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BrendaQG
03-18-2012, 07:16 PM
Hello all long time no talk.

I ask you all is it just me or are these fools struggling to describe a transsexual/transgender woman?


Mar 16, 2012 3:02pm
California Man Poses as Woman for 13 Years, Accused of Identity Theft
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Police mugshots of Perla Serrano, 51, a homeless man arrested in California and accused of posing as a woman to get medical care. Images: Orange County Sheriff's Department

By Melissa Morrissette
A man accused of stealing and using a woman’s identity for 13 years has been arrested — but not before racking up thousands of dollars in medical bills and creating a living nightmare for his victim, say authorities.
Perla Serrano was found by a deputy in San Clemente, Calif., sleeping in a public area in violation of a city ordinance. The deputy believed the 51-year-old homeless man was a woman, but grew suspicious when he saw a hospital wristband with a different name.
“The deputy called San Clemente Hospital and was informed by San Clemente personnel that the person was actually a man, not a woman,” said Orange County Sheriff’s spokesman Jim Amormino.
According to authorities, Serrano came into possession of a piece of identification belonging to the victim, who is only being named publicly as Perla K. He was able to use it to get a health care card in her name, they said. In the felony complaint, Serrano and the victim share the same first name.
“The suspect has been charging medical services at as many as four hospitals in south Orange County and the damage is expected to be well over $100,000,” said Amormino. “He has 6-10 aliases that we know of, but so far we only know of one victim.”

Serrano was held on $20,000 bail pending arraignment. He faces six charges, including grand theft, commercial burglary, and identity theft.
“The victim has had to make several court appearances to clear up several arrest warrants over the years for crimes she didn’t commit. I am sure she is just happy it’s over,” said Amormino.


Huffpo is not better anymore either.

Perla Serrano, Homeless Man, Allegedly Posed As a Woman For Medical Care (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/17/perla-serrano-homeless-man-poses-as-woman_n_1355766.html)

Does this sound like the story of a cross dressing man or a transwoman who did something wrong?

GroobySteven
03-18-2012, 07:19 PM
Sounds more like a case of if medical care was free, then there wouldn't have been a problem? If those are recent mugshots, looks great for 51.

BrendaQG
03-18-2012, 07:23 PM
Sounds more like a case of if medical care was free, then there wouldn't have been a problem? If those are recent mugshots, looks great for 51.

At least for the very poor like this person. It's called medicaid it covers people like that here in Illinois.

My thing is why would they not steal a mans ID if they ID as a man? The media reports this as if this was just some Buffalo Bill dressing up to get into hospital because a man can't...which isn't the case.

SFTB
03-18-2012, 07:54 PM
Sounds more like a case of if medical care was free, then there wouldn't have been a problem? If those are recent mugshots, looks great for 51.

Sooo, if they dont hand out free money tomorrow, should we all go rob a bank?

RallyCola
03-18-2012, 08:26 PM
yes...the US medical insurance system sucks whether you have an HMO, PPO or medicaid/medicare, but this is identity theft. it doesn't matter if the suspect is or is not trans...but rather that Perla K's identity was stolen so this suspect, iff guilty, needs to be jailed.

now...i really don't buy that this person was 100% trans like a more traditional trans. I think you, Brenda, are reading FAR too much into what you think the media is trying to do here than what really is. I am sure that this person didn't just steal an identity for medical care.

GroobySteven
03-18-2012, 08:29 PM
Sooo, if they dont hand out free money tomorrow, should we all go rob a bank?

If you needed that money for medical for you or a family member, go for it.
Stop being a douche and stalking my posts. Still upset of the idiocy you posted on the other one?

SFTB
03-18-2012, 08:52 PM
Sounds more like a case of if medical care was free, then there wouldn't have been a problem? If those are recent mugshots, looks great for 51.

Okay, going by your reasoning, the people you rant about stealing and pirating your content, if you had providied it for free there wouldn't have been a problem? Allow me to rephrase your sentence.

Sounds more like a case of if Yum content was free, then Pirating it wouldn't have been a problem?

Takes a blase' attitude for everyone that works for a living, earns what they get in life, whether meds or online porn. Also takes a blind eye to the person whose credit was destroyed by identity theft, and the providers ripped off.

timxxx
03-18-2012, 09:22 PM
Okay, going by your reasoning, the people you rant about stealing and pirating your content, if you had providied it for free there wouldn't have been a problem? Allow me to rephrase your sentence.

Sounds more like a case of if Yum content was free, then Pirating it wouldn't have been a problem?

Takes a blase' attitude for everyone that works for a living, earns what they get in life, whether meds or online porn. Also takes a blind eye to the person whose credit was destroyed by identity theft, and the providers ripped off.

Only moron would equate porn to medical care,free medical care is a basic human right in the rest of the civilized world.

tslvr
03-18-2012, 09:32 PM
I wish we could all have free health care, but how good would the doctors be in that system? I mean would you take on several hundred thousand in med school debts to go out and earn zero or minimal income?

GroobySteven
03-18-2012, 09:43 PM
I wish we could all have free health care, but how good would the doctors be in that system? I mean would you take on several hundred thousand in med school debts to go out and earn zero or minimal income?

Doctors get reasonably well paid in Europe and they're free? But we digress.

GroobySteven
03-18-2012, 09:44 PM
Only moron would equate porn to medical care,free medical care is a basic human right in the rest of the civilized world.

Yep, Moron or Mormon.

BrendaQG
03-18-2012, 10:56 PM
now...i really don't buy that this person was 100% trans like a more traditional trans. I think you, Brenda, are reading FAR too much into what you think the media is trying to do here than what really is. I am sure that this person didn't just steal an identity for medical care.

Yes if they are going to steal an identity why not steal the identity of a man with health insurance? Perhaps if you don't identify as a man.

According to this report the person ID'd female at all times.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/california-man-poses-as-woman-for-13-years-accused-of-identity-theft/


Yep, Moron or Mormon.
Or a moron who is a mormon...with lots of money and nice hair.

RallyCola
03-18-2012, 11:24 PM
i really don't think most people understand how physicians are paid anymore. plus i don't care whether anyone believes i do what i do but because too many FUCKING RETARDED PEOPLE THINK QUALITY MEDICAL CARE IS TIED TO HOW MUCH MDs ARE PAID....

My salary is paid largely by the department and part from my PI's grants. The 70% of my salary that is covered by the department comes from medical billing that is HIGHLY REGULATED and negotiated rates with insurance companies, the tuition columbia collects from all the new medical, dental and masters students as well as our endowments and private donations. My salary does not come from a bill I send to Aetna. Even private practice internists and family doctors have negotiated rates and are generally not independently billing in many cases.

If you really think that the quality of your medical care will deteriorate if we had a 100% publically funded system that afforded everyone coverage, you are sorely mistaken. That said, many of you fail to realize that medical school loans are postponed until after residency and fellowship. Moreover, if you get into a quality school/hospital, they will subsidize your loan payments. Finally, there are at least 31 NIH programs beyond F and K awards that repay loans for MDs or MD/PhDs actively involved in research. It is only those docs that end up at shitty matches/residencies/fellowships at local community hospitals that really have to worry about loan repayment. 90% of my class could care less about their loans or repayment. Most of my friends and colleagues want no part of family medicine or private practice and will likely stay within a university hospital setting because the salary and job security are better (automatically tenured because of the MD degree) and malpractice insurance payments are subsidized or non-existent. For those that aren't getting subsidized or are at shitty positions...fuck them...they should have scored better in school.

The long and the short of it is that medical care WILL NOT be compromised. It is a fallacy cooked up by people who don't understand anything about how modern medical practices work OR how socialized medicine really works in other countries. All you fuckers know is what Fox News tells you. Fucking idiots!

Sorry...didn't mean to threadjack...but i find it amazing how vocal and UNINFORMED the opposition to healthcare for all usually are.

BrendaQG
03-19-2012, 12:52 AM
Oh no one reasonable thinks that there will be lower quality care. They fear:

If healthcare is provided at no cost there will be a lack of fully qualified doctors (especially specialist). People will end up being treated by Nurse Practioners instead of MD's.

'' Government bureaucrats will decide who should get healthcare and then what kind of healthcare.

'' it will create a less fair system. Most people will be priced out of affording a good private doctor. The haves and rich will, instead of waiting in line, contract with private practioners for great sums of cash money. The best doctors will be able to do that and they will. (In addition to taking in medicaid paitients.)

The major concern: Government will use healthcare as an excuse to interfere in the most personal aspects of our privates lives from what we eat to how we have sex.

BrendaQG
03-19-2012, 02:10 AM
Back on topic: The media misidentification of a woman as being a man.

http://www.39online.com/videogallery/68846893/News/VIDEO-Man-Assumes-Female-Victim-s-Identity-watch-Chip-Yost-s-report

The end of that video makes it clear that this person identified as a woman. Then was put in mans jail due to having male parts. I would not be shocked to find out this person has been raped by the time they go before a judge on Monday.

Ryz
03-19-2012, 04:23 AM
How do the homeless have such youthful skin, cot dayum

SFTB
03-19-2012, 04:41 AM
Only moron would equate porn to medical care,free medical care is a basic human right in the rest of the civilized world.

Once again, you totally ignore the point, that someone stole a persons identity, and used it to scam the hospitals for years out of several hundred thousand dollars. It's called theft. I'll try to dumb it down for you.

If someone stole your identity, and used it to order several hundred dollars of tapes and subscriptions from Grooby, you would feel violated. Because someone stole from you, its called theft. Seanchai would in turn unleash the hounds, threatening all kinds of court action once you chargedback all that money and he found out he had been stolen from.

But I think both of you know all that. Your both playng devil's dumbasses to make a political point. Your point denigrates every girl I know who has worked her ass off doing everything from working fast food, styling hair all the way to porn and escorting to pay for their transition. Shit, they should have just stolen someone's identity and scammed the healthcare system according to you two.

ShitPope
03-19-2012, 06:36 AM
Sounds more like a case of if medical care was free, then there wouldn't have been a problem

Yea, and if houses were free no one would be homeless. If food was free no one would go hungry. If video games were free we would never be bored. Too bad all of those things require resources to produce. Nothing is free, why would medical care be?

SFTB
03-19-2012, 07:31 AM
Back on topic: The media misidentification of a woman as being a man.

http://www.39online.com/videogallery/68846893/News/VIDEO-Man-Assumes-Female-Victim-s-Identity-watch-Chip-Yost-s-report

The end of that video makes it clear that this person identified as a woman. Then was put in mans jail due to having male parts. I would not be shocked to find out this person has been raped by the time they go before a judge on Monday.

Brenda,
Before you go marching on the courthouse, widen your internet searches.
http://missionviejo.patch.com/articles/cross-dresser-used-womans-identity-for-13-years-officials-say-720c1b88

Somehow the victim who has had to deal with +$100,000 in false debt, and dealing with "failure to appear" warrants for the past 13 years is completely negligible to you. The article also mentions that none of the medical expenses were for "cosmetic purposes" which I guess is their way of saying hormones or gender surgery.

Now, until you have to spend 13 years of your life constantly calling the credit companies trying to straighten the mess up, going to the courthouse for something you didnt do, always wondering when you wake up if something else has been perptrated in your once good name, maybe show one freaking ounce of sympathy for the real victim?