Threads that escalate into hate exchanges

[Prospero]

Seanchai posted an answer about this issue in another thread (put together in respect of a girl who was murdered) and rather than add a reply there, thus to the way that that thread has been hijacked, I thought it best to start a new discussion devoted to this.

Looking at that particular thread it seemed to escalate into a nasty little online fight over racism and associated issues - and it should have been nipped in the bud. All of us - that poster who sparked the argument and those of us who responded should have just kept quiet. (I know I joined the argument - but then I hate racism.)

Can I suggest to all people posting here. Right, centre and left - black and white - that arguments over racism, politics etc be confined to the politics and religion forum. Issues around racism are, after all, about some very fundamental political issues. It is nasty to take a thread about a girl who was murdered and turn it into an arena of conflict. Similarly many other threads are taken over with infighting - rude comments by one poster about another which have relation to the content of that thread (Nicole for instance has recently decided to attack Dino over a remark she says he made some time ago. I'm not singling her out. Just one very recent example i can think off.) .

Let's try to keep the rights to the right place. (Seanchai - I hope you don't feel I'm speaking out or order here. Just echoing your own sentiments I think.)

[Jericho]

Shut up! :whistle:



































But seriously, as long as people can snipe and shit on each other with faceless consequenceless anonymity, it's never going to happen. :shrug

[bluesoul]

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[shaustin]

It wouldn't be anywhere near as bad if after the second or third back and forth exchange either one side or the other just dropped it. But it seems that's half the reason the exchanges last so long, one side getting enjoyment out of attacking the other, and of course more often than not the 'other' is someone who is overbearing and so affirmed in their own ideals they are incapable of letting go. I say after a 'not directly related to the OP' fight reaches nearly a page the parties involved take the extra 60 seconds and just start a brand new thread for the discussion they so obviously want to have. If people could adhere to such a simple idea maybe the collateral damage to hijacked threads could be diminished to some extent.

[GroobySteven]

But seriously, as long as people can snipe and shit on each other with faceless consequenceless anonymity, it's never going to happen. :shrug

Well that's what this dude was doing ... until with a little detective work, I found out all about him (home address, place of work, etc.) - the veil of anonymity on the internet can be more transparent than many know.

To the original point though. I honestly believe, that for years there have been people posting here who have no interest in transsexuals but use it as a place to interject and project their racism and ideals out there. As this is a marginalized group of people already, there seems to be an undercurrent of a few people using this forum to their own ends.

Where do the moderators start - and end - in the banning or giving timeouts to people?

[Nicole Dupre]

(Nicole for instance has recently decided to attack Dino over a remark she says he made some time ago. I'm not singling her out. Just one very recent example i can think off.)

I didn't "recently" decide anything. I told him how fucked up he was then and I'll tell him now. Obviously his little comment went in one ear and out the other with you. But as a woman, I find it truly offensive. Anyone who says a woman, who was terrorized and eventually murdered, was "asking for it", from the father of her children no less, can ultimately suck a dick. And I dare him to deny it. (C'mon, Dino. Say it right here to refresh everyone's memory and be proud, you piece of fucking garbage. Let's hear it.)

And let's not forget, he was obviously seeking validation for being disturbed enough to eat bowel movements. If you want to, you can give it to him. Enable him all you like.But, personally, I think it's fucking gross. And it certainly has nothing to do with shemale porn, not to mention having nothing to do with admiring transsexual women. But let's be honest. Dino doesn't have a healthy appreciation of women, period.

[Wendy Summers]

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[Dino Velvet]

Just sweep up around me. Let me know how things turn out when I wake up.

[LibertyHarkness]

its an open forum ,, freedom of speech with people allowed to talk/express their personal views right or wrong ...

take it away and it and the forum will just die and become a ghost town forum like most of the other tranny forums ...

simple thing is just stay away from threads that are of this sort .... personally myself i only care for this forum simply to promote pictures/vids and abit of mild banter here and there .. otehr than that i have no care for this forum or any other social site ..

i think people get to much drawn into the debates etc ... it is what it is whether its right or wrong ...

[RallyCola]

+1 to libby's response

i have not read the thread in question...but seriously...all people have motives when they post and no matter how veiled or abrupt, every statement can be a point of conflict is someone wants it to be.

you have to self-edit and purposefully avoid threads that you feel have gone awry.

[Nicole Dupre]

I think if people want to say that an innocent woman deserved to be murdered in her own house, they're asking for it. So fuck him. I can have an opinion on him as much as he can have one about her.

[Nicole Dupre]

And btw there's no hatred here. I don't hate a soul. I just think he's a scumbag.

[yourdaddy]

its an open forum ,, freedom of speech with people allowed to talk/express their personal views right or wrong ...

take it away and it and the forum will just die and become a ghost town forum like most of the other tranny forums ...

simple thing is just stay away from threads that are of this sort .... personally myself i only care for this forum simply to promote pictures/vids and abit of mild banter here and there .. otehr than that i have no care for this forum or any other social site ..

i think people get to much drawn into the debates etc ... it is what it is whether its right or wrong ...


Here's another to go with seanchai's ridiculous defense of old Travon. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/07/beating-suspect-could-face-additional-charges-in-wwii-vet-death/

[lifeisfiction]

Every person is unique and for that reason some people will get along with others and some people no matter how nice will just rub each other the wrong way.

When will threads go south on HA (order not based on importance);

1. Views on Dating
2. Rumors
3. Valuation on anything, whether service or products etc.....
4. Hot button HA issues (Issue that arises from HA)
5. Personal Attacks
6. Percieved Personal Attacks
7. Staunch views stated that will knowingly start a fuss.
8. Personal fights brought onto the board
9. Controversial topics (well of course this is an obvious one)

and you can finish the list.

Its the nature of HA.

[robertlouis]

Here's another to go with seanchai's ridiculous defense of old Travon. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/07/beating-suspect-could-face-additional-charges-in-wwii-vet-death/

And here's another perfect example of Prospero's and Seanchai's points.

What exactly does this admittedly horrible incident have to with Trayvon Martin, Seanchai or anything else on this thread? Stirring the shit yet again for the sheer nasty hell of it.

You, mildcigar, are a bloody disgrace.

[Prospero]

Let me say that I did NOT call for imposed censorship. I am against that. I called - instead - for self restraint. For those who have controversial views to contain them to threads which are appropriate.

But i DO call for the barring of those things which are pure poison - i.e. incitement to hatred of minority groups. As evidenced by Mild Cigar/Yourdaddy's last post. The implicit message he wishes to send by posting that is lucid - a slur on African Americans.

[GroobySteven]

Here's another to go with seanchai's ridiculous defense of old Travon. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/07/beating-suspect-could-face-additional-charges-in-wwii-vet-death/

What the fuck has that got to do with anything?
You're ongoing racist agenda has just about reached it's conclusion on this board also.

[Cecil Rhodes]

Every person is unique and for that reason some people will get along with others and some people no matter how nice will just rub each other the wrong way.

When will threads go south on HA (order not based on importance);

1. Views on Dating
2. Rumors
3. Valuation on anything, whether service or products etc.....
4. Hot button HA issues (Issue that arises from HA)
5. Personal Attacks
6. Percieved Personal Attacks
7. Staunch views stated that will knowingly start a fuss.
8. Personal fights brought onto the board
9. Controversial topics (well of course this is an obvious one)

and you can finish the list.

Its the nature of HA.

10. Tattoos

[Nicole Dupre]

11. Naming yourself after closet homosexual ethnocentric diamond mining tycoons.

[Yvonne183]

Prospero, let's get off that high horse for just one moment. You are to blame just as others are for bad posts. it was you who put a picture up of a Walmart sign and saying if us Americans feel shame. Did you not think that would cause an argument when you posted it? Did you ever think that maybe the sign was Photoshopped? Did you actually go to that Walmart and see that sign? Even if that topic was posted in the politic section doesn't make it any less inflammatory. You are just as guilty as the rest for making bad posts.

Don't try and be nice guy now in this thread. If one goes back and read most of the guys on this forums posts they will find either hate or ones like yours,, baiting others into an argument. I read posts from way back and they are filled with arguing, this is nothing new on this forum. It makes me wonder why you recently wanted old posts deleted, I can only think of to erase hate posts you made.

I am sometimes baffled why guys come to a tgirl forum and then talk politics among themselves,, not many girls join them in their threads. Why even have these discussions are you lot that lonely?

As I said above, most guys on this forum have engaged in either hate or nasty remarks. I even got a nasty remark from Sean when I posed a question about copywrite. Did you Prospero, write a post condemning the hate? Even the owner of the site can write posts with hate, but that's OK, it's his forum, he is allowed, I understand that, my point was that all guys here seem to have their moments of hate words, just some call their hate words intelligent conversation.

Only a fool thinks anything will change on this forum. The only change I think would happen is the girls to disappear and leave the guys to argue politics till way in the future, when the nuclear bombs hit their heads and maybe that won't even stop the posting.

[Prospero]

Yvvonne - I didn't see the hate post you are referring to regarding your request for info on copyright.

And sorry i simply do not accept that i am "as guilty as the rest.' Yes i did post that walmart sign. I'd forgotten that. I thought it was funny. Perhaps i as wrong.

But you will NOT find any posts by me offering hatred to t girls, to people of an ethnic minority or to anyone else other than those who pollute this place with their own virulent hatred.

I am not trying to be holier than thou. I am simply hoping - most surely in vain - for a site where people use their intelligence rather than their anger. But there are many racist trolls here whose sole purpose is to stir controversy. Read all my other posts - lots of music, lots about art, lots of positive stuff about girls, reviews etc etc... my only angry posts are directed at the haters.

And yes - you are right - very few girls join in. They are wise.

[Yvonne183]

Yvvonne - I didn't see the hate post you are referring to regarding your request for info on copyright.

And sorry i simply do not accept that i am "as guilty as the rest.' Yes i did post that walmart sign. I'd forgotten that. I thought it was funny. Perhaps i as wrong.

But you will NOT find any posts by me offering hatred to t girls, to people of an ethnic minority or to anyone else other than those who pollute this place with their own virulent hatred.

I am not trying to be holier than thou. I am simply hoping - most surely in vain - for a site where people use their intelligence rather than their anger. But there are many racist trolls here whose sole purpose is to stir controversy. Read all my other posts - lots of music, lots about art, lots of positive stuff about girls, reviews etc etc... my only angry posts are directed at the haters.

And yes - you are right - very few girls join in. They are wise.

As I said above, some people call their hate posts "intelligent conversation" or maybe they call them "funny". But hate isn't just for racial or anti tgirl posts. There are other forms of hate, just some don't see it that way. So if one doesn't see hate in their posts then this will never be solved.

[Prospero]

Fair enough - if you want to read as hate remarks about films or musical postings from Youtube or remarks about one's fears about Republican policies on abortion or the possible threat of a swing to the hard right in France should the socialists fail or attacks on those who revile Muslims just for being Muslims or my word play in word association or comments about films i've seen... fine. That is your way of viewing the world Yvonne.

[Yvonne183]

Fair enough - if you want to read as hate remarks about films or musical postings from Youtube or remarks about one's fears about Republican policies on abortion or the possible threat of a swing to the hard right in France should the socialists fail or attacks on those who revile Muslims just for being Muslims or my word play in word association or comments about films i've seen... fine. That is your way of viewing the world Yvonne.

Let's not play games here. You seem to have some sort of intelligence,, you know exactly what I mean when I say hate posts.

[Prospero]

Final remark on this Yvonne... please post links to posts of mine which you would describe as pure hate posts. Thanks

[Nicole Dupre]

There used to be lots more girls here. Now you get a handful of newbies who eventually realize how fucked up it is and then they split. The whole wave of SMC girls are a dead issue it seems. They all wanted to ride a gravy train but they all found themselves still sucking dicks or cash, and having to do these indoor strolls called "parties" to try to make themselves seem relevant and not on the scrap heap. lol

Basically girls are just here to promote something now. It used to be nothing like that. HA's completely different now than the way it started. We didn't really have any English guys here except for Seanchai. Stavros? lol He would have been laughed off the forum with that Alfred the butler from Batman attitude of his. lol Dino was here from somewhat early on, but he didn't post as much with all this talk about shit and "i'm a retard and i just want your funhole" bullshit. He would have been told he was gross by EVERYONE. Trust me.

And the whole board was based around the Edelweiss scene anyway, which was where the meatpacking district stroll migrated to when it went indoors. The meatpacking district stroll was the northern point of the West Side gay scene. That was my old neighborhood, on Jane St. The VERY FIRST tranny street walkers in Manhattan were right outside my window. lol You couldn't go too far uptown because that's where GG hookers were, and they actually had pimps. lol

The original mods here are the original NYC tranny chasers basically. lol MEGABODY AND HIS ALL CAP POSTS have been gone for years now, unless he lurks. lol Chefmike, Nick the Quick, etc are both gone too. Who knows. Maybe they're all dead now. Gloria Wholesome and Ida's Silver Swan were the two main parties to go to when HA started. Then Allanah started having them, and she really raised the bar. Now there are like 5 of them competing here.

Imo this forum is very tired these days. Now I just come by now mostly out of curiosity. Yada yada yada...

[Yvonne183]

Final remark on this Yvonne... please post links to posts of mine which you would describe as pure hate posts. Thanks

I already did give you one example with the Walmart thread. And just like that thread, if I find any other posts that you made you will give some sort of excuse like saying it was meant to be "funny". You are not much different from Freddie in that way.

Nicole,, Jane St was a very nice street to live on, very beautiful, probably still is a lovely street. There was an English food store on Hudson near there that I went to a few times. I'm surprised that we never bumped into each other, but NYC was like that.

[Prospero]

LOL - I lived on Jane Street back in the very early 1980s when i as in NY for a time. Great location.

[Nicole Dupre]

God, I lived all over Manhattan back then. I lived on Jane for about 3 months. That was where I first beached my hair and dyed it pink. lol Then I moved to Park Ave right around the corner from the Armory. There were GG hookers in my building there. Interesting place. The Elton Hotel. lol Very sweet people. In general, Manhattan was a lot more fun then. Before that cocksucker Giuliani Disnified it.

[giovanni_hotel]

I'm for an 'anything goes' board, within reason.

There's a difference IMO when a TS provider shares her experience with Black johns for example that may come across as prejudiced or stereotypical, compared to the propaganda and ideological blinders that some members use to distort any and every thread on HA.

Adults should be able to discuss whatever without being deliberately or willfully offensive.
Posting a Walmart sign to me is NOT personally offensive, to me individually or as an American.

I don't think obvious sarcasm or 'teasing' should be construed on the same level as some of the filth posted on this board sometimes.

HA ostensibly is a porn forum so members should go in knowing many of the forum guidelines here are going to be less restrictive than on other boards. People are going to be obnoxious, some are going to talk shit for the hell of it. That's okay IMO.

But when someone's goal is to be deliberately offensive or insulting without reason(let's be honest, some people bring these shit storms on themselves for making idiotic comments) or in response to a prior comment by someone else, that's when that imaginary line is getting crossed.

I most of all know when I'm talking out of my ass and have no problem being called on it, but there are others who seem to be pushing an agenda that goes beyond the usual range of topics on this board.

For instance I would never put OMK and someone like yourdaddy/mildcigar etc. in the same category, even though I would say all of them are right leaning politically.

It's the fringe types on this board who crave to be heard and have their outlier opinions validated that are the most toxic on this board.

On another board I frequent the mods have this little trick when a thread veers too far off into the ditch; they LOCK it. You can go back and read what others have posted but you can't add anymore garbage to it.

It's not as heavy handed as an outright ban or thread deletion, but it does allow members to have an idea when convos are getting too personal or inappropriate/off topic.

HA is IMO the only successful board of this type on the interwebz, and it can't be only because of all the hot naked pics.lol

It seems as if we've had fewer personal attacks on TGs here which is great, now if some of the more overheated rhetoric could be toned down, all would be lovely.

[Nicole Dupre]

There are about 3 or 4 people who have stood out as the ultimate assholes and troublemakers over the years. Echimandu aka keepingitreal470 aka jigglygmoney is by far one of the biggest pussy dickheads to ever leave a trail of slime on this forum. He's threatened to kill at least 8 or 9 girls here in no uncertain terms. Him, I actually would laugh my ass off at if I heard someone slit his throat. That guy deserves to have his balls cut off and rammed up his powerbottom ass. There have been others too.

[lifeisfiction]

This thread has irony written all over it. Lols. From the first day I visited this forum till now. HA is drama, everyone scrapes and fights. I never seen so many strong opinionated people on a forum. Then again aren't many people like that in regular life? So many people come and go, but the fights are still over the same things with old and new players going at it. I think this forum needs a cage where people can go and fight it out and leave the rest of the to be less board roughed up.

[Nicole Dupre]

This thread has irony written all over it. Lols. DOH! lol

[Yvonne183]

I'm for an 'anything goes' board, within reason.


Adults should be able to discuss whatever without being deliberately or willfully offensive.
Posting a Walmart sign to me is NOT personally offensive, to me individually or as an American.

.

I think this is where the problem lies. One thing might be offense to one but not to another. When Fast made his first post in the Candy was killed thread, I found nothing offensive in his post yet others did. To me he was right on, he felt sorry for the girl and her family and found disgust in the criminal element without saying race in any way. I got confused cause I felt exactly the same way as he did, I felt sadness for the girl and a real disgust to the criminals and any bad words used towards any criminals is fine by me. Also, Fast's first post was not directed at any one poster, unlike others who directed their words towards posters. Hey, I am no different, I am also guilty of saying things that are offensive. But it seems that's the theme of this forum. To be offensive.

As you see, one person's offensive post is sometimes not offensive to others. And this will always be the issue. It's not always cut a dry to what is offensive and what isn't.

[Yvonne183]

It wasn't just a Walmart sign that bothered me. It was Prospero saying are Americans ashamed of the sign. That was what offended me. First of the sign could be a fake and another, aren't there Walmarts in the UK? The sign could be from a UK store. To me the point of the thread was not to be funny but to be confrontational, to cause an argument.

[Jericho]

Anyone got a link to this fukkin sign?
If i'm going to read about it, i might as well have a look at it.


(And, no, we don't have Walmarts...Though i believe Asda is owned by them)

[buttslinger]

Over on Ogrish.com you can post a pic of a raped and murdered 15 year old girl, or racial violence, and be applauded, but pornography is taboo, and if you post a pic of a dog you may have abused, fear for your life.

[Boomerang Man]

It wasn't just a Walmart sign that bothered me. It was Prospero saying are Americans ashamed of the sign. That was what offended me. First of the sign could be a fake and another, aren't there Walmarts in the UK? The sign could be from a UK store. To me the point of the thread was not to be funny but to be confrontational, to cause an argument.

Yvonne I think the politest way I can put this is that some things are lost in translation. Prospero was being "tongue in cheek", nothing else. I suggest you don't look for anything else because it really is not there.

[Jericho]

Yvonne I think the politest way I can put this is that some things are lost in translation. Prospero was being "tongue in cheek", nothing else. I suggest you don't look for anything else because it really is not there.

Yah, given the state of education in the UK, i'm thinking LP was being very tongue in cheek! :geek:

[LibertyHarkness]

lol people breathe far to much into things on this forum ..its a porn/sex forum isnt 90% of the usage people whacking off to the free pics/links etc ... the amount of poeple that actually post in relation to the total number of mmenbers is a mad figure indeed ..

I see the same names posting/chatting all hte time ... its rare when new people come on ... same girls (myself included) posting their updates, same dickheads kicking off at people etc .. i just see it for what it is ,, a bit of amusement and not to be taken seriously at all ... for me the only reason i post here is simply i earn from money being on here .. the day i stop earning money is when i stop posting ...

I think many people (guys) just like chatting shit with others out of boredom , amusement etc ,, they dont take it to seriously .. trolling on other hand is an artform to a professional troll poster that get their ckicks in trolling multiple forums .. generally a troll here on HA will be trolling at least 2 other places ..

Chillax people its just the interwebz,, if oyu dont like what people say, block them .. job done .. or dont look at threads that you know are going to kick off shit storms ..

my thoughts on it all anyway lol

[TsVanessa69]

There are about 3 or 4 people who have stood out as the ultimate assholes and troublemakers over the years. Echimandu aka keepingitreal470 aka jigglygmoney is by far one of the biggest pussy dickheads to ever leave a trail of slime on this forum. He's threatened to kill at least 8 or 9 girls here in no uncertain terms. Him, I actually would laugh my ass off at if I heard someone slit his throat. That guy deserves to have his balls cut off and rammed up his powerbottom ass. There have been others too.
i was waiting for him when i went to nyc, i was mad i didnt get that asswhopping he promised and swore he was gonna give me

[onmyknees]

Yvvonne - I didn't see the hate post you are referring to regarding your request for info on copyright.

And sorry i simply do not accept that i am "as guilty as the rest.' Yes i did post that walmart sign. I'd forgotten that. I thought it was funny. Perhaps i as wrong.

But you will NOT find any posts by me offering hatred to t girls, to people of an ethnic minority or to anyone else other than those who pollute this place with their own virulent hatred.

I am not trying to be holier than thou. I am simply hoping - most surely in vain - for a site where people use their intelligence rather than their anger. But there are many racist trolls here whose sole purpose is to stir controversy. Read all my other posts - lots of music, lots about art, lots of positive stuff about girls, reviews etc etc... my only angry posts are directed at the haters.

And yes - you are right - very few girls join in. They are wise.


Here's the problem with your premise.....politics are everywhere. On NBA telecasts, on Saturday Night Live, on the Evening News, in churches and synagogues, in places of employment, the courts, so to weed it out here seems a bit of a pipe dream, although I wish it were possible. There's little self discipline to be found here. It's sort of like an NFL football game where the referee never sees the initial dirty play, but always catches the guy retaliating and penalizes him. The point is...this being the internet, someone is always going to inject an opinion into a thread....and someone is going to respond...it's both what makes the internet so appealing, and so toxic at the same time. So when someone introduces a thread like "Obama is Smooth" is that a political thread? I'm guessing you think it wasn't.....others saw it differently...so who decides...You?
If someone saw that as a political post, and responded with counter flattery, would that trigger you to envoke your self imposed rule about only responding to "haters" ?

Would you be impartial enough to arbitrate if asked? Are we going to hold Buck Johnson and his racial tirade to the same standard as the posters who seemed to offend you so in Senachi's post? Johnson's post didn't offend me in the least...it was a moment of honesty and revelation. I prefer that. Your post regarding Wal-Mart is another example. You claim you meant no disrespect , but a level headed Yvonne clearly saw it differently. So is it only political or racist or demeaning if it's your ox being gored?

In the end, it's rather pointless to argue about politics anyway, albeit entertaining at times. Your experiences are not mine, your country is not mine, and neither of us is going to convince the other. In this small way we're in agreement .....I'll never initiate a political or racial thread on the GD boards, and I'm fine with being the guy who gets penalized for retaliating.

[jimbo1974]

Ive only been here 5 minutes - you lot are right argumentative twats lol

[Helvis2012]

Some people come with an agenda.

[buckjohnson]

11. Naming yourself after closet homosexual ethnocentric diamond mining tycoons.


Thank you.

[Prospero]

Remarkble - OMK and I sort of agree.

[robertlouis]

Here's the problem with your premise.....politics are everywhere. On NBA telecasts, on Saturday Night Live, on the Evening News, in churches and synagogues, in places of employment, the courts, so to weed it out here seems a bit of a pipe dream, although I wish it were possible. There's little self discipline to be found here. It's sort of like an NFL football game where the referee never sees the initial dirty play, but always catches the guy retaliating and penalizes him. The point is...this being the internet, someone is always going to inject an opinion into a thread....and someone is going to respond...it's both what makes the internet so appealing, and so toxic at the same time. So when someone introduces a thread like "Obama is Smooth" is that a political thread? I'm guessing you think it wasn't.....others saw it differently...so who decides...You?
If someone saw that as a political post, and responded with counter flattery, would that trigger you to envoke your self imposed rule about only responding to "haters" ?

Would you be impartial enough to arbitrate if asked? Are we going to hold Buck Johnson and his racial tirade to the same standard as the posters who seemed to offend you so in Senachi's post? Johnson's post didn't offend me in the least...it was a moment of honesty and revelation. I prefer that. Your post regarding Wal-Mart is another example. You claim you meant no disrespect , but a level headed Yvonne clearly saw it differently. So is it only political or racist or demeaning if it's your ox being gored?

In the end, it's rather pointless to argue about politics anyway, albeit entertaining at times. Your experiences are not mine, your country is not mine, and neither of us is going to convince the other. In this small way we're in agreement .....I'll never initiate a political or racial thread on the GD boards, and I'm fine with being the guy who gets penalized for retaliating.

I agree with just about all of that too, especially in the final paragraph. Respect where it's due. I doff my hat to you, omk.

But there's no doubt that an awful lot of recent threads posted under general discussion firmly belong in the politics and religion section. Let's face it, there's enough hate and bitchery already in the general threads without importing it from elsewhere.

Either people are being lazy or careless when they start these threads, or they just enjoy kicking off something that they know will turn into a shitstorm simply because more people will read it.

[hippifried]

I hate you all!

FUCK YOU!


*Is it escalation or devolution?

[Prospero]

Hippiefried... are you a former member of the manson Family or the family Dogg?

[Stavros]

We didn't really have any English guys here except for Seanchai. Stavros? lol He would have been laughed off the forum with that Alfred the butler from Batman attitude of his. l

Are you read for your tea now, Madam? And may I remind you that the two detectives are still waiting for you in the drawing room...

(Ps I liked the Silver Swan, it was a cool place)

[oifarang]

There are about 3 or 4 people who have stood out as the ultimate assholes and troublemakers over the years. Echimandu aka keepingitreal470 aka jigglygmoney is by far one of the biggest pussy dickheads to ever leave a trail of slime on this forum. He's threatened to kill at least 8 or 9 girls here in no uncertain terms. Him, I actually would laugh my ass off at if I heard someone slit his throat. That guy deserves to have his balls cut off and rammed up his powerbottom ass. There have been others too.

Don't forget Knightrider !

[Nicole Dupre]

Don't forget Knightrider !
He was a pain the ass. But Nightrider wasn't overtly racist, and he didn't threaten anyone to the best of my recollection. He was just a coked up jackass with a big mouth.

He originally came here asking questions about transitioning, supposedly "researching things for a friend". He then disappeared for about a month, and came back with some extreme opinions on which transsexuals here he found to be attractive. Initially, he found me attractive until I suggested that he not post here 24/7 and that he try to be a little more pleasant towards ALL of the girls. Of course, that's when he went ballistic on me.