Caught by wife n shes ready to leave

[Dark passenger]

Damn my wife found out im all into shemales n she aint the understanding type. She totally flipped n is leaving. Questions arrive n she aint ready for the truth! Any ideas what i should do?

[saintpatrick]

Visit a lawyer. Ask what the likely results of a divorce would be for you. Think about that and either give up the shemales and make nice to the wife, or give up the wife and make nice with the shemales.

[Dark passenger]

I guess thats what its gnna have to be. Im me i like shemales. It got real crazy. She jus aint with it. Like im not gay but i like gitls wiyh covks. So much to deal with i dont know.

[Dark passenger]

Honestly she shouldve know a lil sumthin when i started wearin her drawls.

[Fancy fancy]

This is quite a conundrum. Sounds like there will be short term pain, but just for one moment, imagine if you pursued shemales 100%, without the need to hide etc - could be quite something

How did she catch you>?

[Dark passenger]

The computer. I got a different email n i was setting up a date with an escort n forgot to log out.

[Icanthelpmyself]

Damn that's fucked up, I would ask what;s her intentions, are their kids? Is she the type to cut your balls off just to prove her point of dislike? It would be hard to just cutting the girls out of your life, I know for me it's like crack once you got that taste you just keep chasing.

[Dark passenger]

First it was the questions, have u ever done this before how many times did i let her put her dick in me did i suck a dick fid i like it u kno all that. Then i was bein real n told her so she called everyone WE knew even my parents n fam n said she was marriedcto a fagit told rhe neighbors n shit. Told em i wear girld drawls n shit. But it is what it is. I hope she can come around n get open to it

[jasonb523]

why would u set up a date with an escort throught email smart one. U sound too okay with the situation for this to be true.

[RallyCola]

well, i'm really not sympathetic here because you were cheating on her.

when i first read your post, i assumed she found some tranny porn on your computer and reacted with disgust, etc. but she found evidence of you cheating on her with an escort. i find that most women, g or t, are not happy that their man is cheating on them and visiting escorts behind their back. so on top of that, it is a tranny escort...can you blame her for not being understanding???

in my experience, most women, even if disgusted with tranny porn, can learn to accept it or at least ignore it. being unfaithful is just always a harder pill to swallow.

like someone said above...visit a lawyer and get ready to lose half of your shit...you deserve it.

that said...your tone and phrasing and fact that you are coming here for advice makes this seem like it could be a trolling post. what escort sets up dates via email....most have a whole call system in place

[Nicole Dupre]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzz............

[Dark passenger]

First off i dont kno how im suppost to fuckin react 2nd im far from ok. Its wild as hell n what the fuck theres emails to see if they gonna been in town for that weekend. I got a lot on my plate right now a bit of advice would be appreciated. I got caught. Funny as hell not bbein true.

[Dark passenger]

Its cool i figured maybe someine been through it and could tell me a way to explain how to go about trying to get her open to it. The email was to check her availability but i been wantin to bring it to light that i am interested in that kind of stuff. Wow

[RallyCola]

dude...only you know your wife here and can predict how she will react to anything you say and do. lawyer up and let her go if that is what she wants. if you think you can curtail your cheating and she will take you back, then beg like a fat homeless dude outside of a dunkin donuts.

7 posts since joining in dec 2011 and most of them are in this thread. hard to believe your story...that's all

[Dark passenger]

Man i jus read shit n look at pictures foreal foreal. This is the first thing i had to talk bout. Ill take ur advice prepare for he worst n try in the meantime. Im jus still in shock its crazy but thanks

[pontgmc]

My head hurts after trying to decipher your sentences...

[Ryz]

The computer. I got a different email n i was setting up a date with an escort n forgot to log out.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0hzol7NYd1r0w3u0o1_500.gif

[chromeheart44m]

my advice dog when i got caught was to tell her i was a sex addict that i wa into goat fucking besyiality and everything under the sun @ the end shemaleswere no big deal but it will take some time i was called a fag many times by her. it makes sense women feel u r more attracted to men than to her they cant handle it sometimes should blow over jus buy her something and be good 4 a while good luck

[oak]

might be to little to late. It's all in the approach. My gg gf is totally cool with me being into ts but she found out after I made love to her and treated her like a queen. I then told her one of my fantasies. She didn't find out because I left an email on the computer. Going and telling the world you're a fag is pretty f'd up but I'm guessing she did it because she wanted to hurt you as badly as you hurt her. She probably feels betrayed by you and that is what hurts the most not that you have unusual likes.

[Jamie French]

You cheated. You deserve whatever you get. No advice, just the knowledge that there are people out there loving the fact that you have really hard times ahead. I wonder who your wife is going to fuck now? A friend of yours perhaps? Women are wicked that way... sleep tight.

[pb9717]

I can t believe how unsympathetic you all are. Dudes gonna lose his house, wife, kids, everything and werembeinghard on the guy. Everybody makes a mistake and everybody deserves a second chance. You love your wife? Then try and fix it. Do whatever it takes .

[oak]

I wonder who your wife is going to fuck now? A friend of yours perhaps? Women are wicked that way... sleep tight.

haha ouch. so true but remind me to stay far away from you Jamie. OP you got some lumps coming your way. Time to man up.

[Jamie French]

My backpage ad specifically states, "NO MARRIED MEN". I'm deadly serious about infidelity. It's so easy to be single and fuck whoever you want. There just isn't any excuse. You decide to promise a monogamous relationship but you desire a bit of strange from time to time? Well, that's YOUR fuck up. Should have thought ahead and remained single.

[oak]

You're right Jamie. Can't argue that. You make the bed you lay in

[EvonRose]

People are grown enough to make choices here, when you leave your house and screw a ts, you know the consequences you just chose to ignore them. if you really loved your wife your actions would have shown different choices made. But maybe its good thing for you maybe its time you soak your wild oats now.... Unfortunately, if i was your wife i can understand why she's leaving you. I would too....

[ed_jaxon]

Here is my best advice.

You should not be married. Move out, move on. Thinks get better if you live honestly. Things will be awkward and painful for a while but it can get better.

[Willie Escalade]

I agree with the last four posts. That's why I'm single and not in a relationship...

[seamonkey]

I say shoot the bitch, then shoot yourself. Problem solved for all. Maybe first shoot the rest of the family she told about it. Hell, go on a great big ole shootin' spree.

[EvonRose]

I say shoot the bitch, then shoot yourself. Problem solved for all. Maybe first shoot the rest of the family she told about it. Hell, go on a great big ole shootin' spree.


:screwy

[JenniferParisHusband]

Here is my best advice.

You should not be married. Move out, move on. Thinks get better if you live honestly. Things will be awkward and painful for a while but it can get better.

Some of the best advice I've ever seen on here.

[teegeelover]

Some of the best advice I've ever seen on here.

I agree.

[Prospero]

Assuming that Dark Passenger is for real - and that this is not a trolling thread - I think some of the guys and girls on here have been really rather unhelpful.

I think that to tell him he simply should not be married is to take an oddly moralistic stand. Consider one possibility. Perhaps this guy loves his wife and has a satisfactory sexual life with her. Perhaps they have kids (not mentioned) or whatever... lives can become entangled. But also perhaps - and I am sure this could well be the case - there are impulses or aspects of himself that he simply was unaware off when he married and which he has fairly recenty discovered. ie his attraction to transexuals . What is this guy meant to do in this case? Tepress this for his entire life. Our culture is so positive towards self realization. Towards non repression. So he either walks away from a marriage that might well, in every other respect, be happy - for sexual reasons - or he pursues a covert secondary sex life with escorts. The same strategy is surely followed by millin of men around the world who are into certain forms of sexuality which are not available with their partners (BDSM for instance). I'm not saying he is morally right and I think that escorts like Jamie are right to state they will NOT see married men. For her that is a orincipled moral position. That is clear. But we do not live in a morally lucid universe. There are a million shades of grey. I've also seen adverts by escorts saying they openly welcome married men. It's a more complex issue than many of the people posting here acknowledge.

My suggestion to Dark Passenger then is to try to save his marriage if he truly loves his wife and to seek help. These issues need to be worked through. He does not deserve condemnation. As Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

[giovanni_hotel]

Just tell the truth.
If it's your first time contacting an escort, tell her that. Give her the 'porn addiction' BS and how you somehow fell down the rabbit hole.

Ask her to forgive you, that whole 'for better and for worse' crap.
If she loves you and you don't have a track record for being an asshole, maybe you get another shot.

It's not like she came home and caught you in bed with someone.

IMO it sounds like you're more pressed because she found out you have a thing for trannies.
Did you try the 'but hon I didn't know what MTF meant.'lol
Hope you don't have kids. That would suck.

[noble1337]

I guess thats what its gnna have to be. Im me i like shemales. It got real crazy. She jus aint with it. Like im not gay but i like gitls wiyh covks. So much to deal with i dont know.

oh jeez...

"like im not gay but i like gitls wiyh covks" should be the banner for hung angels

[Jamie French]

That's all fine and well, but go ahead and tell his WIFE about 'shades of grey' and see how far you get. The dude fucked up. He made vows so by default he is to repress anything that would jeopardize those vows. Sorry, but that's the social contract... no one held a gun to his head. He could have just as easily remained single, divorced his wife first or kept that shit tucked away nice and deep in his brains. Acting on impulse? NOT AN OPTION. He signed a contract. Case closed.



Assuming that Dark Passenger is for real - and that this is not a trolling thread - I think some of the guys and girls on here have been really rather unhelpful.

I think that to tell him he simply should not be married is to take an oddly moralistic stand. Consider one possibility. Perhaps this guy loves his wife and has a satisfactory sexual life with her. Perhaps they have kids (not mentioned) or whatever... lives can become entangled. But also perhaps - and I am sure this could well be the case - there are impulses or aspects of himself that he simply was unaware off when he married and which he has fairly recenty discovered. ie his attraction to transexuals . What is this guy meant to do in this case? Tepress this for his entire life. Our culture is so positive towards self realization. Towards non repression. So he either walks away from a marriage that might well, in every other respect, be happy - for sexual reasons - or he pursues a covert secondary sex life with escorts. The same strategy is surely followed by millin of men around the world who are into certain forms of sexuality which are not available with their partners (BDSM for instance). I'm not saying he is morally right and I think that escorts like Jamie are right to state they will NOT see married men. For her that is a orincipled moral position. That is clear. But we do not live in a morally lucid universe. There are a million shades of grey. I've also seen adverts by escorts saying they openly welcome married men. It's a more complex issue than many of the people posting here acknowledge.

My suggestion to Dark Passenger then is to try to save his marriage if he truly loves his wife and to seek help. These issues need to be worked through. He does not deserve condemnation. As Jesus said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

[GroobySteven]

I'm with Prospero's first sentence and calling a big BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHHIIIIIIIIIIIT on this. I've seen so many troll posts like this. Who the fuck needs advice from a forum like this on a matter like this.
Fuck off.

[dogsandcats]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/3/6/8db990d6-fe25-49d0-afac-b3a59068cb1a.jpg

[daltx_m]

just show her the door and tell her to kick rocks.

[maaarc]

I'm with Prospero's first sentence and calling a big BULLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHHIIIIIIIIIIIT on this. I've seen so many troll posts like this. Who the fuck needs advice from a forum like this on a matter like this.
Fuck off.

agreed, this cannot be for real - was funny thou :)

[Dark passenger]

I dnt know what a troll is but fuck whoever dont know what im feelliig right now. And i never got caught fucking anybody. I was wrong definitely so thats on me and my personal issues are what I have to deal with. Thanks for the advice, helpful or not.

[scroller]

My backpage ad specifically states, "NO MARRIED MEN". I'm deadly serious about infidelity. It's so easy to be single and fuck whoever you want. There just isn't any excuse. You decide to promise a monogamous relationship but you desire a bit of strange from time to time? Well, that's YOUR fuck up. Should have thought ahead and remained single... He made vows so by default he is to repress anything that would jeopardize those vows. Sorry, but that's the social contract...

So, I'm wondering: Do you allow exceptions for open marriages? Like, if they wrote their own vows to wit: "I promise to be happy with whatever makes you happy and cherish our time together?"

I share your instinct, but I also get this line from a few friends in open marriages: "Marriage is whatever you define it to be for yourselves". Agree/disagree?

[Jamie French]

Nah, I don't mess around with wishy/washy situations like that. I run a tight ship. Straight lines and right angles all the way.

[BJ4TS]

I'd ask if she needs any help packing her stuff.

[irvin66]

Shit happens, it's a pity! :?

[ed_jaxon]

Couple of things here that to me seem pretty obvious.

1. Dude might be a a gag but even if the situation is not real does not hurt to act as if it is.

2. If dude is real he is not acting like he wants to be in the relationship. Being on the creep tip does not allow one to act as if she has the problem. He is not contrite at all.

You were cheating, got busted and rather than try to work it out, he comes on a TS forum for advice. Not the actions of one who wants to work it out.

[Prospero]

I think I agree with Ed - there is something odd about bouncing on here straight away the minute the shit hits the fan. It surely not where I'd go if i were in trouble.

[Dark passenger]

This is thelast post ill write since it blows my mind that alot of folks think this is bullshit. 1 where the hell out can i talk to someone who been somewhat familiar with some shit like this. Lets see..... let me jus call one of the homies like yo what up dawg, ya just want to tell you how i dig chicks with big ass dicks. Can u imagine that conversation. My business is MINE. To people here its normal, to anyone else theres something wrong. Fuck it i give up. Plus now she gone i got nothin but time, may as well get some advice. I pity anyone who would create a story like who the fuck does that. Thanks im out ill figure it out.

[giovanni_hotel]

Hope everybody's happy.
Why did you think he's a troll?? To be honest, I might come here with a similar problem if I were in the same situation.

For real, there isn't a Dear Abby for dudes into TGs!lol

[bluesoul]

Honestly she shouldve know a lil sumthin when i started wearin her drawls.

http://i43.tinypic.com/b8l3bn.gif

[BLKGSXR]

All Bad!

[giovanni_hotel]

http://i43.tinypic.com/b8l3bn.gif


On the first read through, I missed the post about wearing his woman's 'drawls'.

Ebonics gone very wrong.

I smell a caucasion being not so funny.

[rockabilly]

Lol got caught with your pants down.

[Nikka]

years ago when I used to run www.shemalechix.com (http://www.shemalechix.com) , a wife got my number (no clue how) and called me that her husband was using his credit card for my shemale porn, and she was going to leave him cause he was gay and enjoy´s cock

she shud have talked with her shrink and no with me? why I wud give a fucking fuck?

edit: stupid women

[Badgrammar7]

fuck her. If she loved you then she would not leave you like that

[TsVanessa69]

I can t believe how unsympathetic you all are. Dudes gonna lose his house, wife, kids, everything and werembeinghard on the guy. Everybody makes a mistake and everybody deserves a second chance. You love your wife? Then try and fix it. Do whatever it takes .
when you make your bed, you lay in it. this dude like most of you, are cheaters. See from my end, I don't give a fuck, cuz its jus business, men are dogs, will always cheat and it works for me. Unsympethetic cuz ya dumb ass got caught for being stupid. Unsympethetic cuz he married a female, but like shemales, and not man enough to come clean?
No sympthy here, sorry for the escort that didnt get paid, its happen to me and I know how she feels.

[hefzfavebunii]

when you make your bed, you lay in it. this dude like most of you, are cheaters. See from my end, I don't give a fuck, cuz its jus business, men are dogs, will always cheat and it works for me. Unsympethetic cuz ya dumb ass got caught for being stupid. Unsympethetic cuz he married a female, but like shemales, and not man enough to come clean?
No sympthy here, sorry for the escort that didnt get paid, its happen to me and I know how she feels.

:iagree: :iagree: :iagree:

[EvonRose]

I can't believe the stupid advices some of the men here are giving, how can you except people to be sympathetic to someone who done someone wrong? Put yourself in her position for once and stop thinking about your dicks. There are better ways to end a marriage than cheating, your setting yourself up. I rather a man tell me he's not sexually satisfied and then have a mutual break up ass oppose to getting me hurt by infidelity... Are you kidding I hate to beat a dead horse but he to blame and he knows, he just needs comforting not some stupid advices.

[giovanni_hotel]

There are two sides in every relationship.

I don't know the specific dynamics of his marriage, I don't know what's going on inside and outside of their bedroom. Not saying it's his wife's fault for him setting up a date with an escort, but it's possible that it's a symptom of a greater problem in their relationship of which she possibly bears much of the blame.
Too many times women aren't sexually available in relationships and need to be coached on their 'motivation' to have sex in the first place.

If your woman needs to be 'romanced' and connected with 'emotionally' to get her in the mood, IMO she's using her pussy as a weapon of mass destruction.

I just don't know enough.

But I can relate like most guys when you fuck up in a relationship and still want to be with the woman you love.

He's married, not dating.

So I think there should be more effort put into finding a resolution that goes beyond the knee jerk, 'kick him to the curb'.

Besides he DIDN'T cheat in this case, although he made plans to do so. That's the ray of hope I see for salvaging his marriage.

When celebs reconcile with each other and save their marriages from bouts of infidelity, I don't hear all this contempt and hostility.

However, if the dude wants to fuck everyone under sun and his wife on Sundays, it's best IMO for all involved that he's goes solo.

[Yvonne183]

I think it's time for Oprah Whitney to take over this topic.

Sorry bout your troubles dude,, maybe things will work out for the better.

Peace

[russtafa]

when you make your bed, you lay in it. this dude like most of you, are cheaters. See from my end, I don't give a fuck, cuz its jus business, men are dogs, will always cheat and it works for me. Unsympethetic cuz ya dumb ass got caught for being stupid. Unsympethetic cuz he married a female, but like shemales, and not man enough to come clean?
No sympthy here, sorry for the escort that didnt get paid, its happen to me and I know how she feels.lady you nailed it in one these guys want their cake and eat it two

[dogsandcats]

I dnt know what a troll is but fuck whoever dont know what im feelliig right now. And i never got caught fucking anybody. I was wrong definitely so thats on me and my personal issues are what I have to deal with. Thanks for the advice, helpful or not.

Take pix of you in your wife's drawls and post them on hungangels.com.

Amateur self shot thread please.

[fordly66]

First things first, the dumb ass needs to learn how to type and/or spell. Gave me a headache trying to read his messed up story. Second, he needs to be faithful to his wife. If he is not happy being married to her, get a freaking divorce and be single, then he can do what his little heart desires!

[traLika]

Troll scream!! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zP8vZSkhro)

[EvonRose]

There are two sides in every relationship.

I don't know the specific dynamics of his marriage, I don't know what's going on inside and outside of their bedroom. Not saying it's his wife's fault for him setting up a date with an escort, but it's possible that it's a symptom of a greater problem in their relationship of which she possibly bears much of the blame.
Too many times women aren't sexually available in relationships and need to be coached on their 'motivation' to have sex in the first place.

If your woman needs to be 'romanced' and connected with 'emotionally' to get her in the mood, IMO she's using her pussy as a weapon of mass destruction.

I just don't know enough.

But I can relate like most guys when you fuck up in a relationship and still want to be with the woman you love.

He's married, not dating.

So I think there should be more effort put into finding a resolution that goes beyond the knee jerk, 'kick him to the curb'.

Besides he DIDN'T cheat in this case, although he made plans to do so. That's the ray of hope I see for salvaging his marriage.

When celebs reconcile with each other and save their marriages from bouts of infidelity, I don't hear all this contempt and hostility.

However, if the dude wants to fuck everyone under sun and his wife on Sundays, it's best IMO for all involved that he's goes solo.

No cheating is cheating... If the wife had not caught him he would have pursued it, things happen for reasons and this would be enough for me to leave. When you make that vow you signed up for it, and maybe the woman didn't give sex enough, as a man find a solution, break it off, and then venture out or if romancing is what it takes do so. Women want to feel like sex isn't taken for granted so romancing them is a way to make them passionate with you, Men are so one track minded these days. Pursuing a woman does not end in marriage its both responsibility to keep that flame going sex and romancing both.... He cheated without finding a solution to the problem he wanted a way out, cheating was his solution and that's not right.

[bluesoul]

when you make your bed, you lay in it. this dude like most of you, are cheaters. See from my end, I don't give a fuck, cuz its jus business, men are dogs, will always cheat and it works for me. Unsympethetic cuz ya dumb ass got caught for being stupid. Unsympethetic cuz he married a female, but like shemales, and not man enough to come clean?
No sympthy here, sorry for the escort that didnt get paid, its happen to me and I know how she feels.

in other words

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltcoeniOiH1r2vj2bo10_100.gif

[RallyCola]

who here wants this dude's wife to clean this dude out in the divorce settlement?

[TsVanessa69]

lady you nailed it in one these guys want their cake and eat it two
if they were not so fuckn stupid they could. Men always cheat, thats human nature. Jus the people involved should all be satisfied. My role is the paid bitch. as long as i am paid and your bitch dont bother me we good on my end. if you don't like pussy, the bitch is ugly, gained too much weight or you tired of her but too broke to leave her and pay me, get better cheating skillz

[SpoogeMonkey]

To Dark Passenger

You are a worm. You wanted a bit of cock action, you cheated so you don't clearly value your marriage or what you have. This whole blaming your cock is absolute bollocks (literally). You didnt have to, but you have no self respect or respect for your wife. Blaming urges or whatever is so fucking weak, but lets face it, your life is probably pretty boring, lowgrade job, closet homosexual, oppressed upbringing.

I hope she fucking cleans you out, you low life cunt. I reckon you should become someones bitch, it sounds like thats what you want. I think you should commit a felony, get your little ass into a cell with Big Dave, the ass raper and live out your time being fucked like the sissy wanker you are. Maybe grow your hair out, wear a dress.. thats what you want isnt it.. ISNT IT?

[MdR Dave]

To Dark Passenger

You are a worm. You wanted a bit of cock action, you cheated so you don't clearly value your marriage or what you have. This whole blaming your cock is absolute bollocks (literally). You didnt have to, but you have no self respect or respect for your wife. Blaming urges or whatever is so fucking weak, but lets face it, your life is probably pretty boring, lowgrade job, closet homosexual, oppressed upbringing.

I hope she fucking cleans you out, you low life cunt. I reckon you should become someones bitch, it sounds like thats what you want. I think you should commit a felony, get your little ass into a cell with Big Dave, the ass raper and live out your time being fucked like the sissy wanker you are. Maybe grow your hair out, wear a dress.. thats what you want isnt it.. ISNT IT?

Dude, this is so wrong. "Dave"s aren't ass rapers.

[top4bigbutt]

The guy is fucked up, I just feel sorry for the kids, if they have some
She is gonna be ok, and he will have all the dick he want

[giovanni_hotel]

Is it me, or does it sound beyond hypocritical on a board where many work full and part time as 'escorts' are constitutionally opposed to someone who was about to cheat on his wife with an ESCORT??

Some people around here are under the delusion they see a majority of single unattached men as clients.lol

Get off that high horse. THe altitude is making some of you lightheaded.

[BiBoyinBeantown]

You're right Jamie. Can't argue that. You make the bed you lay in

Was gonna say exactly that.

The only "right" way to do this is to negotiate an open relationship with your partner...and being discovered cheating is a shitty way to start the negotiations.

I am so lucky, my GG g/f and I have that kind of relationship...we just "play safe" outside the relationship (condoms for everything, including BJs) and it's all good...but we negotiated that nearly 20 years ago, going in.

As a practical matter, if you're going to have sex outside a monogamous relationship, you substantially change the risk exposure to STDs for yourself, and, by extension, your partner. You don't get to make that decision on behalf of someone else without their consent.

[Yvonne183]

Is it me, or does it sound beyond hypocritical on a board where many work full and part time as 'escorts' are constitutionally opposed to someone who was about to cheat on his wife with an ESCORT??

Some people around here are under the delusion they see a majority of single unattached men as clients.lol

Get off that high horse. THe altitude is making some of you lightheaded.

Ha ha ha, that was quite good what you wrote.

When I was young, most of the guys I met were married, some told me they had kids that were the same age as me.

[Odelay]

I dnt know what a troll is but fuck whoever dont know what im feelliig right now. And i never got caught fucking anybody. I was wrong definitely so thats on me and my personal issues are what I have to deal with. Thanks for the advice, helpful or not.

A troll is someone who joins a forum and within a couple of months is starting preposterous threads. Happy to clear that up for you.

[Odelay]

who here wants this dude's wife to clean this dude out in the divorce settlement?

LMAO! No further comment.

[onmyknees]

Is it me, or does it sound beyond hypocritical on a board where many work full and part time as 'escorts' are constitutionally opposed to someone who was about to cheat on his wife with an ESCORT??

Some people around here are under the delusion they see a majority of single unattached men as clients.lol

Get off that high horse. THe altitude is making some of you lightheaded.



:Bowdown::Bowdown:

Love these ladies one and all, ( for the most part) but they have a real bad blind spot on this subject. They would be wise to plead the 5th.

[TsVanessa69]

I wouldnt make the money i make if men didnt cheat. but sadly in life outside escorting dudes think that transexuals should be the side piece or be ok with the fact they have a female. so no i call truths. 99.9 percent of men who deal with ts on business or personal level are in some type of relationship with somebody. So I can accept that, cuz I removed the line between trick and friend. ANYBODY and everybody who steps into my bed pays first. so no love for a dude caught cheatin. Jus sorry for the girl who missed out on her money. Life is what it is. Money is your only friend. so if its not money in my pocket, i do not give a fuck about feelings nor do I have concern.

[EvonRose]

Is it me, or does it sound beyond hypocritical on a board where many work full and part time as 'escorts' are constitutionally opposed to someone who was about to cheat on his wife with an ESCORT??

Some people around here are under the delusion they see a majority of single unattached men as clients.lol

Get off that high horse. THe altitude is making some of you lightheaded.


I don't know who is married or who is single or who is in a relationship. If i have a client and he walks in the door i know nothing of his life, unless I'm psychic then that might change my perception. I don't ask my clients personal questions. My sugar daddies are all divorced or single. This is not about moral superiority, it's just a fact he cheated on her theres no if or but around it, he has to face hat comes to him. If I was married and my husband cheated this way i would leave too, I think it's exciting to play with fire but sometimes you can get burned. I have the right to be free and spirited I have no commitment, It would be different if i was married or maybe even in a serious cahoots...

[RallyCola]

the provider is under no obligation to turn away clients who have cash in hand whether they are married or not. it is not their fault a dude decided to cheat. that's like blaming the pepsi delivery guy or Apoo at the 7-11 for a guy buying a coke after a lifetime of pepsi-luv.

when any man decides to cheat on his wife, whether with a tranny escort or his secretary, and his wife finds out...how can he be the victim. if you are not satisfied with your life with your wife, leave the bitch then play the field. to do it the other way is just selfish and arrogant.

[giovanni_hotel]

No one said he was a victim. He' just going through rough times, the worst kind. Self-inflicted.

Sure providers are under no obligation not to see married men, but don't get all self-righteous after the fact when I guy's world falls apart because his wife found out.

It's like a crack dealer spitting on a crackhead for being an addict.
There's no demand without supply.

[RallyCola]

lol...blame the suppliers. i guess that is the american way.

[buttslinger]

All happy families are the same.
All unhappy families are different.
I wish that I had had the wife, the kids, the career, the house....but you don't get that stuff by wishing.I made my bed and I sleep in it.
Head down to the bar and meet your new family

[Jamie French]

@giovani: This is literally my backpage ad, copied and pasted. We aren't all hypocrites.

Hi there - This is Jamie (Yes, the REAL Jamie from the Jamie's Fetish website!) in Arlington.
Discrete, professional service.
Submissive.
5'9. - 32 yrs/old. - Thin. - incall & outcall
No married men please. I'll continue to offer awesome service so long as nobody is getting hurt by proxy. Thanks.
*please give at least two hours advance notice, Thanks!*
North Arlington (Cooper and Greenoaks)
You can reach me through email for more details.
Poster's age: 32
• Location: Dallas, Mid Cities, Arlington, TX.

• User first posted February 2010

• Post ID: 9873806 dallas


Is it me, or does it sound beyond hypocritical on a board where many work full and part time as 'escorts' are constitutionally opposed to someone who was about to cheat on his wife with an ESCORT??

Some people around here are under the delusion they see a majority of single unattached men as clients.lol

Get off that high horse. THe altitude is making some of you lightheaded.

[fred41]

I can't get passed the tie-in of : his wife must've known he was into something like that because he liked to wear her underwear.

I love transsexuals,...duh-h-h...I wouldn't be here otherwise would I?
But I never had the urge to wear women's underwear.
Not saying there's anything wrong with that..
...just...you know...saying.

[BBaggins06]

I dnt know what a troll is

Anybody who says that most definitely is one ...

[Dark passenger]

I really wasn't going to to reply on this anymore, but due to the ridiculous bullshit ive read, i must say a few things.
First thing is I see a bunch of skeptical, bitter people making up things not based on facts. I never once said i cheated. I got caught being interested in meeting with an escort. Thats not the problem that i may have cheated if given things worked, but it was who i was lookin to be with. If it were a gg it wouldnt have been this bad. Since she was a tg, shit hit the fan bad. Im not going to explain my relationship, i came here for advice. So as far as everyone talkn and adding two cents on that can shut the fuck up cause your commenting on what you wish to be the reason i posted, not the facts.
Two, i never asked for ways to get her to forgive me, comfort or to justify what i was going to do. I was wrong. Its not something i just figured out i wanted. Ive been with escorts but that was before we were married. Ive missed it but ive been faithful.
Then this person posted im a troll because i havent had enough member time vs posts, well two words. Fuck you. Thats absurd. Sorry i didnt comment enough before having this problem but thats nothing i can help. This situations real as fuck so fuck what you believe.
And what is the one girl feeling sorry for an escort who wasnt paid? Why i got caught emailing her to see ger in town availability. So there goes another made up thing to judge on.
So what ya i wore her underwear. She didnt see it as kinky, instead she laughed.
Last all i asked for was a way to make her understand theres a lot more to me liking shemales than me being a perverted fag, as she says. I figured people here would at least understand where i came from on that note. I guess not. Thats whats really got me. The embarrassment and things she said from not understanding.

[Jamie French]

Shouldn't have brought your problems to what is essentially a porn board. If you can pony up for a hooker you can crack the ol' wallet for a professional councilor. You'll find real quick that ordering people on this board to shut the fuck up is going to get you exactly the opposite reaction you desire... best advice at this point is to take your problems else where. We are unsympathetic, unimpressed and just waiting to pounce on whatever you say next. Heed my warning - Just walk away.



I really wasn't going to to reply on this anymore, but due to the ridiculous bullshit ive read, i must say a few things.
First thing is I see a bunch of skeptical, bitter people making up things not based on facts. I never once said i cheated. I got caught being interested in meeting with an escort. Thats not the problem that i may have cheated if given things worked, but it was who i was lookin to be with. If it were a gg it wouldnt have been this bad. Since she was a tg, shit hit the fan bad. Im not going to explain my relationship, i came here for advice. So as far as everyone talkn and adding two cents on that can shut the fuck up cause your commenting on what you wish to be the reason i posted, not the facts.
Two, i never asked for ways to get her to forgive me, comfort or to justify what i was going to do. I was wrong. Its not something i just figured out i wanted. Ive been with escorts but that was before we were married. Ive missed it but ive been faithful.
Then this person posted im a troll because i havent had enough member time vs posts, well two words. Fuck you. Thats absurd. Sorry i didnt comment enough before having this problem but thats nothing i can help. This situations real as fuck so fuck what you believe.
And what is the one girl feeling sorry for an escort who wasnt paid? Why i got caught emailing her to see ger in town availability. So there goes another made up thing to judge on.
So what ya i wore her underwear. She didnt see it as kinky, instead she laughed.
Last all i asked for was a way to make her understand theres a lot more to me liking shemales than me being a perverted fag, as she says. I figured people here would at least understand where i came from on that note. I guess not. Thats whats really got me. The embarrassment and things she said from not understanding.

[EvonRose]

I really wasn't going to to reply on this anymore, but due to the ridiculous bullshit ive read, i must say a few things.
First thing is I see a bunch of skeptical, bitter people making up things not based on facts. I never once said i cheated. I got caught being interested in meeting with an escort. Thats not the problem that i may have cheated if given things worked, but it was who i was lookin to be with. If it were a gg it wouldnt have been this bad. Since she was a tg, shit hit the fan bad. Im not going to explain my relationship, i came here for advice. So as far as everyone talkn and adding two cents on that can shut the fuck up cause your commenting on what you wish to be the reason i posted, not the facts.
Two, i never asked for ways to get her to forgive me, comfort or to justify what i was going to do. I was wrong. Its not something i just figured out i wanted. Ive been with escorts but that was before we were married. Ive missed it but ive been faithful.
Then this person posted im a troll because i havent had enough member time vs posts, well two words. Fuck you. Thats absurd. Sorry i didnt comment enough before having this problem but thats nothing i can help. This situations real as fuck so fuck what you believe.
And what is the one girl feeling sorry for an escort who wasnt paid? Why i got caught emailing her to see ger in town availability. So there goes another made up thing to judge on.
So what ya i wore her underwear. She didnt see it as kinky, instead she laughed.
Last all i asked for was a way to make her understand theres a lot more to me liking shemales than me being a perverted fag, as she says. I figured people here would at least understand where i came from on that note. I guess not. Thats whats really got me. The embarrassment and things she said from not understanding.

Well I'm sorry for that, and i understand now, Maybe you should have talked rather than think of acting. Either way she had to find out, this is something hidden within and if forced down it usually comes back up stronger.... Good luck and don't listen to the harsh words not everyone here is cold...

[smartsense]

I hate to be captain hindsight but, if you had told her you've fantasized about sharing a t-girl things possibly could have went different.

Also, with the whole cheating thing i'll just say this my gf has caught me looking at other girls asses but it's not cheating.

Lastly, this is the only point i want to make. If i were in your shoes i would have went to a forum with ggs that have been married and cheated on instead of this place.

[Yvonne183]

Well I'm sorry for that, and i understand now, Maybe you should have talked rather than think of acting. Either way she had to find out, this is something hidden within and if forced down it usually comes back up stronger.... Good luck and don't listen to the harsh words not everyone here is cold...

I agree with what Evon said.

Ya just got to filter out the posts that reach out to you and forget the others, this forum is like that. Some people will understand others won't, just like any other place you might go to

I don't have any good advise other than to say again hope things get better for you.

[Dark passenger]

Honestly like i said i was just looking to go n talk somewhere there were people who understood my feelings about tg's. Im not an asshole im just a guy whos having woman problems about a very different type of problem.

[Jamie French]

Infidelity is not a very different type of problem.


Honestly like i said i was just looking to go n talk somewhere there were people who understood my feelings about tg's. Im not an asshole im just a guy whos having woman problems about a very different type of problem.

[Dark passenger]

Its not my motive its who it was with. After all it didnt come down to me doing anything it was the feelings she haswas about it and her being appalled. To her a tg is just a man.

[Jamie French]

So? Why are you telling us...? Sounds like you have lawyers to call. You're obviously too far gone cause you're freakin' HERE instead of handling your business. Hope she gets the house.

[Yvonne183]

I kinda understand what the OP is trying to say. If he was caught with gg porn or something to do with GGs then the wife wouldn't be as harsh as she would if it involved a tgirl. Somehow messing with anything to do with a tgirl would be worse than messing with things being gg. Why the double standard, maybe that is what he's tying to say, i could be wrong cause I am like that, i get things wrong many times.

[Dark passenger]

Just bitter. How sad.

[Dark passenger]

Yvonne thats just whst ive been trying to deal with all along. Its only different cause she doesnt understand the tg issue. But actually shes a bit more than impulsive. Shes explodes without thinking twice about it. Shes actually been texting me a little bit. I think its just going to take time but ill find someway to make her understand. Im not sure how but i will.

[Jamie French]

Still here eh? At the tranny porn forum? Facing a divorce for fuckin' round with a tranny? She definitely picked a winner.


Just bitter. How sad.

[Dark passenger]

I never said i didnt like trannys, or i was going to leave them alone. Just want her to understand. Besides shes been at her sisters n im here with nothing to do why wouldnt i be here. If u dont like it, i dont know what to tell u.

[Jamie French]

If I don't like it? You give yourself far too much credit. I don't care. If anything I'd love her to find her way to this board just to see shit blow all the way the fuck up!
Folks like ya'll are just entertainment. You're not even real. You don't count. You fuck up royal and bring it here like a true putz. You get whatever you have coming to you.


I never said i didnt like trannys, or i was going to leave them alone. Just want her to understand. Besides shes been at her sisters n im here with nothing to do why wouldnt i be here. If u dont like it, i dont know what to tell u.

[tsdvdman]

So? Why are you telling us...? Sounds like you have lawyers to call. You're obviously too far gone cause you're freakin' HERE instead of handling your business. Hope she gets the house.
You are sounding like some POS bitter person who got "fucked" by a married dude before who promised you he's leave the wife and kids to be with your whoring escorting skanky (half-a) ts ass. The man is only here expressing ..why are you on such a "false" high horse.
Aren't you the one who is supposedly in love recently? If so..you should have other things to pay more attention to than this stuff and taking it so personal. You seem a lot more angrier since the big announcement..lol

[Jamie French]

Feelings hurt? You sound mad. Sounds like a pretty good fantasy though... I'll have to script it out and pornify it. Thanx!


You are sounding like some POS bitter person who got "fucked" by a married dude before who promised you he's leave the wife and kids to be with your whoring escorting skanky (half-a) ts ass. The man is only here expressing ..why are you on such a "false" high horse.
Aren't you the one who is supposedly in love recently? If so..you should have other things to pay more attention to than this stuff and taking it so personal. You seem a lot more angrier since the big announcement..lol

[NYLiveli]

You are sounding like some POS bitter person who got "fucked" by a married dude before who promised you he's leave the wife and kids to be with your whoring escorting skanky (half-a) ts ass. The man is only here expressing ..why are you on such a "false" high horse.
Aren't you the one who is supposedly in love recently? If so..you should have other things to pay more attention to than this stuff and taking it so personal. You seem a lot more angrier since the big announcement..lol

Holy shit, dam, dam, dam. TS Escort :fuckin: with a big chip on her shoulder. I bet a years salary that she has fucked, been fucked, sucked:salad, and been sucked by many a married man to make a living. Who is she kidding.

[Jamie French]

You should go a few posts back and read my ad. Posted it for responses just like yours. You're welcome.


Holy shit, dam, dam, dam. TS Escort :fuckin: with a big chip on her shoulder. I bet a years salary that she has fucked, been fucked, sucked:salad, and been sucked by many a married man to make a living. How is she kidding.

[EvonRose]

people are entitled to fuck up in life, he just needs to get up and dust it off and move on.

Hey babe to reply about the porn thing, it really wouldn't matter wether it was ts or gg porn I doubt thats the issue. She caught you looking at ts escorts, it raises her suspicion wether you see her or not, it would be the same reaction if she saw you with a gg escort, she's afraid you cheated or are going to cheat.

Porn is not looking up escorts, huuuuuuge difference.... but good luck and don't listen to the harsh word here.

[SunshyneMonroe]

Ok sooo hookers are reading johns....wow...

[giovanni_hotel]

And can we stop calling HA 'just a porn board'??
Yeah it's about tgirls posting naked pics and fucking/sucking, escorts, parties, appearances, etc. But there are PEOPLE here too.

What you do doesn't totally define WHO you are. I'd def like to fuck the shit out of most of the TGs here, but I also enjoy conversing with many ladies here because of their...get ready for the cliche....MINDS.lol

THere literally is no place that I know of on the interwebz where you can talk to more than one person from both a man's and TG's perspective who can offer a relevant opinion on this dilemma.

This isn't a topic you bring up at the weekly staff meeting or between showers in the lockerroom.

'Just a porn board' IMO is what someone says when shit gets too real around here.

[SunshyneMonroe]

And can we stop calling HA 'just a porn board'??
Yeah it's about tgirls posting naked pics and fucking/sucking, escorts, parties, appearances, etc. But there are PEOPLE here too.

What you do doesn't totally define WHO you are. I'd def like to fuck the shit out of most of the TGs here, but I also enjoy conversing with many ladies here because of their...get ready for the cliche....MINDS.lol

THere literally is no place that I know of on the interwebz where you can talk to more than one person from both a man's and TG's perspective who can offer a relevant opinion on this dilemma.

This isn't a topic you bring up at the weekly staff meeting or between showers in the lockerroom.

'Just a porn board' IMO is what someone says when shit gets too real around here.

Sweetheart the issue is that this IS just a porn board it should not get that deep you wanna cry go watch lifetime :)

[RallyCola]

Sweetheart the issue is that this IS just a porn board it should not get that deep you wanna cry go watch lifetime :)

lol @ lifetime.

without porn, this board would not exist.

[tsdvdman]

Sweetheart the issue is that this IS just a porn board it should not get that deep you wanna cry go watch lifetime :)
Excactly...that's why I also say somebody like this half TV half whatever sitting on a soapbox about married men is fuckin ridiculous. Take that false hypocritical bullshit somewhere else

[giovanni_hotel]

Sweetheart the issue is that this IS just a porn board it should not get that deep you wanna cry go watch lifetime :)


Is HA 'meaningful'?? Probably not in the way most people use the term. There are real people here, but it's not IRL, for the most part.
HA is whatever the level of participation is on a given subject.

I'll remember how fake this shit is the next time someone starts a thread about the latest TG who gets her throat slashed by a john, or overdoses on a bottle of pills because her 'real life' got too fucking real.

Some of you ladies are so fucking shallow and self-centered 24/7, nothing in your lives means shit except for your worship of the superficial.

Less talk from you hon. Just keep posting pictures.:ignore:

[buttslinger]

When I was twenty my Dad payed for some tests to see what kind of job I'd be good at. My Imagination tested at 99%!!!!!
I used to have an external hard drive full of pics of trannys, YOUNG girls, grannys, animals, murdered women, personal pics, photoshop art I did.
then came a very scary night in the emergency room
When I got home I trashed that hard drive. I didn't want my family to find it after I'm dead. I really loved that hard drive and spent alot of time with it. Imagination is real to me. But all unhealthy obsessions end badly.

PS- I kept all my downloaded music.

[RallyCola]

When I was twenty my Dad payed for some tests to see what kind of job I'd be good at. My Imagination tested at 99%!!!!!
I used to have an external hard drive full of pics of trannys, YOUNG girls, grannys, animals, murdered women, personal pics, photoshop art I did.
then came a very scary night in the emergency room
When I got home I trashed that hard drive. I didn't want my family to find it after I'm dead. I really loved that hard drive and spent alot of time with it. Imagination is real to me. But all unhealthy obsessions end badly.

PS- I kept all my downloaded music.

why did you hilight young girls....do you want to be labeled a pedophile?

more importantly...if you are so ashamed of your likes and preferences that you are afraid of what will happen if your mom or wife finds out...the problem is with you, not them.

[buttslinger]

why did you hilight young girls....do you want to be labeled a pedophile?

more importantly...if you are so ashamed of your likes and preferences that you are afraid of what will happen if your BROTHER finds out...the problem is with you, not them.

If a being a pedophile means you have YOUNG pics of girls on your computer, then I'm not a pedophile anymore! Hallelujah!!!

Of course the problem is with me! The only sins that exist in this life are mine!

[SunshyneMonroe]

And can we stop calling HA 'just a porn board'??
Yeah it's about tgirls posting naked pics and fucking/sucking, escorts, parties, appearances, etc. But there are PEOPLE here too.

What you do doesn't totally define WHO you are. I'd def like to fuck the shit out of most of the TGs here, but I also enjoy conversing with many ladies here because of their...get ready for the cliche....MINDS.lol

THere literally is no place that I know of on the interwebz where you can talk to more than one person from both a man's and TG's perspective who can offer a relevant opinion on this dilemma.

This isn't a topic you bring up at the weekly staff meeting or between showers in the lockerroom.

'Just a porn board' IMO is what someone says when shit gets too real around here.


Is HA 'meaningful'?? Probably not in the way most people use the term. There are real people here, but it's not IRL, for the most part.
HA is whatever the level of participation is on a given subject.

I'll remember how fake this shit is the next time someone starts a thread about the latest TG who gets her throat slashed by a john, or overdoses on a bottle of pills because her 'real life' got too fucking real.

Some of you ladies are so fucking shallow and self-centered 24/7, nothing in your lives means shit except for your worship of the superficial.

Less talk from you hon. Just keep posting pictures.:ignore:
Yes post a pic what this is meant for now go watch good times or something

[buttslinger]

When Janet Leigh broke a trust and stole that money she started down a road she hadn't planned on. She thought she could get out, you can never get out. By the time she figured out what she had done, it was too late. If this guy is legit about being caught cheating on his wife, he gets no sympathy from me because he cheated with a TS. He should have married a swinger, or something. He violated a trust.
Now, does the punishment fit the crime? HELL NO!! Life sucks, then you die.

[Dark passenger]

U must not be able to read

[BBaggins06]

I really wasn't going to to reply on this anymore, but due to the ridiculous bullshit ive read, i must say a few things.
First thing is I see a bunch of skeptical, bitter people making up things not based on facts. I never once said i cheated. I got caught being interested in meeting with an escort. Thats not the problem that i may have cheated if given things worked, but it was who i was lookin to be with. If it were a gg it wouldnt have been this bad. Since she was a tg, shit hit the fan bad. Im not going to explain my relationship, i came here for advice. So as far as everyone talkn and adding two cents on that can shut the fuck up cause your commenting on what you wish to be the reason i posted, not the facts.
Two, i never asked for ways to get her to forgive me, comfort or to justify what i was going to do. I was wrong. Its not something i just figured out i wanted. Ive been with escorts but that was before we were married. Ive missed it but ive been faithful.
Then this person posted im a troll because i havent had enough member time vs posts, well two words. Fuck you. Thats absurd. Sorry i didnt comment enough before having this problem but thats nothing i can help. This situations real as fuck so fuck what you believe.
And what is the one girl feeling sorry for an escort who wasnt paid? Why i got caught emailing her to see ger in town availability. So there goes another made up thing to judge on.
So what ya i wore her underwear. She didnt see it as kinky, instead she laughed.
Last all i asked for was a way to make her understand theres a lot more to me liking shemales than me being a perverted fag, as she says. I figured people here would at least understand where i came from on that note. I guess not. Thats whats really got me. The embarrassment and things she said from not understanding.

Cool story, bro.

[KittyPride]

Sweetheart the issue is that this IS just a porn board it should not get that deep you wanna cry go watch lifetime :)

the only thing that interests you and brings you here is money, we know that ;)

But others might want to have a conversation with "like-minded" people.

[KittyPride]

Is HA 'meaningful'?? Probably not in the way most people use the term. There are real people here, but it's not IRL, for the most part.
HA is whatever the level of participation is on a given subject.

I'll remember how fake this shit is the next time someone starts a thread about the latest TG who gets her throat slashed by a john, or overdoses on a bottle of pills because her 'real life' got too fucking real.

Some of you ladies are so fucking shallow and self-centered 24/7, nothing in your lives means shit except for your worship of the superficial.

Less talk from you hon. Just keep posting pictures.:ignore:

Wow you were actually able to notice that? I thought you had air for brains lol

[KittyPride]

people are entitled to fuck up in life, he just needs to get up and dust it off and move on.

Hey babe to reply about the porn thing, it really wouldn't matter wether it was ts or gg porn I doubt thats the issue. She caught you looking at ts escorts, it raises her suspicion wether you see her or not, it would be the same reaction if she saw you with a gg escort, she's afraid you cheated or are going to cheat.

Porn is not looking up escorts, huuuuuuge difference.... but good luck and don't listen to the harsh word here.

Oh my god!!!!!!

OF COURSE it has to do with him being into Tgirls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How on earth is a GG going to compete with that?????

[KittyPride]

If your woman needs to be 'romanced' and connected with 'emotionally' to get her in the mood, IMO she's using her pussy as a weapon of mass destruction.

What A fucking loser you are!!! no wonder you stick with TV/TS

[onmyknees]

What A fucking loser you are!!! no wonder you stick with TV/TS

Just askin'........what the hell would you know about women holding dudes hostage and using the pussy as a means to an end ?

[Ben]

Damn my wife found out im all into shemales n she aint the understanding type. She totally flipped n is leaving. Questions arrive n she aint ready for the truth! Any ideas what i should do?

I remember opening up to a woman I liked. I told her that I'm into T-Girls. She said, "You're gay." I told her, "No." And she said, "You're in denial."
I just think most people assume/think that guys who are into T-Girls are gay.... I mean, have they, say, conducted any polls/surveys???????
Anyway, I just think that's the commonly held belief.
So, a woman will not want to be in a long-term relationship if she thinks her husband or boyfriend is gay.

[EvonRose]

Oh my god!!!!!!

OF COURSE it has to do with him being into Tgirls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How on earth is a GG going to compete with that?????

You don't read, that's why you never really get things....

I said wether it is a ts or gg, it was not porn he looked at he as looking up escorts... If i was her, I would be ok with my husband looking at porn, but escorts? I am just saying... There is a difference... But he made a mistake and he is facing the consequences, who are we to beat a dead horse.

[buttslinger]

U must not be able to read

You're right I didn't read all 13 pages, and yes, I was goofing on you.
If I knew you and your wife I could maybe give you advice, maybe if you posted a pic of your wife I could get an idea of what's going on. Maybe you should ask your wife to come on here for some group therapy. Probably you wouldn't want my advice. You take advice from strangers on something so personal as a marriage? If you live in NYC, this could be a bad weekend. If you live in Mayberry, your life is over.
So let me get serious, don't you have any FRIENDS to talk to? That know both of you. That would be my advice, get friends to act as arbiters or referees, that you've both let your hair down with, and talk it out. It's real possible friends have a perspective on things neither of you have right now. Most marriages don't end in 5 minutes over something like this. There's more to this story than even you know, I guarantee.
This is a finite problem, I know it doesn't sound like it now, but it will end one way or the other.

[KittyPride]

You don't read, that's why you never really get things....

I said wether it is a ts or gg, it was not porn he looked at he as looking up escorts... If i was her, I would be ok with my husband looking at porn, but escorts? I am just saying... There is a difference... But he made a mistake and he is facing the consequences, who are we to beat a dead horse.

My fault.. sorry.

[KittyPride]

Just askin'........what the hell would you know about women holding dudes hostage and using the pussy as a means to an end ?

And you ask this because you asume I am not a woman right, "just asking.."
A lot of you guys here are both disrespectfull to Tgirls AND woman. And what's even worse, a lot of guys here are really stupid...except perhaps for one or two older gay queens who like to bttm to anything that comes along...

So for your information then:

1) I am a woman, I was born a woman only my body developed an opposite way in the womb because of hormone inbalance.
2) My hormone levels are artificial but exactly the same as the hormone levels of GG's.
3) There are woman that like sex, and there are those that only like sex for making babies and there are those that dont like sex at all.
4) I am a woman that likes sex
5) If I were to sleep with anyone, I need to be romanced and connected with my BF AND be emotionally in the mood. There is no blackmail going on... this is the way it works.
6) It has nothing to do with your genitals, its the chemistry of the brain. Woman need more time to get into the mood, and the relationship has to be good and fullfilling.
7) Obviously you two stick with TV/TS escorts because you dont know how to treat and please woman.
8) And you dont know how to treat Tgirls either..

[Mike11]

The computer. I got a different email n i was setting up a date with an escort n forgot to log out.

The exact same thing happened to me. I said I was curious and was just amusing myself.

[pimpdog]

This is why when I get married, it will be the right girl, and cheating wont even be a possiblity.

[fred41]

If you are young and there are no children involved, then the best thing is to move on. That way the lady in question can seek out a man that is right for her...one that won't cheat on her...and you can move on to whatever fits your lifestyle best.
Everyone winds up happy or , at the very least, has a chance to find happiness.

[EvonRose]

And you ask this because you asume I am not a woman right, "just asking.."
A lot of you guys here are both disrespectfull to Tgirls AND woman. And what's even worse, a lot of guys here are really stupid...except perhaps for one or two older gay queens who like to bttm to anything that comes along...

So for your information then:

1) I am a woman, I was born a woman only my body developed an opposite way in the womb because of hormone inbalance.
2) My hormone levels are artificial but exactly the same as the hormone levels of GG's.
3) There are woman that like sex, and there are those that only like sex for making babies and there are those that dont like sex at all.
4) I am a woman that likes sex
5) If I were to sleep with anyone, I need to be romanced and connected with my BF AND be emotionally in the mood. There is no blackmail going on... this is the way it works.
6) It has nothing to do with your genitals, its the chemistry of the brain. Woman need more time to get into the mood, and the relationship has to be good and fullfilling.
7) Obviously you two stick with TV/TS escorts because you dont know how to treat and please woman.
8) And you dont know how to treat Tgirls either..


I agree.... On my knees she does make alot of sense. Out of the porn world, and the sex fantasy this is the truth, if women have any self respect would want to be treated like a lady, and romanced, it has nothing to do with blackmail. I doubt any man would want to be with a sexually active girl seriously... I don't know any man who really looks at a nympho anything serious its for fun for sure. And I think to be a real true gentleman you should want to romance a woman and court her, sometimes in marriages men stop that and women stop sex... Keep your commitment alive by taking responsibility seriously and stop taking her for granted!

[Tyler___Durden]

What about the escort in this sorry tale?
It's a bit like those news stories where a man jumps into the sea to save a dog and drowns.
They never say if the dog was ok.



I never once said i cheated.
I got caught being interested in meeting with an escort.
Thats not the problem that i may have cheated if given things worked, but it was who i was lookin to be with

After all it didnt come down to me doing anything it was the feelings she haswas about it and her being appalled. To her a tg is just a man.



So let me get this straight (ahem)
You contacted an escort to discuss their services and availability.
But you were unsure about meeting her.
You were happy to waste her time by phoning and talking with her, but not booking her.
It is wrong to contact any escort, ever, and not go see them, unless the call reveals:
1. their prices
2. services or
3. availability
do not tie up with your requirements.
Any other call is a man ringing an escort to get their (free) kicks at her expense
That should carry a mandatory death sentence!
You sir are a timewaster and evil beyond belief.


(To make amends, contact the escort and give her a big bag of money by way of apology before your wife understandably takes you to the cleaners)

[Tyler___Durden]

best advice at this point is to take your problems else where. We are unsympathetic, unimpressed and just waiting to pounce on whatever you say next. Heed my warning - Just walk away.
Hush you.
Don't ruin a great thread!

[Tyler___Durden]

I think its just going to take time but ill find someway to make her understand. Im not sure how but i will.
In all seriousness the big deal for your wife is the penis.
That is the one thing she will feel she (obviously) can't compete with.
And that brings insecurities.

Stop writing about this on a tranny escort board,
coz this will just confirm to her that leaving you is the right thing to do.

If you both want to save things, go to joint counselling.

[giovanni_hotel]

I agree.... On my knees she does make alot of sense. Out of the porn world, and the sex fantasy this is the truth, if women have any self respect would want to be treated like a lady, and romanced, it has nothing to do with blackmail. I doubt any man would want to be with a sexually active girl seriously... I don't know any man who really looks at a nympho anything serious its for fun for sure. And I think to be a real true gentleman you should want to romance a woman and court her, sometimes in marriages men stop that and women stop sex... Keep your commitment alive by taking responsibility seriously and stop taking her for granted!

If a husband has to find his wife's MOTIVATION to have sex, ALL THE TIME, his wife is a first class bitch.

A man shouldn't have to tap dance, serenade and have permanent reservations at a five star restaurant to get pussy from his WIFE.

Not saying this is happening is this case, but let's not assume in every relationship the woman is a helpless victim of the whim's of some random cruel, insensitive man.

KittyPride is being knee jerk, I was giving an example to add context to possibly why this dude was seeking sexual gratification outside his marriage.

More than a few women use pussy to get that ring, then shut it down once the vows are exchanged.

[Tyler___Durden]

Holy shit, dam, dam, dam. TS Escort :fuckin: with a big chip on her shoulder. I bet a years salary that she has fucked, been fucked, sucked:salad, and been sucked by many a married man to make a living. Who is she kidding.

You should go a few posts back and read my ad. Posted it for responses just like yours. You're welcome.

@giovani: This is literally my backpage ad, copied and pasted. We aren't all hypocrites.

Hi there - This is Jamie (Yes, the REAL Jamie from the Jamie's Fetish website!) in Arlington.
Discrete, professional service.
Submissive.
5'9. - 32 yrs/old. - Thin. - incall & outcall
[I]No married men please. I'll continue to offer awesome service so long as nobody is getting hurt by proxy. Thanks.


Reality check for Jamie and her 'Disclaimer'.
Here's part of mine:

Disclaimer
Ok lets see if we can get on the same page with this one.

Pay-sex is illegal in most of the USA. So every escort website in the USA has a disclaimer, which will say something along the lines of: “You are paying for my time and company only. If anything else happens it’s my decision and is not a purchasable service.”
This faux legalese is in theory there to protect Escorts from law enforcement entrapment. Of course no one is fooled by this semantic game. If the cops over there read such a disclaimer, they certainly are not fooled.
Indeed, I'm sure that the spouses of clients aren't either.
It's mainly put up to give USA escorts defence attorney something to
use when negotiating down the charges.

Jamie's married-men disclaimer does not stop married men hiring her.
All it does is absolves her conscience. Fact.

[Tyler___Durden]

Excactly...that's why I also say somebody like this half TV half whatever sitting on a soapbox about married men is fuckin ridiculous. Take that false hypocritical bullshit somewhere else
The term is "Early transitioner"
It takes time.
IMO tsdvdman this post is out of order and it would be nice if you man up & apologise to her

[Tyler___Durden]

But he made a mistake and he is facing the consequences, who are we to beat a dead horse.
Ooops!
I first read that as:
"who are we to fuck a dead horse."

[KittyPride]

I agree.... On my knees she does make alot of sense. Out of the porn world, and the sex fantasy this is the truth, if women have any self respect would want to be treated like a lady, and romanced, it has nothing to do with blackmail. I doubt any man would want to be with a sexually active girl seriously... I don't know any man who really looks at a nympho anything serious its for fun for sure. And I think to be a real true gentleman you should want to romance a woman and court her, sometimes in marriages men stop that and women stop sex... Keep your commitment alive by taking responsibility seriously and stop taking her for granted!


Thats right!

[tsdvdman]

The term is "Early transitioner"
It takes time.
IMO tsdvdman this post is out of order and it would be nice if you man up & apologise to her
Lol..OK..but don't hold your breath

[Jamie French]

I never said it was anything other than that. Tell you this much... dudes still ask if I'll see them regardless of my disclaimer... as if they get off on the cheating and WANT me to know.

You didn't figure your me out or anything... my disclaimer puts the onus on them if they lie about being married - that's all it can do. I'm at a point where I'm not taking a whole lot of new clients anyhow... I got 4 or 5 long term regulars (all single) from way back that help keep the lights on... outside that, I haven't time for many other clients.


Reality check for Jamie and her 'Disclaimer'.
Here's part of mine:

Disclaimer
Ok lets see if we can get on the same page with this one.

Pay-sex is illegal in most of the USA. So every escort website in the USA has a disclaimer, which will say something along the lines of: “You are paying for my time and company only. If anything else happens it’s my decision and is not a purchasable service.”
This faux legalese is in theory there to protect Escorts from law enforcement entrapment. Of course no one is fooled by this semantic game. If the cops over there read such a disclaimer, they certainly are not fooled.
Indeed, I'm sure that the spouses of clients aren't either.
It's mainly put up to give USA escorts defence attorney something to
use when negotiating down the charges.

Jamie's married-men disclaimer does not stop married men hiring her.
All it does is absolves her conscience. Fact.

[Dark passenger]

Tyler, i didnt call the escort to get any kicks or anything. I m in Virginia, she was coming to D.C. Her add suggested to book asap because she was just visiting for a limited time. If i knew how i would attach the email so you could see what i asked. I was if she was available a day and time and if not when was the best time she was free around the time and day in question.

[Dark passenger]

Buttslinger, i came here and posted to get advice because before things blew up i kept my personal business to myself. Friends of mine would never understand or be down with the idea of a penis being in any part of the equasion. I wish i had a friend to talk about these things to and share and swap information about different beauties. I could imagine the look n reactions i would get if i were to say, damn shes fine, id love to give her head til she exploded in my mouth. And im making headway with the wife, i guess she settling down a little bit so we'll see what happens.

[RallyCola]

Buttslinger, i came here and posted to get advice because before things blew up i kept my personal business to myself. Friends of mine would never understand or be down with the idea of a penis being in any part of the equasion. I wish i had a friend to talk about these things to and share and swap information about different beauties. I could imagine the look n reactions i would get if i were to say, damn shes fine, id love to give her head til she exploded in my mouth. And im making headway with the wife, i guess she settling down a little bit so we'll see what happens.

well, your post begets the question...how are you making headway...is she accepting that you like tgirls or have you convinced her that it was a momentary lapse of fidelity, or something else entirely?

[Dark passenger]

Well RC at first she wouldnt answer my calls and when i called her sisters for her i was hung up on or told she didnt want to talk to me. Then she started texting me a little bit with really hostile messages. When i tried to tell her she was over reacting i kept getting texts that were like REALLY A MAN, UR INTO DUDES, and things like that. I cant go into all the texts because id be here all day. I told her she wasnt a man and we needed to talk. I think shes going to let me try and explain myself sometime today so maybe ill get a chance to get some explaining in. Im no where out of the woods but im making some progress.

[chromeheart44m]

good luck dudefuck the h8rs on here i been thru it if u need 2 tlk holla:yayo:

[Icanthelpmyself]

Dark Passenger my heart goes out to you knowing the physcial attraction to these she devil we have make it hard for us to lead life. The one advice I can give it live it one day at a time enjoy ehat you can. I personally look for those times when I can have a few hour to enjoy my videos and look on the net for new girls. Need some one to talk hit me up.

[Tyler___Durden]

I never said it was anything other than that. Tell you this much... dudes still ask if I'll see them regardless of my disclaimer... as if they get off on the cheating and WANT me to know.

You didn't figure your me out or anything... my disclaimer puts the onus on them if they lie about being married - that's all it can do.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/Nexxo00/Denial.jpg

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[Dark passenger]

Thanks guys. I just really wish i had friends that were into tg's. I tried to see if a few of my homeboys would be into them like when seeing an add in the back of a porn mag saying things like damn id fuck around n hit that referring to to 1900 ts adds. All of them said shit like ill kill someone if i thought they was a girl n whipped out a dick. I always try to see if theyre just saying shit like that because they thought i would or what. Im sure they know now but everyone acts lkke they dont know why she left.

[EvonRose]

Judging from how many for the men here are thinking they are either divorced, going to get divorced, or never going to get married and wank off dying as an old man.

Regardless, of the situation they are two sides to every story, but there is a chain reaction, he wanted to contact an escort because we can assume she wasn't giving him sex, but we have to ask why she was not giving him sex? so there is room for questions, sometimes communication is a big issue, and maybe they had their faults. But you cannot make this the woman's fault. You can never make a man happy sexually they are always going to be thinking about it everyday, with every hot girls they see, it's self control and many lack that... unfortunately. She needs to just get an open mind, and he just better damn explain himself really well.

However, if you do go back to her and she takes you back, you need to give up ts for good, if you don't your going to end up cheating again, with physical this time. Or you should make the decision to not be married so you may find that option... I don't think your ready for this marriage.

[Dark passenger]

Well whatever i do i just feel awful for it being discovered this way. I know im just going to be truthful and hope she uderstands. I was into ts before we ever met, and its not just something i can make myself not the like anymore. Theyre so just beautiful anddate intriguing. But thanks for the advice Evon.

[buttslinger]

Here in Virginia the cherry blossoms are about to pop, it's eighty degrees and gorgeous! The girls are in their spring clothes. Your wife doesn't want you to leave. She just wants to know you love her. Chicks are funny that way.

[Jamie French]

What is it exactly that you think I'm in denial about again? You aren't making any sense.
I have a disclaimer that says "no married men". Where does the denial fit in? I can PROVE that my ad says "no married men"... so what's your gripe all about?

How can I possibly be in denial about the words that are literally on my ad? THEY ARE ACTUALLY THERE FOR ALL TO READ. I didn't just imagine them! I typed them, I paid for the ad, they exist... there is nothing to be in denial about. The disclaimer is very very real. You're a weirdo.



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e314/Nexxo00/Denial.jpg

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[Nicole Dupre]

*most unimportant thread ever

[pimpdog]

A women could never understand a mans attraction to a ts.

[giovanni_hotel]

Judging from how many for the men here are thinking they are either divorced, going to get divorced, or never going to get married and wank off dying as an old man.

Regardless, of the situation they are two sides to every story, but there is a chain reaction, he wanted to contact an escort because we can assume she wasn't giving him sex, but we have to ask why she was not giving him sex? so there is room for questions, sometimes communication is a big issue, and maybe they had their faults. But you cannot make this the woman's fault. You can never make a man happy sexually they are always going to be thinking about it everyday, with every hot girls they see, it's self control and many lack that... unfortunately. She needs to just get an open mind, and he just better damn explain himself really well.

However, if you do go back to her and she takes you back, you need to give up ts for good, if you don't your going to end up cheating again, with physical this time. Or you should make the decision to not be married so you may find that option... I don't think your ready for this marriage.


Evon, I offered up my own personal OPINION. A theory. The OP didn't say this is what happened at all.
The reason I made this point was because women assume when a man cheats in most cases, it's because he's a dog. And that's just not true.
Sometimes there can be problems in the relationship involving intimacy and the MAN is not always the one who's at fault.

I do agree that fidelity is a CHOICE, and at the end of the day that responsibility lies with the person who cheats, not the other spouse. Just that sometimes cheaters are made by circumstances, it's not necessarily a personality defect they bring to a relationship from jump.

[pimpdog]

The reason why men dont tell GG's about TS's is because they will scream "gay" and not sleep with them, and guys goal is to sleep with GG's, if he likes TS's, then them too.

[Dark passenger]

Thats so untrue and unfair for them to make that assumption. I never saw a guy and thought wow hes hot, id like to suck him dry. But if i see a beautiful girl whos fine as hell and she has a dick, well its fair game.

[rockabilly]

My wife knows I dated a tg before and watched my tg porn with me. She is cool with it because she knows I'm happy and satisfied with her and would never cheat.

[SammiValentine]

am over it

[EvonRose]

Evon, I offered up my own personal OPINION. A theory. The OP didn't say this is what happened at all.
The reason I made this point was because women assume when a man cheats in most cases, it's because he's a dog. And that's just not true.
Sometimes there can be problems in the relationship involving intimacy and the MAN is not always the one who's at fault.

I do agree that fidelity is a CHOICE, and at the end of the day that responsibility lies with the person who cheats, not the other spouse. Just that sometimes cheaters are made by circumstances, it's not necessarily a personality defect they bring to a relationship from jump.

You can't justify cheating. You glamorize it and I'm not going to accept that answer. If you don't like the situation you are in get out or you make it worst....

For example, if you had told me and we are married I'm not happy with something its better to have a mutual separation.., It would be much more peaceful and i would be more understanding and even protect your secret.

If we are married and you cheat on me wether physically or even made moves to forth, I would make your life a living hell... divorce, humiliation, courts, child custody of there are any, money, everything because you betrayed me.

[giovanni_hotel]

What if we'vebeen married for 25 years, you've just gone through menopause and had your ovaries removed because of the risk of cancer?? The last thing you tell me you want is a foreign object inserted into your womb.
We still love each other, but intercourse has been removed from the equation.

What then?? Am I allowed to fulfill my physical desires/needs outside the marriage bedroom as long as I don't bring my trysts home with me???
This is an extreme example BTW and not really related to this situation per se, but IMO all 'cheating' in a marriage isn't the same.

[EvonRose]

What if we'vebeen married for 25 years, you've just gone through menopause and had your ovaries removed because of the risk of cancer?? The last thing you tell me you want is a foreign object inserted into your womb.
We still love each other, but intercourse has been removed from the equation.

What then?? Am I allowed to fulfill my physical desires/needs outside the marriage bedroom as long as I don't bring my trysts home with me???
This is an extreme example BTW and not really related to this situation per se, but IMO all 'cheating' in a marriage isn't the same.

So what my menopause would give you the right to lie and cheat on me? do you see how you sound?

Tell me I'm not fulfilling your needs, and talk to me i will reconsider. Should i cheat on you if you get testicular cancer and then your inability to get hard? twist it however you want it boils down to he same root, communication is key, the cheater has no justification in my eyes.

All cheating is the same, put you position in the person being cheated on, you would not like it either.

For better or worst? I guess that don't mean anything.

[pimpdog]

Cheating on somebody cause there sick, sounds like the most cowardly thing i can think of, worrying about your dick, and sexual needs while your wife has ovary cancer sounds so selfish, if my wife had anything wrong with her, id dedicate my life to taking care of her, Sex doesnt mean shit compared to love and loyalty,

[runningdownthatdream]

You can't justify cheating. You glamorize it and I'm not going to accept that answer. If you don't like the situation you are in get out or you make it worst....

For example, if you had told me and we are married I'm not happy with something its better to have a mutual separation.., It would be much more peaceful and i would be more understanding and even protect your secret.

If we are married and you cheat on me wether physically or even made moves to forth, I would make your life a living hell... divorce, humiliation, courts, child custody of there are any, money, everything because you betrayed me.

So as a service to married women everywhere you turn down any and all married men who wish to partake of your services? Very noble of you to limit your revenue stream in that manner given that married men comprise the majority of your market!

[Tyler___Durden]

Tyler, i didnt call the escort to get any kicks or anything. I m in Virginia, she was coming to D.C. Her add suggested to book asap because she was just visiting for a limited time. If i knew how i would attach the email so you could see what i asked. I was if she was available a day and time and if not when was the best time she was free around the time and day in question.
Hey you don't need to justify stuff to me or any or us.
My post was intended as humorous.
Though you are still wasting the escorts time.
Anyway, your wife found your email enquiring about booking an escort.
Other than you booking an escort, what other interpretation could your wife consider?
I can't think of any.

But as you are still here
If you found some email correspondence between your wife
and a Mafia hit man talking about killing you....
Would you take your wife's word that she was only talking about killing you
and had no intention of having you killed?

Would you believe her?

Would the police believe her?
Would the jury believe her? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/chin.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) Thought not..

ps. stop posting! http://serve.mysmiley.net/winking/winking0051.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net)
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[EvonRose]

So as a service to married women everywhere you turn down any and all married men who wish to partake of your services? Very noble of you to limit your revenue stream in that manner given that married men comprise the majority of your market!

Why is it that there is that one guy who never reads before making a comment, did we not talk about this already?

All my sugar daddies are divorced or single, I am not prominent in the adult scene for this reason I don't particularly feel the need to be in adult entertainment when I have better financial benefits and a better lifestyle with my sugar daddies.

I do dom work on the side, If i saw a married man, either I don't know about it, or they lied to me.

I am not psychic, I am a 5'7, strong independent, young, woman who makes a good living for herself. My intentions were not to make people cheat, if they do that's their choice.

[runningdownthatdream]

Why is it that there is that one guy who never reads before making a comment, did we not talk about this already?

All my sugar daddies are divorced or single, I am not prominent in the adult scene for this reason I don't particularly feel the need to be in adult entertainment when I have better financial benefits and a better lifestyle with my sugar daddies.

I do dom work on the side, If i saw a married man, either I don't know about it, or they lied to me.

I am not psychic, I am a 5'7, strong independent, young, woman who makes a good living for herself. My intentions were not to make people cheat, if they do that's their choice.

I was making a comment......not criticizing. Good that you have linked your personal ethics to you business. Although of course you can't know whether someone is married or not so it is possible that you're constantly contributing to adultery on a regular basis. How about you choose another line of work that doesn't even allow for the possibility of encouraging infidelity if you feel so strongly about it?

[Tyler___Durden]

What is it exactly that you think I'm in denial about again? You aren't making any sense.
I have a disclaimer that says "no married men". Where does the denial fit in? I can PROVE that my ad says "no married men"... so what's your gripe all about?

How can I possibly be in denial about the words that are literally on my ad? THEY ARE ACTUALLY THERE FOR ALL TO READ. I didn't just imagine them! I typed them, I paid for the ad, they exist... there is nothing to be in denial about. The disclaimer is very very real. You're a weirdo.

Charming.
I was suggesting that you are in denial about your client-base true demographic.
(Sorry about not being clear)
I was just mildly curious about your stance and dogmatic view about fidelity.
Which kinda goes against the grain as it's coming from an escort,
who by definition WILL HAVE married men as (probably) a significant %
of her clients, whatever she puts up as a disclaimer.
It seems at odds with every other escort I know.
(That's not a criticism of you, BTW)

Anyway,
I'm a bit more curious.
We both whore and I understand that we are both in long term relationships with loving partners who are fully aware that we escort.
If you had a potential client who stated that they were married and they had their wife's full blessing for them to see you,
would you contract with them?

[Tyler___Durden]

Thats so untrue and unfair for them to make that assumption. I never saw a guy and thought wow hes hot, id like to suck him dry. But if i see a beautiful girl whos fine as hell and she has a dick, well its fair game.
Well that's honest.
If that's a fixed point for you
then be honest with your wife about it and work out together
if there is any way you can stay together.
(It does happen, though rare)

[EvonRose]

I was making a comment......not criticizing. Good that you have linked your personal ethics to you business. Although of course you can't know whether someone is married or not so it is possible that you're constantly contributing to adultery on a regular basis. How about you choose another line of work that doesn't even allow for the possibility of encouraging infidelity if you feel so strongly about it?

Sugar daddies are all divorces or single.

The clienteles I regularly have, as far as I know are not married, or don't bother to ask. Why should I sacrifice my support for the few men who may be married to see me with the money i make with the ones who are not?

I provide a service, intentionally to men who are able to, if a man comes to me and me unknowingly he is married, did I force a gun to his head to see me? If he came in with a big sign on his head saying he is married I would reconsider, but that's not the case now is it?

[pimpdog]

Sugar daddies are all divorces or single.

The clienteles I regularly have, as far as I know are not married, or don't bother to ask. Why should I sacrifice my support for the few men who may be married to see me with the money i make with the ones who are not?

I provide a service, intentionally to men who are able to, if a man comes to me and me unknowingly he is married, did I force a gun to his head to see me? If he came in with a big sign on his head saying he is married I would reconsider, but that's not the case now is it? Umm Sweetie, look at yourself in the Mirror, yours looks alone would force alot of things, any guy who didnt wanna get with you, id wonder about if he likes girls at all.

[pimpdog]

But if I was married, and avoid being alone with a girl like you in the first place, because i could slip or, or be too weak to say no, if you came onto me!!!

[EvonRose]

Umm Sweetie, look at yourself in the Mirror, yours looks alone would force alot of things, any guy who didnt wanna get with you, id wonder about if he likes girls at all.

awww your sweet, but i would hate to be the cause of divorces...

[SunshyneMonroe]

Girl if every man that came too you had a ring on his finger you would see them stop playing lol yall crack me up :(

[Jamie French]

I get that all the time, and no I don't/haven't. You see, I don't escort because I'm greedy, I escort because I feel my time is best spent NOT working a 9 to 5 job. Escorting provides for me the most valuable thing I can think of... TIME. Because I don't care about owning stuff or buying things I can quite literally be (and am) as finicky as imaginable about who I allow through my front door. Having said that, my real money is made through my website and most especially through my video editing job with Grooby. Between those to things and my band(s) I barely have time to escort, so when I do it's most likely a well established regular and not some new guy who I don't know from Adam. Look at the picture below... is this the kind of person who doesn't do EXACTLY as they see fit at all times?

http://www.skullcandymedia.com/drshow/show4.JPG



Charming.
I was suggesting that you are in denial about your client-base true demographic.
(Sorry about not being clear)
I was just mildly curious about your stance and dogmatic view about fidelity.
Which kinda goes against the grain as it's coming from an escort,
who by definition WILL HAVE married men as (probably) a significant %
of her clients, whatever she puts up as a disclaimer.
It seems at odds with every other escort I know.
(That's not a criticism of you, BTW)

Anyway,
I'm a bit more curious.
We both whore and I understand that we are both in long term relationships with loving partners who are fully aware that we escort.
If you had a potential client who stated that they were married and they had their wife's full blessing for them to see you,
would you contract with them?

[kaiser1one]

^must be shopped. I think I see some blur.

[Helvis2012]

She's your wife and you obviously don't want her to go...make her understand that.
Be honest and you'll probably be ok.
Good luck man.

[EvonRose]

Most of my money comes from a regular sugar daddy relationship. Spending a huge amount of my time with them I can tell you know they are not married. It really is a blessing because I can pursue other work, I'm still young so im still working on a career, but Like I said before If i do get a married client I didn't know about it. I don't think that's apporitate condo, IMO

[Dark passenger]

I just wanted to thank all of you who actually took a second to give a damn and offer advice on this situation. I picked her up last night and we talked for hours. She still doesn't understand the whole seeing a tg as a real woman but is willing to give our marriage another shot as long as i never contact another escort and we seek some type of counseling. (Thank you for that suggestion, you know who you are.) She claims the tg porn isn't something shes fond of but as long as i keep it to myself she doesnt care. I guess out of sound, out of mind. Its nothing im gonna be able to erase but we're going to work at it. Theres lots more but i just wanted to thank you guys and bringing my problems n questions here helped me tremendously with trying to make her understand. She'll be coming home later on this evening.

[buttslinger]

Good news, don't blow it.
There is a BOOK on tranny chasers that your shrink has probably read. In other words they've done research on it. Here's a long boring lecture on sexual attraction that touches on guys who like that certain "extra something." I'm too lazy to watch it, but in your case, with so much riding on what you don't even really understand, it might be time to start tackling your behavior before her attorney tackles your wallet.
Like Elmer used to say "Me and my wife share the house. She gets the inside, and I get the outside"

Authors@Google: Ogi Ogas - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4)

[russtafa]

fucking married men are fence sitters ,"oh my friends might find out i'm a poof" these cunts should man up and choose what side they want to live on!

[loren]

You cheated. You deserve whatever you get. No advice, just the knowledge that there are people out there loving the fact that you have really hard times ahead. I wonder who your wife is going to fuck now? A friend of yours perhaps? Women are wicked that way... sleep tight.:iagree: I don't play with married guys, unless his wife approves. Some couples have an open relationship.

[celticgrafix]

thats awesome, same time, 90% of chicks would flip over a guy watching porn. It's a jealousy factor. im sorry but thats funny

[Tyler___Durden]

I picked her up last night and we talked for hours. She still doesn't understand the whole seeing a tg as a real woman but is willing to give our marriage another shot as long as i never contact another escort and we seek some type of counseling.
That's great news. But it is only a start and you both have a long road ahead. I hope you are going to reconcile.

Here's a couple of thoughts.
1. I've a friend who's first sexual experience was in school with another schoolgirl.
Later she married, had two lovely children, who are now all grown up.
She posts on a uk crossdresser forum and she has been my real-life friend for about 6 years.
Anyway, she sometimes posts about infidelity, and she has chatted with me about it.
She often criticises married men or married crossdressers who have sex with other crossdressers.
They are all in denial about being bi and use these sexual 'wants' as justification for cheating.
{by cheating she refers to everything from sex, all the way back to setting up dates, cybersex, and advertising the desire for 'meets'}
Anyway, her point is that if someone is bisexual,
and married, they still have a choice
as to whether to act upon it, in any way, or not.
The whole time she was married she was obviously still bisexual, but she stayed 100% loyal to her hubby.

The second point is that attraction to trans-varience people does not just stop or go. You will be attracted to us lot regardless.
It's how you handle this which is important.
What is more important?
(at the moment, your marriage, but in one year, 18 months, five years?)
I guess you will work these things out with yourself along the way.
I hope keeping this as a porn-only thing may be a solution for you.
Remember 99% of men never go any further than looking at us on line.
I hope that works for you.
Oh, and the tranny thing. Yes we are different and new and exciting.
But only for a while. Anyone in a relationship with a ts will you that away from the porn fantasy and the anatomy, we are just like any other female partner, though often more moodier.
Certainly not worth throwing a marriage away over.

Yes the counselling is a great start.
Good luck, n' all that.

Tyler. x

[Nicole Dupre]

fucking married men are fence sitters ,"oh my friends might find out i'm a poof" these cunts should man up and choose what side they want to live on!
Holy shit. I agree with you. lol

[RallyCola]

thats awesome, same time, 90% of chicks would flip over a guy watching porn. It's a jealousy factor. im sorry but thats funny

my wife's cousin beat her husband with a hammer and smashed his laptop because he was watching porn and jerking off late at night.

some women just react poorly.

[Ben]

Holy shit. I agree with you. lol

Ha ha! That is a first -- ha ha!
And, too, it'd be like saying, well, my wife found out I like Derrick Barry and Anderson Brooks and is upset... and I'm not sure why -- ha ha ha!
I mean, there are a lot of gay guys who have strictly heterosexual sex. It may be more common than we realize.

[celticgrafix]

my wife's cousin beat her husband with a hammer and smashed his laptop because he was watching porn and jerking off late at night.

some women just react poorly.

hhaaa, yeh but poorly is an understatement

[Dark passenger]

@Tyler, thanks for ur advice. Like i said theres alot more to my relationship that i didnt wish to go into. Yes i am most definitely and always have been turned on by tgs. I explained to her that that attraction wasnt going to go away but my choice to act upon it is something that i would be able to control. I think that through everything that we've gone through these last few days, its a big step for her accepting me and my attraction and even going as far to try and be as cool as she can be about me even watching tg porn. Im going to work on my flaws as well as her working on hers. Like i said there was alot of:confused things that led up to what happened. But we're going to try n make everything work.

[Tyler___Durden]

Good news, don't blow it.
There is a BOOK on tranny chasers that your shrink has probably read. In other words they've done research on it. Here's a long boring lecture on sexual attraction that touches on guys who like that certain "extra something." I'm too lazy to watch it, but in your case, with so much riding on what you don't even really understand, it might be time to start tackling your behavior before her attorney tackles your wallet.
Like Elmer used to say "Me and my wife share the house. She gets the inside, and I get the outside"

Authors@Google: Ogi Ogas - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4)
www.billionwickedthoughts.com (http://www.billionwickedthoughts.com/index.html)
I've seen the vid before last august.
It was heavily criticised:
"They've [Boston University] gotten a lot of emails regarding Dr. Ogas. He is no longer in any way affiliated with Boston University, except as a recent graduate. They have asked him to stop using his official Boston University email address in connection with this project, or his website. He is officially on his own, and this project is NOT IRB APPROVED.

That is the official status as stated by the Boston University IRB office.

The problem with this is threefold:

1. The researcher has no expertise in the area he is researching, nor has he recruited anyone to give him guidance.

2. The researcher has substantial profit motivation to produce work in this area (book contract with Penguin) which may lead to unethical conduct/a tendency to misrepresent his results.

3. The research is in no way overseen by any external body which can examine it for potential unethical conduct. "

>>>Source<<< (http://ithiliana.dreamwidth.org/1064846.html)

Boston University took action to actively distance themselves from him, and insist he stop implying professional association with them.
Also, this is not peer-reviewed research.

Regardless, on a personal level I thing they are bang on with their observations of male sexual attraction.
And I hope it prompts others to conduct further study and use of their methodology
(using the porn site user data)
just with proper scientific methodology.

[baller1987]

Good news, don't blow it.
There is a BOOK on tranny chasers that your shrink has probably read. In other words they've done research on it. Here's a long boring lecture on sexual attraction that touches on guys who like that certain "extra something." I'm too lazy to watch it, but in your case, with so much riding on what you don't even really understand, it might be time to start tackling your behavior before her attorney tackles your wallet.
Like Elmer used to say "Me and my wife share the house. She gets the inside, and I get the outside"

Authors@Google: Ogi Ogas - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4)

Awesome vid thanks

[Dark passenger]

And believe me im not bi. Im not into men at all. If a beautiful woman has sumthing extra to play with, then thats an extra plus. I am definitely a freak when it comes to sex. That was one big problem was the loss of flair and spark. There were so many topics i wanted to comment on that ive read but i didnt want to, being a stanger. But now ill participate in discussions more and maybe you'll get a better idea of who i am and what im into.

[russtafa]

Holy shit. I agree with you. lol
FUCKING HELL:whoa:whoa:whoa:whoa:whoa:whoa:shock::shock::s hock::shock:

[maaarc]

And believe me im not bi. Im not into men at all. If a beautiful woman has sumthing extra to play with, then thats an extra plus. I am definitely a freak when it comes to sex. That was one big problem was the loss of flair and spark. There were so many topics i wanted to comment on that ive read but i didnt want to, being a stanger. But now ill participate in discussions more and maybe you'll get a better idea of who i am and what im into.

sorry bro but I still think the thread is a Rick roll - if you are for real sorry for your troubles - and if it's a rick roll you fucking rule!!! can we be drinking buddies? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

[Dark passenger]

Man aint nothing fabricated about this. Over the last few days ive been insulted, ridiculed, judged and embarrassed. I wish this was all some kind of bad dream but its far from that. Ive lost a few homeboys, and made some new friends but one thing i do is keep it real. I have too much goin on in my life to be some make believe land loser. I mean really who does that?

[Nicole Dupre]

That's why this thread is the biggest waste of time ever. Who would bother to keep a story like this updated for people they don't even know on a porn forum? Wouldn't simply being on this very site only make a bad situation worse?

[SunshyneMonroe]

Most of my money comes from a regular sugar daddy relationship. Spending a huge amount of my time with them I can tell you know they are not married. It really is a blessing because I can pursue other work, I'm still young so im still working on a career, but Like I said before If i do get a married client I didn't know about it. I don't think that's apporitate condo, IMO

Thats not the point if they were married and you knew it you would still see them....you would not pick someones wife over ur own income if that was the case you would be like Jamie and post that you dont see married men she does this ive seen her ad...

[EvonRose]

Thats not the point if they were married and you knew it you would still see them....you would not pick someones wife over ur own income if that was the case you would be like Jamie and post that you dont see married men she does this ive seen her ad...

yes thats why if you kept reading below, someone explains that situation in business, you can't compare our line of work with someone's personal marriage. Married men are not my primary source of income.

FYI i refuse married men as sugar daddies, do you know the issues and drama connected with that? it's not steady income as to NSA or being in a relationship with a single man who can give full attention and support.

Every professional adult worker knows the top P topics not to talk about.

Politics

personal life

problems

I rather keep to professional.

[Mike11]

This is why when I get married, it will be the right girl, and cheating wont even be a possiblity.

Don't worry you will learn in time.

[russtafa]

Don't worry you will learn in time.
well pick what side of the fence you are on and stay there=cant get in trouble then

[Dark passenger]

Maybe some people have seen this before from being here for so long, so it may seem irrelevant to them. And then there are people who are here that have no problem helping someone else deal with a bad situation. I updated what happened because the people who did help me gave a damn and wanted to know what happened and if theyre advice helped. I came here to talk to strangers because when something like that happens and ur wifes gone, your friends dont want to fuck with you, and your too embarrassed to talk to your family about it, u look for anyone who will listen. But i got the answers i was seeking and things are on the right track to repair. Theres no more updating necessary so thanks again. But it blows my mind how alot of people act like this type of shit doesn't and cant happen. I guess youve been so comfortable in your lives you forget in the real world around you things still go wrong.

[Nicole Dupre]

Go spend time with your wife if you're so grateful to have her in your life and stop babbling to a bunch of total strangers on a fucking porn forum. If this story was real, which it's not, it looks like you're pretty bent on somehow getting caught at something anyway. But like I said, I think you're completely full of shit.

[Dark passenger]

Fuck what u think. Ur fucking retarded as fuck, i sware. Im done defending myself to everybody and then some, you can kiss my fucking ass sincerely.

[rockabilly]

Go spend time with your wife if you're so grateful to have her in your life and stop babbling to a bunch of total strangers on a fucking porn forum. If this story was real, which it's not, it looks like you're pretty bent on somehow getting caught at something anyway. But like I said, I think you're completely full of shit.

Nicole has a point, spend time with your wife. Show her that she's a priority to you ... do something together like a date night. Maybe dinner or a movie .

[Dark passenger]

Look my wife is a nurse and i own a construction co. She doesnt have to work but she chooses to. Im up at 5 a.m. every morning and she starts at 8 a.m. usually. Thats why she didnt come home til yesterday evening. That was one of our biggest problems, shes ALWAYS too tired to do anything. But she is going to work on making time for me. Come noon im finished working and have nothing to do soexcept often i end up on my computer. Like i said theres more to my life than is said here. At times i have nothing but time so thats why i end up here.

[giovanni_hotel]

If you're not worried about your wife checking your search history on your laptop when you aren't in the house, there's no problem chilling on HA.
However it might be a bitch trying to explain contacting an escort AND why you're on this site.

You know how she is, obviously. Just use caution.

Working construction and being a nurse, that's a rough schedule for any relationship. Rockabilly is right on, you both need to make an effort to carve out more one on one time besides when you go to bed and wake up in the morning.

BTW, some folks here think it's stupid to logon to HA for something more than seeing naked pics of TGs. So feel free to sit over here with the rest of of dunces in the naughty corner.

People don't realize this site is unique in that there's no place else on the interwebz a man can go to talk to transgendered women and other like-minded men who understand this whole attraction to TGs thing.

[Dark passenger]

You hit the nail on the head Gio. For a long time i did just that, looking at pics and reading. But once i finally had a reason to talk to people it felt crazy good to actually get some of my thoughts out there and finally talk to people who feel the same way. Its like getting a thousand lb weight off your shoulders. Dont worry we're going to make the best of every minute we get together so evenings ill be off line for now on.

[Mike11]

well pick what side of the fence you are on and stay there=cant get in trouble then

I wish life was so black and while all the time and I will admire you if you can keep to your word but as I said, time will tell.

[hauser82]

The computer. I got a different email n i was setting up a date with an escort n forgot to log out.
Hahahhah you planned to wipe your 3inch cock over some drag whore's asshole, and then stick it in your wifes mouth.

[Fancy fancy]

Love x



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[russtafa]

I wish life was so black and while all the time and I will admire you if you can keep to your word but as I said, time will tell.

i left the fish markets many years ago and have never gone back and i don't find the notion a pleasant thought.i have been in this current relationship for 3 years and i am very happy with her and have never cheated

[Nicole Dupre]

If you actually gave a shit about this wife of yours, who's a nurse, why wouldn't you seek professional counseling? You claim that you own a construction company, which btw I bet is just a fancy way of saying you're a handyman who does odd jobs. But let's say it's true. Don't you have health insurance that covers seeing a halfway decent shrink with your wife? What could a bunch of guys on a porn forum possibly offer you other than their shoulders to cry on? My guess is you just don't want to face the embarrassment of a divorce based on the grounds that you were sucking a tranny hooker's cock. Let's face it. You obviously don't respect your wife's feeling enough to not come right back into the world tranny porn and escorts when you come back here every day. Obviously there's no real remorse about anything other than getting caught. She's your "beard"; your way of covering up for all of your homophobic construction worker buddies that you're not what you guys proudly call "being straight". And that's why you bore me. Cheating men who've been dishonest with their wives, who kiss them with the same lying lips that they've sucked my dick with, are a dime a dozen. You're a statistic that's not worth discussing.

[russtafa]

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:
If you actually gave a shit about this wife of yours, who's a nurse, why wouldn't you seek professional counseling? You claim that you own a construction company, which btw I bet is just a fancy way of saying you're a handyman who does odd jobs. But let's say it's true. Don't you have health insurance that covers seeing a halfway decent shrink with your wife? What could a bunch of guys on a porn forum possibly offer you other than their shoulders to cry on? My guess is you just don't want to face the embarrassment of a divorce based on the grounds that you were sucking a tranny hooker's cock. Let's face it. You obviously don't respect your wife's feeling enough to not come right back into the world tranny porn and escorts when you come back here every day. Obviously there's no real remorse about anything other than getting caught. She's your "beard"; your way of covering up for all of your homophobic construction worker buddies that you're not what you guys proudly call "being straight". And that's why you bore me. Cheating men who've been dishonest with their wives, who kiss them with the same lying lips that they've sucked my dick with, are a dime a dozen. You're a statistic that's not worth discussing.
:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:so fucking true and these guys hurt their families with this shit

[celticgrafix]

can we delete this thread, no one gives a shit about all these complainers

[giovanni_hotel]

can we delete this thread, no one gives a shit about all these complainers
Would you please make a list of ALL the threads you'd like to see deleted because YOU don't give a shit??

GTFOH.

[Silcc69]

Honestly she shouldve know a lil sumthin when i started wearin her drawls.
:whistle::whistle::whistle: