30 and counting

[SFTB]

30 kids and counting. Can't support them, and has no intention of stopping. You can bring up the Duggars, and I think they are nuts myself, but they are at least raising the kids and schooling them. Who is paying this guy's kids bills? He makes minimum wage. His child support checks after being divided are less than $2.

He's asking the courts for a break from paying so much support. Should a deal be made? I mean is asking him to get a vasectomy in exchange for a break on child support out of the question? ( I know, never happen legally)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-fathered-30-kids-needs-break-child-support-140439765.html

[GroobySteven]

You should need a license to have a child.

[lifeisfiction]

Condoms will save you tons of money and headaches. They may not feel as good, but you can sleep easier.

[suave]

Just fuck Transsexuals they're sexier and they cant get pregnant. Win Win!

[FreddieGomez]

he gives brothaz a bad name

[theoryman]

Give him the support... if he is de-balled first.

Else, just lake any other deadbeat dad, slap him in the lockup.

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[Dino Velvet]

Can't they harvest his organs and drain his blood? What's the balance after that? Charge admission to draw and quarter the motherfucker if he still owes.

[bluesoul]

if he was in to trannies, this wouldn't have happened, and grooby and the escorts could've used that money to further their enterprises.

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[Stavros]

He may be short by 10 but it happens here as well, but as he is from Wales I don't expect the USA to get excited about it; and yes, he is also on welfare.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/5325648.stm


yourdaddy tried to start a thread on this topic some days ago but couldn't find any takers.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=66924

[robertlouis]

Give him the support... if he is de-balled first.

Else, just lake any other deadbeat dad, slap him in the lockup.

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I take it you're not serious. And if you did, that would cost more than welfare.

Mind you, at least his partner would get a rest....

[robertlouis]

He may be short by 10 but it happens here as well, but as he is from Wales I don't expect the USA to get excited about it; and yes, he is also on welfare.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/5325648.stm




Good to get a sex story from Wales that doesn't involve sheep..... :dancing:

[TSMichelleAustin]

He should of snipped himself years ago! After 20 kids! I love this line off Survivor this season from gay guy Colton "Im republican, I dont believe in free hand outs!" I am not republican but I agree with that... he couldnt afford the first few he should of wrapped his dick or got himself fixed! But of course every black guy I have met try to not wear condom cuz they say it kills their dick.... well go get fixed or make sure the girl is on birth control! LOL Gotta pay for your kids or go to jail thats what happens to other dead beat dads!

[SFTB]

I take it you're not serious. And if you did, that would cost more than welfare.

Mind you, at least his partner would get a rest....

Partners as in 11 different Moms. Not saying they're all on assistance, but let's be absolutely ridiculously fair and say half are on assistance. Thats 5 families this man has created that are on Section 8 housing, and around 15 kids the state will be providing support for until they are 18.

[GrimFusion]

This is a two-fold issue. The guy works a minimum wage job. If it's not on his own accord; if he doesn't prefer it that way, I'm sure somebody could step-up and offer him a job opportunity that isn't far beyond his skills. Knowing how most other shady fathers operate, he's probably working that miniumum wage job to minimize the amount of money he's being garnished. It may be ridiculous that the dude has 30 kids, but if he honestly wants to take care of them, why postulate throwing him behind bars or adoption? That's counter-productive and costly.

If he doesn't want to take care of them or can't realistically strive to meet their needs, forced sterilization is illegal; but that hasn't kept our government from funding public sterilization projects pre-1970. If he gets a good lawyer, he could just claim he's Mormon and avoid any restitution dues for fathering children he knowingly couldn't raise. He'll likely just see most of his children removed and either placed in full custody of the mother's with visitation rights, or become custody of the state. He may go to jail for being in the rears on child support payments, but it's doubtful any judge would separate him from all 30 of his children. I'd postulate he'd probably be put on long term probation and have his garnishments reassessed.

[SFTB]

This is a two-fold issue. The guy works a minimum wage job. If it's not on his own accord; if he doesn't prefer it that way, I'm sure somebody could step-up and offer him a job opportunity that isn't far beyond his skills. Knowing how most other shady fathers operate, he's probably working that miniumum wage job to minimize the amount of money he's being garnished. It may be ridiculous that the dude has 30 kids, but if he honestly wants to take care of them, why postulate throwing him behind bars or adoption? That's counter-productive and costly.

If he doesn't want to take care of them or can't realistically strive to meet their needs, forced sterilization is illegal; but that hasn't kept our government from funding public sterilization projects pre-1970. If he gets a good lawyer, he could just claim he's Mormon and avoid any restitution dues for fathering children he knowingly couldn't raise. He'll likely just see most of his children removed and either placed in full custody of the mother's with visitation rights, or become custody of the state. He may go to jail for being in the rears on child support payments, but it's doubtful any judge would separate him from all 30 of his children. I'd postulate he'd probably be put on long term probation and have his garnishments reassessed.

Or he could use condoms

[LibertyHarkness]

sterilise the twat and be done with it .

[GrimFusion]

This is the kind of shit that happens when community living completely disappears. Before the 1960's, neighbors were involved with each other. They'd look out of one another, and if somebody stepped out of line or outside of the accepted norm, they'd get approached. Transactions were as much about your social standing with the seller as they were the actual currency transaction.

Unfortunately, community living doesn't lend very well to individuality. There's no line between ostracizing someone for fathering 30 kids with 11 women, and denying someone goods and services because they're gay or black. If you can't find a niche with a group of like-minded people, you're just fucked.

That's why I don't understand why everybody's getting mad at this guy for having 30 kids. Society ditched the idea of community living a long time ago, so why complain if you enjoy your individuality? Bring back the system that keeps these kind of crazies from going over the edge, and you'll need to learn how to closet most of your individualism.

[SFTB]

This is the kind of shit that happens when community living completely disappears. Before the 1960's, neighbors were involved with each other. They'd look out of one another, and if somebody stepped out of line or outside of the accepted norm, they'd get approached. Transactions were as much about your social standing with the seller as they were the actual currency transaction.

Unfortunately, community living doesn't lend very well to individuality. There's no line between ostracizing someone for fathering 30 kids with 11 women, and denying someone goods and services because they're gay or black. If you can't find a niche with a group of like-minded people, you're just fucked.

That's why I don't understand why everybody's getting mad at this guy for having 30 kids. Society ditched the idea of community living a long time ago, so why complain if you enjoy your individuality? Bring back the system that keeps these kind of crazies from going over the edge, and you'll need to learn how to closet most of your individualism.

I kinda figured that even as extreme a case as this guy is, some super liberal would come out for him. Dude, ditch all that community hugging it takes a village to raise a kid stuff.

Its called personal responsibility. If he was trying his best to provide for them then I could cut him a little slack., but the article was about him going to court to have his child support payments cut.

[Stavros]

SFTB you have missed something: the difference between society as it is, and society as you would like it to be. There are people out there whose attention span can be measured in hours; they have no idea what planning is because they never do it. There have always been people like him around, and always will be, how they ever get a woman to sleep with them in the first place is another question. But if the key argument -advanced by Charles Murray- is that the welfare systems not only maintain people like him, but encourage them not to act responsibly, what happens when you take it all away? Those who deserve it get the same nothing as those who don't, and it doesn't deal with the dysfunctional way of living that leads men and women to have serial and temporary 'relationships' that produce children who become a burden because nobody in the 'family' works. In the end, you are faced with trying to deal with people who don't fit in the 'normal' structure of daily life, they exist everywhere, regardless of the welfare system. It would be like someone arguing there are too many transexuals seeking surgery paid for by the taxpayer -its available on the NHS here-but if you ended it and said, 'pay for it yourself', that would not lead to a decline in transexuals.

[Christastic]

This is just a symptom of a fucked up society. Is he to blame? yeah. But then so is everybody else.

[GrimFusion]

I kinda figured that even as extreme a case as this guy is, some super liberal would come out for him. Dude, ditch all that community hugging it takes a village to raise a kid stuff.

Its called personal responsibility. If he was trying his best to provide for them then I could cut him a little slack., but the article was about him going to court to have his child support payments cut.

I'm a stoner, man. Shit just slips out sometimes. My only gripe is that it seems nobody is accountable to each other anymore. Personal responsibility clearly isn't cutting it when a dude can father 30 kids and none of his family, friends, baby-mamas, or neighbors get involved to confront the dipshit about his actions. The first course of action shouldn't be a court case or custody battle. That should be the last course of action. I just think it's a little sad he was able to bust out 30 kids before anybody got around to doing anything about it.

[GOLDENBEAR]

I kinda figured that even as extreme a case as this guy is, some super liberal would come out for him. Dude, ditch all that community hugging it takes a village to raise a kid stuff.

Its called personal responsibility. If he was trying his best to provide for them then I could cut him a little slack., but the article was about him going to court to have his child support payments cut.

I'll cut him a little slack for his low IQ. I would cut him zero slack for his behavior whether he were making an honest effort to provide for the kids or not. His behavior harms society more than most criminals, as did the behavior of the Mothers who are equally culpable.

[GOLDENBEAR]

This is just a symptom of a fucked up society. Is he to blame? yeah. But then so is everybody else.

Society always has been fucked up; always will be fucked up; and is less fucked up now in many regards than it has been in the past. It is what it is.

But I fail to see how "everyone" is to blame for these thirty children, except to the extent that the behavior is not only tolerated but protected. Considering the high regard this society places on child welfare, it would not be unreasonable to forcibly sterilize indigents who continue to procreate, beyond, say, two children. The only other options are to let the children suffer horribly for the irresponsibility of their parents or to force you and me to support those children. I'll take option number one.

[Jericho]

Fuck it, do the same as the Chinese.
Allow one per couple, then eat the rest!

[maxpower]

Fuck it, do the same as the Chinese.
Allow one per couple, then eat the rest!


Does that come with eggroll?

[Dino Velvet]

Fuck it, do the same as the Chinese.
Allow one per couple, then eat the rest!

I'll fuck the ones you find too unappetizing to consume. They will eventually end up on my dinner table too.

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[Helvis2012]

That's whacked.