Can tgirls really find true love?

[jessicamoore]

Im 40 and ive never really had love

and if i thought i did they lied or cheated

so my idea of love is nothing

even if a tgirl is n a relationship does it mean her man is a cheater

with women and tgirls

i dont trust any guy

im sure there are honest men out here but i havent found him yet

im a verse tgirl so i have alot to offer

[maddygirl]

I sure hope so

[Wendy Summers]

I've had a number of relationships since transitioning which were good... they ended for various reasons that any non-trans related relationship would end.

[jimbo1974]

so my idea of love is nothing

Thats really sad to hear hun

Finding love is a LOT down to luck. Keep pluggin away

Good luck x

[jessicamoore]

Ive gave up after my last disaster of a relationship

im not even looking anymore

i like my own company anyway so a relationship isnt important to me

[jessicamoore]

In my daily life when im not shopping etc guys always thinking im a porn star or some cheap slut that would suck thme off in back of a empty building or such no respect, its always something sexual out a guys mouth whatever happened to "hi my name is ----- would you like to go out and get to know each other"

[tommy001]

Two ways to look at this, The guys you found have spoiled it for the genuine guys you might find in the future. And you were lucky you found out about their lies and cheating when you did.

[TsVanessa69]

Ive been in long term relationships, been in love twice.
i know many sisters in long term loving relationships, it is possible. But like my female friend says, its not if you are a female or trans woman, its the men. A good man is hard to find and some of us wont settle for Mr Right now. I dont date men for their money or job, i have my own. i want a dude who is fun, likes to live in the real world with me in a normal way. sadly i met what i hoped was a guy i could be in a relationship with, but his drug addiction killed that. he even apologized and said he would leave me alone until he got it under control or help for it.

Don't give up, when it happens it will be worth it.

[runningdownthatdream]

Women need to stop blaming men and look to their own actions which generally encourage and reward ill-mannered men. Why do the guys who are the biggest jerks always have a woman on their arm - sometimes several? Generally I have found that men strive to achieve (whether wealth or status) to impress women so should women change their expectations of women then men will change how they behave.

[Jericho]

If your dog jumps over the fence, maybe you should be putting down better food! :shrug

[giovanni_hotel]

More people now are deciding to live single than ever before, according to Census statistics.
I imagine it's harder for transwomen, but GGs have the exact same complaints until many have just stopped looking for true love and a LTR unless it accidentally knocks them over the head when they weren't looking.lol

IMO guys do what they can get away with. If a lady sets down rules for what she expects in a relationship, it's harder to get blindsided when the other half doesn't keep up their end of the bargain.

If a woman expects a man to be a prince in a relationship, I would hope that a woman remembers she needs to be his queen.
Some women expect everything but put no expectations on themselves about what they're supposed to bring to the table to make a relationship work.

[GrimFusion]

Im 40 and ive never really had love
and if i thought i did they lied or cheated
so my idea of love is nothing
even if a tgirl is n a relationship does it mean her man is a cheater
with women and tgirls
i dont trust any guy
im sure there are honest men out here but i havent found him yet
im a verse tgirl so i have alot to offer

I think there's a lot more that plays into the equation of repeated shitty relationships that you're probably not aware of. Some if it has more to do with you than him. If I could offer some advice, it'd be switch up the kind of dudes you'd consider dating. Don't go after a certain type. Find a different place to meet men. If you usually hit clubs, save the flirty stuff for afternoons out shopping. I know that sounds corny as hell, but you're more liable to meet more upstanding men in a grocery store or a mall than at a club.

If you escort or porn model, you're likely not going to have a "normal" relationship with any dude. Even if it's your source of income and he's living off of it, revenge usually equates to cheating. It's not impossible to work in the industry and have a successful relationship, but it's not likely either.

If a dude acts interested in a relationship just after the first or second time you two bone, that's an obvious red-flag. If he doesn't know enough about you to even know if the two of you get along, kick that fuck to the curb because the only thing he's interested in is sex on the regular. The minute you get too busy or aren't around, he's off humping somebody else.

Lastly, it's pretty common to get out of a few crappy relationships and end up imposing your trust issues on the new guy. Not only is that unfair, but eventually you'll keep dating the same type of dumb shits that inherently cheat on you just to prove yourself right and come out of it hurt, but justified. Admittedly, it's a lot easier to find guys at the same place you've been finding guys and date dudes who act or resemble guys you've already dated, but if you really want a good relationship, you should think about breaking that pattern.

[Jericho]

If a woman expects a man to be a prince in a relationship, I would hope that a woman remembers she needs to be his queen.
Some women expect everything but put no expectations on themselves about what they're supposed to bring to the table to make a relationship work.

QFT
You put that much better than i did. :lol:

[bluesoul]

In my daily life when im not shopping etc guys always thinking im a porn star or some cheap slut that would suck thme off in back of a empty building or such no respect, its always something sexual out a guys mouth whatever happened to "hi my name is ----- would you like to go out and get to know each other"

in your first post in this thread you posted 2 nude pictures of yourself which undermine your frustration of looking for love. unlike tsvanessa, i'd say start looking at within and asking some serious questions

[KittyPride]

More people now are deciding to live single than ever before, according to Census statistics.
I imagine it's harder for transwomen, but GGs have the exact same complaints until many have just stopped looking for true love and a LTR unless it accidentally knocks them over the head when they weren't looking.lol

IMO guys do what they can get away with. If a lady sets down rules for what she expects in a relationship, it's harder to get blindsided when the other half doesn't keep up their end of the bargain.

If a woman expects a man to be a prince in a relationship, I would hope that a woman remembers she needs to be his queen.
Some women expect everything but put no expectations on themselves about what they're supposed to bring to the table to make a relationship work.

Personally I think setting bounderies is exactly what makes men cheat. Its more exciting... and most men do not want to feel like a prisoner in a relationship.

[jessicamoore]

First off
just becuase i posted a nude pic has nothing to do with me being a good person in a relationship most jerks up here are just looking to get off so i wouldnt expect to find love on a site called "hungangels"

secondly i dont look for jerks they usually dont tell the truth in the beginning until the truth comes out in the end, im not perfect but i dont drink, smoke, do drugs or cheat and i ralery go out to clubs, i pay my bills so im not looking for a sugar daddy, being transexual can sometimes make it harder for guys to accept themselves being with a ts in main society, i dont date dl men and i wil not lowere myself to just date and take in bums off the street. Im sure real women have the same issues but im talking about myself every person love lif isnt the same might be similiar but not the same so like i said i dont trust men at all and im staying single until----------------------------------------------------

[Nicole Dupre]

M2F transsexuals do not generally find secure relationships with men, and almost never have solid marriages. We can't give men the things that they keep GGs around for mostly; to give them kids and to confirm their heterosexuality. And it has nothing to do with how beautiful or unclockable we are. We just ultimately can't compete with real fish. M2F TS's are "cursed", for lack of a better word. Just because we cover up the symptoms, we're still born with the handicap; the wrong plumbing. I accepted this situation as a kid. When I saw in my early teens how Tula was dumped right before her wedding, I knew right then and there how futile wanting the 'white picket fence dream' really was. It's a compromise we're forced to make but we make the best of it. But that's why the men in our lives are almost never irreplaceable. But don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that there's no love out there for us. We may love a man or two, and they may love us right back. But we can't share with them the things GGs do. Gay men accept this early on, and so do we if we're smart. I'm not bitter about it, if it sounds that way. It's just the way our lives are. Breeders don't necessarily have life so much better. I wouldn't trade places with anyone.

[KittyPride]

M2F transsexuals do not generally find secure relationships with men, and almost never have solid marriages. We can't give men the things that they keep GGs around for mostly; to give them kids and to confirm their heterosexuality. And it has nothing to do with how beautiful or unclockable we are. We just ultimately can't compete with real fish. M2F TS's are "cursed", for lack of a better word. Just because we cover up the symptoms, we're still born with the handicap; the wrong plumbing. I accepted this situation as a kid. When I saw in my early teens how Tula was dumped right before her wedding, I knew right then and there how futile wanting the 'white picket fence dream' really was. It's a compromise we're forced to make but we make the best of it. But that's why the men in our lives are almost never irreplaceable. But don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that there's no love out there for us. We may love a man or two, and they may love us right back. But we can't share with them the things GGs do. Gay men accept this early on, and so do we if we're smart. I'm not bitter about it, if it sounds that way. It's just the way our lives are. Breeders don't necessarily have life so much better. I wouldn't trade places with anyone.

And there are guys out there that do not want kids... and do not want to be tricked into having kids...not everybody is looking to be a breeder.
For those men Twoman can be great... cause we... like them... are more or less free of those ties and can decide what to do with our lives... its a freedom that comes with pain at times... but it can be a freedom also.
We arent stuck and we usually arent boring...

[jessicamoore]

Nicole i totally agree i never thought be ts was better than real women, most guys only seee tgirls as sex objects, fantasies
and the most of the guys who do date ts comes with bags, on drugs, homeless, just getting out of jail im not trying to support no dudes just to have a man in my life im happy with myself men are secondary to my life.

[bluesoul]

First off
just becuase i posted a nude pic has nothing to do with me being a good person in a relationship most jerks up here are just looking to get off so i wouldnt expect to find love on a site called "hungangels"

secondly i dont look for jerks they usually dont tell the truth in the beginning until the truth comes out in the end, im not perfect but i dont drink, smoke, do drugs or cheat and i ralery go out to clubs, i pay my bills so im not looking for a sugar daddy, being transexual can sometimes make it harder for guys to accept themselves being with a ts in main society, i dont date dl men and i wil not lowere myself to just date and take in bums off the street. Im sure real women have the same issues but im talking about myself every person love lif isnt the same might be similiar but not the same so like i said i dont trust men at all and im staying single until----------------------------------------------------

yeah that's all great to hear, except in your first post you said the guys you dated turned out to be liars- but now you're saying you won't lower yourself to take in bums of the street. also, i'm glad to hear you pay your bills. if you didn't, they shut you off and that would affect your credit.

[Nicole Dupre]

And there are guys out there that do not want kids... and do not want to be tricked into having kids...not everybody is looking to be a breeder.
For those men Twoman can be great... cause we... like them... are more or less free of those ties and can decide what to do with our lives... its a freedom that comes with pain at times... but it can be a freedom also.
We arent stuck and we usually arent boring...
Seriously, I don't want to discuss anything with you. I don't believe you're a TS at all. I'm putting you ignore now. Please do the same with me.

[jessicamoore]

Look idiot if you read my first post i said im 40 yrs old so i must be talking about back then in past relationships
i havent dated in years

[KittyPride]

Seriously, I don't want to discuss anything with you. I don't believe you're a TS at all. I'm putting you ignore now. Please do the same with me.

It does not matter what you believe Nicole... doesnt change anything

[jessicamoore]

He must be one of the asshole im talking about

[KittyPride]

You should get to know your partners better before you hit the sack with them Jessica.
And the way you present yourself here... you are bound to be dating the same men, over and over again...

Unless YOU decide to do things differently and to choose a man that really is able to care about you.

[bluesoul]

Look idiot if you read my first post i said im 40 yrs old so i must be talking about back then in past relationships
i havent dated in years

i don't like to assume anything because i could be wrong. and am not sure why you said you didn't expect to find love on hungangels- the guide to shemales and transsexual forum. there is a personals section here and even a ladies room. i also suggest posting your picture in the thread titled "self snapshots" or something like that. you just never know where mister "right" will be masturbating

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=467921&stc=1&d=1335301786

[KittyPride]

i don't like to assume anything because i could be wrong. and am not sure why you said you didn't expect to find love on hungangels- the guide to shemales and transsexual forum. there is a personals section here and even a ladies room. i also suggest posting your picture in the thread titled "self snapshots" or something like that. you just never know where mister "right" will be masturbating

lol!

[GrimFusion]

i don't like to assume anything because i could be wrong. and am not sure why you said you didn't expect to find love on hungangels- the guide to shemales and transsexual forum. there is a personals section here and even a ladies room. i also suggest posting your picture in the thread titled "self snapshots" or something like that. you just never know where mister "right" will be masturbating


Quit trying to drum up drama, dude.

[lifeisfiction]

M2F transsexuals do not generally find secure relationships with men, and almost never have solid marriages. We can't give men the things that they keep GGs around for mostly; to give them kids and to confirm their heterosexuality. And it has nothing to do with how beautiful or unclockable we are. We just ultimately can't compete with real fish. M2F TS's are "cursed", for lack of a better word. Just because we cover up the symptoms, we're still born with the handicap; the wrong plumbing. I accepted this situation as a kid. When I saw in my early teens how Tula was dumped right before her wedding, I knew right then and there how futile wanting the 'white picket fence dream' really was. It's a compromise we're forced to make but we make the best of it. But that's why the men in our lives are almost never irreplaceable. But don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that there's no love out there for us. We may love a man or two, and they may love us right back. But we can't share with them the things GGs do. Gay men accept this early on, and so do we if we're smart. I'm not bitter about it, if it sounds that way. It's just the way our lives are. Breeders don't necessarily have life so much better. I wouldn't trade places with anyone.

??????????? Hmmmm, different strokes for different folks.

[Nicole Dupre]

Nicole i totally agree i never thought be ts was better than real women, most guys only seee tgirls as sex objects, fantasies
and the most of the guys who do date ts comes with bags, on drugs, homeless, just getting out of jail im not trying to support no dudes just to have a man in my life im happy with myself men are secondary to my life.
I rely on myself and I always have. If I don't fall in love again, I won't be shocked. I can have a nice relationship with a man along with lots of great sex, easily. But actually being in love is something else. I've been in real love twice. And both men were no good for me. I still miss one of them. He lives in Florida. We still talk every now and then. But it's that "bad romance" that Lady Gaga talks about. lol There were lots of extreme emotions brought to the surface with him, both good and bad.

[Nicole Dupre]

??????????? Hmmmm, different strokes for different folks.
What "strokes"? I'm talking about human nature and what I've seen. The most beautiful transsexuals are often never in a good LTR; not like the ones married GGs sometimes have that last decades, "til death do they part". That's what I've noticed. It has nothing to do with what people prefer, which is what "strokes" would imply. It's human nature to seek love.

If you're a TS and you have one, god bless you, sister. But if you're one of these grandiose guys who thinks he has some special love to share, what the hell are you doing on a porn forum?

[bluesoul]

Quit trying to drum up drama, dude.

if i kiss her ass, and you do the same, which one of us both do you think she'd choose?

[lifeisfiction]

What "strokes"? I'm talking about human nature and what I've seen. The most beautiful transsexuals are often never in a good LTR; not like the ones married GGs sometimes have that last decades, "til death do they part". That's what I've noticed. It has nothing to do with what people prefer, which is what "strokes" would imply. It's human nature to seek love.

If you're a TS and you have one, god bless you, sister. But if you're one of these grandiose guys who thinks he has some special love to share, what the hell are you doing on a porn forum?

I am on porn forum because I like porn. Whenever someone says it can't happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You stated kids as being a main reason why a man wants to stay with a gg. I have friend whose wife was barren. He knew that before they got married and he is happily married with a beautiful child that they both adopted.

When you have a series of bad relationships, you have to evaluate the type of guy your dating. Are all men liars. Nope are the majority of them, nope. Would you even think of dating those men, probably not. Why, looks, personality and just plain certain things you value in a man.

A female friend of mine couldn't figure out she kept having bad relationships. She kept dating the same kind of guy hoping that when they wanted a relationship they would make the effort. Of course it ended the same way, really poorly. If you see things negatively, it will impact the way you approach things.

I don't know you and you don't know me. Is it possible to find a good long relationship, yes. Its it easy, no. Can it happen to you Nicole, only when you think it can until then you have convinced yourself it will never happen. There men who see woman as sex objects. Rule of life, what can't be done today will be even more possible tomorrow.

[GrimFusion]

if i kiss her ass, and you do the same, which one of us both do you think she'd choose?

That's a waste of time. If you aren't illiterate or lazy, jessicamoore already said she wouldn't consider any of the dude's around a place like this. I'm not trying to change her mind. You are, so I don't know where you're getting all this ass-kissery from.

[bluesoul]

That's a waste of time. If you aren't illiterate or lazy, jessicamoore already said she wouldn't consider any of the dude's around a place like this. I'm not trying to change her mind. You are, so I don't know where you're getting all this ass-kissery from.

yeah but unlike her, i haven't posted my picture here. have you? we still have our shots- just don't mention you even know this place exists and deny you've even given a second thought to dating transsexuals.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/airmaxkid/6rt08o.gif

[GrimFusion]

yeah but unlike her, i haven't posted my picture here. have you? we still have our shots- just don't mention you even know this place exists and deny you've even given a second thought to dating transsexuals.


I'm going to need a few shots before I get into any kind of real discussion with you because I already know it's not going anywhere. That douche in my avatar is me, and yeah... I have posted my pic around here. I'm not playing like I wouldn't be interested. I'm just not in the business of wasting my own time hitting on chicks who come right out and say there's no chance.

[buttslinger]

Curl up with a little Franz Kafka and don't worry about it.

[red-cyberman]

Hi Jessica I agree with most of what you said. The thing is it's not about tgirls only. It's a main thing that people may or may not find true love. I know it's more difficult for tgirls.
I've never dated a tgirl so I wouldn't probably understand and I know it's more complicated than a man with GG relationship.
You seem like a nice person and I hope you may one day find your true love your other half.

[Nicole Dupre]

I am on porn forum because I like porn. Whenever someone says it can't happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You stated kids as being a main reason why a man wants to stay with a gg. I have friend whose wife was barren. He knew that before they got married and he is happily married with a beautiful child that they both adopted.

When you have a series of bad relationships, you have to evaluate the type of guy your dating. Are all men liars. Nope are the majority of them, nope. Would you even think of dating those men, probably not. Why, looks, personality and just plain certain things you value in a man.

A female friend of mine couldn't figure out she kept having bad relationships. She kept dating the same kind of guy hoping that when they wanted a relationship they would make the effort. Of course it ended the same way, really poorly. If you see things negatively, it will impact the way you approach things.

I don't know you and you don't know me. Is it possible to find a good long relationship, yes. Its it easy, no. Can it happen to you Nicole, only when you think it can until then you have convinced yourself it will never happen. There men who see woman as sex objects. Rule of life, what can't be done today will be even more possible tomorrow.
Why are you assuming I'm "seeing things negatively"? lol I was speaking in general terms. I didn't say all men are liars or that I had a string of bad relationships. lol I said the man I loved the most, and who evidently still loves me, is not the smartest guy for me to be with. He never cheated. He was always there for me. He'd kill for me. We're just not right for one another. We didn't split because I can't give him a child. He doesn't even want a child. lol

And yes. Maybe your friend adopted and he's happy. Ok. Good for him. What I was trying to point out was that not only do men want kids but also that children often keep a relationship going and get it through the rockier times. The bond that people share as biological parents is often what it takes to give the relationship that extra something.

And sorry but your being on a porn forum raises the question of whether or not you currently have a solid LTR with a transwoman. Or maybe you've never had one. It doesn't matter. All I'm telling you is that for the most part transsexuals do not find men who are good for them and who are willing to make a long term commitment to a TS woman and grow old with them. Being on a TS porn forum isn't going to give you any particularly insightful perspective on the situation.

I'd venture to say that, not only have I been involved in more relationships with men than you've had with transsexual women but I've seen more transsexuals try to find healthy LTRs with guys that ultimately didn't work. That's what I've observed after seeing so many relationships for transsexuals not last. So you don't have to sell me on why you any other guy is so different. Maybe you are. I don't know or care. But I doubt it if you're here and not enjoying life with your girl. You just sound like some guy who wants to prove he's not like every other guy. That's fine.

Tell me how many TS women you've dated and how long was the longest relationship you've had with one.

[lifeisfiction]

Never said I was an expert. My main point is that any relationship takes a lot of work to make it work. Choosing a person who is willing to make relationship work is choosing someone beyond intial attraction. I think Megan Fox is hot, but doesn't mean we would be great because I think she is hot. Thats all. I just find the topic of find good men on this board brings up a lot of complaints. I do hope that everyone looking for one will be able to find one.

(Kids don't always help bring a couple closer, they can also destroy a marriage)

[theoryman]

Keep looking. Maybe change the where you look. Finding the right one is all about luck.

There are some of us out here who want a TS as a wife or SO or girlfriend and are willing to do what it takes to find her... I did.

But, I know it took me years to admit to myself what I wanted and to decide I did not give a damn what anyone else thought about it... Lots of guys think that they have made that decision, but when the time comes they suddenly can't deal.

[stefslut70]

hi jessica,

its sad to hear you have never found love. you are so sweet, i am here to hold you, hug you and stay with you

[Richctdude]

yes you can!!

[yosi]

i dont trust any guy

im sure there are honest men out here but i havent found him yet

im a verse tgirl so i have alot to offer



you can't find true love if you don't trust anyone , as simple as that.

will you be willing to start relations with someone who declares : I don't trust any transexual?

[yosi]

I'm talking about human nature and what I've seen. The most beautiful transsexuals are often never in a good LTR


is it possible that it happens because of the "I don't want to join a club that's willing to accept members like me" syndrom?

[noble1337]

some people never find the right person.
if a person thinks they never find love because of their gender, then they are wrong.
but it is correct to think that its much more difficult for transgender people

[Nicole Dupre]

is it possible that it happens because of the "I don't want to join a club that's willing to accept members like me" syndrom?
It's not because the transsexuals don't have a desire to be in a good LTR or because they don't date. I was talking about transsexuals who aren't even sex workers btw; even they often have major difficulties finding solid LTRs from what I've seen.

Keep something in mind, yosi. Any girl can date. Any girl can find a BF if she'll lower her expectations and give a horny man sex on a regular basis. Men don't have that option; not like women do. And guys who want to date sex workers are even easier to find and waste your time with.

I'm not sure what "club" you mean. I no longer escort and I will no longer do porn. But it's true. When I was a sex worker, I wouldn't seek a guy who would want an escort or adult entertainer as a GF. I only date down-to-earth guys. I won't deal with guys who are halfway living in a porn fantasy world and who think they hit the jackpot because I'd be with them.

You know who makes me laugh? The guys who live far away but somehow think they have any potential to start dating me. If you can't be in my life on a daily basis, what the hell kind of BF do you think you'd make? And why would I trust a guy I couldn't see every day to be faithful? lol

When I date a guy, it's closeness I seek. I want to fuck EVERY DAY. I want to be in his company EVERY DAY. I want to share a meal and a good conversation in-person EVERY DAY. The guys who want to drive 5 hours away to buy me dinner one night are just a bit too sad to be taken seriously. And then they want to know why we want guys with money? lol If you want me and you don't live close, you'd better have money for traveling EVERY DAY or be able to support me and make it so I can be with you. But men are day dreamers about these things. They think being a nice guy is enough, but it's not. Being a nice guy is simply being in the ball park. It doesn't mean you get to play or you win the trophy. lol

[KittyPride]

every day??? I would loose my mind lol
You sound a little controlling and obsessive Nicole lol

[bat1]

interesting trend..

[ts-sasha]

In my daily life when im not shopping etc guys always thinking im a porn star or some cheap slut that would suck thme off in back of a empty building or such no respect, its always something sexual out a guys mouth whatever happened to "hi my name is ----- would you like to go out and get to know each other"

I don't mean to be rude, but I just seen your genitals on the first post I looked at. Men tend to (not always) treat women 1) depending on how she behaves and 2) in a way they can get away with. For example, if I act/sounds like a slut, then I'm going to be a slut. If I act/seem/am "easy" with him, then I must be "easy" in general.
Men generalise how you act with them, and assume you act like that with every other guy. Clearly that isn't the case though.

Now personally, I have been in love, in fact I still love him and I always will. It just didn't work out, non-trans related.
I tend to get a LOT of guys interested, and generally my rule of thumb is if he doesn't want to be in public with me then he isn't going to be in bed with me.
I don't think it helps to "look" for love, true everlasting love should take you by surprise!

Edit: I don't think its impossible for a tgirl to find love, she can be pre/post, straight/bi/lesbian, versatile/top/bottom. I don't think that matters really. As long as the tgirl has successfully transitioned I'm not sure what other problems there would be other than the general issues all girls face with finding someone compatible.
(and by successfully transitioned I don't mean start treatment/surgery, I mean accept who they are and their body).

[be2378]

I think true love do exist, but one don't find it easy.

[danthepoetman]

Love is a meeting of two persons at a very deep level. It has to have communication first, almost a sense of communion, that feeling that you can open up and say anything to the other; and it also has to have desire, lust. It’s very difficult, I think, to find both at the same time. And when you have it, you have to hang on, you have to feed that communication, to never ever let it die, which is not either easy. It doesn’t have anything to do with transsexuality, as far as I’m concerned. Sure, social pressure are sometimes irresistible. But you generally know when love knocks at the door. And I assume that, unless you’re a bit masochistic, you try your best not to let it pass by…
:2cent

[GrimFusion]

True love exists for anybody willing to look while accepting a modicum of imperfection.
That doesn't mean it's easy to find. Depends on what you're looking for, I guess. I can only imagine GG's likely make for better relationship material than most men; but only because to most men, transsexuals are little more than a fetish or fantasy. That doesn't mean good guys don't exist. They're just really tough to sort out from all the refuse.

[Prospero]

Why not... though considering the social hurdles they have to clear it must be harder than for many.

I'll bet there are thousands of transgendered women who have found true love. Maybe only a handful who post here but most out there in the wider world.

[RallyCola]

Love is...out there for everyone so long as you are open to it and can get passed most of the superficial interactions you have with new people.

I wonder how much of the issue is a function of the type of men you meet. If you interact largely with men who are interested in transwomen, that might in fact be the main issue.

[nycguy1]

tgirl girl guy gay guy etc. means nothing.

every person either finds love or gets a divorce or comes in somewhere between. it has nothing to do with the physical body parts on a body.

so yes, a tgirl can find love, why not. it just depends on so many factors. it will never be perfect anyway and i think most tgirls who are loved are not loved any less than a guy would love a genetic girl.

[Lovecox]

I think the problem a lot of people run into is that they have a very narrow, idealized and sometimes simplistic expectation of what love is supposed to be.
When their expectation is not met they say it is not love.
I have found love more than once. It has had its share of dishonesty, pettiness, pain, resentment, disppointment, jealousy, and ill will.
But it also redeems itself through forgiveness and compassion.
Love can be messy, confusing, painful and imperfect.
It is what it is.
It is what you make it to be.
Love is different in every case.
Don't compare it to the loves you see protrayed in literature and film.
Define it for yourself.
Love is not a feeling - love is how we act toward one another. The feeling comes as a reward.:kiss:

[nysprod]

Can anyone?

[buttslinger]

Well shit, OF COURSE true love exists! What's wrong with you guys??!!

[RallyCola]

Well shit, OF COURSE true love exists! What's wrong with you guys??!!

1) fuck new jersey
2) is that pic from an OCC car show?
3) loving a car is no different than loving a woman. treat her right and she'll purr all night.

[tomvan20000]

As a guy, I'd be open to it, but after having spent some time on a few transgender dating sites, it doesnt look good. Alot of the girls want a "straight" guy who for some reason makes an exception for her; they WILL NOT however consider a guy who knew of her status previously as he is just a cock hungry( even if hes a top) faggot

[phillyguy21]

Tgirls certainly have the same sickness as GGs in the fact that they both generally have unrealistic and illogical expectations. Both GGs and TGs build this imaginary perfect guy in their heads and feel as though they are entitled to that perfection when a) that guy doesn't exist, and b) if he did, he wouldn't want your imperfect ass.

The added layer with TGs is this bitterness against society which is projected onto the guys who pursue them. We so-called tranny chasers are the only group of people over whom they have the ability to exercise power. In addition, as posters before me have said, a lot of TGs want to bag a guy who only likes pussy. If he only likes pussy, he would be with a GG right now instead of you.

Another sickness that TSs and GGs share with each other is messing with the wrong guys. This is almost always due to superficiality. I don't want to hear this "I didn't know he was a jerk until he showed his true colors" bullshit. If a guy conducts himself like a player, it's pretty fucking obvious, but that type of guy appeals to your superficial sensibilities. That is the reason why you constantly end up in the same situation.

Don't think I am not speaking from experience. I currently have a GG girlfriend of over a year. I have dealt with & talked to various (non-working) TS girls in my city.

[Lovecox]

Can anyone?

Well put.

[danthepoetman]

The problem is most often us guys...

[Willie Escalade]

As a guy, I'd be open to it, but after having spent some time on a few transgender dating sites, it doesnt look good. Alot of the girls want a "straight" guy who for some reason makes an exception for her; they WILL NOT however consider a guy who knew of her status previously as he is just a cock hungry( even if hes a top) faggot
This. I remember Kelly was jumped on for making this exact observation.


Tgirls certainly have the same sickness as GGs in the fact that they both generally have unrealistic and illogical expectations. Both GGs and TGs build this imaginary perfect guy in their heads and feel as though they are entitled to that perfection when a) that guy doesn't exist, and b) if he did, he wouldn't want your imperfect ass.

The added layer with TGs is this bitterness against society which is projected onto the guys who pursue them. We so-called tranny chasers are the only group of people over whom they have the ability to exercise power. In addition, as posters before me have said, a lot of TGs want to bag a guy who only likes pussy. If he only likes pussy, he would be with a GG right now instead of you.

Another sickness that TSs and GGs share with each other is messing with the wrong guys. This is almost always due to superficiality. I don't want to hear this "I didn't know he was a jerk until he showed his true colors" bullshit. If a guy conducts himself like a player, it's pretty fucking obvious, but that type of guy appeals to your superficial sensibilities. That is the reason why you constantly end up in the same situation.
This too. If you keep going for the wrong guy...

Since I'm so absorbed into the community (and know lots of the girls), I'm pretty sure many of them are calling me a tranny-chaser behind my back. Eh, I'm past that point now.

I was in a "relationship" with a girl (she'd say we weren't); she backed out of it because her ex (who dumped her for being a TS in the first place) wanted to get back with her. It didn't work out; I don't know WHO she's with now (if anybody) because I decided to keep her out of my life.

There are good guys out there; the ladies have to just weed out the tossers. Same with the fellas; there are some good ladies out there as well.

[NoahNomad]

I have been in a relationship with a t-girl for two years. We've had a great relationship. She is in porn, and we haven't had any issues at all with her being a performer. I trust her, I let her do her thing, and we enjoy our relationship.

The problem with most t-girls is that they say they want certain qualities in a man but they are really just fooling themselves.

I do believe there are plenty of attractive, kind, straight or masculine bi-sexual men who can love a t-girl for who she is without fetishizing her transsexuality.

I am a straight guy, my girlfriend is a straight t-girl. There's never been any complications or confusion about it because of our level of honesty and communication.

There is a catch 22: be upfront when you meet a guy and he may be a chaser or just gay. If you wait to talk about being trans, you may have just wasted a lot of time getting to know someone who wouldn't be interested had he known.

At the end of the day, love is possible for all kinds of people...but definitely for a beautiful girl who knows what she wants. A man has to genuinely want to be in a relationship, not just be anxious to have sex with you. That part does get old if it's all you've got going on.

Many t-girls AND GG's end up dating guys that really just want to have an all-access pass to that ass. You have to learn to spot the difference by how a man treats you, what his level of comfort is with you in public and not just in private, also how he integrates you into his life.

[NoahNomad]

Tgirls certainly have the same sickness as GGs in the fact that they both generally have unrealistic and illogical expectations. Both GGs and TGs build this imaginary perfect guy in their heads and feel as though they are entitled to that perfection when a) that guy doesn't exist, and b) if he did, he wouldn't want your imperfect ass.

The added layer with TGs is this bitterness against society which is projected onto the guys who pursue them. We so-called tranny chasers are the only group of people over whom they have the ability to exercise power. In addition, as posters before me have said, a lot of TGs want to bag a guy who only likes pussy. If he only likes pussy, he would be with a GG right now instead of you.

Another sickness that TSs and GGs share with each other is messing with the wrong guys. This is almost always due to superficiality. I don't want to hear this "I didn't know he was a jerk until he showed his true colors" bullshit. If a guy conducts himself like a player, it's pretty fucking obvious, but that type of guy appeals to your superficial sensibilities. That is the reason why you constantly end up in the same situation.

Don't think I am not speaking from experience. I currently have a GG girlfriend of over a year. I have dealt with & talked to various (non-working) TS girls in my city.
The assumption that every guy who dates a pre-op transwoman has to be interested in dick...even if it's just a "tiny bit" and not exclusively "pussy", is wrong.

As a man who is only interested in women, and had never thought about dating a transwoman before meeting my girlfriend...I speak from experience when I say that when you make up in your mind that you want to be with a girl who happens to be trans, you know that everything else will work itself out. This is on a different playing field than just hooking up with a t-girl. When you put the person* first, her not having pussy is really not as scary or intimidating. It's the same as choosing to date a brunette when you've only dated blondes, or meeting a bbw that you adore when you prefer athletic women. It's different, but you recognize it is completely superficial and not necessary to fixate on if you are comfortable with you. The problem solves itself when you decide you want to actually have a real relationship.

[Willie Escalade]

The assumption that every guy who dates a pre-op transwoman has to be interested in dick...even if it's just a "tiny bit" and not exclusively "pussy", is wrong.

As a man who is only interested in women, and had never thought about dating a transwoman before meeting my girlfriend...I speak from experience when I say that when you make up in your mind that you want to be with a girl who happens to be trans, you know that everything else will work itself out. This is on a different playing field than just hooking up with a t-girl. When you put the person* first, her not having pussy is really not as scary or intimidating. It's the same as choosing to date a brunette when you've only dated blondes, or meeting a bbw that you adore when you prefer athletic women. It's different, but you recognize it is completely superficial and not necessary to fixate on if you are comfortable with you. The problem solves itself when you decide you want to actually have a real relationship.
Exactly. Many guys love the person, not just the package.

[nitron]

Hi all, Can t girls find true love?That's the question. So, what is true love?What do you mean when you say Love. Or for that matter True Love. The reason I ask, is because I think the word has different meaning to each gender. I'm pretty sure this also applies to our community as well as the straight. I think as has been stated earlier , the relationships fall apart just for the same reason's as they do for hetero couples. For example, I think the lack of children contributes to unstable relationships, who knows for sure.

[Rusty Eldora]

I think a guy, a girl, or a TS need to be involved in an area and dress for what is themselves. Trying to find a LTR at a bar has low odds unless that is the scene that is who you are. If you look like a player or slutty at the mall, people will assume that. True love also requires being true friends. It requires giving. Endlessly not trusting before the prospective partner has shown he can't be trusted. Also, do you require of the two of you to be monogamous or can there be some poly.

In a strange twist I think that escorting or seeing escorts can improve the chance of finding the right person, it at least provides test drives with a diverse group where you can find yourself and what is really wanted in a mate for you.

A successful relationship usually requires both to be comfortable with themselves, sex shouldn't be clouded with the "they just want to be fucked" attitude. If that attitude exists, something is wrong.

[bluesoul]

Exactly. Many guys love the person, not just the package.

no offense, but i find this very difficult to believe. i don't think it's impossible, i just believe the majority know beforehand (and specifically seek out) girls with prior knowledge of their package.

the op of this thread stated earlier that they wouldn't be looking for love on a forum called hung angels (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=1130712&postcount=16). i'm sure that's because someone coming to hung angels knows beforehand that this forum caters to the discussion (primarily) of transsexual women (and even if someone didn't know that, it states it's a guide to such discussions)

[mrtrebus]

with me they can! I started out just liking tgirl porn. Now I want to get to know a tgirl better!

[JenniferParisHusband]

Exactly. Many guys love the person, not just the package.

I agree. I've been in one long term relationship with a transgender lady. I didn't really care as much about the package, because it didn't affect the day to day stuff. When you're living with someone 24-7, enjoying talking with them, going out and doing things with them, and just generally enjoying the company of the person you are spending so much time with is the main thing. The breakup was mostly because she got it into her head that eventually I'd leave her for a GG. So she broke it off with me. But I was in it for the long haul, and even ready to make a committment.

I'm a top only, the dick was aesthetic, but I didn't care that it was there or not. I'd have been into my ex if she had been post-op or a GG.

I tried with a second lady, but the thing that ended my first relationship was kind of the block to getting the second one going. It was mostly that she couldn't get her head out of the way of it. The second one was only concerned that i'd be using her for sex, even though we'd already fucked and it was horrible. She was still amazing enough as a person and as someone I wanted to know and spend time with, that to this day, I'd still like a go at a long term relationship with her.

So it's possible, if you ask me.

[ed_jaxon]

In this community,(HA that is--which covers escorts, porn stars, showgirls and admirers as well as lurkers here both male and tg) it is damn near impossible to have a relationship.

We all have baggage but it seems many of us have more than the average person. Also expectations are unreasonable on both sides.

I like hanging out with friends (my boys and tg's) at various parties having a drink and laughing and joking. Having a girl from this arena just chilling and having a pizza while watching a movie or sleeping over rarely happens.

We have this site and lifestyle in common but there is a whole lot of other things that neither side will understand.

Now if there are any cute babes who love sex, drinking, gambling, Vegas, Burning Man, Sinatra, House music are educated and intelligent, live in Chicago, appreciate art, sports and are cool in their own skin AND FIND ME ATTRACTIVE and can deal with my shit...I am open.

[be2378]

I think anyone can find true love, its even better if the two people find the true love with each other.

[HarajukuDollxoxo]

I think we can but it's rare. Like super rare.

[Yeah]

In my experiences and from what i've observed, in most cases its the woman who makes the choice on what type of guy she dates. Rarely do men have a choice unless your Brad Pitt or something. Again, this has been my experience and what i observed. And a lot of times, not all, but a good number of women make poor choices. Just look at all the divorced and single women out there with kids on dating sites saying they don't want drama and chaos and want a good guy. But i pity the good guy who meet some of these women, because she will turn his normal good life into a living hell. Again i did say i pitysome of the guys because some of the women truely do want a good guy after dating a bad one. Its just that some women have drama and chaos in their life for so long being with bad guys, that when the date a good guy they crave drama so they create it to get their fix.