and storing water and food.

On Friday, a different message emerged. Chatter had become so rampant that CDC spokesman David Daigle sent an email to the Huffington Post, answering questions about the possibility of the undead walking among us.

"CDC does not know of a virus or condition that would reanimate the dead," he wrote, adding: "(or one that would present zombie-like symptoms.)"

Zombies have been around in our culture at least since Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein" was published in 1818, though they really took off after George Romero's nightmarish, black-and-white classic "Night of the Living Dead" hit the screen in 1968.

In the past several years, they have become both wildly popular and big business. Last fall, the financial website 24/7 Wall Street estimated that zombies pumped $5 billion into the U.S. economy.

"And if you think the financial tab has been high so far, by the end of 2012 the tab is going to be far larger," the October report read.

It goes far beyond comic books, costumes and conventions.

-An Ace Hardware store in Nebraska features a "Zombie Preparedness Center" that includes bolts and fasteners for broken bones, glue and caulk for peeling skin, and deodorizers to freshen up decaying flesh. "Don't be scared," its website says. "Be prepared."

-On uncrate.com, you can find everything you need to survive the apocalypse - zombie-driven or otherwise - in a single "bug-out bag." The recommended components range from a Mossberg pump-action shotgun and a Cold Kukri machete to a titanium spork for spearing all the canned goods you'll end up eating once all the fresh produce has vanished.

-For $175 on Amazon, you can purchase a Gnombie, a gored-out zombie garden gnome.

Maybe it's that we joke about the things we fear. Laughter makes them manageable.

That's why a comedy like "Zombieland," with Woody Harrelson blasting away the undead on a roller coaster and Jesse Eisenberg stressing the importance of seatbelts is easier to watch than, say, the painful desperation and palpable apocalyptic fear of "28 Days Later" and "28 Weeks Later."

The most compelling zombie stories, after all, are not about the undead. They're about the living.

The popular AMC series "The Walking Dead" features zombies in all manner of settings. But the show is less about them and more about how far the small, battered band of humans will go to survive - whether they'll retain the better part of themselves or become hardened and heartless.

It's a familiar theme to George Romero, who told The Associated Press in 2008 that all of his zombie films have been about just that.

"The zombies, they could be anything," he said. "They could be an avalanche, they could be a hurricane. It's a disaster out there. The stories are about how people fail to respond in the proper way."

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(AP File Photo/Nati Harnik) In this Monday, Oct. 10, 2011 photo, a sign promoting zombie preparedness displays in a hardware store in Omaha, Nebraska. After several gory incidents that have been reported around the country recently, online zombie talk has grown.

trish
06-04-2012, 07:44 PM
Zombies, after all, look like us. But they aren't. They are some baser form of us - slowly rotting and shambling along, intent on "surviving" and creating more of their kind, but with no emotional core, no conscience, no limits.Another words, young republicans. It's not a virus, it's a meme :)

Genetic
06-05-2012, 01:12 AM
No, zombies are not taking over the US. This shit happens all the time, it just doesn't usually get this level of coverage.

onmyknees
06-05-2012, 01:43 AM
zombie

2 a. A person held to resemble the walking dead b. a will-less and speechless human capable of only automatic movement....


You wanna witness zombies? No need to go any further than over on the political boards...there's a dozen or so there available for scientific study.

trish
06-05-2012, 01:54 AM
omg omk is one!

onmyknees
06-05-2012, 02:09 AM
Can you find Trish's pic on the cover?

Ben
02-17-2014, 05:35 AM
Noam Chomsky Breaks Down the Zombie Apocalypse (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/16/1278055/-Noam-Chomsky-Breaks-Down-the-Zombie-Apocalypse)

Dino Velvet
02-17-2014, 05:32 PM
Round out your zombie knowledge with these films.

Trailer - White Zombie (1932) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOzgz1Ddmz8)

White Zombie (1932) Watch Full Movie - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JGItKPT8g)

The Plague of Zombies / Original Theatrical Trailer (1966) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwVqUyLWvEw)

The Plague of the Zombies (1966) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JGoZFGbB0M)

Ben
02-17-2014, 05:58 PM
Round out your zombie knowledge with these films.

Trailer - White Zombie (1932) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOzgz1Ddmz8)

White Zombie (1932) Watch Full Movie - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JGItKPT8g)

The Plague of Zombies / Original Theatrical Trailer (1966) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwVqUyLWvEw)

The Plague of the Zombies (1966) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JGoZFGbB0M)

And Romero's Zombie trilogy:

Night Of The Living Dead Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gUKvmOEGCU)

Dawn of the Dead (1978) - Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd-z5wBeFTU)

Day of the Dead Trailer (George A. Romero, 1985) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jDipJsip1Q)

nysprod
02-17-2014, 05:59 PM
IDK about "taking over" but yes, there definitely are zombies, even transgender ones...

Dino Velvet
02-17-2014, 06:03 PM
And Romero's Zombie trilogy:

Night Of The Living Dead Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gUKvmOEGCU)

Dawn of the Dead (1978) - Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd-z5wBeFTU)

Day of the Dead Trailer (George A. Romero, 1985) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jDipJsip1Q)

Make sure you see The Living Dead At Manchester Morgue AKA Let Sleeping Corpses Lie. Made after Night Of The Living Dead and before Dawn Of The Dead. Little slow at the start but a very creepy build-up and atmosphere.

The Living Dead at Manchester Morgue - Trailer - Blue Underground - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNMbzM21i5c)

Dino Velvet
02-17-2014, 06:05 PM
I recommend [REC] to everyone too. I liked [REC] 2 also but haven't caught the third one yet.

[REC] (2007) - Official Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJ_jPKOj1c)

trish
02-17-2014, 06:59 PM
Chomsky (see Ben’s post #7) sees the Zombie phenomenon as symptomatic of a culture wide paranoia. It’s true that Americans are plenty scared and always have been. During the cold war and the concomitant nuclear buildup our movies featured alien invasions and mutant monsters. Suspense and terror were the main elements, from Arnold’s It Came from Outer Space to Hitchcock’s The Birds.

However, today’s movie goers are hardened stoics. They are immune to suspense. They are gamers who like blowing things away. They adore anti-heros who can point a gun at someone’s head and blow it to smithereens. It doesn’t have to be zombies, but zombies do provide easy, ethics-free targets. Certainly the violence suppressed within that is expressed on film is a key factor behind the popularity of zombie movies.

I’m not disagreeing with Chomsky, because zombies do pose a threat. The fear is that of being turned. Americans aren’t afraid of being killed and eaten. They aren’t afraid of invasion and occupation, or even of being forced to serve their overlords as slaves. They’re afraid that they themselves will be changed in some fundamental way. They already harbor doubts about, sexuality, God, guns, capitalism, climate change etc. They perceive music as threatening, clothes as threatening; and they shoot each other. They are beginning to doubt the legitimacy of their own hegemony. They fear change; but not simply change: they sense a change in their own opinions, their own minds. This is the fear, I think, that boils beneath the zombie genre.

Of course vampires are all about sex :)

Dino Velvet
02-17-2014, 07:04 PM
Of course vampires are all about sex :)

Sex, domination, mind-control, eternal life/eternal suffering forced to live forever watching loved ones die, more shit too...

http://www.thecherryblossomgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Bela-Lugosi-Dracula.gif

trish
02-17-2014, 07:20 PM
Being glamoured by a vampire and subsequently penetrated (in nineteenth century gothic novels it had to be fangs not a penis) is a guilt free fantasy. No free-will, just submission to your desires, for ever after. That's good Victorian masturbation material.

Dino Velvet
02-17-2014, 07:29 PM
Being glamoured by a vampire and subsequently penetrated (in nineteenth century gothic novels it had to be fangs not a penis) is a guilt free fantasy. No free-will, just submission to your desires, for ever after. That's good Victorian masturbation material.

No consent either as long as I can be locked up for using a bottle to put a gal under a spell.

nysprod
02-17-2014, 08:14 PM
Sex, domination, mind-control, eternal life/eternal suffering forced to live forever watching loved ones die, more shit too...



I think it was so brilliant they casted an actor like Lugosi to be Dracula...the sexuality took horror to a whole new level tying horror and fear with desire.

nysprod
02-17-2014, 08:15 PM
Sex, domination, mind-control, eternal life/eternal suffering forced to live forever watching loved ones die, more shit too...



I think it was so brilliant they casted an actor like Lugosi to be Dracula...the sexuality took the genre to a whole new level tying horror and fear with desire.

Dino Velvet
02-17-2014, 08:18 PM
I think it was so brilliant they casted an actor like Lugosi to be Dracula...the sexuality took horror to a whole new level tying horror and fear with desire.

Christopher Lee had the eyes of a power-rapist. He's 6'5'' also. Demonic.

http://serendipity3864.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/taste2gr.jpg
"I will ass-rape you in your cunt."

Dino Velvet
02-17-2014, 08:27 PM
I think it was so brilliant they casted an actor like Lugosi to be Dracula...the sexuality took horror to a whole new level tying horror and fear with desire.

Lon Chaney Sr was originally going to team up with old buddy Tod Browning to play Dracula but his health wouldn't allow it. Watch Chaney in London After Midnight and picture him as The Count. I liked Lugosi in the role but Chaney was an incredible actor.

London After Midnight (1927) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt_-JiBmKZ0)

Lon Chaney: A Thousand Faces (2000) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP0_zUT0tFU)

Dino Velvet
02-17-2014, 08:32 PM
Sort of on-topic but for fans of Lugosi and Karloff I recommend The Body Snatcher. Karloff was bone-chilling. Karloff was another good actor. Watch him in The Mummy. The Ghoul is another one.

Boris Karloff and Bela Lugosi in "Body Snatcher" (1945) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjtxN623-gI)

Ben
02-18-2014, 03:53 AM
Chomsky (see Ben’s post #7) sees the Zombie phenomenon as symptomatic of a culture wide paranoia. It’s true that Americans are plenty scared and always have been. During the cold war and the concomitant nuclear buildup our movies featured alien invasions and mutant monsters. Suspense and terror were the main elements, from Arnold’s It Came from Outer Space to Hitchcock’s The Birds.

However, today’s movie goers are hardened stoics. They are immune to suspense. They are gamers who like blowing things away. They adore anti-heros who can point a gun at someone’s head and blow it to smithereens. It doesn’t have to be zombies, but zombies do provide easy, ethics-free targets. Certainly the violence suppressed within that is expressed on film is a key factor behind the popularity of zombie movies.

I’m not disagreeing with Chomsky, because zombies do pose a threat. The fear is that of being turned. Americans aren’t afraid of being killed and eaten. They aren’t afraid of invasion and occupation, or even of being forced to serve their overlords as slaves. They’re afraid that they themselves will be changed in some fundamental way. They already harbor doubts about, sexuality, God, guns, capitalism, climate change etc. They perceive music as threatening, clothes as threatening; and they shoot each other. They are beginning to doubt the legitimacy of their own hegemony. They fear change; but not simply change: they sense a change in their own opinions, their own minds. This is the fear, I think, that boils beneath the zombie genre.

Of course vampires are all about sex :)

And -- :)

Language Design - Noam Chomsky:

Language Design - Noam Chomsky - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLk47AMBdTA)

Genetic
02-19-2014, 05:22 AM
I think Chomsky is off the mark.

Zombies represent the very primal fear of death - you can run, you can hide, you can fight but slowly it inches up on you and inevitably you will be caught. Romero always said that the zombies would always win because of numbers and how every loss on the survivor side adds one to the zombie side.

In terms of the current fascination, well it's cyclical. Nuclear war was the big fear of the 70s, 80s brought us robots and aliens, early 90s was all about diseases; late 90s were natural disasters, then the early 2000s brought us the fascination with natural disasters on a bigger scale (asteroids, gulf stream, climate change) and then the late 2000s to now is zombies. People simply have a morbid fascination with worst case scenarios and how they'd deal with them; it's escapism. Escapism is why the TV came about, then the Video player, then the walkman, then the mobile phone - we don't want to interact with the world because it brings us misery, so we lock ourselves in our fantasy world.

You see it in public transport where no one acknowledges each other, hell the zombie apocalypse is here already - it's everyone walking round listening to their iPods while using smartphones to ignore the world.




I recommend [REC] to everyone too. I liked [REC] 2 also but haven't caught the third one yet.

[REC] (2007) - Official Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJ_jPKOj1c)


[REC] 3 is truly awful and best not watched so the first two remain unsullied.

Dino Velvet
02-19-2014, 05:33 AM
[REC] 3 is truly awful and best not watched so the first two remain unsullied.

Thanks. I'll just watch it with low expectations. I didn't let Henry 2: Mask Of Sanity ruin Henry, Portrait Of A Serial Killer. I've seen Mask Of Sanity a couple times as a goof after the first viewing. Just made sure to stop by the liquor store first.

trish
02-19-2014, 07:12 AM
Zombies represent the very primal fear of death But zombies aren't really dead and they don't kill. They transform.

fred41
02-19-2014, 07:17 AM
I would be a zombie of the as s eating kind...:)

francisfkudrow
02-19-2014, 07:32 AM
i would be a zombie of the as s eating kind...:)

Aaaasssses! Aaaasssses!

trish
02-19-2014, 07:36 AM
bite my ass

robertlouis
02-19-2014, 07:42 AM
bite my ass

That may be the most you've ever tantalised us, Ms Trish. Very tasty.

fred41
02-19-2014, 07:48 AM
bite my ass


Oh I'd be munching up that beautiful thing with gusto!!...




....respectfully of course.

trish
02-19-2014, 07:57 AM
sleeeeeep....must have sleeeeeeep...and dream about you guys biting my ass. night all. sweet kisses.

robertlouis
02-19-2014, 08:12 AM
sleeeeeep....must have sleeeeeeep...and dream about you guys biting my ass. night all. sweet kisses.

Funnily enough, that's just what I was hoping to dream about too. :dancing:

Sweet dreams ma'am.

youngblood61
02-20-2014, 03:57 AM
bite my assWouldn't mind poking that ass Trish.:)

Dino Velvet
02-20-2014, 04:01 AM
bite my ass

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=691139&stc=1&d=1392788166

Your actual ass is much nicer than that. The next time you show your ass around here do it with a photograph.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/asfix/repository/8a250aae2886f3560128880fe6b60006/thumbnail_2352210273085061754.jpg
"Urine good health."

TatianaSummer
02-20-2014, 07:19 AM
I think its a mutation on some 7HC humans. The thing is, zombies in the sense of dead people coming back to life are not possible. However, very alive people who exhibit a zombie-like state is possible. It would have to be caused by a very specific virus, and that virus would have to enter through our noses since our noses lead to the part of the brain which would have to be affected in order for us to transform into super hungry brain dead beings who don’t recognize friends or family. These parasites constitute of a substance known as 7GC so the human brain in the 7HC species of humans recognize it as friend instead of foe and allows the virus to take over control of the body. Its a bit complicated but if you want more details I can do a whole article on this.