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SEXY TS JESS
03-29-2012, 05:07 PM
http://www.ontopmag.com/images/ArticleImages/jazz_transgender.jpg

Thoughts and Opinions?? after you have Watched ALL 3 parts... lol

http://jezebel.com/5862815/meet-jazz-an-impressive-11+year-old-transgender-girl

PART 1
I Am Jazz: A Family In Transition - Part 1 of 3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyoh3vj4UTA)

PART 2
I Am Jazz: A Family In Transition - Part 2 of 3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R70BRbrvsrs)

PART 3
I Am Jazz: A Family In Transition - Part 3 of 3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ12sm6N25k)

I think the message from this child is GREAT to all the YOUNG children that battles with Gender Dysphoria. Being RAISED in a loving household. I see BIG accomplishments from this wonderful WOMAN in her future. Im GLAD she has a chance to touch lives. WITH out being TOUCHED literally lol. :joke:

brickcitybrother
03-29-2012, 05:22 PM
Amazing ...

DarylWashington
03-29-2012, 05:33 PM
Guys put your cocks away, pedophiles!

Ryz
03-29-2012, 06:25 PM
Guys put your cocks away, pedophiles!

Was honestly anyone thing that? Pervert

buttslinger
03-29-2012, 07:35 PM
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TsGiaX
03-29-2012, 08:18 PM
Loved it.

Chiba5
03-29-2012, 09:00 PM
If I have my own kids and one of them desires to be a woman I'd help pay for the transformation if she didn't have enough money

Nikka
03-29-2012, 09:08 PM
wrong... at 11 y.o. u r not sure yet

SEXY TS JESS
03-29-2012, 10:31 PM
I have been living as a transwoman since age 14.. So i can believe in my opinion that she wants to be a woman !!!

celttank
03-29-2012, 11:14 PM
wrong... at 11 y.o. u r not sure yet
Bitch stfu.
She was born with female brain matter. So yes she is sure she wants to be a girl cos her fucking brain is telling her she is female.
BItch!

Nicole Dupre
03-29-2012, 11:43 PM
I knew I wanted to be a girl when I was 2. My parents spent 10 years trying to convince me to give it up. So I ran away at 13 and figured it out for myself. I spent years taking everyone else's word for it that I was "gay" because they weren't as informed as kids' parents and shrinks are today. I wasted lots of time because of it. I went through all kinds of shit for being "gay", and for trying to be honest and saying "I should have been born a girl". It indirectly caused me to go into prostitution in my teens and to live a dangerous life. I finally had to have a shrink tell me that I was a "primary transsexual", and a doctor tell me when I was an adult that I was probably born intersexed . So I say, let these kids do what they want. They probably aren't wrong, and being "gay" is a waste of time when you have GID.

AngelinaTorres
03-30-2012, 12:27 AM
I haven't spoked with Jeanette (Jazz's mum) in a long time! Good to know everyone is fine ♥

Beauty.x.Beauty
03-30-2012, 01:08 AM
I have been living as a transwoman since age 14.. So i can believe in my opinion that she wants to be a woman !!!

Exactly, I started my transition around the same time. Its something you know from when you are like 4 5 years old. At least that's when I knew. What you DON'T know is what you're going to do about it until you are about 13/14 when you can some what think for your self.

I think this is wonderful. I would have never believed this could happen while I was starting my transition. especially with crazy Jamaican parents. Families need to start embracing their trans children for a better future for our community.

justafreak
03-30-2012, 02:10 AM
She is an 11 year old girl not a transexual. Transexual are former gay bois who turn tricks to fiance their lifestyles and hard as they try only suceed at "passing" for whore.

Carrie_Parker
03-30-2012, 03:06 AM
She is an 11 year old girl not a transexual. Transexual are former gay bois who turn tricks to fiance their lifestyles and hard as they try only suceed at "passing" for whore.

What an ignorant comment, I won't waste my time trying to rebut it.

She is a smart, confident, self-aware, little firecracker that has more wisdom is her pinky than you have in your entire pathetic being.

robertlouis
03-30-2012, 04:12 AM
She is an 11 year old girl not a transexual. Transexual are former gay bois who turn tricks to fiance their lifestyles and hard as they try only suceed at "passing" for whore.

If you truly believe that you need to take your views elsewhere and leave this site, now.

SEXY TS JESS
03-30-2012, 06:54 AM
she is an 11 year old girl not a transexual. Transexual are former gay bois who turn tricks to fiance their lifestyles and hard as they try only suceed at "passing" for whore.

holy black jesus... See this type of ignorant comments.... Im not even going to waste my time on someone of such derogatory foolery. Internet bullys behind a screen name ha ha... You wish you would say that to a ts adult in person. I'd hope it will be me oneday.

Ryz
03-30-2012, 06:59 AM
Was honestly anyone thing that? Pervert

thinking***

Ryz
03-30-2012, 07:00 AM
She is an 11 year old girl not a transexual. Transexual are former gay bois who turn tricks to fiance their lifestyles and hard as they try only suceed at "passing" for whore.

Your trolling is pretty obvious, you should be more settle about it.

noble1337
03-30-2012, 07:30 AM
you dont have to have sexual thoughts to know whether or not you are a male/female

alyssaluxor
03-30-2012, 08:49 AM
around 3 or 4 or 5 years old i feel im a girl also
but i think even when i was still a fetus my heart, mind and soul is girl already lol

robertlouis
03-30-2012, 08:54 AM
The only people entitled to express an opinion on this subject are girls and women who have either transitioned or are going through the process.

So gentlemen, with respect, STFU.

Thank you.

And Alyssa, nice to hear from you again.

noble1337
03-30-2012, 12:45 PM
The only people entitled to express an opinion on this subject are girls and women who have either transitioned or are going through the process.

So gentlemen, with respect, STFU.

Thank you.

And Alyssa, nice to hear from you again.

and not the guys who have heard stories or talked with transgender girls about the subject?

with no respect, thank you

Nicole Dupre
03-30-2012, 12:46 PM
you dont have to have sexual thoughts to know whether or not you are a male/female
I didn't even know what sex was when I told my mother I was a girl. lol But then, when I was about 8 or 9, I got this impulse to kiss boys. I'd be talking to a boy, and suddenly I'd fantasize that he'd start kissing and holding me.

So that was a good 6 years after I was asking to have my nails polished and was dancing around my living room in my mom's clothes. That's when my mom told me, "Little boys don't do that. You're a boy, like daddy. Mommy's a girl."

I told her right then, "No. I'm a girl too."

She laughed and said, "Well, when you go to school and you have to pee, they'll make you use the boys room. You're a boy. You'll see."

My mother and grandmother told me this story. I wouldn't have remembered it. But I do remember crying and asking to have nailed painted. That's my earliest memory.

SEXY TS JESS
03-30-2012, 01:40 PM
i didn't even know what sex was when i told my mother i was a girl. Lol but then, when i was about 8 or 9, i got this impulse to kiss boys. I'd be talking to a boy, and suddenly i'd fantasize that he'd start kissing and holding me.

So that was a good 6 years after i was asking to have my nails polished and was dancing around my living room in my mom's clothes. That's when my mom told me, "little boys don't do that. You're a boy, like daddy. Mommy's a girl."

i told her right then, "no. I'm a girl too."

she laughed and said, "well, when you go to school and you have to pee, they'll make you use the boys room. You're a boy. You'll see."

my mother and grandmother told me this story. I wouldn't have remembered it. But i do remember crying and asking to have nailed painted. That's my earliest memory.

dont ya just luv how time and cultures evolve and how "your personal experience" is just that. Some people mature faster, some mature slower.... Clearly this "child" knows what she wants & needs.. Not to mention.. Stevie wonder can seeeeeeeeeeeee that this childs mother and father are highly educated in this disorder and educated the child.. Soooooooooo ???

cc74
03-30-2012, 02:36 PM
After watching it i must say its so nice to see she got such a supportive family. Its not like they "force" her into this lifestyle, they are just open minded parents letting her do what she wants and they allow her to be herself. Im not qualified to say whats right or wrong but i just feel it might be a little early to let a specialist say she got GID at the age of 3 - but then again they were worried for her and have cunsulted lots of leading experts over the last 8 years - if they come to the same conclusion as Jazz i wish her all the best on her journey. I still feel slightly sad for her though, not because she got GID but because "we", as a society, already punish her because of her choices and her last words in part 1 ("i dont have many friends at school") made me so sad.

Imo a big thanks to the producers of the docu as well, as they put the spotlight on Jazz and her family and maintained to show them respect and be informative and not make fun of her situation.

- - - -

Sad you didnt have such a supportive family Nicole but lets just hope more young children will experience parents like this in the future.

Nowhere
03-30-2012, 02:42 PM
I believe this is 100,000% inappropriate for a porn forum.

Nicole Dupre
03-30-2012, 02:45 PM
dont ya just luv how time and cultures evolve and how "your personal experience" is just that. Some people mature faster, some mature slower.... Clearly this "child" knows what she wants & needs.. Not to mention.. Stevie wonder can seeeeeeeeeeeee that this childs mother and father are highly educated in this disorder and educated the child.. Soooooooooo ???
Exactly. My parents thought anything that was outside the realm of conventional gender roles was "gay". So they told me it was "ok if I was gay" in my mid teens, that they realized I was born that way, but that I would have a hard life if I flaunted it. And all I ever did was flaunt it. lol

At first, I thought this was very advanced thinking on their parts. And if you listen to mentally ill haters like Rick Santorum, in some ways it was. But they didn't take me saying "I'm a girl" very seriously. I didn't even know what transsexuals were until I saw them on television. My parents never brought up the concept. Things like surgeries to become a woman were like worshiping Satan as far as they were concerned. lol

SEXY TS JESS
03-30-2012, 04:38 PM
i believe this is 100,000% inappropriate for a porn forum.

really .. Why?

Is it because its a child?

Is it because shes transgendered?

Is it because she not in porn?

Several people on here are not into doing or making porn.. Shes not clearly and cant...

She is though a transgender..... Which isnt this a "transexual forum nonetheless?"

what makes it so inappropriate?

Cuz its not some 17 year old kid name "travon" that got murdered? Isnt he a child? I didnt see an "inappropriate" comment on there... Is that inappropriate as well?

Your opinion is subjective...

fireblad
03-30-2012, 04:42 PM
really .. Why?

Is it because its a child?

Is it because shes transgendered?

Is it because she not in porn?

Several people on here are not into doing or making porn.. Shes not clearly and cant...

She is though a transgender..... Which isnt this a "transexual forum nonetheless?"

what makes it so inappropriate?

Cuz its not some 17 year old kid name "travon" that got murdered? Isnt he a child? I didnt see an "inappropriate" comment on there... Is that inappropriate as well?

Your opinion is subjective...

I love mouthy intelligent girls....what a turn on:)

giovanni_hotel
03-30-2012, 05:11 PM
11 is too young. Not by much, but I wouldn't approve a transition for someone that age.

GroobySteven
03-30-2012, 05:14 PM
and a doctor tell me when I was an adult that I was probably born intersexed .

Were you/are you intersexed? I thought this was genetics so testable/provable?

I'm all for letting these people be whom they want to be from an early age but I think elective surgery should be held back until at least after puberty.

Nicole Dupre
03-30-2012, 05:52 PM
Were you/are you intersexed? I thought this was genetics so testable/provable?

I'm all for letting these people be whom they want to be from an early age but I think elective surgery should be held back until at least after puberty.
Based on my pre-HRT levels, yes. My testo was practically non existent and my estro was above average. But the cost of a karotype test, at least the last I heard, was at least $800, and they can run as high as 2-3 K. I didn't think the info was so important at the time that it was worth knowing for sure, considering I was going to begin HRT regardless. My levels were well within the range of a woman my age within 6 months of HRT. As a kid, I sprouted tiny boy boobs at around 11 or 12. And I never grew much facial body hair. My skin was always very soft. And my voice never got much deeper until I started smoking either. lol

GroobySteven
03-30-2012, 06:01 PM
Based on my pre-HRT levels, yes. My testo was practically non existent and my estro was above average. But the cost of a karotype test, at least the last I heard, was at least $800, and they can run as high as 2-3 K. I didn't think the info was so important at the time that it was worth knowing for sure, considering I was going to begin HRT regardless. My levels were well within the range of a woman my age within 6 months of HRT. As a kid, I sprouted tiny boy boobs at around 11 or 12. And I never grew much facial body hair. My skin was always very soft. And my voice never got much deeper until I started smoking either. lol

Sincerely aren't you curious to find out though?

Nicole Dupre
03-30-2012, 06:18 PM
Sincerely aren't you curious to find out though?
Oh, definitely. Now I am. But my life has been extremely chaotic for the last 7 years. I lost my best friend and my dad, reconciled with just about everyone in my family. It's been a blur. And a grand or two has always seemed better spent on something else tbh. I finally have some real stability now. It's a bit weird, but in a good way. And I want SRS within the next 2 years; yet another costly bridge to cross. But I do want to know. Yes. It's one of the last things I'll need closure on. When I was a kid, I didn't know wtf my problem was. It would be nice to have a little validation. lol

Nicole Dupre
03-30-2012, 06:36 PM
11 is too young. Not by much, but I wouldn't approve a transition for someone that age.Says who? What's the difference? Why would you intentionally wait until secondary sexual characteristics started taking their toll? How many years do you play god with someone's life? Don't you think every transsexual knows enough long before then to make that decision? But they do say in the HBS that primary transsexuals know at a younger age. And if that's part of what makes me "primary", so be it. It's never seemed to do me much good in any practical way that I could see. All it did was make me feel out of place long before I even knew what sex was.

I used to not invest much in the concept of primary and secondary transsexuals. But I really think the transbians who jerk off to tranny porn are stuck somewhere between being transsexuals and hetero CDs. I think they fuck things up a bit for the primary transsexuals by placing so much importance on wanting to fuck their brains out from the minute they go through puberty. The older I get, the less I want to be associated with the crossdressers with no future and that whole mentality. And I still have a very healthy sexual appetite. But there's more to life than fucking. It's like they're stuck in the crossdressing version of a Peter Pan complex. Get a life at some point. You can still enjoy sex. lol

SEXY TS JESS
03-30-2012, 06:54 PM
11 is too young. Not by much, but i wouldn't approve a transition for someone that age.

well 8 years from credited "professionals" ... So i get your opinion. But i would go with the "professional(s)" over any random person any day...

SEXY TS JESS
03-30-2012, 07:02 PM
says who? What's the difference? Why would you intentionally wait until secondary sexual characteristics started taking their toll? How many years do you play god with someone's life? Don't you think every transsexual knows enough long before then to make that decision? But they do say in the hbs that primary transsexuals know at a younger age. And if that's part of what makes me "primary", so be it. It's never seemed to do me much good in any practical way that i could see. All it did was make me feel out of place long before i even knew what sex was.

I used to not invest much in the concept of primary and secondary transsexuals. But i really think the transbians who jerk off to tranny porn are stuck somewhere between being transsexuals and hetero cds. I think they fuck things up a bit for the primary transsexuals by placing so much importance on wanting to fuck their brains out from the minute they go through puberty. The older i get, the less i want to be associated with the crossdressers with no future and that whole mentality. And i still have a very healthy sexual appetite. But there's more to life than fucking. It's like they're stuck in the crossdressing version of a peter pan complex. Get a life at some point. You can still enjoy sex. Lol

omg i so love you!!!... Im so grateful for you sharing your personal details so people can see the "insight" and just not the finished product. I commend you for still keeping your sanity and being a beautiful transwoman you are despite going through the trials and tribulations "we" mostly go through. Gurl power!

Xoxox
jess

mildcigar_2001
03-30-2012, 07:10 PM
I would hate to have anything permanent done to the child at age 11. I obviously have no idea what is in the kid's mind, but things should be left to develop on there own (without either positive or negative encouragement).

I don't know that I would be ashamed of a gender-confused child, but I certainly would not allow them to be on TV. Can anyone imagine the shit this kid will go through at school??? I basicly have a live and let live philosophy, but people will come to grief when they actively flaut societal norms (granted they may not change there mind but why heap on the additional pressure).

The publicity almost puts them in a trap. A non-transexual example would be "Snooki" on MTV; I would bet that she would have long grown out of some of her behaviors but for the influence of being on TV and needing to keep up the image of a party girl. The same thing goes for the 11 year old, it will be a lot more difficult for them to change thier mind under the spotlight of publicity.

SEXY TS JESS
03-30-2012, 08:26 PM
i would hate to have anything permanent done to the child at age 11. I obviously have no idea what is in the kid's mind, but things should be left to develop on there own (without either positive or negative encouragement).

I don't know that i would be ashamed of a gender-confused child, but i certainly would not allow them to be on tv. Can anyone imagine the shit this kid will go through at school??? I basicly have a live and let live philosophy, but people will come to grief when they actively flaut societal norms (granted they may not change there mind but why heap on the additional pressure).

The publicity almost puts them in a trap. A non-transexual example would be "snooki" on mtv; i would bet that she would have long grown out of some of her behaviors but for the influence of being on tv and needing to keep up the image of a party girl. The same thing goes for the 11 year old, it will be a lot more difficult for them to change thier mind under the spotlight of publicity.

*blank look*
^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>> baffled... How and what type of comparison is a "party" image to a "gender dysphoria disorderrrrrrr"? Gid does "not" change. Its a disorder ! Even before pre-op and still after post-op. It will always be a "disorder". So how does someone changing from a "partyyyyyyyy girl" to a "good girl" have the same correlation?
*dumb look again*

you would rather see your child:
Rebel x10
depressed x100
suicidal x10
drug abuser x100
rejection x1,000
confused x100
hurt x1,000

wow.... This is the reason why trans-kids "grow-up" with all types of freaking issues... Ughhh <sad face>

Nicole Dupre
03-30-2012, 08:33 PM
omg i so love you!!!... Im so grateful for you sharing your personal details so people can see the "insight" and just not the finished product. I commend you for still keeping your sanity and being a beautiful transwoman you are despite going through the trials and tribulations "we" mostly go through. Gurl power!

Xoxox
jess
Thank you for being supportive, sister. And I agree. We see and do things people will never understand or appreciate. In fact, we sometimes end up taking years to understand and appreciate them ourselves. Religious people think they have "faith"? That's nothing compared to the faith and strong will required to be transsexuals. lol :)

maxpower
03-30-2012, 08:34 PM
I would hate to have anything permanent done to the child at age 11. I obviously have no idea what is in the kid's mind, but things should be left to develop on there own (without either positive or negative encouragement).

I don't know that I would be ashamed of a gender-confused child, but I certainly would not allow them to be on TV. Can anyone imagine the shit this kid will go through at school??? I basicly have a live and let live philosophy, but people will come to grief when they actively flaut societal norms (granted they may not change there mind but why heap on the additional pressure).

The publicity almost puts them in a trap. A non-transexual example would be "Snooki" on MTV; I would bet that she would have long grown out of some of her behaviors but for the influence of being on TV and needing to keep up the image of a party girl. The same thing goes for the 11 year old, it will be a lot more difficult for them to change thier mind under the spotlight of publicity.

Uh, did you even watch the videos? Did you see how happy and at ease Jazz is as a girl? It's not behavior that she is going to grow out of, regardless of whether or not she has publicity from TV. People in her community and her school already know about her. Jazz seems strong enough emotionally to be able to deal with any negativity. Her intelligent, loving, and supportive family have seen to that. Her parents stated that they are not pushing her towards transition, but just allowing her to be who she wants to be, and she is gravitating towards being a girl. She knows what she wants. The next step is the puberty blocking drugs, which is not a permanent step. Should Jazz decide in a few years that she wants to be a boy, the treatments stop and she enters male puberty. But that's not going to happen. She is so innately feminine and happy as a girl. Having to be male is what would cause her grief, not transition. It's pretty obvious.

SEXY TS JESS
03-30-2012, 08:40 PM
thank you for being supportive, sister. And i agree. We see and do things people will never understand or appreciate. In fact, we sometimes end up taking years to understand and appreciate them ourselves. Religious people think they have "faith"? That's nothing compared to the faith and strong will required to be transsexuals. Lol :)

agrees 200%

have you read my post in the "fem boys" forum topic?

buttslinger
03-30-2012, 09:16 PM
Maybe this has nothing to do with this topic, but I heard and I believe that 10 year old nudists can spot a perv from 200 yards away. Maybe that's because they're in the bushes with binoculars, I don't know. Kids are smart.
Gender doesn't fuck up your mind, sex does.

SEXY TS JESS
03-31-2012, 06:24 AM
uh, did you even watch the videos? Did you see how happy and at ease jazz is as a girl? It's not behavior that she is going to grow out of, regardless of whether or not she has publicity from tv. People in her community and her school already know about her. Jazz seems strong enough emotionally to be able to deal with any negativity. Her intelligent, loving, and supportive family have seen to that. Her parents stated that they are not pushing her towards transition, but just allowing her to be who she wants to be, and she is gravitating towards being a girl. She knows what she wants. The next step is the puberty blocking drugs, which is not a permanent step. Should jazz decide in a few years that she wants to be a boy, the treatments stop and she enters male puberty. But that's not going to happen. She is so innately feminine and happy as a girl. Having to be male is what would cause her grief, not transition. It's pretty obvious.

awww, thanks! Agreed