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Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 06:05 PM
I always thought that they whole point of being a female was being the taker sex wise..I never saw the point in TS that will not Bottom..Just trying to figure this out...I am a strict top with TS and some of my favorite TS I have not had the chance to be with sexually.

luv4Tgirls
05-14-2012, 06:10 PM
Agreed, I think that TS Jesse is mostly a top

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 06:13 PM
Agreed, I think that TS Jesse is mostly a top

Yes..I like to TS as females and love fucking them..It's very erotic..Nothing against tops..Just wondering about that type of mind set?

jamesedwards
05-14-2012, 06:13 PM
Well Marty, a TGirl is not going to stick to one rule this is everyday life, if you think that there are one million TGirls and think they all suppose to bottom and not do anything else, then your perception is wrong. Remember TGirls have cocks, cocks love to be stimulated, some are bottoms and that's it, some are tops and that's it some are both bottom and tops, some only fuck guys some fuck only women some fuck both women and men, the variety is going to be far out there not just one rule.

There are women that fuck men in the ass with strapons, if they have this desire are they not to live it out because they are women? If the guy lets them and they got the strapon they are going to fuck.

There is no one rule or box to stay in, a TGirl can still be a TGirl even if she tops.

Me, I love an all around TGirl, who can do it all and she is nasty as a motha fucka, nothing against a bottom only TGirl but she has her rights and I have mine and I love me a TGirl that can top and bottom, it makes out for more fun for me.

Quiet Reflections
05-14-2012, 06:14 PM
Being a TG has nothing to do with a persons sexual role. It seems to me that the only people that share this view with you are the type of people that see TG's as sex objects or props for their fetish.

Wendy Summers
05-14-2012, 06:17 PM
Being a TG has nothing to do with a persons sexual role. It seems to me that the only people that share this view with you are the type of people that see TG's as sex objects or props for their fetish.

We're not? :dancing:

Quiet Reflections
05-14-2012, 06:19 PM
We're not? :dancing:
what you do is not who you are.

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 06:19 PM
Being a TG has nothing to do with a persons sexual role. It seems to me that the only people that share this view with you are the type of people that see TG's as sex objects or props for their fetish.

Not true..I have dated TS in my personal life as well as escorts..I just do not understand becoming a woman and still wanting to be on top strictly..I am not talking about vers TS only the total tops...It's very weird to me..If you look like a female I would guess that you would wanna get fucked like one...I understand some Vers TS still wanna use their dicks and that is fine..But a total top?That is the mans role now matter how you swing it.Fact of nature.

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 06:21 PM
Well Marty, a TGirl is not going to stick to one rule this is everyday life, if you think that there are one million TGirls and think they all suppose to bottom and not do anything else, then your perception is wrong. Remember TGirls have cocks, cocks love to be stimulated, some are bottoms and that's it, some are tops and that's it some are both bottom and tops, some only fuck guys some fuck only women some fuck both women and men, the variety is going to be far out there not just one rule.

There are women that fuck men in the ass with strapons, if they have this desire are they not to live it out because they are women? If the guy lets them and they got the strapon they are going to fuck.

There is no one rule or box to stay in, a TGirl can still be a TGirl even if she tops.

Me, I love an all around TGirl, who can do it all and she is nasty as a motha fucka, nothing against a bottom only TGirl but she has her rights and I have mine and I love me a TGirl that can top and bottom, it makes out for more fun for me.

This all made a lot of sense to me...I want to make it clear that I am not knocking tops...I have had sessions with topazz and other tops and we kissed and had Oral...It's just that some strict top's I would love to fuck..Do the TS that escort as tops bottom in their private lives?

LibertyHarkness
05-14-2012, 06:23 PM
gender and sexuality have nothing in common .. when will people actually realise this ..jeez ... men have this really dumb habit of trying to sexualize it ... how you feel as a transwoman is within , not about what sex you enjoy .. its about your being as a human ..

look at straight, gay, lesbian, bi ...people enjoy different things..

Me personally i hate topping men pretty much , i have done it a few times in shoots in 4 years ... do it a few time with escorting as i take viagra and am getting paid to do it ... in my own life i am bottom or i only fuck women .

jamesedwards
05-14-2012, 06:23 PM
You have to understand an only Top TGirl is probably more Dominant in her nature and it's not about just looks it's her mind set, she can feel feminine yet behind closed doors she want to control, it's mental for her. She wants to live her life as a female yet she still wants to dominate.

Again there are women who are feminine out in the world but behind close doors, they want to dominate a man 100% she only wants to be in control and she never wants the man to control, that's who she is in her nature, and she fines a man compatible to who she is, she is not going to let a man dominate her, she is like an Alpha Woman sort to speak.


Not true..I have dated TS in my personal life as well as escorts..I just do not understand becoming a woman and still wanting to be on top strictly..I am not talking about vers TS only the total tops...It's very weird to me..If you look like a female I would guess that you would wanna get fucked like one...I understand some Vers TS still wanna use their dicks and that is fine..But a total top?That is the mans role now matter how you swing it.Fact of nature.

Quiet Reflections
05-14-2012, 06:27 PM
Not true..I have dated TS in my personal life as well as escorts..I just do not understand becoming a woman and still wanting to be on top strictly..I am not talking about vers TS only the total tops...It's very weird to me..If you look like a female I would guess that you would wanna get fucked like one...I understand some Vers TS still wanna use their dicks and that is fine..But a total top?That is the mans role now matter how you swing it.Fact of nature.
So you are saying that you believe that every MtF transitioned because of some sexual preference(top,bottom or otherwise) and not because of who they were inside?

Ecstatic
05-14-2012, 06:27 PM
Yes, there are girls who escort as tops who bottom in their "real" lives. For some, it's what they want to reserve for their lovers, not their clients. For others, it may be because you're apt to earn more as a top than as a bottom (more guys want to recieve than will ever admit it outside the bedroom). For still others, there's the point that, generally speaking, topping is safter than bottoming healthwise, and provides more control.

But regardless of all that, and more, the point is that transgenderism is about gender identity, not sexual orientation. Two different things. And as has been said, there are any number of variations on a theme, and expecting all tgirls to follow a single form is absurd.

jamesedwards
05-14-2012, 06:41 PM
Exactly, it would be boring as fuck. The more variations the more adventurous.




But regardless of all that, and more, the point is that transgenderism is about gender identity, not sexual orientation. Two different things. And as has been said, there are any number of variations on a theme, and expecting all tgirls to follow a single form is absurd.

Prospero
05-14-2012, 06:42 PM
People are all different. McFly - how then do you account for men who love to bottom? Surely by your rules they'd only want to top. Or genetic girls who love to be on top in heterosexual intercourse?

And as wiser souls than me have already said here - but I will say again as you're not getting it - the real issue is the sense of self. Who they are inside. It's not about what they do but who they are. As people. Not objects.

top4bigbutt
05-14-2012, 06:46 PM
gender and sexuality have nothing in common .. when will people actually realise this ..jeez ... men have this really dumb habit of trying to sexualize it ... how you feel as a transwoman is within , not about what sex you enjoy .. its about your being as a human ..

look at straight, gay, lesbian, bi ...people enjoy different things..

Me personally i hate topping men pretty much , i have done it a few times in shoots in 4 years ... do it a few time with escorting as i take viagra and am getting paid to do it ... in my own life i am bottom or i only fuck women .

Libby you are my kind of girl lol

Now I do understand the guy question,I found mysef in weird situations sometimes,when the girl ONLY tops....
And I also kmow for personal experience that if the girl is turned on by the guy, she will put her boundaries aside...Ts girls are not sexual machines always ready to take dick or with her hard wood ready to spread some guy ass, I guess in our society we are so used to immediate satisfaction, the fast food culture, with the push of a bottom in your smart phone you will get a hot tranny, there's an app for that

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 06:49 PM
So you are saying that you believe that every MtF transitioned because of some sexual preference(top,bottom or otherwise) and not because of who they were inside?

Well If the are a female inside I would think that they would wanna be fucked like one.I do not find that view to be strange at all actually..

Prospero
05-14-2012, 06:49 PM
with the push of a bottom (Freudian slip here surely) in your smart phone you will get a hot tranny, there's an app for that...

Give it a few years!

TsVanessa69
05-14-2012, 06:50 PM
we are born ts
thats our gender
top is a sexual preference

when will people stop and think first?

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 06:50 PM
gender and sexuality have nothing in common .. when will people actually realise this ..jeez ... men have this really dumb habit of trying to sexualize it ... how you feel as a transwoman is within , not about what sex you enjoy .. its about your being as a human ..

look at straight, gay, lesbian, bi ...people enjoy different things..

Me personally i hate topping men pretty much , i have done it a few times in shoots in 4 years ... do it a few time with escorting as i take viagra and am getting paid to do it ... in my own life i am bottom or i only fuck women .

Very Nice.You are a Cutie..I love white TS..In the Past only latin TS were normally Hot..These day's there are a ton of Hot white TS..

Arrowny
05-14-2012, 06:52 PM
Well If the are a female inside I would think that they would wanna be fucked like one.I do not find that view to be strange at all actually..

But some girls like to fuck guys.

TsVanessa69
05-14-2012, 06:52 PM
Well If the are a female inside I would think that they would wanna be fucked like one.I do not find that view to be strange at all actually..
as a transexual we are a mix of male and female
but either way being a top or a bottom is not an obligation on our part.

you guys are so demanding on ts, we have to be passable, we have to look a certain way, have certain features you guys want and now we have to follow a pattern on how you guys want us to fuck, whats next, you gonna tell us what to eat and wear?

Nikka
05-14-2012, 06:53 PM
girls who only top? those girls are cunts

Wendy Summers
05-14-2012, 06:55 PM
you guys are so demanding on ts, we have to be passable, we have to look a certain way, have certain features you guys want and now we have to follow a pattern on how you guys want us to fuck, whats next, you gonna tell us what to eat and wear?


As consumers of our "products" they do kind of have that right. :hide-1:

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 06:56 PM
As consumers of our "products" they do kind of have that right. :hide-1:

True.The customer is always right LOL..

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 06:57 PM
girls who only top? those girls are cunts

HAHA...I wont go that far...I just try to avoid them that's all..

top4bigbutt
05-14-2012, 06:57 PM
with the push of a bottom (Freudian slip here surely) in your smart phone you will get a hot tranny, there's an app for that...

Give it a few years!

Ha ha sorry for misspellings, english is my 3rd language
,but it come out good thought lol
Be safe

BluegrassCat
05-14-2012, 07:56 PM
Some people just can't accommodate butt sex - they're not built for it, it doesn't feel good. Plenty of straight women find vaginal intercourse uncomfortable and, despite being female, don't like getting fucked. Same for some tgirls. It has nothing to do with how "womanly" they are.

jamesedwards
05-14-2012, 08:00 PM
:dead: LOL you can stay tune for a thread about that watch lol

Vanessa now you know if a guy say he likes to see you in a corset you know you are going to find one as quick as possible and squeeze your fine ass in it and do some serious fucking lol And you gotta eat right and not use a lot of sugar because you know we menz that like golden showers love that clear piss lol hahahah



as a transexual we are a mix of male and female
but either way being a top or a bottom is not an obligation on our part.

you guys are so demanding on ts, we have to be passable, we have to look a certain way, have certain features you guys want and now we have to follow a pattern on how you guys want us to fuck, whats next, you gonna tell us what to eat and wear?

Ecstatic
05-14-2012, 08:18 PM
with the push of a bottom in your smart phone you will get a hot tranny, there's an app for that

ROTFLOL! This made me laugh twice: "there's an app for that"--brilliant. And "with the push of a bottom"--best Freudian slip of the year!

SammiValentine
05-14-2012, 08:19 PM
its the way you tell them ;-)

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 08:22 PM
with the push of a bottom (Freudian slip here surely) in your smart phone you will get a hot tranny, there's an app for that...

Give it a few years!

Haha It seems like there is an App for that since all of our favorite TS can be ours with only a Phone call away :)

KittyPride
05-14-2012, 08:23 PM
Not true..I have dated TS in my personal life as well as escorts..I just do not understand becoming a woman and still wanting to be on top strictly..I am not talking about vers TS only the total tops...It's very weird to me..If you look like a female I would guess that you would wanna get fucked like one...I understand some Vers TS still wanna use their dicks and that is fine..But a total top?That is the mans role now matter how you swing it.Fact of nature.

Marty you are right it does not make sense...
Anyone that is a woman at heart will bottom...

In my opinion its just that a lot of men also claim to be woman but in fact aren't...
This happens a lot with TS...

Even those that get SRS... A lot of them also are like men on the inside.

Its confusing.

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 08:29 PM
I dated a SrS TS a few years back we were together for over a year and the funny thing was that she still enjoyed Anal sex over vaginal..She loved it up the ass..She said she was always a bottom even when she had her penis..She said she found Anal to be more intense..At Least mention in Add's if you are only a Top..Some TS write Vers in adds and then when you show up you can not fuck them..This happened to me once years ago.With TS Mia serling or sterling..Something like that...That was a horrible situation between that and the fact that she had a friend hiding in the bathroom...This is another thing that has been pissing me off with this new Era of TS providers..Half of them keep friends hiding in the Bathroom and then offer you a 3some when you get there or what ever Lol..It's so ghetto...You show up and wanna wash up or take a leak after traveling in and then there is some Low life sitting on the toliet..Whats up with that?

jamesedwards
05-14-2012, 08:33 PM
Marty you are right it does not make sense...
Anyone that is a woman at heart will bottom...

In my opinion its just that a lot of men also claim to be woman but in fact aren't...
This happens a lot with TS...

Even those that get SRS... A lot of them also are like men on the inside.

Its confusing.

It's not confusing you're making it confusing, because you don't wanna accept VARIETY among them. Again if you think every TGirl in the world should be a bottom then ummmmm you gotta get evaluated!!!

BigBlackMan
05-14-2012, 08:36 PM
They will do anything for cash!

jamesedwards
05-14-2012, 08:36 PM
.This is another thing that has been pissing me off with this new Era of TS providers..Half of them keep friends hiding in the Bathroom and then offer you a 3some when you get there or what ever Lol..It's so ghetto...You show up and wanna wash up or take a leak after traveling in and then there is some Low life sitting on the toliet..Whats up with that?

OH MY FUCKING GAWD OHHHHHHHHH IM IN TEARS LAUGHING HELP ME OHHHHHHHH SHIT LOL HAHAHAH:dead::dead::dead: OH FUCK LOL :dead:LOL PLEASE MAKE HIM STOP LOL OH SHIT :dead: CALL 911 I AM GOING IN TO CARDIAC ARREST LOL HAHAHAHAH MY HEART AND MY LUNGS OH SHIT I CAN'T SEE LOL HAHAHAH FUCKING CLASSIC LO LHAHAHAH:dead::dead::dead::dead:

JAMES <<<<<<I'M FUCKING DIED LOL HAHAHAH lol hahah

jamesedwards
05-14-2012, 08:37 PM
Marty take your ass that way >>>>>>>>> hang left lol you just fucked me up. lol I spit juice on my dam keyboard lol hahahaha

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 08:54 PM
Marty take your ass that way >>>>>>>>> hang left lol you just fucked me up. lol I spit juice on my dam keyboard lol hahahaha

No seriously..This happens a lot..I review on other boards and have noticed that this has been a big issue with Ts reviews lately..The book a hotel together when on tour but instead of having the common sense to send the friend out during a session they hide the friend in the Bathroom..This is more and more common place now..

jamesedwards
05-14-2012, 08:57 PM
Oh dam You're in NYC too lol

Oh well I can stick to my couple of TGirls and GG's where I trust and we just fuck off the wall.

Now if I am fucking Paris Pirelli and she hides Natasia Coxx in the bathroom, fuck that WE FUCKING RIGHT THERE IN THE BATHROOM CUM AND ALL !!! :dead:

Was the friend to your liking?


No seriously..This happens a lot..I review on other boards and have noticed that this has been a big issue with Ts reviews lately..The book a hotel together when on tour but instead of having the common sense to send the friend out during a session they hide the friend in the Bathroom..This is more and more common place now..

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 09:09 PM
LOL it don't matter is she was to my liking I do not do 3somes..I like one on one and do not like an extra person in the room listening...Yes I am in NY :)

texasaggie
05-14-2012, 09:50 PM
As with all things, there is a prism-spectrum effect on this. We all like what we like, at the end of the day. Some of the lovely ladies on here top, some don't, some switch - it is just a preference. Not a big deal, just a preference.

jamiethewild
05-14-2012, 09:52 PM
LOL it don't matter is she was to my liking I do not do 3somes..I like one on one and do not like an extra person in the room listening...Yes I am in NY :)

OMG your my type . lol i don't like treesomes either because i get very jeoulous and feel like am competing with the other girl because i want all the attention for me from the men , i am an escort in escorting i only see men but i have to be versatile because of money but in my personal life i just bottom let just say when am out in a normal life i attract normal men no cocksuckers bottom bitches UGGGHHH !!!

But i have to come in terms , you have to respect other peoples desires and preferences even thou you might not be open to what their open and because am a straight girl sometimes i tend to judge it pretty bad , i guess my family always thought me the old tradition and that way feels better and comfortable than todays preferences !

Marty Mcfly
05-14-2012, 10:17 PM
OMG your my type . lol i don't like treesomes either because i get very jeoulous and feel like am competing with the other girl because i want all the attention for me from the men , i am an escort in escorting i only see men but i have to be versatile because of money but in my personal life i just bottom let just say when am out in a normal life i attract normal men no cocksuckers bottom bitches UGGGHHH !!!

But i have to come in terms , you have to respect other peoples desires and preferences even thou you might not be open to what their open and because am a straight girl sometimes i tend to judge it pretty bad , i guess my family always thought me the old tradition and that way feels better and comfortable than todays preferences !
Yes.You wanna feel like a Woman.That is Normal as I see it.I like my TS to act like woman in and out of the Bedroom.

south ov da border
05-14-2012, 10:41 PM
people do what they want to, doesn't matter the gender, some people just like to fuck and some like to take. Period...

FreddieGomez
05-15-2012, 12:35 AM
it's always the bottoms trying to justify WHY

Helvis2012
05-15-2012, 12:47 AM
It's complicated.

Marty Mcfly
05-15-2012, 12:48 AM
it's always the bottoms trying to justify WHY

Yes.I could see that.LOL

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 01:25 AM
LOL it don't matter is she was to my liking I do not do 3somes..I like one on one and do not like an extra person in the room listening...Yes I am in NY :)

WTF YOU DON'T LIKE 3SUMS? Oh well ummm that's your choice. pppppppsssssssstttttt Hey Marty Mar, ummm if the third wheel looks like this beautiful slut send her my way and I will fuck the shit outta her !!! :dead:

http://img1.imagehousing.com/26/ecee6116574008e6a918ddf5c8b4e160.jpg (http://www.imagehousing.com/image/1015303)

Marty Mcfly
05-15-2012, 01:29 AM
WTF YOU DON'T LIKE 3SUMS? Oh well ummm that's your choice. pppppppsssssssstttttt Hey Marty Mar, ummm if the third wheel looks like this beautiful slut send her my way and I will fuck the shit outta her !!! :dead:

http://img1.imagehousing.com/26/ecee6116574008e6a918ddf5c8b4e160.jpg (http://www.imagehousing.com/image/1015303)

I like to concentrate One on one :) I had a couple of 3somes in My early 20's with GG's and it was not all it is cracked up to be..

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 01:51 AM
Exactly, that's the reality. There is no one way to do anything.


As with all things, there is a prism-spectrum effect on this. We all like what we like, at the end of the day. Some of the lovely ladies on here top, some don't, some switch - it is just a preference. Not a big deal, just a preference.

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 01:53 AM
Some of these comments on guys being bottoms etc are fucking idiotic I tell you!!!

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 01:55 AM
Yes.You wanna feel like a Woman.That is Normal as I see it.I like my TS to act like woman in and out of the Bedroom.

So let me get this, to you if a TGirl only tops and she looks like a passable woman, she's not a woman to you? What does her sexual preference have to do with how she feels and how she wants to look like?

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 01:57 AM
it's always the bottoms trying to justify WHY

And it's always the top guys who try to justify the whole TGirl realm into being bottoms only I WONDER THE FUCK WHY?

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 01:58 AM
I like to concentrate One on one :) I had a couple of 3somes in My early 20's with GG's and it was not all it is cracked up to be..

But you never had a 3sum with two TGirls ;)

Marty Mcfly
05-15-2012, 01:58 AM
So let me get this, to you if a TGirl only tops and she looks like a passable woman, she's not a woman to you? What does her sexual preference have to do with how she feels and how she wants to look like?

Because Since the beginning of time.Men have fucked and females have been fucked..If A Tgirl only tops I can not view her has a female.She is still in the mans role in life.

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 02:00 AM
Because Since the beginning of time.Men have fucked and females have been fucked..If A Tgirl only tops I can not view her has a female.She is still in the mans role in life.

Oh ok, now I see what you're saying. Ok, cool, WHY NOT JUST GET A GG!!! That would solve all your wondering and confusion.
It's not what or how you view her it's how she views herself and what she wants.
So what do you call a woman fucking a man in his ass with a strapon and she loves to do it?

*CAN'T WAIT FOR HIS ANSWER ON THAT ONE*

robertlouis
05-15-2012, 02:02 AM
Marty, you've explained in the course of this thread what you like and why you like it. I'm a top too and prefer a girl who is as fem as possible, but it doesn't mean that I can't appreciate or understand that there are as many variations of sexual preference as there are people on the planet. People like what they like, the same as you.

Marty Mcfly
05-15-2012, 02:04 AM
Oh ok, now I see what you're saying. Ok, cool, WHY NOT JUST GET A GG!!! That would solve all your wondering and confusion. So what do you call a woman fucking a man in his ass with a strapon and she loves to do it?

*CAN'T WAIT FOR HIS ANSWER ON THAT ONE*

I love GG girls too..I just find TS girls to be very sexy and erotic..I call a woman fucking a man with a strapon a woman fucking a man with a strapon LOL

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 02:04 AM
Marty, you've explained in the course of this thread what you like and why you like it. I'm a top too and prefer a girl who is as fem as possible, but it doesn't mean that I can't appreciate or understand that there are as many variations of sexual preference as there are people on the planet. People like what they like, the same as you.

BAMMMMMMMMM DITTO!!!! :claps

Marty Mcfly
05-15-2012, 02:06 AM
I love GG girls too..I just find TS girls to be very sexy and erotic..I call a woman fucking a man with a strapon a woman fucking a man with a strapon LOL

This is just an aspect of the scene that I will never understand I guess.

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 02:10 AM
I love GG girls too..I just find TS girls to be very sexy and erotic..I call a woman fucking a man with a strapon a woman fucking a man with a strapon LOL

:shock:

Well alrighty then.
I too love GG's but I love the wild nasty freaky ass GG's that are switches or Dominants I have the most wildest fun with them.

You're brain work is working different from the majority that's your right, but THE REALITY IS, by your asking this question and your comments that's not going to change TGirls that like to top only.

The thing is with them they feel like a woman and they don't need the man's validation, and if she loves fucking men in the ass only and she don't like to get fucked that's her dominant side and that's her right and preference to do so, so you saying what you said won't change that, good topic but it's not happening, there's millions of TGirls and it would be dam near inevitable for all to just be bottoms cause of guys with your mind set. The REALITY IS IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 02:12 AM
This is just an aspect of the scene that I will never understand I guess.

LOL I guess you won't, hell when you answer your own post shit looks confusing lol hahha But on the real I feel you. But you have to realize a TGirl who tops is just as feminine as a TGirl that bottoms she's just in a different category that's all.

Marty Mcfly
05-15-2012, 02:13 AM
:shock:

Well alrighty then.
I too love GG's but I love the wild nasty freaky ass GG's that are switches or Dominants I have the most wildest fun with them.

You're brain work is working different from the majority that's your right, but THE REALITY IS, by your asking this question and your comments that's not going to change TGirls that like to top only.

The thing is with them they feel like a woman and they don't need the man's validation, and if she loves fucking men in the ass only and she don't like to get fucked that's her dominant side and that's her right and preference to do so, so you saying what you said won't change that, good topic but it's not happening, there's millions of TGirls and it would be dam near inevitable for all to just be bottoms cause of guys with your mind set. The REALITY IS IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

I know that and I will just stick to My TS bottom's..LOL

FreddieGomez
05-15-2012, 02:15 AM
how many transwomen admit to like being tops ?

robertlouis
05-15-2012, 02:16 AM
I know that and I will just stick to My TS bottom's..LOL

Marty, I'm aware of at least two girls here in the UK who have had SRS but prefer to top guys with a strap-on. It's a bit of a headfuck, but hey, if that's what they like, why should anyone else care?

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 02:18 AM
I know that and I will just stick to My TS bottom's..LOL

That's all, and I respect that, and for me I stick to those TGirls that like to bottom and top and they love doing that. I don't mess with bottoms and I don't mess with strictly tops but I wouldn't start a convo asking why this and why that about them. I got my variety so I am good. Now if All TGirls were tops then I would see your gripe as official but there is so much diversity I don't see the gripe valid. If a TGirl only wants to top that's her right and I respect that I won't try to change that and dam sure she don't try and change me either.

But I would take a top only over a bottom only if it came down to the two. :dancing:

jamiethewild
05-15-2012, 02:28 AM
;)
yes.you wanna feel like a woman.that is normal as i see it.i like my ts to act like woman in and out of the bedroom.

;)

nina_lisa
05-15-2012, 03:29 AM
Well If the are a female inside I would think that they would wanna be fucked like one.I do not find that view to be strange at all actually..

escorting world and real world are different things, outside escorts are there many top ts girls?

If you go to a forum like here, or forums about porn escorts etc... you get a lot of girl that say they are tops.

Go to some dating websites, many ts girls will complain that men interested in them are bottom, and how they are not interested into fucking men (same thing support forum for ts girls that have nothing to do with sex).

of course trans women that date women it is another story.

nina_lisa
05-15-2012, 03:36 AM
..Some TS write Vers in adds and then when you show up you can not fuck them..

You think she can take 5 clients in her ass per day? might be easier to be top and be able to take more clients.

maddygirl
05-15-2012, 03:36 AM
Personally, I'd never want anything going in my butt. I'll wait until srs before I have any type of sex at all...

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 04:05 AM
Personally, I'd never want anything going in my butt. I'll wait until srs before I have any type of sex at all...

And that's well respected that's your choice, and good for you.

hwbs
05-15-2012, 04:20 AM
Eh I have been with more of my share of ts and I have yet to find one that wouldn't bottom for me.....my advice try harder

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 04:23 AM
Eh I have been with more of my share of ts and I have yet to find one that wouldn't bottom for me.....my advice try harder

Since you're in Gotham City tell the Dark Prince aka BATMAN I said what up!!! lol

hwbs
05-15-2012, 04:34 AM
Sure thing

runningdownthatdream
05-15-2012, 06:26 AM
I always thought that they whole point of being a female was being the taker sex wise..I never saw the point in TS that will not Bottom..Just trying to figure this out...I am a strict top with TS and some of my favorite TS I have not had the chance to be with sexually.

Why do you like to Top - can you provide a logical, rational explanation? Why don't you bottom - can you provide a logical, rational explanation?

ts_sunshine
05-15-2012, 06:47 AM
There are a great variety of Tgirls out there. Some want to be women and they want it as soon as possible. Massive doses of hormones will preclude the possibility of topping even if she was interested. Until SRS, that only leaves abstinence, anal sex, or oral play only.

But there are Tgirls who aren't in a rush to get snipped. There are some Tgirls who are non-op - they have no intention of becoming women at all. There is a whole range of Tgirls out there. Now, for a good portion of these girls, topping is possible because their equipment still functions.

But this is all besides the point. It depends on what the Tgirl likes. Some girls like to top, some like to bottom, some like both, some like none of the above.

I would think that admirers of Tgirls would have crossed that bridge when they got here. If you are ready to admit that a Tgirl may well have a cock inside her panties, why deny her the pleasure of using it? If you're not into the same thing as the Tgirl you're with, find one who is a better fit for you.

I don't hide my preference - I'm a top. So if you think a Tgirl's place is in the kitchen, don't be surprised if I serve meat for supper.

Sunshine

BluegrassCat
05-15-2012, 06:54 AM
I don't hide my preference - I'm a top. So if you think a Tgirl's place is in the kitchen, don't be surprised if I serve meat for supper.

Sunshine

Awesome.

jamiethewild
05-15-2012, 07:41 AM
Marty you are right it does not make sense...
Anyone that is a woman at heart will bottom...

In my opinion its just that a lot of men also claim to be woman but in fact aren't...
This happens a lot with TS...

Even those that get SRS... A lot of them also are like men on the inside.

Its confusing.

I disagree with you Kitty , TOP TS's should be consider a woman at heart also just means her views are different in that department

Like i said earlier ME MYSELF AND I am a normal woman out of the escorting world because escorting is full of making fantasies come true , but when and if i am looking for a men it has to be a total DOMINANT TOP true MALE and in personality also.. i just can't date bottoms I guess am more old school i like the traditional old fashion way because it feels right and comfy for me but you have no right to judge the top ts's for liking other stuff i blame myself sometimes because when i see something out of the norm and i judge it pretty harsh but hey whatever flows each others boat right ?

MrsKellyPierce
05-15-2012, 07:52 AM
Not every person can get off from anal

Not every person can do anal (too much pain, hemroid problems, other factors)

Sex should be enjoyable -who cares how it is done as long as everyone is cumming

Absarokah
05-15-2012, 07:53 AM
Not every person can get off from anal

Not every person can do anal (too much pain, hemroid problems, other factors)

Sex should be enjoyable -who cares how it is done as long as everyone is cumming

Well said.

MrsKellyPierce
05-15-2012, 07:54 AM
Maybe your fucking don't make her dick cum...that's why she has to roll you over...

Some men and their egos

GrimFusion
05-15-2012, 08:11 AM
Marty you are right it does not make sense...
Anyone that is a woman at heart will bottom...

In my opinion its just that a lot of men also claim to be woman but in fact aren't...
This happens a lot with TS...

Even those that get SRS... A lot of them also are like men on the inside.

Its confusing.

I'm sorry, but that's pretty dumb. You're confusing sexuality with gender, and that's kinda screwy coming from a transsexual. I can understand that you live by your own rules, but in your case, your rules seem to purposely align you with the labels society places on "normal women". There's no such thing as normal women. They're all psycho. lol. That was a joke, but never-the-less, I kinda understand why Nicole gives you such a hard time.

I shouldn't have to tell you this, but most transsexuals transition because they don't feel comfortable living day-to-day as their birth gender. It has absolutely nothing to do with sex. Some of them don't want to sit around and watch their gonads shrivel up while they wait for SRS. Some only bottom. Some don't even participate in sex. Those are all personal opinions, not rules or guidelines. I get the idea that you think you've taken the "correct course" and all the other women around here are just doing it wrong. Problem is, you're in pretty lousy company to be pointing fingers because around here, you're the odd one.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad about being a little different; try not to take insult to it because that's not my intention. Never-the-less, no matter how a man fucks, he's still a man. No matter how a woman fucks, she's still a woman. No matter how a transsexual fucks... do you get my drift? It's insulting insinuating that versatiles and tops are any less transgendered than you are.

Jericho
05-15-2012, 08:19 AM
They're all psycho. lol. That was a joke.

...and like all good comedy, based on truth! :shrug
:hide-1:

jamiethewild
05-15-2012, 08:21 AM
I'm sorry, but that's pretty dumb. You're confusing sexuality with gender, and that's kinda screwy coming from a transsexual. I can understand that you live by your own rules, but in your case, your rules seem to purposely align you with the labels society places on "normal women". There's no such thing as normal women. They're all psycho. lol. That was a joke, but never-the-less, I kinda understand why Nicole gives you such a hard time.

I shouldn't have to tell you this, but most transsexuals transition because they don't feel comfortable living day-to-day as their birth gender. It has absolutely nothing to do with sex. Some of them don't want to sit around and watch their gonads shrivel up while they wait for SRS. Some only bottom. Some don't even participate in sex. Those are all personal opinions, not rules or guidelines. I get the idea that you think you've taken the "correct course" and all the other women around here are just doing it wrong. Problem is, you're in pretty lousy company to be pointing fingers because around here, you're the odd one.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad about being a little different; try not to take insult to it because that's not my intention. Never-the-less, no matter how a man fucks, he's still a man. No matter how a woman fucks, she's still a woman. No matter how a transsexual fucks... do you get my drift? It's insulting insinuating that versatiles and tops are any less transgendered than you are.

your right thats why i called out this "kitty person "

BTW there are some out there that are normal lol not all woman are psycho theres actually sweet nice woman out there also :-)
just don't push their buttons lol

LibertyHarkness
05-15-2012, 08:55 AM
lol love sunshine last line :) you will be most welcome on these forums :)

Cecil Rhodes
05-15-2012, 10:16 AM
You are refering to a girl with a Penis . If you don't want her to use her Penis, why are you with her & not a GG ? It should be obvious . Luckily there are girls that are Versatile . This is my opinion . Now I am going to sit back and wait on the obligatory Haters to trash my opinion/answer .

theoryman
05-15-2012, 10:55 AM
I don't hide my preference - I'm a top. So if you think a Tgirl's place is in the kitchen, don't be surprised if I serve meat for supper.

Sunshine

Just love to hear from a top gurl!!!

However, it does seem to be more uncommon to find top gurls out there in the dating world, as opposed to the escort world.

As evidence, I can offer any big city craigs list, as well as several adult sex/swinging sites...

I'd take a stab at putting the ratio, in the dating world, at better than 40 bottoms to 1 top...

--

BellaBellucci
05-15-2012, 11:33 AM
Oh geez. This shit again?! :rolleyes:

~BB~

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 02:03 PM
I don't hide my preference - I'm a top. So if you think a Tgirl's place is in the kitchen, don't be surprised if I serve meat for supper.

Sunshine

Damm girl ummmm I'll take yams and home made macaroni and cheese with that meat LOL :dead:

jamesedwards
05-15-2012, 02:05 PM
I agree with Kelly Shore.

tsadriana
05-15-2012, 03:31 PM
Maybe some TSs has more testosterones then estrogen ,nothing wrong with that ,i wish i could top guys but is not my thing....anyway top/bottom for me are all Tss well if they look like one .x

KittyPride
05-15-2012, 05:19 PM
I'm sorry, but that's pretty dumb. You're confusing sexuality with gender, and that's kinda screwy coming from a transsexual. I can understand that you live by your own rules, but in your case, your rules seem to purposely align you with the labels society places on "normal women". There's no such thing as normal women. They're all psycho. lol. That was a joke, but never-the-less, I kinda understand why Nicole gives you such a hard time.

I shouldn't have to tell you this, but most transsexuals transition because they don't feel comfortable living day-to-day as their birth gender. It has absolutely nothing to do with sex. Some of them don't want to sit around and watch their gonads shrivel up while they wait for SRS. Some only bottom. Some don't even participate in sex. Those are all personal opinions, not rules or guidelines. I get the idea that you think you've taken the "correct course" and all the other women around here are just doing it wrong. Problem is, you're in pretty lousy company to be pointing fingers because around here, you're the odd one.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad about being a little different; try not to take insult to it because that's not my intention. Never-the-less, no matter how a man fucks, he's still a man. No matter how a woman fucks, she's still a woman. No matter how a transsexual fucks... do you get my drift? It's insulting insinuating that versatiles and tops are any less transgendered than you are.

Well grim it is my heart felt opinion...and i cant help feeling this way...

As you are well aware...lot of girls here do not like me for it...but what makes their opinion more valid then mine?

I thought about this a great deal...but still my view remains the same...

KittyPride
05-15-2012, 05:27 PM
I disagree with you Kitty , TOP TS's should be consider a woman at heart also just means her views are different in that department

Like i said earlier ME MYSELF AND I am a normal woman out of the escorting world because escorting is full of making fantasies come true , but when and if i am looking for a men it has to be a total DOMINANT TOP true MALE and in personality also.. i just can't date bottomsJa I guess am more old school i like the traditional old fashion way because it feels right and comfy for me but you have no right to judge the top ts's for liking other stuff i blame myself sometimes because when i see something out of the norm and i judge it pretty harsh but hey whatever flows each others boat right ?

Well Jamie i have found TS irl to be really judgemental, often narrowminded, and masculine in thinking and behavior...

Its not about the norm for me...its about getting real...

Of course we all want to be politically correct and thats ok...

But my view honestly differs from that and even though i tried, nobody came up with any solid arguement that made me change my mind...

In the TS community i see a lot of girls saying they are truck drivers because they are emancipated woman...(not because they lived most of their lives as passable men !) And i see a lot of girls topping guys saying they are woman and their lovers straight all for the sake of painting a pretty picture to justify their behavior and their sexual or gender identity...but honestly i dont believe them...

And i was not proven wrong once !

Marty Mcfly
05-15-2012, 05:30 PM
Well Jamie i have found TS irl to be really judgemental, often narrowminded, and masculine in thinking and behavior...

Its not about the norm for me...its about getting real...

Of course we all want to be politically correct and thats ok...

But my view honestly differs from that and even though i tried, nobody came up with any solid arguement that made me change my mind...

In the TS community i see a lot of girls saying they are truck drivers because they are emancipated woman...(not because they lived most of their lives as passable men !) And i see a lot of girls topping guys saying they are woman and their lovers straight all for the sake of painting a pretty picture to justify their behavior and their sexual or gender identity...but honestly i dont believe them...

And i was not proven wrong once !

+1...I agree with you 100% Most TS wanna have their cake and eat it too.
You can not play the role of the woman in a relationship unless you bend over and take it like one..God created Adam and Eve.Not Adam and Steve..One gives and one takes.

oifarang
05-15-2012, 05:46 PM
+1...I agree with you 100% Most TS wanna have their cake and eat it too.
You can not play the role of the woman in a relationship unless you bend over and take it like one..God created Adam and Eve.Not Adam and Steve..One gives and one takes.

Bigot and a twat

LibertyHarkness
05-15-2012, 07:26 PM
LOL at this thread ...

Marty Mcfly
05-15-2012, 07:33 PM
Bigot and a twat

Not at all..Unlike Most men I have dated TS in my Personal life as well as seen them as escorts..I view my TS as woman and treat them as one inside and outside of the bedroom...Most men are just into TS as a fetish and would not be scene in Public with one..So who is the Bigot?I know what I am talking about..Thanks....If you wanna be scene as a Woman then you must act like one as well..Play the role that you are trying to become..

LibertyHarkness
05-15-2012, 07:35 PM
sighhhh marty you really dont get it .... your basing someones gender soley on the sexual role ... it doesnt work like that in real life mate .. step outside of fantasy land for a moment ,, someones gender is not about there sexual feelings ... your confusing fetish into it ..

Its not about a Transgendered woman playing any role ,, you either are female or your not .. myself i am born in the wrong body thats the end of it .. i cant reprogram my brain but i can fix my body .. all the time my dick works i will use it as once its gone its gone (not that i will ever top a man in my own social life anyway, only people i fuck are females with my cock) ... that function has no bearing on how i feel as a woman whatsoever .... what does have a bearing is how i live my life in general, how i see myself as a person , as the only person that actually matters in the grand scheme of it all is the TS themselves ..

BellaBellucci
05-15-2012, 07:35 PM
If you wanna be scene as a Woman then you must act like one as well..Play the role that you are trying to become..

Misogyny FTW.

'Bitch, get back in the kitchen and make me some PIE!' -- E. Cartman

~BB~

MrsKellyPierce
05-15-2012, 07:38 PM
I really don't think Kitty Pride is a transsexual..

I think she is a crossdresser fantasizing..

That is all...

rockabilly
05-15-2012, 07:42 PM
Misogyny FTW.

'Bitch, get back in the kitchen and make me some PIE!' -- E. Cartman

~BB~

Want some cheezy poofs with your pie?

LibertyHarkness
05-15-2012, 07:48 PM
well there is alot of poofs on this board thats for sure :)

BellaBellucci
05-15-2012, 07:51 PM
Want some cheezy poofs with your pie?

Ya I want Cheesy Poofs!

~BB~

SammiValentine
05-15-2012, 07:57 PM
well there is alot of poofs on this board thats for sure :)


woofters and poofters :D

Jericho
05-15-2012, 08:08 PM
woofters and poofters :D

And the rest are...:jerkoff

ValerieNelson
05-15-2012, 08:16 PM
:jerkoff :jerkoff :jerkoff :jerkoff

jamiethewild
05-16-2012, 01:38 AM
Well Jamie i have found TS irl to be really judgemental, often narrowminded, and masculine in thinking and behavior...

Its not about the norm for me...its about getting real...

Of course we all want to be politically correct and thats ok...

But my view honestly differs from that and even though i tried, nobody came up with any solid arguement that made me change my mind...

In the TS community i see a lot of girls saying they are truck drivers because they are emancipated woman...(not because they lived most of their lives as passable men !) And i see a lot of girls topping guys saying they are woman and their lovers straight all for the sake of painting a pretty picture to justify their behavior and their sexual or gender identity...but honestly i dont believe them...

And i was not proven wrong once !

I see your point but shouldn't judge them for what they do indoors thats wrong you should support them not tell them a their man because of that

KittyPride
05-16-2012, 01:42 AM
I really don't think Kitty Pride is a transsexual..

I think she is a crossdresser fantasizing..

That is all...

I'll spice it up for you so that it better suits your worldview... I am a crossdresser fantasizing over you!

If that's all it takes to make you happy!
Here you go! ;)

KittyPride
05-16-2012, 01:45 AM
I see your point but shouldn't judge them for what they do indoors thats wrong you should support them not tell them a their man because of that

But that would mean I would have to lie to them to support them?
And why?
Do they support me?
Or other girls?

I only see most of them supporting themselves, their own narcisistic needs, they know exactly who is a TS and who isnt, who is a woman and who isnt, but the moment you question them...

Its war!
;)
Well... I question them... and yes openly. Just like they question others.
I dont see why I do not have the right to do so.

I let others question me too.
I dont mind.

amberskyi
05-16-2012, 01:50 AM
so being a truck driver makes someone masculine?? hellloooo....its a job,thats it.
next thing your know youll be telling us the only suitable jobs for woman are secretaries and house wives.college isnt for careers but to make you a better wife smdh

KittyPride
05-16-2012, 02:01 AM
so being a truck driver makes someone masculine?? hellloooo....its a job,thats it.
next thing your know youll be telling us the only suitable jobs for woman are secretaries and house wives.college isnt for careers but to make you a better wife smdh

A lot of Tgirls think that just because they identify as woman... that everything they do, their behavior, their interests are feminine too lol..

BellaBellucci
05-16-2012, 02:04 AM
A lot of Tgirls think that just because they identify as woman... that everything they do, their behavior, their interests are feminine too lol..

GG's have PLENTY of traditionally non-feminine interests and behaviors. In fact, it's hyper-femininity that is the hallmark of the 'part-timer' (CD/TV). I'm so sick of you. Please FOD.

~BB~

amberskyi
05-16-2012, 02:05 AM
A lot of Tgirls think that just because they identify as woman... that everything they do, their behavior, their interests are feminine too lol..

pretty much...does a woman cease to have a vagina and be a woman because she has a few masculine traits.
we as human beings are a mixture and balance of a lot of things (thing ying and yang).
every man has a characteristic.quality or two that is feminine and vice versa for woman.

KittyPride
05-16-2012, 02:07 AM
GG's have PLENTY of traditionally non-feminine interests and behaviors. In fact, it's hyper-femininity that is the hallmark of the 'part-timer' (CD/TV). I'm so sick of you. Please FOD.

~BB~

No hyper-femininity you will see in CD's that go part time to compensate for their masculinity in real life.

It seems to me you despise every feminine GG, who are still the majority of the female species...
They dont need to cross dress as man, for them to be feminine...
So who is the real bigot here?

BellaBellucci
05-16-2012, 02:10 AM
No hyper-femininity you will see in CD's that go part time to compensate for their masculinity in real life.

It seems to me you despise every feminine GG, who are still the majority of the female species...
They dont need to cross dress as man, for them to be feminine...
So who is the real bigot here?

Wow. You're desperate. I LOVE feminine GG's (as well as TS's), both as friends and lovers. I'm pansexual. You got me twisted! :lol:

~BB~

jamiethewild
05-16-2012, 02:13 AM
no hyper-femininity you will see in cd's that go part time to compensate for their masculinity in real life.

It seems to me you despise every feminine gg, who are still the majority of the female species...
They dont need to cross dress as man, for them to be feminine...
So who is the real bigot here?

you are !!!!!!!

KittyPride
05-16-2012, 02:14 AM
pretty much...does a woman cease to have a vagina and be a woman because she has a few masculine traits.
we as human beings are a mixture and balance of a lot of things (thing ying and yang).
every man has a characteristic.quality or two that is feminine and vice versa for woman.

Thats right.
For me all people are on that spectrum.
I naturally need and want to be on the feminine side of the spectrum because that feels like me. And I want to date someone on the opposite side... because that balances me out.

All the talk about identity. Its not really important for me.
Being a woman does not really mean a lot to me if I have to live looking like a man for instance... it would make me feel extremely unhappy, as it did in the past... also I just want to follow my feminine nature and want to be loved for that femininity.

This is whats most important to me. I feel like a woman, but once my needs are met in a relationship... I really dont care how the other sees me... as long as he treats me like a woman... Im fine.

Might be hard to understand.
But for instance...

I dont want to have anything to do with a man that claims he sees me as a woman... but at the same time he wants me for my cock etc.

I could not care less about the opinion of such a guy.
Proof is in the pudding.

If you really see me as a woman, then treat me as one.

KittyPride
05-16-2012, 02:18 AM
Wow. You're desperate. I LOVE feminine GG's (as well as TS's), both as friends and lovers. I'm pansexual. You got me twisted! :lol:

~BB~

So why do you not call those feminine GG's crossdressing fetishists then?
Ooh that is right...
Because you think THEY are girls... and because you think a TS can never be a girl..

So, that also tells me a lot about you. You not only see yourself as "damaged" you even see yourself as a damaged man!

MrsKellyPierce
05-16-2012, 02:19 AM
So I assume if a TS is a lesbian..she also isn't a TS??

If she fucks women?

LibertyHarkness
05-16-2012, 02:19 AM
ahhh dont say that kelly .. i am shit out of luck if thats case ... nag dam it .. lol

jamesedwards
05-16-2012, 02:21 AM
LOL HAHAHAH LOL DAMMMMMMMM LOL lol

KittyPride
05-16-2012, 02:21 AM
So I assume if a TS is a lesbian..she also isn't a TS??

If she fucks women?

hey I never claimed anyone WASN'T a TS.
You did by claiming Im no TS ;)

jamiethewild
05-16-2012, 02:22 AM
I really don't think Kitty Pride is a transsexual..

I think she is a crossdresser fantasizing..

That is all...

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

Thats DUDE girl !!!!!!!

KittyPride
05-16-2012, 02:23 AM
:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

Thats DUDE girl !!!!!!!

You girls just cant stand the truth really lol

BellaBellucci
05-16-2012, 02:24 AM
So why do you not call those feminine GG's crossdressing fetishists then?
Ooh that is right...
Because you think THEY are girls... and because you think a TS can never be a girl..

So, that also tells me a lot about you. You not only see yourself as "damaged" you even see yourself as a damaged man!

Seriously? Ahh, fuck it. Believe whatever you want because you certainly don't make any sense to me anymore. You're being absolutely ridiculous now and I don't need to explain myself to you. :rolleyes:

~BB~

KittyPride
05-16-2012, 02:24 AM
Seriously? Ahh, fuck it. Believe whatever you want because you certainly don't make any sense to me anymore. You're being absolutely ridiculous now. :rolleyes:

~BB~

No you are.

hippifried
05-16-2012, 04:23 AM
Jamiethewild, I can't stop0 staring at your avatar.

Is there a relation to Betty Boop by any chance?

jamesedwards
05-16-2012, 04:26 AM
Seriously? Ahh, fuck it. Believe whatever you want because you certainly don't make any sense to me anymore. You're being absolutely ridiculous now and I don't need to explain myself to you. :rolleyes:

~BB~

PROFOUND WORDS BEING SPOKEN:werd:

phillyguy21
05-16-2012, 08:07 PM
Everyone has their own form of sexuality. It is not a rigid thing. The fact that we are on a transsexual board should tell you that. There are people who will say that it doesn't make sense to date tgirls. Just because they don't understand it, doesn't mean that it makes no sense. Same with tgirls choosing to top exclusively, bottom exclusively, or anything in between.

In addition, some girls may seem to be strictly top, because they want to be just a top with certain guys. For example, a TS friend I used to mess around with had a boyfriend when we first met. She would only do handjobs and frottage (cock to cock) with me, and let me blow her. In her mind, any form of penetration either way, would have been cheating. When she broke up with her bf, she said she would fuck guys, but not let them fuck her. Being penetrated was a sacred thing to her that she only let happen if she knew and cared about a guy. I was fortunate enough to fuck her (and get fucked by her) because we were on that level.

In other words, just because a girl tells you she only tops doesn't mean that she never bottoms. However, even if she does only top, who cares? Try to get someone who's sexually compatible with YOU. I personally like a versatile tgirl, but I don't get bent out of shape if a girl is strictly bottom or top.

irvin66
05-16-2012, 09:29 PM
It's wonderful with tgirls that tops, hope there are more tgirls that do it!!!!!:dancing: Those who are top is the best! :fuckin:

jamiethewild
05-17-2012, 03:02 AM
Jamiethewild, I can't stop0 staring at your avatar.

Is there a relation to Betty Boop by any chance?

lol, no its a cute funny picture i choose but the picture has no relation to betty boo lol

jamesedwards
05-17-2012, 04:24 AM
I love me a wild style versatile Tgirl.

catherinefan
05-17-2012, 02:54 PM
I always thought that they whole point of being a female was being the taker sex wise..


What a hopelessly old fashioned view, Marty. Lots of gg women (to my delight) like to strap it on these days. Guess you don't get that either.

And how about two tgirls getting together? In order for penetration to take place, one would have to be topping, don't you think?

hwbs
05-17-2012, 03:06 PM
What can I say vers girls rule.....I don't identify with the word strict....to me that's a gay term for a selfish lover...I can't believe this thread still going lol

maddygirl
05-17-2012, 10:53 PM
Well Jamie i have found TS irl to be really judgemental, often narrowminded, and masculine in thinking and behavior...

Its not about the norm for me...its about getting real...

Of course we all want to be politically correct and thats ok...

But my view honestly differs from that and even though i tried, nobody came up with any solid arguement that made me change my mind...

In the TS community i see a lot of girls saying they are truck drivers because they are emancipated woman...(not because they lived most of their lives as passable men !) And i see a lot of girls topping guys saying they are woman and their lovers straight all for the sake of painting a pretty picture to justify their behavior and their sexual or gender identity...but honestly i dont believe them...

And i was not proven wrong once !
I really don't understand how you can call most of us masculine thinkers when you consider yourself transsexual? Also, when you mentioned about some girls being truck drivers... In your eyes a woman having a "masculine" job makes her less of a woman? Not ALL women are hyper-feminine, not ALL men are hyper-masculine. Being transsexual is about being yourself whether you're a masculine woman or feminine woman... just be yourself.

maddygirl
05-17-2012, 10:55 PM
The really don't understand how can you most of us are masculine thinkers when you consider yourself transsexual? Also, when you mentioned about some girls being truck drivers... In your eyes a woman having a "masculine" job makes her less of a woman? Not ALL women are hyper-feminine, not ALL men are hyper-masculine. Being transsexual is about being yourself whether you're a masculine woman or feminine woman... just be yourself.
And the girl's preference sexually has absolutely nothing to do with her gender identity... SO do you consider a genetic girl wearing a strap-on doing her husband in the ass a MAN? Because I actually know some girls who aren't trans who do these sort of things...

KittyPride
05-17-2012, 11:47 PM
And the girl's preference sexually has absolutely nothing to do with her gender identity... SO do you consider a genetic girl wearing a strap-on doing her husband in the ass a MAN? Because I actually know some girls who aren't trans who do these sort of things...

No, but i DO consider it masculine behavior for a human being...

Thats all i ever said...

KittyPride
05-17-2012, 11:52 PM
And about the masculine thinking part...simply coz i find most ts to be stubborn and impossible to reason with...

Most live in a fantasy world, almost all of the ts i met...except the two that i have as friends...

jamesedwards
05-17-2012, 11:53 PM
Lol hahahahah lol ctfu lmao lol

ditadior
05-18-2012, 12:00 AM
we have our own reasons and our own preferences.

im a power bottom, i rarely top it happens occasionally though.

KittyPride
05-18-2012, 12:03 AM
What a hopelessly old fashioned view, Marty. Lots of gg women (to my delight) like to strap it on these days. Guess you don't get that either.

And how about two tgirls getting together? In order for penetration to take place, one would have to be topping, don't you think?

Thats lesbian sex bro... and you know why? cause to love another girl sometimes means to want to penetrate her...

But to love a Tgirl means something totally different to you.
Its absolute gay sex... just like the lesbians...

gay folks love MEN... thats why they want to be penetrated by them...
In the same way you love Tgirls as men, cause you want to be penetrated by them...

If you loved them as woman... you would want to penetrate them...

And Marty was banned for loving woman...

So funny...

And I wont be fooled by closet gay men, ever ! lol im too smart for that. I know most of you better then you do yourself lol

jamesedwards
05-18-2012, 12:05 AM
we have our own reasons and our own preferences.

im a power bottom, i rarely top it happens occasionally though.

When you top does it feel really good? Do you get to cum hard as if you bottomed? I'm a guy and I top and bottom, I am a guy that is versatile.
When you're on the bottom and you are getting it in the ass do you jack your cock off or cum through your ass?

KittyPride
05-18-2012, 12:06 AM
When you top does it feel really good? Do you get to cum hard as if you bottomed? I'm a guy and I top and bottom, I am a guy that is versatile.
When you're on the bottom and you are getting it in the ass do you jack your cock off or cum through your ass?

Answer the gay man now ! lol

jamesedwards
05-18-2012, 12:29 AM
Answer the gay man now ! lol

Wtf is wrong with you? do you live of starting shit? Im the wrong dude to mess with , first of not gay second shut your dirty back, mud mouth ass up!!! all you do is talk bullshit and never had to offer nothing. At least I am asking questions to get a solid convo going. shut your ass up

Ryz
05-18-2012, 12:43 AM
Answer the gay man now ! lol

nigga u gay

maddygirl
05-18-2012, 12:48 AM
Answer the gay man now ! lol
For being someone who claims to dislike judgemental people, you seem to judge quite a lot.

Ryz
05-18-2012, 12:51 AM
Wtf is wrong with you? do you live of starting shit? Im the wrong dude to mess with , first of not gay second shut your dirty back, mud mouth ass up!!! all you do is talk bullshit and never had to offer nothing. At least I am asking questions to get a solid convo going. shut your ass up

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/8f7/cf1/736/resized/troll-face-meme-generator-you-got-trolled-af76af.jpg

hwbs
05-18-2012, 12:58 AM
Troll needs a vacation courtesy of the ha hammer lol

jamesedwards
05-18-2012, 12:59 AM
YOU'VE BEEN TROLLED

LOL I believe I did that running nose nappy headed bitch running round calling people gay, and that same hussy takes cock and got a cock lol fucking kettle calling the pot black? lol hahahah that rusty neck motha fucka is a troll at best. Talking about no one can fool it, him or whatever fuck that is lol

flabbybody
05-18-2012, 05:03 AM
For being someone who claims to dislike judgemental people, you seem to judge quite a lot.
nicely stated.
going forward he or she will be typing away on another forum

Willie Escalade
05-18-2012, 05:13 AM
we have our own reasons and our own preferences.

im a power bottom, i rarely top it happens occasionally though.

My type of girl!

Jackal
05-18-2012, 05:30 AM
Being a transgender is about gender identity, not sexuality. Doing or enjoying a certain sex act does not change your gender.

ditadior
05-18-2012, 05:58 AM
When you top does it feel really good? Do you get to cum hard as if you bottomed? I'm a guy and I top and bottom, I am a guy that is versatile.
When you're on the bottom and you are getting it in the ass do you jack your cock off or cum through your ass?
i hate topping

robertlouis
05-18-2012, 06:34 AM
i hate topping

I won't over-generalise, but Dita's comment is pretty representative of what a lot of ts girls who escort seem to think, ie. that the market they're in requires them to top, but in their private lives they are more comfortable both physically and psychologically as a bottom.

That's my experience, although as I only top it could be self-evident!

ditadior
05-18-2012, 08:58 AM
I won't over-generalise, but Dita's comment is pretty representative of what a lot of ts girls who escort seem to think, ie. that the market they're in requires them to top, but in their private lives they are more comfortable both physically and psychologically as a bottom.

That's my experience, although as I only top it could be self-evident!

honestly for work i really dont do it either lol.

very rarely.

the ass has to be right, it has to be clean, the man has to be something to get me hard rock..

im picky in what im going to stick my dick in.

im no worm thats going into no apple, a worm will go in a rotten apple, dita will go in a nice clean crisp beautiful apple.

unlike the one i had to deal with last night, ive never seen suck a loose hole in my life.

Steve-Oh
05-18-2012, 09:34 AM
Goddamn, I've ignored this thread but see it still goes on.
Why must this topic be so absolute?
To each their own ferfuxxakes!


do you ... cum through your ass?
That's gotta be one big projectile I don't want to get hit by. :nervous:

Poirot
03-20-2013, 12:12 PM
in my own life i am bottom or i only fuck women .

is there a danger from being bottom that your ass muscle gets loose and you have anal leakage ?

LibertyHarkness
03-20-2013, 12:14 PM
nope not really, unless you was destryoing your asshole with massive things every day all day long for years and years ...

Me i probably get fucked a handful of times each month lol these days ... hell i havnt even shot a scene of me being fucked by a man since May 2012 ... though i am sorting out a run of boy/Ts scenes of myself at moment as i will just crack out about 10 hardcore scenes in a week of that to use on my site over the next 4/5months .

Bribi
03-20-2013, 12:22 PM
First, I think you indeed don't see the point at all of being a TGirl.

You don't become a TGirl because you want to be bottom in porn.

You become TGirl because you feel that you are more a girl in a boy's body and that you would be more comfortable and confident if considered and looking like a true girl.

Tgirl doesn't mean porn all the time by the way. And it's only a sexual thing either.

That's at least my opinion.
I don't see TGirls as porn-star/sexual person getting f-ed because looking like a woman. I see TGirl as person who did what they feel they had to do to become happier, more confident and to feel like they fit more in this life.

shemalefritzie
03-20-2013, 12:22 PM
well i for one love to top as anybody who has seen me will agree
but a lot of girls do see it as being masculine and therefore prefer to be bottom x

Prospero
03-20-2013, 02:09 PM
I was with a very young and very pretty TS just over a week ago. She told me she knew she was a girl in a male body when she was in primary school and is already arranging a date for her gender reassignment operation. But right now prefers to top. She said she loves it and has only tried receiving anal sex once - and it hurt too much for her to want to repeat the experiment. So as james Edwards observed, it takes all types....

timid1
03-20-2013, 02:44 PM
Surely the members here are more open minded than most people? Therefore some like to Top , some Bottom, most probably both in varying degrees? Embrace all ,be tolerant and enjoy whatever gets that most important organ of all going.... your brain :)

Ms.Stepford
03-20-2013, 03:51 PM
I was with a very young and very pretty TS just over a week ago. She told me she knew she was a girl in a male body when she was in primary school and is already arranging a date for her gender reassignment operation. But right now prefers to top. She said she loves it and has only tried receiving anal sex once - and it hurt too much for her to want to repeat the experiment. So as james Edwards observed, it takes all types....

I can sympathize.

I'm one who looks at the thread title and feels that one doesn't "become" transsexual, but is born so, since I can't remember a time when I wasn't, whether or not I was doing anything about it yet.

In the past, I've been horribly broken up, to the say the least, about what I was born with, but I've, rather recently, come into self-acceptance, and allowed myself to enjoy my own body without guilt. Coincidentally, my cock started working as well as it did before four years of HRT. I think I've realized that I'm okay with being a girl with a cock, but I could never be okay with being a guy.

Nine times out of ten, I'd rather bottom, but I've gotten much more enthusiastic at helping clients who want me to play top.

nysprod
03-20-2013, 05:26 PM
In the past, I've been horribly broken up, to the say the least, about what I was born with, but I've, rather recently, come into self-acceptance

Glad to see you've come into self-acceptance...and while my wish is that all you girls can find it, I think it happens all too rarely...

NYBURBS
03-20-2013, 05:45 PM
Oh geez. This shit again?! :rolleyes:

~BB~

lol, that's how I feel when reading these forums. Stick around long enough and you notice that the same topics keep getting recycled. Though I smell a troll OP on this thread.

Ms.Stepford
03-20-2013, 05:47 PM
It's not like I would have found it without transitioning though, y'know?

It really took adjusting everything else about me, and then one little (okay, average) penis didn't seem to be such a big deal anymore.

trish
03-20-2013, 05:47 PM
An analogous question or two or three: If you're a woman, why would you want to be dominate? Why buy a strap-on? If you're a man why would you want to suck a tgirl's cock? Or fuck anything other than a pussy?

Gender identification doesn't determine sexual behavior. Neither does sexuality determine gender identification. The thing to keep in mind is that both gender and sexuality in humans have broad ranges of variations and the mapping between the two is not one-to-one.

Often my LGB(T-deleted) friends complain that transgender girls promote the very stereotype that liberated women are trying to brake free of. I argue it is not so. I can't say it isn't true of some fans of transgender women.

fire.starterman
03-20-2013, 08:19 PM
Just thought I'd chip in my experience. I guess I'm bi sexual in so much as I enjoy sex with both females and transsexuals. I do not find men attractive, but love a girl with a cock so to speak. The transsexual attraction for me spans from having females play with my ass as a less experienced person sexually. I discovered I enjoyed this and this then progressed to strap on fun, and then ultimately I liked the idea of the girl having a cock and enjoying the experience just as much as me. I still enjoy sex with females as much as I do with transsexuals, but when I want to dish out the fucking I go to a female, if I want my ass played with I go to a transsexual. I actually find it odd that guys want to be the giver when having sex with a transsexual, as for me I think why not just fuck a female.

Ultimately though in the bedroom we all have our little ways and turn ons so best not to analyze and just do what you like!

syla
03-20-2013, 08:23 PM
I simply think that, we make an excuse for whatever situation it is or decision that one's made, to make it "acceptable" to ourselves. And break it down in whatever "scientific this-or that" to rationalize.

I agree with the OP. And I don't wanna lie I am very inexperienced with TG's...am no expert. But to me, you can't be a top only. Top should be rarely in your head. Because you want to be a "woman".

No harm/hate-speech intended there.

VictoriaVeil
03-20-2013, 09:04 PM
your gender is what is in your head --how one sees themselves..... who you want to fuck (or get fucked by) is not gender related at all.. its based on sexual attraction and desire.

The two are completely unrelated.

FreddieGomez
03-20-2013, 11:56 PM
don't make me laugh

Michelle.
03-21-2013, 12:07 AM
Ever hear of an MtF trans lesbian?

NightmareX0666
03-21-2013, 12:14 AM
Ever hear of an MtF trans lesbian?

No, but if you hum a few bars and I will fake it! :banana:

bluesoul
03-21-2013, 12:23 AM
your gender is what is in your head --how one sees themselves.....

is this really all it takes? i'm curious how would you tell if someone is lying or crazy?

also, how would you explain girls who describe themselves as tomboys (having more in common with boys than being ultra feminine)?

TSLexi
03-21-2013, 12:24 AM
is this really all it takes? i'm curious how would you tell if someone is lying or crazy?

also, how would you explain girls who describe themselves as tomboys (having more in common with boys than being ultra feminine)?

I'm a tgirl. And I'm a tomboy. My sex is male, my gender is female, my gender expression is on the more masculine side.

Answer your question?

VictoriaVeil
03-21-2013, 12:32 AM
is this really all it takes? i'm curious how would you tell if someone is lying or crazy?

also, how would you explain girls who describe themselves as tomboys (having more in common with boys than being ultra feminine)?



thats really all it is... to tell if someone is lying /crazy is a great question...usually takes training in psychology and interrogation...

bluesoul
03-21-2013, 01:04 AM
I'm a tgirl. And I'm a tomboy. My sex is male, my gender is female, my gender expression is on the more masculine side.

Answer your question?

nope, because you could be lying about any or all of those things


thats really all it is... to tell if someone is lying /crazy is a great question...usually takes training in psychology and interrogation...

okay, and i guess this would mean in the case of children, they are genderless until they understand what gender is? like what if there is a (genetic) girl who is a tomboy? what gender is she?

TSLexi
03-21-2013, 01:07 AM
nope, because you could be lying about any or all of those things



okay, and i guess this would mean in the case of children, they are genderless until they understand what gender is? like what if there is a (genetic) girl who is a tomboy? what gender is she?

WHY THE FUCK WOULD I BE LYING?!!!?

And a GG who is a tomboy has a female gender!

This isn't hard to understand!

bluesoul
03-21-2013, 01:15 AM
WHY THE FUCK WOULD I BE LYING?!!!?

And a GG who is a tomboy has a female gender!

This isn't hard to understand!

you're assuming that i know you- which i don't, therefore, i don't know whether or not you are lying. telling me you're not lying doesn't mean you're not lying, it just means you're telling me you're not lying.

also, victoria said gender is what's in your head (how you feel), so if a gg feels more like a boy (thus a tomboy) how did you conclude she was a female?

trish
03-21-2013, 01:20 AM
In this regard it doesn't matter if you can tell whether someone is lying or not. It only matters that you don't lie to yourself.

TSLexi
03-21-2013, 01:25 AM
you're assuming that i know you- which i don't, therefore, i don't know whether or not you are lying. telling me you're not lying doesn't mean you're not lying, it just means you're telling me you're not lying.

also, victoria said gender is what's in your head (how you feel), so if a gg feels more like a boy (thus a tomboy) how did you conclude she was a female?

No. Gender expression is how you express your gender. Obviously, you can tell a butch lesbian from a man, can't you? Usually?

Marty Mcfly
08-17-2013, 02:08 PM
Thanks for the replies folks,They gave me a better understanding
Of the mindset of some people,I guess it is what it is and as long as people are making themselves happy when who cares.

omboy24
08-18-2013, 07:56 PM
Not to get on my soapbox, but the question from the OP is a perfect example of how people in general have no education about transexualism.

People don't become TS's like blonde's become brunette's; people are born into the wrong body and are identified by a specific sex that doesn't match their chromosomes, hormones and internal feelings. Just because a person in that situation derives pleasure from topping makes her no less of a lady; it just makes her more conflicted based on societal pressures and norms......as proven by some who have had to defend themselves on this thread.

Hopefully as people become more aware of transsexuals and the science behind it, this will be more understood.

Just my two cents.....now feel free to enjoy looking at the pretty naked girls.

STARTUP999
08-22-2013, 12:29 PM
I have not read the entire thread so some lady has expressed this better:
Being Transgender and topping have nothing to do with each other. Sexuality and Gender Identity have nothing to do with each other.

Get the who's on top? thing out of the equation.

fivekatz
08-22-2013, 12:58 PM
I always thought that they whole point of being a female was being the taker sex wise..I never saw the point in TS that will not Bottom..Just trying to figure this out...I am a strict top with TS and some of my favorite TS I have not had the chance to be with sexually.
Well in the first place what kind conformity should we expect in nonconformity.

And my guess is for a lot of people who are is defined by the other 23 hours a day of their lives rather the brief time it takes to top the various hobbyists and chasers that they encounter, and from what I can tell in terms of supply and demands for escorts leans heavily towards tops.

So whether it is that how people like to have sex doesn't always define their inner soul, that for girls who do escort supply v demand does strongly favor tops.

Personally for all the male learkers here whether they be vets or newbies it is not for us to judge how trans-individuals travel that path IMHO.

nysprod
08-22-2013, 02:46 PM
I have not read the entire thread so some lady has expressed this better:
Being Transgender and topping have nothing to do with each other. Sexuality and Gender Identity have nothing to do with each other.

Get the who's on top? thing out of the equation.

Umm, I'm not sure if that's entirely true. Trans girls are women so I would think they want to assume that role in a relationship.

FreddieGomez
08-23-2013, 12:00 AM
This question is being asked on the wrong forum.

BellaBellucci
08-23-2013, 12:15 AM
This question is being asked on the wrong forum.

You're right. The better question (to you especially) is, 'why be a top if you want to become a TS?'

Catty bitch! Where ya been? :lol:

~BB~

TSBootyLondon
08-23-2013, 12:22 AM
I am confused over this question!!

Why is it even relevant!

I am a woman, I lead a healthy sex life.... If my man lay on his back and let me do the work day/night after day/night sex would be very monotonous! granted I would have well toned legs and butt cheeks from my work outs but boy would I get board of it fast!!

Its the same with oral, a pleasure that we can both provide to each other so its fair to say sex, regardless of your gender is give and take, where TS is concerned its top or bottom!
I go through this daily with clients, especially new clients who are experimenting with their own sexualities... I am often asked to explain Active or Passive

I say if you want to go top, go top and if you feel like a little bottom then knock yourself out and enjoy!! x

FreddieGomez
08-23-2013, 12:24 AM
You're right. The better question (to you especially) is, 'why be a top if you want to become a TS?'

Catty bitch! Where ya been? :lol:

~BB~

i see you still talkin shit!

Johnny.Blaze
08-23-2013, 12:35 AM
I always thought that they whole point of being a female was being the taker sex wise..I never saw the point in TS that will not Bottom..Just trying to figure this out...I am a strict top with TS and some of my favorite TS I have not had the chance to be with sexually.

Are you actually serious with this kind of question? No offense but you must not really be that educated when it comes to Transgendered people.
Because a TS Tops, you don't know why they would want to be TS?
Wow, seriously? Did the thought ever sink into your mind that they transition for reasons far beyond just sex reasons? That they transition because inside, they feel as though they are female, but just in the wrong body?

I don't think any of them sit there and say to themselves. "Hmmm, you know what, I like to Top sometimes. But that's what men do, so fuck it, I'll ignore my feelings and just stay a male"

Your question is very ignorant if you ask me.

FreddieGomez
08-23-2013, 12:36 AM
being gay is ok!

Johnny.Blaze
08-23-2013, 12:39 AM
being gay is ok!

Yea Fred, we know, you've been saying that on like to separate threads now - lol

FreddieGomez
08-23-2013, 12:40 AM
Yea Fred, we know, you've been saying that on like to separate threads now - lol



the gay agenda is amongst us.

BellaBellucci
08-23-2013, 12:43 AM
i see you still talkin shit!

Bitch, you love it! <3

~BB~

FreddieGomez
08-23-2013, 12:43 AM
Bitch, you love it! <3

~BB~

as much as i love preparing for a colonoscopy

BellaBellucci
08-23-2013, 12:44 AM
as much as i love preparing for a colonoscopy

Then I'm doing it right. Yay! :dancing:

~BB~

FreddieGomez
08-23-2013, 12:46 AM
bella

in honor of you

Ms. Swan Flo Rida Look Like A Man - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9UT7c8Ugg)

BellaBellucci
08-23-2013, 12:50 AM
bella

in honor of you

Ms. Swan Flo Rida Look Like A Man - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9UT7c8Ugg)

If it takes one (a man) to know one, then I must question your credentials, lady.

~BB~

hando69
06-02-2014, 01:59 AM
Not true..I have dated TS in my personal life as well as escorts..I just do not understand becoming a woman and still wanting to be on top strictly..I am not talking about vers TS only the total tops...It's very weird to me..If you look like a female I would guess that you would wanna get fucked like one...I understand some Vers TS still wanna use their dicks and that is fine..But a total top?That is the mans role now matter how you swing it.Fact of nature.
some could ask you the same thing. If you are a "strict" top, why not just fuck a woman that has a pussy and not a cock? If you want to fuck a hole, why an ass and not a pussy?