Is this the golden age?

[Willie Escalade]

Can this be considered the golden age of Tgirl models? I'm not slighting the girls that have been around for a minute (I STILL love Celeste and Joanna)...but here are so many hot gals out there right now; it's hard to choose a favorite! Natalie Foxx, Jane Marie, Adrianna Lynn Rush, Nody Nadia...and on, and on, and on...

Can it get any better? Will it get even better??

[GroobySteven]

Every year is golden Willie.
The advance of hormones, more girls coming out earlier (thanks to the internet) and of course the ability to capture them better digitally than ever before.

[LibertyHarkness]

depends if your basing the term on Looks ? or on actual sexual performance ... I think there were far more stronger performers years back than there is currently today ..

[Willie Escalade]

depends if your basing the term on Looks ? or on actual sexual performance ... I think there were far more stronger performers years back than there is currently today ..
Mainly looks...although there are some GREAT performers today.

Ah, yes...the digital age. I'll admit though many of these girls don't need any enhancing of their pics and such..

[GroobySteven]

depends if your basing the term on Looks ? or on actual sexual performance ... I think there were far more stronger performers years back than there is currently today ..

Should be based on looks.
I don't think there were more stronger performers than today though.

[Wendy Summers]

Should be based on looks.
I don't think there were more stronger performers than today though.


I agree looks is what matters; I think it's only we porn performers that care about performances :p.

That being said, I wonder if Liberty's point about strong performers could be correct, from a certain point of view. From where I sit, there's far more models getting more frequent exposure than they would have in years past due to the boom in solo websites. While the strength and number of good performers may not have changed, the sample size has. :geek: #analyticsnerd

[Stavros]

Every age or decade has its stars, and they do not decline in terms of allure -when I became attracted to the alternative in the 1960s, drag queens were more common than transexuals in Britain, probably due to the lack of medical inputs from chemicals/hormones to surgery: Bambi and Coccinelle and April Ashley were famous, they were beauties in their day and are still historic beauties compared to anyone who has come since. And at the time, I confess the drag queens I followed were my idols, even if by todays standards they are, well, 'merely' drag queens.

The biggest difference, apart from the expansion of porn and the awareness of transexuals globally through the internet, is the performance aspect: other than drag queens, transexuals in the 1970s and even the 1980s tended to be focused on their transition, so intense hormone regimes depleted their ability to become erect: even on camera there were 'stars' like Stasha who could never get hard. Versatility has thus become the key difference: you can now have as many different types of sexual experience with a transexual as there are transexuals willing to do it -it wasn't like that in the past. But for looks, no, there have always been, and always will be stunningly beautiful transexuals.

[LibertyHarkness]

i stand by my point 100% ...

As for looks, i think looks account only initially as the hook .

For me good porn is about performance, if i watch porn which is rare anyway, (i am more interested in my warhammer 40k) i want to see hot nasty fucking going on, none of this crappy semi limp crap etc cant top properly , cant take a good anal pounding etc .. Dont want to see a girl staring into the void looking bored to death whacking off lol . Not that you didnt get that alot as well in the 90s ....

70s/80s was interesting to look at ,, as i think there was 2 sdies to TS then, the hormone path and the surgery path .. the surgery path girls seemed to fuck the shit out of anything .. i have a big collection of retro porn and some serious ironing out going on in alot of them scenes .. but equally alot of limp TS , but thats fine ...as they take a royal asshole pounding instead :)

[south ov da border]

I agree libby. The sex was a lot hotter than recently, but there's a lot more stuff out now. It's just like music, better technology and such does not mean better performance, even though it might be better packaged and catchier to the eye...

[txjr3]

Dont want to see a girl staring into the void looking bored to death whacking off lol

Oh, I don't know - I kinda like the zoned out look

[GroobySteven]

I agree libby. The sex was a lot hotter than recently, but there's a lot more stuff out now. It's just like music, better technology and such does not mean better performance, even though it might be better packaged and catchier to the eye...

Chocolate box. When there were less models and less content, we were happier (more excited) with practically anything we could get). When presented with an almost endless assortment of models or scenes, we get pickier and less happy with the one we eventually choose.
You're all looking back with rose tinted specs and sub-conciously only remembering the scenes and the performers who really stood out for you.

Quality of models and performances are better now than anytime. It's just over-saturated and you've became de-sensitized.

[LibertyHarkness]

yeah i mean dont get me wrong i really like some of the porn made today from a production aspect and performance aspect .... but alot of it to me is just too dam wishy washy ..

i have shot some girls over the last couple years that i really had to question what was the fucking point in even turning up to do the shoot in the first place lol ..

Thgough generally myself if i want to look at porn i dont watch vidoes that much, i prefer getting off to looking at well shot pictures instead .. my imagination can then control the scene in my head ..

[SammiValentine]

haha the golden age from a viewer or model POV?? The golden age for a tgirl model, will surely have been when you could make some serious dollar cos there was only 3 or 5 solo sites in the world ......:D

[LibertyHarkness]

lol that is indeed a good perspective sammi ..

Well we all know the money aspect for models has gone to rat shit compared to 5+ years ago ..but thats across the board in all genders not just singled out at TS ...

[south ov da border]

Chocolate box. When there were less models and less content, we were happier (more excited) with practically anything we could get). When presented with an almost endless assortment of models or scenes, we get pickier and less happy with the one we eventually choose.
You're all looking back with rose tinted specs and sub-conciously only remembering the scenes and the performers who really stood out for you.

Quality of models and performances are better now than anytime. It's just over-saturated and you've became de-sensitized.


I agree, but that's life. I am happy with what we have available now. Quality is good, but I think quantity overshadows quality and makes expectations too high...

[mac.B]

I think it is if you consider overall hotness and availability. Right now is def. tranny heaven for tranny porn consumers, escort patrons, trannys and tranny chasers.

I would hate to be a chaser in the 70's, 80's and 90,s even though I heard really good stories.

[Willie Escalade]

I think it is if you consider overall hotness and availability. Right now is def. tranny heaven for tranny porn consumers, escort patrons, trannys and tranny chasers.

I would hate to be a chaser in the 70's, 80's and 90,s even though I heard really good stories.

This is how I feel. I'm sorry, but many of the TGirl stars from the 70s and 80s do nothing for me. The mid-nineties on is a different story.

[LibertyHarkness]

what about if i painted my entire body gold for like ever and ever :)

[Dino Velvet]

You can get spoiled living in a big city too. Many new hotties or existing porn stars that you see can be had with a phone call and a trip to the ATM that same evening. Can't do that in Arkansas.

[ed_jaxon]

I think when one refers to a golden age there is a certain amount of freedom and depth that accompanies the particular environment.

Right now because of the internet and the willingness of many to jump into this milieu feet first there is something very special about this particular time when it comes to xxx transgendered issues.

Porn, parties, Backpage and Craigslist have all exploded and it has been a wild ride for the last 7 or 8 years. I am enjoying the fuck out of this time.

[Marty Mcfly]

I think it is the Golden age now..A lot of the newer T-girls look a lot better then the past error..They tend to end up looking much more like natural girls rather then looking like freakishly Over surged Men in Drag..So many hotties these days look so hot and fem..The day's of the thundercat looking Ts have come to an end..I feel very sorry for the Older Ts that Must go through life looking foolish and being laughed at.

[Helvis2012]

It might be...

[boner]

This is how I feel. I'm sorry, but many of the TGirl stars from the 70s and 80s do nothing for me. The mid-nineties on is a different story.

I agree with Willie. The girls have only got hotter since then.

For me the late 90s and early 2000s were the golden age with performers like Gia Darling, Barbie Woods, Johanna Bardine, Kim Devine, Olivia Love, Sylvia Boots, Lillienne Li, Meghan Chevalier, Brandy Scott, Carmen Cruz, Pamela Fontini, Sierra Ferraro, and others. I like the girls since then but those are the ladies that got me hooked.

[Willie Escalade]

Bumping this thread.

I will say that 2012 had some spectacular debuts...and we still have a third of the year to go! A certain photographer showed me a couple of new girls they had photographed; many of you will be REALLY pleased...

[danthepoetman]

You can’t help being in awe in front of the diversity of today’s models and beauty. There’s everything for every taste. I think it just is getting better and better.

[MacShreach]

It is a golden age, or at least the beginnings of one, and you can partly thank the internet. Because of it, more girls are transitioning younger and more importantly learning how earlier. There were always and will always be feminine-looking boys who could go years past the male puberty and successfully transition, but early hormone use makes that open to so many more. Also,the culture is just a lot bigger, and much more self-aware, and internationally aware, due to our increased connectedness.

I think we are still some way from transsexed people becoming mainstream but I don't think we're that far away from the position the gay male scene was in in the '70s, when gay men simply staked a claim and demanded to be accepted. Whether you agree that they were wholly successful or not is not the point, but look at the difference in representation of the gay male culture before 1970 and after 1980 and it's worlds apart, and in general to the good. Gay male culture went from being secret and suppressed to out in the open. Gay female culture is some way behind but getting there. (All this applies to Europe and the US; other places are different.)

Similarly, transsexualism, both for the men and women who are directly affected by it and the men and women who are attracted to them, has, I think, turned the corner from a suppressed and secret world to an increasingly self-confident and visible one. Where once the aim of a transsexual woman was to transition and then disappear into deep stealth--which was always a dodgy proposition--far more transwomen are able to be out as what they actually are. I know less about transmen but the situation seems similar, according to friends who know more than I do about that world.

Now we are still, certainly in the 'monde Anglo-Saxon' with its cultural baggage of a dualistic religious heritage, a long way from the situation in say Thailand, where transwomen are, quite openly, teachers, bankers, business owners, IT professionals, successful actresses and models and even politicians, after Nok Yollada's successful election earlier this year. (People whose only understanding of the situation there is from boards like this might be forgiven for thinking Thailand's transsexuals all work in the sex industry, but that is simply not the case; only a minority do.)

So straws are flying in the wind and it is possible that we are looking at the beginnings of the most important social changes since the establishment of universal electoral franchise, and which might just roll up the carpet of a grim, dualistic and repressive cultural heritage forever.

Which is nice. After all, you don't get anything much more challenging to a dualistic conception of gender than someone like Nok. Affirmative action in high heels. Wonderful.

[youngblood61]

It's unbelievable how many girls are out there today. If this is the Golden age it sure is off to a great start!:)

[danthepoetman]

I think MacShreach has made a lot of good points on how it is possible to transition either earlier or with better results then it ever was. But we can also see this strange trend of people literally transcending genres everywhere in pop culture. Especially in fashion, you have many male models who doesn’t identify as male anymore, live their lives in women’s clothes without changing their voices or taking hormones, modeling only as female and refusing to call themselves males anymore, refusing to call themselves either males or females. Some are amazingly feminine. It’s an androgyny trend, which obviously attacks the traditional way of viewing sexes socially. And many singers and artists fits into this category, like for instance Izzy Hilton. They’re obviously creating a real, deep confusion of genres, but in the end, they all come out as being much more feminine than masculine. These cultural trends, followed in society, are creating a culture which is becoming an incredibly fertile ground for what this forum is dedicated to. The tendencies and the diversity of our world is definitely constituting a golden age, from transgenderism, and it’s not slowing down. There is much, much more to come, in my opinion.

[MacShreach]

I'm trying to develop a PhD proposal on this right now--hell knows who might fund it though! But over the years I have become convinced that if you were to plot a graph of those who feel their birth sex matches their gender competely, to those who think it's a complete mismatch, ie 100% cisgendered to 100% transgendered, and corrected it for societal and peer pressures (remove the closet effect) you'd see a standard deviation curve. That would blow Blanchard's unhelpful quackery and pseudo-science out of the water and help establish a basis for more effective counselling and help (Dislike 'treatment' because being transgendered is not an illness) for those who are non-cisgendered.

[danthepoetman]

What was Blanchard's view on this?

[MacShreach]

What was Blanchard's view on this?
Ray Blanchard is the psychologist who developed the hypothesis that mtf transsexuals fell into two, and only two categoies: homosexual men and men who were suffering from an auto-erotic fetish which he called autogynephilia. He never considered the testimony of the many non-cisgendered individuals who repeatedly have stated that they simply don't feel they fit their birth sex, he never even began to consider ftm transsexuals, his methodology was so flawed I'd expect a 2cnd-year undergrad to rip it apart, he defined gender identity as a function of sexuality, which it isn't, and for which claim he had precisely zero supporting data and even worse, he decided that it was--or rather the two classes were--actually symptoms of mental disorder, again for which he had no evidence bar his own prejudice (Blanchard has no training in biology and his claim to be a scientist is at best questionable); in fact, Blanchard, along with Kurt Freund, his mentor, Mike Bailey his disciple and and Ken Zucker, is a quack of the most appalling order and yet, and yet, his unfounded beliefs have formed the basis of a welter of 'treatment' and thoroughly specious dsicussion of transsexualism, most of which is totally inappropriate. But don't let me prejudice you against him.

[danthepoetman]

But I remember someone presenting a broader typology, which recognized a “true” transsexualism, with very young kids saying from early childhood that they belonged to the other sex; a second type, for which the first manifestations where at around the beginning of puberty, who were also true transsexual, but on a lower “rank”; and people becoming transgenders as adults, who belonged to one or two different categories, one fetishistic and one more related to gender disphoria. I’m stating all of this from memory and it’s probably not accurate nor complete. But was it Benjamin? I certainly do remember such a more complex typology, and if memory serves, it was not as judgemental as what you stated of Blanchard’s, MacShreach. Am I right?

[MacShreach]

But I remember someone presenting a broader typology, which recognized a “true” transsexualism, with very young kids saying from early childhood that they belonged to the other sex; a second type, for which the first manifestations where at around the beginning of puberty, who were also true transsexual, but on a lower “rank”; and people becoming transgenders as adults, who belonged to one or two different categories, one fetishistic and one more related to gender disphoria. I’m stating all of this from memory and it’s probably not accurate nor complete. But was it Benjamin? I certainly do remember such a more complex typology, and if memory serves, it was not as judgemental as what you stated of Blanchard’s, MacShreach. Am I right?
I'm not sure who you're thinking of; Harry Benjamin proposed a scale of 7 categories (Benjamin scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_scale)) which progressed from occasional crossdresser to complete transsexual, and suggested some kinds of help. The scale passed more than a nod to Kinsey's scale. The HArry Benjamin Institute is still working BTW.

I think though you might be conflating this with some of Blanchard's ideas. Blanchard suggested that what he called 'homosexual transsexuals' presented early in life and what he called 'autogynephilic transsexuals' typically later. Benjamin's work predates Blanchard's by getting on for three decades and certainly comes from a more solid foundation in observation. Blanchard is from the same school of behavioural psychology as Ken 'get rid of the Barbies' Zucker, who, essentially, believes that transsexuals can be counselled out of transsexualism if 'treated' early enough; he said 'it's easier for someone to function in society as a homosexual man than as a transsexual woman.' I'll let you ponder that a moment.

Blanchard was a gatekeeper; he decided who could have SRS surgery through the institute he worked at and who could not, and those who could were the autogynephiles, since like Zucker, he thinks that 'homosexual transsexuals' can function fine as men. Both of these nutters were in lead roles in the last revision of DSM, the 'psychologist's bible' in which transsexualism was again defined as a fetishistic mental condition, which is enormously damaging to all transsexuals.

For me the most vulnerable group are the young mtf transsexuals for whom their own hormones are a ticking bomb. It is vital that they present early, are listened to early and are given testosterone-blockers early to delay puberty until they are able to make a fully informed decision. This therapy is completely reversible but unfortunately by catergorising transsexualism as a mental disorder rather than a neurological condition, or even a normal variation that may need some chemical therapy, some psychologists routinely delay or even argue against the administration of blockers because they reinforce (according to the psychologists) the condition. Sort of, 'get used to it and be a man, son. A homosexual one if you have to.' This is of no help to anyone.

[danthepoetman]

I see. Isn’t there any more recent researches which would present transsexuality in a more sensible, rigorous way. Or are Benjamin researches, although older, more adequate in circumscribing the phenomenon? Is there anyone whose studies would seem more satisfactory to you? Anyone that would describe the condition in an adequate fashion? In other words, would you suggest yourself some particular study on transsexualism? or some particular searcher, and why? What is the angle or viewpoint by which you think this should be envisioned?

[MacShreach]

I see. Isn’t there any more recent researches which would present transsexuality in a more sensible, rigorous way. Or are Benjamin researches, although older, more adequate in circumscribing the phenomenon? Is there anyone whose studies would seem more satisfactory to you? Anyone that would describe the condition in an adequate fashion? In other words, would you suggest yourself some particular study on transsexualism? or some particular searcher, and why? What is the angle or viewpoint by which you think this should be envisioned?
Wow that's a lot of questions. Research into transsexualism is notoriously poorly funded and so...there is not that much. More recent studies than Blanchard have suggested that transsexualism may have a neurological cause and be to do with the sequence of testosterone 'baths' that a foetus receives in the womb. This however does not explain ftm transsexualism. Differences between the brain structures of transsexuals and men that are similar to those between natal women and men also have the caveat that life changes those structures, so we don't know when these differences occurred.

On the other hand, varying degrees of transgenderism may simply be a completely natural example of biological variation which we should just get along with and accept, giving those who are not 100% cisgendered what medical (hormonal and surgical) aid that will help them best match their understanding of themselves; and at the same time, society needs to open up to this and to understand that, yes you can be a woman and have a penis, or a man and have a vagina, and also that this natural variation applies to those who are attracted to non-cisgendered people: we're not gay (necessarily) but expressing a natural variation in attraction. So we're not biblically straight but frankly who would want to be?

There must be a shedload of info in these very pages, but let me know how you get on and if searching doesn't get you anywhere I'll post some links