It's called discipline

[evilernie]

I know that many here look down upon guys that refuse to take the plunge and just go out with a tgirl. I just had a revelation that we don't always get what we want and sometimes we deliberately and successfully turn down the temptation. It's ok.

People consider this cowardice, but I'm considering this as discipline.

;)

[KittyPride]

No its cowardice lol
Its the same as only getting into a fight when you are with 10 against one...
That is not discipline...thats acting like a pussy...

[allurstouse]

No it's repression and emasculation. When you deny a desire not harmful toothers because of the social ramifications it is a proclamation you have testicles but society has you by the balls. A deciosn to actively remain sexually repressed isnt disipline it's an axct of fear that will make a therapist rich when the compatmentilizationof yourmlife starts breaking down

[mac.B]

No it's repression and emasculation. When you deny a desire not harmful toothers because of the social ramifications it is a proclamation you have testicles but society has you by the balls. A deciosn to actively remain sexually repressed isnt disipline it's an axct of fear that will make a therapist rich when the compatmentilizationof yourmlife starts breaking down

This sounds like good ol' fashioned satanism. Needless to say I disagree seeing as how us guys who actively indulge in sex/relationships wih trannies are always agonizing in some way about our attraction. A lot of time, money and overall attention is paid to this. Too much I would say. This thing feels like an addiction and is a burden in many other ways. All of the hiding, the sexual frustration due to either lack of funds or lack of tgirls on the dating scene, all the money spent on porn or ecorts or all the time spent on tranny forums or in gay clubs hoping one might show up whos to youre liking. Not to mention any spiritual or religious guilt. Hes doing himself a big favor by avoiding even some of these things. I tried to get out of the game so many timed only to come right back. I do like trannies but sometimes this can be too much...

[amberskyi]

This sounds like good ol' fashioned satanism. Needless to say I disagree seeing as how us guys who actively indulge in sex/relationships wih trannies are always agonizing in some way about our attraction. A lot of time, money and overall attention is paid to this. Too much I would say. This thing feels like an addiction and is a burden in many other ways. All of the hiding, the sexual frustration due to either lack of funds or lack of tgirls on the dating scene, all the money spent on porn or ecorts or all the time spent on tranny forums or in gay clubs hoping one might show up whos to youre liking. Not to mention any spiritual or religious guilt. Hes doing himself a big favor by avoiding even some of these things. I tried to get out of the game so many timed only to come right back. I do like trannies but sometimes this can be too much...

maybe you should think about if its something your doing or the way your approaching it.
there are several guys on this forum in happy,loving relationships with tgirls and there are several girls in this forum in relationships of their own.
there are bad apples and heart breaks with all genders.i could easily sit here, be jaded and say that men arent shit because of the experiences ive had.instead i chose to look at myself and ask what is it about me that is attracting all these horrible experiences.
also no relationship is perfect.they all require work to make them last.if your not willing to put in the effort than its best to just keep interactions with tgirls (or any gender) to just sexual.

[mac.B]

Here you go wit all that bitter nonsense. Who said anything about broken hearts and things? Not tryin to be rude but maybe you should re-read my post and respond to what I actually wrote....

But look, I enjoy my sexuality but it does come with a steep price...

[MdR Dave]

That's fine for you, Mac, and there are probably as many "right" answers as there are people.

But there is one important consideration that nobody has addressed thus far:

How can we get Amber to post a full size pic of her avatar?

Mercy, girl!

[amberskyi]

Here you go wit all that bitter nonsense. Who said anything about broken hearts and things? Not tryin to be rude but maybe you should re-read my post and respond to what I actually wrote....

But look, I enjoy my sexuality but it does come with a steep price...

whos bitter? i was saying just the opposite.
correct me if im wrong but was your post all about the drama,stress and disappointment of dating ts woman?

[amberskyi]

That's fine for you, Mac, and there are probably as many "right" answers as there are people.

But there is one important consideration that nobody has addressed thus far:

How can we get Amber to post a full size pic of her avatar?

Mercy, girl!

just for you hun....

[KittyPride]

This sounds like good ol' fashioned satanism. Needless to say I disagree seeing as how us guys who actively indulge in sex/relationships wih trannies are always agonizing in some way about our attraction. A lot of time, money and overall attention is paid to this. Too much I would say. This thing feels like an addiction and is a burden in many other ways. All of the hiding, the sexual frustration due to either lack of funds or lack of tgirls on the dating scene, all the money spent on porn or ecorts or all the time spent on tranny forums or in gay clubs hoping one might show up whos to youre liking. Not to mention any spiritual or religious guilt. Hes doing himself a big favor by avoiding even some of these things. I tried to get out of the game so many timed only to come right back. I do like trannies but sometimes this can be too much...

You are crazy...
You are in no way ready to date a tgirl...
Haha

And you guys even believe it when you say us girls have such issues...not true
We work consciously on our problems and find solutions...
You are just lazy ...

[phillyguy21]

maybe you should think about if its something your doing or the way your approaching it.
there are several guys on this forum in happy,loving relationships with tgirls and there are several girls in this forum in relationships of their own.
there are bad apples and heart breaks with all genders.i could easily sit here, be jaded and say that men arent shit because of the experiences ive had.instead i chose to look at myself and ask what is it about me that is attracting all these horrible experiences.
also no relationship is perfect.they all require work to make them last.if your not willing to put in the effort than its best to just keep interactions with tgirls (or any gender) to just sexual.

^ Quoted for Truth

[KittyPride]

Religious guilt oh my god...
If it isnt that its s sexual identity crisis
Insecurities about your masculinity etc
Most of you guys have serious issues with life...
The point of life is that you live it and not let anyone else live it for you...

[MdR Dave]

just for you hun....

See above- Amber knows how to Internet right!

Gorgeous.

[mac.B]

You are crazy...
You are in no way ready to date a tgirl...
Haha

And you guys even believe it when you say us girls have such issues...not true
We work consciously on our problems and find solutions...
You are just lazy ...

I am lazy. Yes...

[mac.B]

Religious guilt oh my god...
If it isnt that its s sexual identity crisis
Insecurities about your masculinity etc
Most of you guys have serious issues with life...
The point of life is that you live it and not let anyone else live it for you...


My masculinity is in tact but this tgirl thing really takes a lot

[GrimFusion]

This sounds like good ol' fashioned satanism. Needless to say I disagree seeing as how us guys who actively indulge in sex/relationships wih trannies are always agonizing in some way about our attraction. A lot of time, money and overall attention is paid to this. Too much I would say. This thing feels like an addiction and is a burden in many other ways. All of the hiding, the sexual frustration due to either lack of funds or lack of tgirls on the dating scene, all the money spent on porn or ecorts or all the time spent on tranny forums or in gay clubs hoping one might show up whos to youre liking. Not to mention any spiritual or religious guilt. Hes doing himself a big favor by avoiding even some of these things. I tried to get out of the game so many timed only to come right back. I do like trannies but sometimes this can be too much...

If you 'agonize' about your attraction to tgirls, there's something seriously wrong with you, dude. If you have to hide girls from your friends and family and you're spending cash you should be appropriating to other stuff, your conscience should step in and stop you. If that's not how things play out in your mind, you should seek therapy. I'm not trying to insult you. It's just kinda creepy that you admit that you can't control yourself, but you think that's somehow normal.

[mac.B]

If you 'agonize' about your attraction to tgirls, there's something seriously wrong with you, dude. If you have to hide girls from your friends and family and you're spending cash you should be appropriating to other stuff, your conscience should step in and stop you. If that's not how things play out in your mind, you should seek therapy. I'm not trying to insult you. It's just kinda creepy that you admit that you can't control yourself, but you think that's somehow normal.

Who said anything about normal? And where did I imply that I neglect to feed myself b/c i spent my grocery money on TS porn?

[KittyPride]

My masculinity is in tact but this tgirl thing really takes a lot

Perhaps you should date a Tgirl... giving in to desires often reduces the obsession...
And we are out there. I am no escort, dont do porn... but I do have a bf and in a normal relationship. If you really want to spend time with a Tgirl outside of porn... treat her like a woman and make an effort to date her, be good to her...
We are human too you know ;)

[GrimFusion]

I know that many here look down upon guys that refuse to take the plunge and just go out with a tgirl. I just had a revelation that we don't always get what we want and sometimes we deliberately and successfully turn down the temptation. It's ok.

People consider this cowardice, but I'm considering this as discipline.

;)

It's not discipline. Discipline is when you use punishment to correct disobedience. What you're practicing is avoidance. That's chill if you have personal concerns you don't want to get into around here. I've been in a relationship for the last four years, so that's MY excuse. It's not cowardice unless you don't have a reason to avoid going out with a transsexual.

[Dino Velvet]

I haven't been out on many real dates with T-Girls but my problem is I'm too damn overprotective of them. My ignorance makes me worry some idiot will disrespect my girl and I do something that warrants me serious time in lock-up.

[KittyPride]

I haven't been out on many real dates with T-Girls but my problem is I'm too damn overprotective of them. My ignorance makes me worry some idiot will disrespect my girl and I do something that warrants me serious time in lock-up.

We are strong girls Dino... but thanks for caring.
I would think you will make a great boyfriend for a Tgirl... its a shame really that you are single.

[Dino Velvet]

We are strong girls Dino... but thanks for caring.
I would think you will make a great boyfriend for a Tgirl... its a shame really that you are single.

They need to marry me so I get conjugals. I'm more the intense and passionate side of the human race. At least I'm not boring.

[KittyPride]

They need to marry me so I get conjugals. I'm more the intense and passionate side of the human race. At least I'm not boring.

LOL! Well we can write you a letter?

[Dino Velvet]

LOL! Well we can write you a letter?

Make it a dirty one please.

[GrimFusion]

Who said anything about normal? And where did I imply that I neglect to feed myself b/c i spent my grocery money on TS porn?

You just did. I didn't say a damn thing about groceries. Somebody has a guilty conscience.

[allurstouse]

This sounds like good ol' fashioned satanism. Needless to say I disagree seeing as how us guys who actively indulge in sex/relationships wih trannies are always agonizing in some way about our attraction. A lot of time, money and overall attention is paid to this. Too much I would say. This thing feels like an addiction and is a burden in many other ways. All of the hiding, the sexual frustration due to either lack of funds or lack of tgirls on the dating scene, all the money spent on porn or ecorts or all the time spent on tranny forums or in gay clubs hoping one might show up whos to youre liking. Not to mention any spiritual or religious guilt. Hes doing himself a big favor by avoiding even some of these things. I tried to get out of the game so many timed only to come right back. I do like trannies but sometimes this can be too much...

Doesn't Satan have to be involved for there to be Satanism? hell, I think the God of Israel and Satan are both as real as Zuez, Jupiter, baal or Woden! I can't be a satanist if I think it's a fairy tale and if beleif inGod and satan causes you pain perhaps it's time to look fore a denomination whose teachings dont induce inner conflict, shame and self doubt.

I'd agree I'm a hedonist but what's so bad about seeking pleasure? I'lll take my pleasure and complete lack of angst over the trans date i almost had sat, the date with an africanamerican goddess I will have thur or fri depending which will include hot sex and most likely ropes strap on and melted candles and some pink ass cheeks and sore nipples, ice cubes and a bf and gag. ShouldI feel shameful for likeing kinky sex and vanillal sex? is it harming anyone? If it isnt what purpose does shame serve? does it change the desire or just cause pain and what is it thatis shameful about sex? So much catholic guilt was in your post. if you can let gi of it you'll be far happier.


As ti the masculinity thing. No one who doesnt know me would ever think i wass anything but alpha male. i am outspoken, I am the one who takes control, I am the one= who tells the boss he is wrong and I have never walked away froma fight. I have the balls ot not care about the judgement of those that dont matter. I am niot a coward filed with anst because I dontwantto admit a truth abut myself. I say who cares to the world and not what woudl they think. IMO masculinity has far more to do with how you face life and carry yourself than it does the 45 minutes a week you see anther dick. Your emasulation issues are the shame not the dick

I had a public frontal and rear nudity picture on adultspace. I kept getting compliments and hit on by straight guys. I finally put it in private it was just disturbing to me so many men were so scared they lived lies. I really felt bad for the gf andwives though. What a sad sad way to be. What harm is there in dating a transgender woman? Oh and I actively have slept with transgendered and unlike some straight bottom boys here topped as well and I dont do gay clubs> i an see where sayingyou are straight and suckingdick andgttingtopped and suckingdick and going rto gay bars might cuse some agnst, maybe a therapist could help u figuire out what the conflict is

I am one of the few men here who admit sleeping no jsut having sex with men but frankly after my adultspace experience I think admit is the keyword there. That isnt blanket to all just the closet cases cant get honest with themselves let alone the world.

i would ask what is it about mtf tg that makes it shameful to sleep with them? What exactly does that say about them? I am no satanist but,you could use a little less oild time sex is dirty religon and not everyone is torn up as you described. My issue isnt that they are transitioning I met as woman escortiung and i could tell it dragged on he. I didnt feel good after I really dont want to help anyone trash themselves. If I was sure someone was ok with their lifestyle I wouldnt hesitate and it would be guilt free. maybe

[allurstouse]

I haven't been out on many real dates with T-Girls but my problem is I'm too damn overprotective of them. My ignorance makes me worry some idiot will disrespect my girl and I do something that warrants me serious time in lock-up.

That is masulointiy no shame a need toprotect and bakks ti notewven think what it thought of you. Shame over sex is for little boys

[Dino Velvet]

That is masulointiy no shame a need toprotect and bakks ti notewven think what it thought of you. Shame over sex is for little boys

I looked at that for 5 minutes...

[GrimFusion]

Once my eyes got to "notewven", I just stopped processing.
I don't even try anymore. I just figure that if people can't proofread before pressing submit, the message must not be all that important.

:shrug

[allurstouse]

yeah my typing skills have been augmented by a green machine juice spill i wont post past this one till i replace keyboard