Gay men disliking trans women?

[maddygirl]

Now, when I say this I'm not talking about ALL gay males, since my brother is gay and he's very accepting of me, however, I have noticed a lot of gay men seem to have a problem with trans girls. It really gets under my skin that so many of them think that because they don't understand us that it isn't reality or that we're just effeminate men. Of course they don't understand, THEY'RE MEN. I'm a woman, they're men, and I'm sick of so many of them thinking we're on the same level somehow. I truly don't understand why people even compare trans girls and gay men.... People say, well weren't you a gay boy before transitioning? And, the answer is 100 % NO. To be a gay guy you have to have a male brain, male identity, and see yourself with another male, all of which I've never had and/or wanted. Sorry if this is a bit of rant but it just seems like a lot of gay men have this underlying hatred towards trans girls in general. They want acceptance and tolerance but a lot of them aren't willing to accept us for who we are.

[top4bigbutt]

Now, when I say this I'm not talking about ALL gay males, since my brother is gay and he's very accepting of me, however, I have noticed a lot of gay men seem to have a problem with trans girls. It really gets under my skin that so many of them think that because they don't understand us that it isn't reality or that we're just effeminate men. Of course they don't understand, THEY'RE MEN. I'm a woman, they're men, and I'm sick of so many of them thinking we're on the same level somehow. I truly don't understand why people even compare trans girls and gay men.... People say, well weren't you a gay boy before transitioning? And, the answer is 100 % NO. To be a gay guy you have to have a male brain, male identity, and see yourself with another male, all of which I've never had and/or wanted. Sorry if this is a bit of rant but it just seems like a lot of gay men have this underlying hatred towards trans girls in general. They want acceptance and tolerance but a lot of them aren't willing to accept us for who we are.

I'm pretty open minded so : don't worry about the FAGOTS, they just are not in to girls, no matter the gender
Live and let live
Stay safe

[Nicole Dupre]

Some love us. Some loathe us. Feminine gay men are often at the bottom of the gay male food chain themselves.

[bluesoul]

I'm pretty open minded so : don't worry about the FAGOTS, they just are not in to girls, no matter the gender


wait... 2 genders of females?

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[sensuelle]

They are just jealous, most of them can't handle the fact that there are a lot of "straight"men that are into ts's but that those same men dont want have anything to do with gays guys.

[Jackal]

Some gay men also dislike lesbian women, bisexual men and bisexual women....just because someone is a minority in one way does not guarantee that he or she is open-minded and accepting overall.

[Bobzz]

Some gay men also dislike lesbian women, bisexual men and bisexual women....just because someone is a minority in one way does not guarantee that he or she is open-minded and accepting overall.

The big fallacy (phallus-y?) is that gay men are, by and large, accepting of other sexual minorities (like the other letters in LGBT). That has not been my personal experience in the least. Quite a few are even hostile to heteros in general and even more so to the notion that some married couples swing or have open marriages. I get the fact that just about any marginalized group is going to have issues with the "other" group or groups but in these instances it creates an odd sort of pecking order that really holds back the acceptance of sexual diversity in general. Just sayin....

[Bobzz]

They are just jealous, most of them can't handle the fact that there are a lot of "straight"men that are into ts's but that those same men dont want have anything to do with gays guys.

:iagree:

[jimbo1974]

Jeez - you guys love sticking labels on people dont you ?

I very much doubt all gay men hate trannies. I expect some do, but thats not particularly earth shattering is it ?

[KittyPride]

I do not have a problem with gay men....
Also I think that MOST MEN expect us to be like them somehow... (no matter how feminine you are). The moment you tell them you are a TS... most men think that you must be somehow "on their side".
I would say. Use this to your advantage. Most men like us to be on their side anyway.

Also I rather be compared to gay men... then to straight men.
I have more in commen to gay men then I have with most straight men.

The transgender world is largerly made up of straight men wanting to be woman.
I rather be seen as an feminine boy then as a straight men who wants to be a woman.

Now that I would find really insulting and I would take offense.

[KittyPride]

Feminine gay men are often at the bottom of the gay male food chain themselves.

True. The time I still lived as a boy no guy ever showed any interest in me.
Now its easy to get guys. Its really odd.
A lot of gay men also love men...straight like men... just like i do.

[Jackal]

Huh? Maybe this is lost in translation, but gay men are attracted to men. If not, they would not be gay. For men, gay means attracted to only other men, straight means attracted to only women, bisexual means attracted to men and women, etc.

Back on topic, not surprising that someone is not necessarily accepting just because he or she has also been discriminated against. Bisexual men and women often complain about being harassed or shunned by gays/lesbians.

[TSLexiWade]

It's almost like, "To each their own" in this type of situation.. Luckily, I can say that I've met many gay males, including pornstars - and was even asked to be a presenter at this years 2012 Grabby Awards in Chicago, IL on May 26th.


www.Grabbys.com


So, in my honest opinion... Most of them are accepting. <3

[irvin66]

I am a straight man and I like tgirls and "normal" girls, but not men. They are nasty to look at naked. :geek:

[smooth007]

Yeh me too, I would never be turned on by men. I just love women too much be it with a cock or without one. I just appreciate beautiful ladies who make my cock go hard. I think gay men are jealous of Transwomen because transwomen can do what they cant and thats turn on a "straight" man.

[jamesedwards]

WTF? Confusing as fuck!!!!

[maddygirl]

I do not have a problem with gay men....
Also I think that MOST MEN expect us to be like them somehow... (no matter how feminine you are). The moment you tell them you are a TS... most men think that you must be somehow "on their side".
I would say. Use this to your advantage. Most men like us to be on their side anyway.

Also I rather be compared to gay men... then to straight men.
I have more in commen to gay men then I have with most straight men.

The transgender world is largerly made up of straight men wanting to be woman.
I rather be seen as an feminine boy then as a straight men who wants to be a woman.

Now that I would find really insulting and I would take offense.
No offense but I don't want to be associated with any type of man because I'm not a man. Being called a feminine boy or compared to one (to me) is extremely offensive. I want men to realize I'm not one of them, never have been, and never will be.

[ditadior]

I have no problem with homosexual men, but the majority of them like 80% of them have a problem with us.
To that (self guessed estimate) 20% of the other men I accociate with, talk to, be friend and have respect for. The other bottom feeding homosexual men can all go fuck their asses til they bleed out and disappear.

I love when minorities hate minorities I know we arent all going to love eachother and if we do it won't be anytime soon.

But really.. the majority of ignorance, prejuduce and jealousy is so sad.

It's not my fault hooch that I get the men I am attracted to and they want me, and you you poor homosexual man that is ignorant to me will never get your fantasy fufilled because that man you want will never want to touch your flaming hole.

xxoxox

[KittyPride]

No offense but I don't want to be associated with any type of man because I'm not a man. Being called a feminine boy or compared to one (to me) is extremely offensive. I want men to realize I'm not one of them, never have been, and never will be.

So why the need to convince anyone when you are so sure about that...
I completely accept myself as i am, i know who i am, what i am (a woman), i like recognition but only when it comes spontaniously...im not going to be mad about someone not seeing me for who i am...that is their perspective and judgement...i wont be able to change that anyway...but it does not make me less a woman....i know who and what i am...if recognition does not come spontaniously, im not interested in it...its truth i like...and im only getting that when i do not force people to please me...

[nina_lisa]

Feminine gay men are often at the bottom of the gay male food chain themselves.

While this is true, when i looked like a fem (i was taking hormone and had facial laser hair removal, but did not look fem enought to dress like a girl) androgynous boy, at gay bar a lot of gay men bought me a drink. Once it was more obvious i was transitioning they lost interest in me.

[canihavu]

Gay men are funny...

[maddygirl]

Yeah I understand, I think it's one of the reasons I don't tell many people I'm trans, theres just too much crap that comes with it.

[KittyPride]

Yeah I understand, I think it's one of the reasons I don't tell many people I'm trans, theres just too much crap that comes with it.

Yeah thats true...i think a lot like you...i also dont like the crap...its also why i study the crap by posting on hungangels...i dont like to be suprised by it...
After some time you get used to some of the crap because it does not suprise you...
And as long as i can live as a woman and date a sweet bf (who is straight) its the best recognition and i dont care what the world thinks....people are very limited to their own projections/perspectives and view the world through their own eyes....but in the end...its all meaningless...
Im a woman despite what they think...
Also i am different i know that...thats why i remain non op...i dont hate my penis...and i have always been different...so to try to be normal can be very dangerous...
:) im starting to like being different...as in different from most woman....its a plus because what makes me different i no longer see as a defect but as my quality :)

[lovethissite]

Every one makes great points on this subject. In my experience I agree with the fact that feminine gay men get upset that a straight/bi guy likes ts and not them, its kinda of a competition, who can make the straight/bi guy choose the feminine gay go over the ts. Its like a notch on there belt if the straight/bi guy chooses them over the ts. Not fact just observations I have seen over the years and just my opinion, so don't get upset if you disagree, we all have our opinions

[GrimFusion]

They are just jealous, most of them can't handle the fact that there are a lot of "straight"men that are into ts's but that those same men dont want have anything to do with gays guys.

Yes. Some of them think transsexuals rob the gay community of men who would otherwise be attracted to men. Fallacy much? Probably.

[BellaBellucci]

They are just jealous, most of them can't handle the fact that there are a lot of "straight"men that are into ts's but that those same men dont want have anything to do with gays guys.

Bingo.

~BB~

[tsadriana]

Some gays think that we are very confused with our sexuality ,tottally wrong there gay boys....we are not male or female we are the "THIRD SEX " , sugar gays lol...we make the world to look so sensuous....imao lol

[Tiffany Anne]

No offense but I don't want to be associated with any type of man because I'm not a man. Being called a feminine boy or compared to one (to me) is extremely offensive. I want men to realize I'm not one of them, never have been, and never will be.

I'm sorry...which group is supposed to be hating which group?



I'm sick of so many of them thinking we're on the same level somehow.


uhm.....yeah.....



They want acceptance and tolerance but a lot of them aren't willing to accept us for who we are.
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Yeah, ain't it a bitch when that happens. :roll:

[tsadriana]

Yes me i dislike gays alot and not because they are gay is because they think we took their place...Sorry gays u wanted up ur arse be a fucking tranny ...Not to bearded men fucking and sucking each other i find it very repulsive is my opnion and i dont care what people says...At least if i wanted up my arse i look like a girl not like a man ...Is disgusting and ive always said that 2 men i find it very repulsive but is their life and i dont give a shit till im not compared with them.

[tsadriana]

ANd by the way gay /poofs if u read my posts pls be aware that ive always disliked u u dont have the right to judges at least we fight for what we are ,in change u take only up ur arse and thats it nothing more...u want to make str8 world a gay world?till transexuals are alive this world will never become a gay world.thats ur frustration gay boys and thanks to transexuals men still can have kids and wives ,if it will be up to u the world will become empty wthout women and transexuals....poofs

[tsadriana]

If this site will become a gay site to then i recomend to other tss to dellete their profile in respect for what we are....the name is HA shemale site not poofy site and i wont be happy to be compared with them.

[tsadriana]

And to repeat myself .GAYS i dont hate u ,i just dislike u and i dont want u to be here is not the place and is not right.

[maddygirl]

I'm sorry...which group is supposed to be hating which group?



uhm.....yeah.....



Yeah, ain't it a bitch when that happens. :roll:[/QUOTE]
Which group is supposed to be hating which group? So me saying I don't want to be called a man or associated with them is hating? Um sorry if I'm a woman who would prefer to look like a woman and be treated as such. I'm not hating gay men, but I have nothing in common with them and I think it's pretty obvious why I find that offensive. What woman do you know who would be OK with being compared to a man? Probably not many..