How do I know if Escorting is right for me ?

[ashley24]

Hey everyone. Chicago here.

A few months back I tried escorting. I only got 1 serious client, and I was on and off for a few months. Point is I wasn't making any money. So i gave up.

I am trying to figure out if escorting is right for me. This is how it is. Men want to have sex with me, I can understand that and I do not want to have sex with someone I am not emotionally involved with. I had a "friend" that lied and said they didn't want sex from me, well, one thing led to another and i got used for sex and then he didn't want anything to do with me. I felt so used, I mean thats the reason I left the escorting biz, because of that resentment after sexual intercourse. And more importantly, I could have got Fucking paid for it. I'm so angry that I fell for someone's stupid lieing shit. I got over and told myself that If i ever meet someone who comes on that strong, to just ignore them. But i'm so confused.

I want the money escorting has to offer but I cannot stand having sex.

All I think of is that guy's ugly ass face and mouth being on me. At the time I liked it but now afterwords I am so angry at him that he used me. just the image in my head makes me so angry, that I am the person I am, and I let some worthless, disgusting human piece of trash touch me and even talk to me. I can't believe it.

Is escorting for me? i'm only 20 and so confused.

[FreddieGomez]

selling your soul for something that has no future.

[TsJizelle]

you should think about doing web cam then hun. I do not escort either for personal reasons.

[tsadriana]

Babe ur young ,actualy a kid in my opinion ...why?because u think being cute all men will love u.waits:what do u prefer fucking for free and someone using his balls in ur ass and nothing in change?or someone who pays u and gives u the chance to show the real woman u are?or u are just someone who doesnt even know in what world we live?ur to young for relantionship sweety.live ur life .relationship comes later when ur more mature and feed up with the fun x

[Tyler___Durden]

I want the money escorting has to offer but I cannot stand having sex.
=Totally the wrong job for you.

I'm indifferent to the sex part of Whoring, most of the time, but I love the overall buzz escorting gives me.
And I've been doing this for rather a long time. ;-)
If all jobs paid the same and I had the skill set to do any job in the world,
escorting would be in my top 10 choices.

I've seen a lot of escorts who do it for the money, only, get bitter twisted and cynical about people and life.
Please don't do escorting just to end up like them.

[Jamie French]

Escorting either immediately makes the most sense out of all the jobs you ever had or it is completely wrong. There's not a whole lot of middle ground. Basically, If you have to ask then the answer is no.
I was hesitant but open minded for my first gig and after it was over I was literally angry at myself for not having started 7 years earlier. (25 when I started) You had the opposite reaction... it's not for you.

[amberskyi]

selling your soul for something that has no future.

riiighhhttttt..so men like you can use us for sex but never entertain the possibility of anything real with us...im sorry but id rather get paid

[tsadriana]

riiighhhttttt..so men like you can use us for sex but never entertain the possibility of anything real with us...im sorry but id rather get paid

Amber if i was a man i do pay u for sex hun asi like u .lets be lesbians at least we know what we need :jerkoff:jerkoff:jerkoff

[jerseyboy72]

If you have to ask, than I would say no.

[tsadriana]

If you have to ask, than I would say no.
Jersey i thought i was loved u ...well i still love u but think again sugar.
by he way men think with their pants not wit their brain...is not offence is the truth ..bless u all lol

[jerseyboy72]

Jersey i thought i was loved u ...well i still love u but think again sugar.
by he way men think with their pants not wit their brain...is not offence is the truth ..bless u all lol

I'm a little older now I think with my brain, not with my cock. lol

[feneman]

Hey everyone. Chicago here.
I want the money escorting has to offer but I cannot stand having sex.


didn't you just answer your own question ?



don't get too mad you got used, everyone gets used,

job wise: you can get used depending on your skill set, either physically, emotionally or intellectually (depending on your job)

and relationship-wise: even married couples get used, either it is that they don't want to be alone, they want a financially sound future, they want someone to show-off to their family and friends, they want a mother for their kids, they want a "sperm-donor" cuz the clock is ticking, it could just be physical, or just emotional (that one guy who can't get out of the friend zone and is basically there for moral support and advise.), etc...

wow !! sorry ... must be the winter that gets me like this :P

[Dino Velvet]

I think with the big head but I consult with the other one too. As much as I adore Ladies Of The Evening, if you are not sure than "no" is the safe answer. Don't get involved in something you're not ready for. I might treat you nice but the next fella might not.

[Ineeda SM]

Ashley, you are not ready in your head to escort. Think about going to school and getting a regular job. Lot's of TS girls do and live happy normal lives. One day, you will meet the right guy that get's you all worked up, and you will find love. At your age, don't start selling yourself to any guy who has cash. Have a normal life and you will be happier later that you did.

[Prospero]

Ashley - emphatically - take another road. you clearly are not going to do your own mental or emotional health any good at all if you escort.

[Nikka]

try to Find Jesus

[Prospero]

Why Nikka? Did you lose him some place?

[Nikka]

Why Nikka? Did you lose him some place?

found him many years ago, past year I lost him, I am trying to find him again :praying:

:party::party:

[Prospero]

If you can't find him you could always try Mohammed.

[Nikka]

If you can't find him you could always try Mohammed.

I bought the Coran and read it, is totally fucked up

is like German rock band Kreator songs

EVERYONE AGAINS EVERYONE, HORDES OF CHAOSSS!!

[Prospero]

It's a hard read. No straight narrative like the Bible.

[Nikka]

It's a hard read. No straight narrative like the Bible.

exactly, and both books claims to have the right word, and both books are full of contradictions, so where is the truth?

maybe aswer is Buddha

[Tiffany Starr]

I for one don't like to escort at all. Thats just me though and I have my reasons. Plus I have a 2nd job that pays well so there is no point for me, I can't put slept with people for money on a resume.

[Nikka]

I for one don't like to escort at all. Thats just me though and I have my reasons. Plus I have a 2nd job that pays well so there is no point for me, I can't put slept with people for money on a resume.

what other Job Tiffany? :geek:

[Tiffany Starr]

what other Job Tiffany? :geek:

I work for a company in boston. I also may be getting a new job as a hostess at foxwoods casino.

[runningdownthatdream]

exactly, and both books claims to have the right word, and both books are full of contradictions, so where is the truth?

maybe aswer is Buddha

Ok so you're considering between Jeebus, He Whose Name Should Never be Insulted, and the Prince that Wasn't........... all claimed to have found/fed secrets from some higher power after experiencing some period where they question the meaning of life (sorta like what you're having). Note that when they experienced their epiphanies, it was usually alone with no witnesses around ;)

So, why not cut out the middle-man entirely and look for your own truth. Maybe you will experience something far more profound than the three above. What makes them better than you?

[Nikka]

I work for a company in boston. I also may be getting a new job as a hostess at foxwoods casino.

wow cool Tiffany!

if in South America Casinos weren't be own and run by the Mafia I would have tried it :)

[Prospero]

Nikka - I think the simple truth is that there is no simple truth. Those who seek simple answers may find something they can believe in. But truth: That's much more elusive. As runningdownthedream suggests you will find better answers by looking elsewhere.

[Nikka]

Nikka - I think the simple truth is that there is no simple truth. Those who seek simple answers may find something they can believe in. But truth: That's much more elusive. As runningdownthedream suggests you will find better answers by looking elsewhere.

I know Prospero, is a shame it took me so long

but not my fault I guess for a small town girl with big town dreaMS :D

[Prospero]

Bet you stole a lot of hearts in that small town though....

[Ryz]

Is escorting truly for anyone though? :/

[Nicole Dupre]

Escorting is a means to an end. And that's if you even have it in you to do it at all.

And if you have no street smarts or you're not a good judge of character, don't bother.

Stay in school.

[Prospero]

wise words from la Dupre

[Jamie French]

Yeah, it is. I have an awesome life because of it. Opportunities sprung from it that wouldn't have come any other way. Prerequisites? Functioning, focused, well maintained brain.


Is escorting truly for anyone though? :/

[saintpatrick]

[QUOTE=ashley24;1088064]Hey everyone. Chicago here.

A few months back I tried escorting. I only got 1 serious client, and I was on and off for a few months. Point is I wasn't making any money. So i gave up.



I want the money escorting has to offer but I cannot stand having sex.

Would you become a professional boxer if you couldn't stand punching other people in the head and getting punched back? Some people are good at boxing or sex work because they have a physical talent for it, enjoy it or at least enjoy most of it and have the ability to deal with the part they don't enjoy. If you don't like boxing or sex work---leave it to the pros.

[ashley24]

Thank you all for your help. I'm still very confused. I know this can be easy and easy money as well. but there's a lot of danger involved with the strange men that call. And no matter how street smart or good judge of character you are, you will NEVER be able to see what someone's true intentions are. i.e. hurting you, verbal abuse. Escorting is a lot of luck. the thing is, these men that call you have no clue!!!! it's so strange how they seem to function in life. They are antisocial, weirdo's. Who like to manipulate people and use them.

Escorting can be easy at times, or it can be hell.

i'm still confused, i keep thinking of the money and not the risks involved.

But if there is one thing I KNOW OF.....it is, I like the sex at first but afterwards I feel soo HORRIBLE. I feel like.....what did I just GIVE AWAY.??? Something so special...to some nasty ass human garbage.


I have to get my mind out of this stage.....out of the "I SHOULD ESCORT STAGE" ..... I know for a damn fact it Would be HELL on my MENTAL HEALTH.



I appreciate your time and knowledge ladies. It' feels better knowing I have someone to speak my mind to and not worry about being left out.


-Ashley.

[Jamie French]

You can't do it. Don't even try. Anyone who has ever been successful at this has never formed those kind of thoughts let alone entertained them. Everyone's a little nervous at first, but you know after the first time you're either in or out. Unless you do drugs then you don't care so long as DRUGS.


Thank you all for your help. I'm still very confused. I know this can be easy and easy money as well. but there's a lot of danger involved with the strange men that call. And no matter how street smart or good judge of character you are, you will NEVER be able to see what someone's true intentions are. i.e. hurting you, verbal abuse. Escorting is a lot of luck. the thing is, these men that call you have no clue!!!! it's so strange how they seem to function in life. They are antisocial, weirdo's. Who like to manipulate people and use them.

Escorting can be easy at times, or it can be hell.

i'm still confused, i keep thinking of the money and not the risks involved.

But if there is one thing I KNOW OF.....it is, I like the sex at first but afterwards I feel soo HORRIBLE. I feel like.....what did I just GIVE AWAY.??? Something so special...to some nasty ass human garbage.


I have to get my mind out of this stage.....out of the "I SHOULD ESCORT STAGE" ..... I know for a damn fact it Would be HELL on my MENTAL HEALTH.



I appreciate your time and knowledge ladies. It' feels better knowing I have someone to speak my mind to and not worry about being left out.


-Ashley.

[Nicole Dupre]

2 to 1, this a cop.

[dante]

2 to 1, this a cop.

who want to call Ashley for escort services?

[Dino Velvet]

I bought the Coran and read it, is totally fucked up

is like German rock band Kreator songs

EVERYONE AGAINS EVERYONE, HORDES OF CHAOSSS!!

Or more like this.

Kreator-Violent Revolution (High Quality) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR7xBj0bDD8)

Kreator - "Enemy of God" SPV Records - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLJ8lxv97Fo)

[GroobySteven]

2 to 1, this a cop.

I'll take those odds.
It's a troll. They're getting off on it.

[flabbybody]

2 to 1, this a cop.
got our share of LE here.
hopefully they log in for entertainment and not on taxpayer's time.

[FreddieGomez]

riiighhhttttt..so men like you can use us for sex but never entertain the possibility of anything real with us...im sorry but id rather get paid

i dont use anybody for sex. you have sex with me because u want to.

i'm celibate now anyway

[BLKGSXR]

i dont use anybody for sex. you have sex with me because u want to.

i'm celibate now anyway
:deadhorse ROFLXCOPTER!

[onmyknees]

i dont use anybody for sex. you have sex with me because u want to.

i'm celibate now anyway

LMAO....what a trip this guy is....

[FreddieGomez]

why do u respond to everything i post even if it don't pertain to you?

[Wendy Summers]

I'll take those odds.
It's a troll. They're getting off on it.

Troll porn!

http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/148/a47a0060301c451993136cffe4bbbcfa/l.jpg

[onmyknees]

why do u respond to everything i post even if it don't pertain to you?


Why do take self portraits with your shirt pulled up, your pants pulled down and your hat on backwards ? You're a grown ass man for fucks sake. Act like it. There's your answer, troll.

[Nicole Dupre]

Freddie has a nice body.

[BLKGSXR]

Why do take self portraits with your shirt pulled up, your pants pulled down and your hat on backwards ? You're a grown ass man for fucks sake. Act like it. There's your answer, troll.
:werd::werd::werd::werd::werd:

[Nicole Dupre]

why do u respond to everything i post even if it don't pertain to you?
Maybe he has a crush on you. Lol

[FreddieGomez]

Why do take self portraits with your shirt pulled up, your pants pulled down and your hat on backwards ? You're a grown ass man for fucks sake. Act like it. There's your answer, troll.

ok i see, it's a jealousy thing

but to answer your question, because i can. you'd show off your body too if u had one.

[FreddieGomez]

Freddie has a nice body.

thanks mama.

[Nicole Dupre]

Yw.

I wish more guys would show off if they have nice bodies. What the hell else is there for the girls to look at. I don't give a damn about porn or women. I look at Vogue if I want to see sickening beauty and photography . 90% of the porn here, I cringe at.

[amberskyi]

i dont use anybody for sex. you have sex with me because u want to.

i'm celibate now anyway

i wasnt talking literally using but at the same time you have to admit how fucked up it is for you to be able to sleep with a particular person but never actually entertain the possibility for more.its a bit dehumanizing and humiliating....your good enough for me to bone but not to care about???
atleast when im escorting i can put everything in the context of a fantasy.im providing a service.where as if i was to sleep with someone like you (no offence mate) i would feel less than afterwards...its a very hurtful thing the day you realize that most men will never take you seriously not because of who you are as a person but because of what you were born.
so instead of getting all depressed and suicidal, im screaming with my middle fingers in the air FUCK YOU PAY ME! lmaoooooo

[SunshyneMonroe]

i wasnt talking literally using but at the same time you have to admit how fucked up it is for you to be able to sleep with a particular person but never actually entertain the possibility for more.its a bit dehumanizing and humiliating....your good enough for me to bone but not to care about???
atleast when im escorting i can put everything in the context of a fantasy.im providing a service.where as if i was to sleep with someone like you (no offence mate) i would feel less than afterwards...its a very hurtful thing the day you realize that most men will never take you seriously not because of who you are as a person but because of what you were born.
so instead of getting all depressed and suicidal, im screaming with my middle fingers in the air FUCK YOU PAY ME! lmaoooooo

Very true

[slingblade]

if you dont like having sex why are you even wasting time talking about escorting?

[Nicole Dupre]

Escorting is a job. The perks are getting oral and getting paid imo. The fans and clients will just be memories eventually. Some are ok. Some are scumbags. But none of them are keepers. I mean, why would we take you guys seriously? Who the fuck would be proud to be with a guy who needs to jerk off to porn and who pays escorts to fuck them in the ass? Normal people date and get married. They don't participate in this nonsense.

"What's your BF up to right now, Nicole?"

"Oh, him? He's on HungAngels, looking at cock shots. He's there chit-chatting with Natina and KIR470, or maybe Kitty Pride. He's such a fucking catch. Isn't he?"

Yeah, right. My Sicilian ass.

I'd like to know, who here is supposedly looking for a GF or wife? It's been my experience that even the guys who say they're looking for a pre-op TS wife are either bullshitting themselves or bullshitting us. The most stable transsexuals I know, who are in the best LTRs, are post op btw. That's just the way it is.

[FreddieGomez]

i wasnt talking literally using but at the same time you have to admit how fucked up it is for you to be able to sleep with a particular person but never actually entertain the possibility for more.its a bit dehumanizing and humiliating....your good enough for me to bone but not to care about???
atleast when im escorting i can put everything in the context of a fantasy.im providing a service.where as if i was to sleep with someone like you (no offence mate) i would feel less than afterwards...its a very hurtful thing the day you realize that most men will never take you seriously not because of who you are as a person but because of what you were born.
so instead of getting all depressed and suicidal, im screaming with my middle fingers in the air FUCK YOU PAY ME! lmaoooooo

i've fucked genetic women in the past and left them the next day and none really cared that much, one or two did get crazy though. just because you're a tranny doesn't mean anything.

[ashley24]

i wasnt talking literally using but at the same time you have to admit how fucked up it is for you to be able to sleep with a particular person but never actually entertain the possibility for more.its a bit dehumanizing and humiliating....your good enough for me to bone but not to care about???
atleast when im escorting i can put everything in the context of a fantasy.im providing a service.where as if i was to sleep with someone like you (no offence mate) i would feel less than afterwards...its a very hurtful thing the day you realize that most men will never take you seriously not because of who you are as a person but because of what you were born.
so instead of getting all depressed and suicidal, im screaming with my middle fingers in the air FUCK YOU PAY ME! lmaoooooo



I Couldn't agree with you anymore....you hit it dead on. I realized that I wanted a relationship, but all the men in bars and nightclubs just want to have sex with me. That makes me angry, so You know what. I can give two shits!!!! I will treat this as a business.....I have a service and you want the service. That way i get what I want (money) and their LOSER SCUMBAG ANTISOCIAL asses get what they want. hahahaha

taking fast money never felt so GOOD!!!!!!

[amberskyi]

i've fucked genetic women in the past and left them the next day and none really cared that much, one or two did get crazy though. just because you're a tranny doesn't mean anything.

the difference is you have and would consider dating a gg but you would never consider that with a ts,let alone be seen with one.so dont give me that bull

[Dino Velvet]

Amber, you are a wise lady way beyond your years. You understand not only yourself but many of us fellas as well.

[runningdownthatdream]

I Couldn't agree with you anymore....you hit it dead on. I realized that I wanted a relationship, but all the men in bars and nightclubs just want to have sex with me. That makes me angry, so You know what. I can give two shits!!!! I will treat this as a business.....I have a service and you want the service. That way i get what I want (money) and their LOSER SCUMBAG ANTISOCIAL asses get what they want. hahahaha

taking fast money never felt so GOOD!!!!!!

Aren't you getting a little ahead of yourself here Brain!? You did say you've only one client and that you felt like shit about it afterwards.......so how did that turn into what you wrote above!?!

[onmyknees]

ok i see, it's a jealousy thing

but to answer your question, because i can. you'd show off your body too if u had one.


LMAO...OK...I cave. You're right...and I've simply got to come to terms with it so here's my mea culpa...

I'm on awe of you Freddie Gomez. Envious of a guy who can't decide if he's Puerto Rican or black...or both. A guy who cleans up after day rate hotel visitors, a dude who supplements his pultry income with food stamps. A guy with lots of sexual hang ups and no identy who trolls on a TS board, and whose only sexual activity is with himself. A guy who's never been on the other side of the Brooklyn Bridge... A worldly sap who by his own admission doesn't even know any white folks....shall I go on? You got the whole package dude. And as far as your body....checkin' dudes out ain't my thing , but I'm sure there's plenty of takers on here for ya...but you look small to me...like 5'7"....real light in the ass, with a wise mouth and not much backin' it up....the first guy to look for the door when the big boyz throw down...and that kid of yours....are you supportin' him...or am I?
You're a class act Freddie. Someone I aspire to be like.......:Bowdown:

[Nicole Dupre]

LMAO...OK...I cave. You're right...and I've simply got to come to terms with it so here's my mea culpa...

I'm on awe of you Freddie Gomez. Envious of a guy who can't decide if he's Puerto Rican or black...or both. A guy who cleans up after day rate hotel visitors, a dude who supplements his pultry income with food stamps. A guy with lots of sexual hang ups and no identy who trolls on a TS board, and whose only sexual activity is with himself. A guy who's never been on the other side of the Brooklyn Bridge... A worldly sap who by his own admission doesn't even know any white folks....shall I go on? You got the whole package dude. And as far as your body....checkin' dudes out ain't my thing , but I'm sure there's plenty of takers on here for ya...but you look small to me...like 5'7"....real light in the ass, with a wise mouth and not much backin' it up....the first guy to look for the door when the big boyz throw down...and that kid of yours....are you supportin' him...or am I?
You're a class act Freddie. Someone I aspire to be like.......:Bowdown:
He had a valid point. You do seem to cop a condescending attitude towards him, not to mention the ethnocentric amusement thing you have going. Freddie never really addresses anyone until they criticize him. He doesn't seem to be into antagonizing people. He's actually pretty mellow. You weren't on his radar. He's on yours.

[hefzfavebunii]

LMAO...OK...I cave. You're right...and I've simply got to come to terms with it so here's my mea culpa...

I'm on awe of you Freddie Gomez. Envious of a guy who can't decide if he's Puerto Rican or black...or both. A guy who cleans up after day rate hotel visitors, a dude who supplements his pultry income with food stamps. A guy with lots of sexual hang ups and no identy who trolls on a TS board, and whose only sexual activity is with himself. A guy who's never been on the other side of the Brooklyn Bridge... A worldly sap who by his own admission doesn't even know any white folks....shall I go on? You got the whole package dude. And as far as your body....checkin' dudes out ain't my thing , but I'm sure there's plenty of takers on here for ya...but you look small to me...like 5'7"....real light in the ass, with a wise mouth and not much backin' it up....the first guy to look for the door when the big boyz throw down...and that kid of yours....are you supportin' him...or am I?
You're a class act Freddie. Someone I aspire to be like.......:Bowdown:



LMAOOOOOOOO :Bowdown: :jerkoff

[Ineeda SM]

LMAO...OK...I cave. You're right...and I've simply got to come to terms with it so here's my mea culpa...

I'm on awe of you Freddie Gomez. Envious of a guy who can't decide if he's Puerto Rican or black...or both. A guy who cleans up after day rate hotel visitors, a dude who supplements his pultry income with food stamps. A guy with lots of sexual hang ups and no identy who trolls on a TS board, and whose only sexual activity is with himself. A guy who's never been on the other side of the Brooklyn Bridge... A worldly sap who by his own admission doesn't even know any white folks....shall I go on? You got the whole package dude. And as far as your body....checkin' dudes out ain't my thing , but I'm sure there's plenty of takers on here for ya...but you look small to me...like 5'7"....real light in the ass, with a wise mouth and not much backin' it up....the first guy to look for the door when the big boyz throw down...and that kid of yours....are you supportin' him...or am I?
You're a class act Freddie. Someone I aspire to be like.......:Bowdown:

You guys just love to insult by accusing others of doing exactly what you do. And the wise cracks about who supports his kid was totally uncalled for and out of line. What an ignorant fucking loser you are.

[TRANSEXUAL TOP BELICE]

You guys just love to insult by accusing others of doing exactly what you do. And the wise cracks about who supports his kid was totally uncalled for and out of line. What an ignorant fucking loser you are.



Yess darling
he is a big time HIPROCAT

[amberskyi]

Amber, you are a wise lady way beyond your years. You understand not only yourself but many of us fellas as well.

lol...i wouldnt say all that but im a cross between a hopeless romantic and someone whos been around the block too many times..its a bit frustrating

[Silcc69]

i wasnt talking literally using but at the same time you have to admit how fucked up it is for you to be able to sleep with a particular person but never actually entertain the possibility for more.its a bit dehumanizing and humiliating....your good enough for me to bone but not to care about???
atleast when im escorting i can put everything in the context of a fantasy.im providing a service.where as if i was to sleep with someone like you (no offence mate) i would feel less than afterwards...its a very hurtful thing the day you realize that most men will never take you seriously not because of who you are as a person but because of what you were born.
so instead of getting all depressed and suicidal, im screaming with my middle fingers in the air FUCK YOU PAY ME! lmaoooooo

LOL if you ever come back to the Ville, we can go to eat on me :)

[bte]

LMAO...OK...I cave. You're right...and I've simply got to come to terms with it so here's my mea culpa...

I'm on awe of you Freddie Gomez. Envious of a guy who can't decide if he's Puerto Rican or black...or both. A guy who cleans up after day rate hotel visitors, a dude who supplements his pultry income with food stamps. A guy with lots of sexual hang ups and no identity who trolls on a TS board, and whose only sexual activity is with himself. A guy who's never been on the other side of the Brooklyn Bridge... A worldly sap who by his own admission doesn't even know any white folks....shall I go on? You got the whole package dude. And as far as your body....checkin' dudes out ain't my thing , but I'm sure there's plenty of takers on here for ya...but you look small to me...like 5'7"....real light in the ass, with a wise mouth and not much backin' it up....the first guy to look for the door when the big boyz throw down...and that kid of yours....are you supportin' him...or am I?
You're a class act Freddie. Someone I aspire to be like.......:Bowdown:

Come on dude how you gonna say that when almost 95% of the guys on this board do so with no identity. At least gives kudos to Freddie for showing his picture on the site. Most of the guys on this site don't even do that.

Also as someone else said before, the kid comment was out of line.

[Dino Velvet]

lol...i wouldnt say all that but im a cross between a hopeless romantic and someone whos been around the block too many times..its a bit frustrating

Always keep hope alive, Amber. I admire the way you think. You'll be just fine.

[Erika1487]

He had a valid point. You do seem to cop a condescending attitude towards him, not to mention the ethnocentric amusement thing you have going. Freddie never really addresses anyone until they criticize him. He doesn't seem to be into antagonizing people. He's actually pretty mellow. You weren't on his radar. He's on yours.

:???: Freddie is always yapping on this board, he often throws as much as he receives.

[FreddieGomez]

Nothing you say really bothers me though.

it's just an internet forum.

it's not that serious.

[FreddieGomez]

the difference is you have and would consider dating a gg but you would never consider that with a ts,let alone be seen with one.so dont give me that bull

you don't know.

i'd possibly date one provided she was totally passable.

[hefzfavebunii]

you don't know.

i'd possibly date one provided she was totally passable.

There isn't a single girl in the world who is totally passable to everyone. Every girl has at least ONE feature that makes them clockable to someone.

[runningdownthatdream]

There isn't a single girl in the world who is totally passable to everyone. Every girl has at least ONE feature that makes them clockable to someone.

......yeah and that's not unique to TS.......lots of GGs whose outer appearance and mannerisms can appear masculine.

[FreddieGomez]

There isn't a single girl in the world who is totally passable to everyone. Every girl has at least ONE feature that makes them clockable to someone.

this chick is passable and looks similar to gg's i date.

nobody would know

Gisele Xtrava Called Out At The Rumble Ball - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR30qFlbocE&feature=related)

[Dino Velvet]

Freddie, if you found a TS that you liked and was passable and started dating would you allow her to tell your friends the truth? I have never dated a TS myself.

[FreddieGomez]

Freddie, if you found a TS that you liked and was passable and started dating would you allow her to tell your friends the truth? I have never dated a TS myself.

not my friends, no

[Dino Velvet]

not my friends, no

I'm a real mess. That's why I pay for it. That's probably how I should be with T-Girls. I date and have relationships with GGs and plan on marrying one.

[onmyknees]

He had a valid point. You do seem to cop a condescending attitude towards him, not to mention the ethnocentric amusement thing you have going. Freddie never really addresses anyone until they criticize him. He doesn't seem to be into antagonizing people. He's actually pretty mellow. You weren't on his radar. He's on yours.


What valid point is that Nicole? That he posts a pic of himself? LMAO....You more than anyone are constantly lamenting what a cesspool this place is filled with sexually frustrated shut ins and shit heads. And in many cases I agree...So why would I share anything under those circumstances? I don't feel any need to put any of my personal info on social media, and I sure the fuck don't feel compelled to share it here. When I have something personal to say to someone...it's done by PM. I don't put my shit out in the street...Maybe that has something to do with maturity...maybe just a personal choice. I'm not making my living off this shit Nicole, just passing some time, and flirting with some gurls. I've met some ladies on here, they respect my privacy, and I thier's.
Freddie isn't my worst person in the world, but he plays the moron...the only question remains how much of it is shtick , and how much is real.

[Mayrah]

not my friends, no

Why are you so scared of the truth?

[FreddieGomez]

Why are you so scared of the truth?

it's none of their business.

[hefzfavebunii]

this chick is passable and looks similar to gg's i date.

nobody would know

Gisele Xtrava Called Out At The Rumble Ball - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR30qFlbocE&feature=related)

To YOU she is passable, but like I said somebody out there would clock her.

[hefzfavebunii]

Why are you so scared of the truth?

Girl he's a coward and a misogynist. Any girl looking for a real man would pass him right over period. A six pack and a cute face only gets you so far. Confidence, honesty and integrity are what completes the package for me.

[Nicole Dupre]

I give major kudos to Freddie for showing his face too. And there are worse things than being opinionated or making fun of people. OMK is a bigot, a closet case, and a liar, and he seems like dumb white trash.Those are all traits that I find to be repulsive. He told me in a PM when he got here that he wants my cock, yet he never discusses wanting to suck dick on the forum. Wtf? How crude and low class can you get? And then publicly all he does is antagonize anyone who's not right wing lunatic. It's beyond tacky. And let's face it. He's a cocksucker, and most Republicans would love to lynch him over it. He's a hypocrite. I HATE that.

[Nicole Dupre]

OMK, you completely disappointed the hell out of me with your politics and calling me a "lib" etc. You really need to learn to leave people alone.

[amberskyi]

this chick is passable and looks similar to gg's i date.

nobody would know

Gisele Xtrava Called Out At The Rumble Ball - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR30qFlbocE&feature=related)

lol do you know how tall she's is? shes around my height

[flabbybody]

she's a legend

[tsdvdman]

she's a legend
Yes she is..and very beautiful I might add. Seen her numerous times at Sunny's parties. A little too skinny for my overall tastebuds but she is definitely one of the NYC ts legends

[Tyler___Durden]

by amberskyi
the difference is you have and would consider dating a gg but you would never consider that with a ts,let alone be seen with one.so dont give me that bull

you don't know.
i'd possibly date one provided she was totally passable.
Yep. I agree with you I wouldn't date another Ts person
if she didn't appear to the outside world to be just another Bio-woman.

Personal choice 'n all that.

[Tyler___Durden]

There isn't a single girl in the world who is totally passable to everyone. Every girl has at least ONE feature that makes them clockable to someone.

In the case of a Pre-op M2F woman,
a penis?

[Tyler___Durden]

Freddie, if you found a TS that you liked and was passable and started dating would you allow her to tell your friends the truth? I have never dated a TS myself.

For all the personal cost that successful transition brings,
and where a high degree of being assumed to be a bio-woman, by the world and his wife.....
99% of us would never ever want that.
This would just NEVER OCCUR.

[Dino Velvet]

99% of us would never ever want that.
This would just NEVER OCCUR.

I hope not. You should never have to lie about that in a relationship. If a man can't be honest with that you shouldn't be with him.

[fred41]

I agree.
There's a huge difference between a man keeping quiet about a partner's "secret" because she doesn't want anyone to know... and a man who could never admit the truth once the secret is out... for whatever reason. Trust is a huge issue in any partnership...if you can't trust a person to stand by you when the chips are down...then that person isn't even reliable as a friend, never mind a lover.

[hefzfavebunii]

For all the personal cost that successful transition brings,
and where a high degree of being assumed to be a bio-woman, by the world and his wife.....
99% of us would never ever want that.
This would just NEVER OCCUR.

Right, you only want the finished product. Forget about a girl just starting or partially through who cannot afford surgeries yet. She's supposed to suck dick or fuck for the cash to support herself and her transition while you sit around posing, thinking you're cute and compelling like mommy told you that you were. Then once she's "100% passable" she's supposed to pursue you, because God forbid a man pursue a woman (dudes are the new bitches) and then she's supposed to quit escorting or sex work because you couldn't date a woman like that.
And then you get to suck dick and get fucked and it's your big secret that nobody knows. If you admit it or not, this is most guys fantasy on here.
Then if she ever gets clocked, like my friend did at a bar when the guy she was talking to's friends said "Thats a dude!!" she gets punched in the face by the guy and he runs out. Thats what tranny chasers do! Thats why I'd NEVER mess with one at all!!

[amberskyi]

Right, you only want the finished product. Forget about a girl just starting or partially through who cannot afford surgeries yet. She's supposed to suck dick or fuck for the cash to support herself and her transition while you sit around posing, thinking you're cute and compelling like mommy told you that you were. Then once she's "100% passable" she's supposed to pursue you, because God forbid a man pursue a woman (dudes are the new bitches) and then she's supposed to quit escorting or sex work because you couldn't date a woman like that.
And then you get to suck dick and get fucked and it's your big secret that nobody knows. If you admit it or not, this is most guys fantasy on here.
Then if she ever gets clocked, like my friend did at a bar when the guy she was talking to's friends said "Thats a dude!!" she gets punched in the face by the guy and he runs out. Thats what tranny chasers do! Thats why I'd NEVER mess with one at all!!


lmaaaooooo @ this whole post girl.this shit is soooooo true.
sorry about your friend though.i woulda punched dude right back in his mug,grabbed my balls and walked out....

[hefzfavebunii]

lmaaaooooo @ this whole post girl.this shit is soooooo true.
sorry about your friend though.i woulda punched dude right back in his mug,grabbed my balls and walked out....

You know it as well as I do! I believe we are special souls, we live in a world driven by fear and run by cowards and control freaks. We tend to attract the least common denominator as far as men are concerned, but if we are special souls it stands to reason there are men who are special too! They certainly don't hang out here though. It's like walking into a swamp of predators, pedophiles, cowards and sissies logging on here.

[Silcc69]

this chick is passable and looks similar to gg's i date.

nobody would know

Gisele Xtrava Called Out At The Rumble Ball - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR30qFlbocE&feature=related)

Wait I thought you liked hips and thighs she has no hips and thighs though.

[Nicole Dupre]

It's all moot. No one here will ever be in a healthy relationship with a pre-op TS anyway. Freddie's just more honest. But Dino will never have a GF of any kind. Neither will OMK. Most guys on HA are damaged goods. Any guy who spends time here has serious issues. The only guys with a glimmer of hope might fall in love with a pre-op DESPITE the cock. But they wouldn't ever hang out here. You guys are all closet cases to one degree or another. If you weren't, then why are you here? Wouldn't you be on a TS dating site?

[FreddieGomez]

Wait I thought you liked hips and thighs she has no hips and thighs though.

she looks good that way.

most trannies who get hips look peculiar because it's like 2 beach balls on pencil legs. genetic women don't look like that.

[FreddieGomez]

It's all moot. No one here will ever be in a healthy relationship with a pre-op TS anyway. Freddie's just more honest. But Dino will never have a GF of any kind. Neither will OMK. Most guys on HA are damaged goods. Any guy who spends time here has serious issues. The only guys with a glimmer of hope might fall in love with a pre-op DESPITE the cock. But they wouldn't ever hang out here. You guys are all closet cases to one degree or another. If you weren't, then why are you here? Wouldn't you be on a TS dating site?

true for some dudes. i may post here quite frequently but i don't really chase after anybody. i just like to conversate.

[Tyler___Durden]

Originally Posted by Tyler___Durden View Post
For all the personal cost that successful transition brings,
and where a high degree of being assumed to be a bio-woman, by the world and his wife.....
99% of us would never ever want that.
This would just NEVER OCCUR.

Right, you only want the finished product. Forget about a girl just starting or partially through who cannot afford surgeries yet. She's supposed to suck dick or fuck for the cash to support herself and her transition while you sit around posing, thinking you're cute and compelling like mommy told you that you were. Then once she's "100% passable" she's supposed to pursue you, because God forbid a man pursue a woman (dudes are the new bitches) and then she's supposed to quit escorting or sex work because you couldn't date a woman like that.
And then you get to suck dick and get fucked and it's your big secret that nobody knows. If you admit it or not, this is most guys fantasy on here.
Then if she ever gets clocked, like my friend did at a bar when the guy she was talking to's friends said "Thats a dude!!" she gets punched in the face by the guy and he runs out. Thats what tranny chasers do! Thats why I'd NEVER mess with one at all!!
:roll:
(grin) Er, I'm a trans woman.
The point you make though is 100% spot on with most men into trans.
They want the 'finished product', so to speak.
A few friends of mine are in long term relationships, where their men started dating them during their very early transition phase. That bit where we look out of place, we stick out. We don't 'Pass' {I hate that term. The society shit that holds us to some hypothetical standard of femininity} Anyway, a guy prepared to step out with us in those early days is a real man.
That's a big deal on both sides.
And if right, can bring a lifelong relationship.
I wrote this on another forum but it goes right to the heart and agrees with your spot-on observation:

See the fabulous trans-women on here and other sites?
Well firstly, most trans don't look anything like that.
We actually cover the full spectrum of appearance,
just as “Day-One” women do.
Old, young, fat, thin, ugly, beautiful, average, (actually, a lot of average :-))
Plus the big deal-killer for most men: We will have some remaining male characteristics. Obviously this will vary hugely in obviousness from trans person to transperson, but there is always something.
Oh, just say you did date one of the top trans models.
You ok with her plucking prickly hair from her jaw line, some mornings?
Just asking.

Right you guys, here are some of the hard facts about us.
Transsexual females are very rare.
I think numbers come in at around one in six thousand people.
Oh, that's for both pre and post op transsexual females-
Of all ages and looks.
So the chances of you meeting any transsexual female, pre or post op
are pretty rare.
Factor in your Trans-date wish-list (in no particular order)
We Pass {can you handle your family / friends / work colleagues knowing 'That thing'?}
This objectifies us in itself, but I'll come back to that later. Very few trans women truly pass (as in 98%+ of the time)
We Look attractive / very attractive
We are single
And open to the possibility of an “interaction”, from casual date to a lifetime partner

My friend, you are looking at a very tiny demographic of people you would consider dating.

Trans porn is a fabricated fantasy.
In real life we have bad hair days, sometimes our skin is yuk.
Oh & when we go to bed, most of the time we wear flannel snuggy pants and tops and woolen socks.
The sussys are for shoots or a special treat for our partner.
And partner....A high % of trans women identify as gay.
That means for a lot of trans-women, unless you are female, it's just not gonna happen!

Next,
What exactly are you looking for?
“I want to date a hot shemale”
Well the first thing is that your sentence seems to show a full intent of
sexually objectifying us rather than looking upon us as people.

Now early transitioners are cool about that. It's a validation thing.
“You're a straight guy, you want to fuck me”
“Therefore, I must be a woman”
After a while we get an internal self assurance and then neither want or seek a validation fuck.
That means your desire for us, on it's own, is meaningless..
{We get lots and lots of interested men, all the time}

So, what are you bringing to the party?
I'd think about your appearance and social approach.
Be interesting and engaging.

Having a transsexual history for most of us is not something we are particularly happy about. A suitor wanting to date us specifically because of that very thing we generally loath about ourselves, is just not a good thing.
{It's a bit like you saying:”You suffer from deep suicidal depression, I like that in a woman, lets date”}
We see ourselves as female, which of course we are.
It would be nice if a person wishes to date us for who we are as a person rather than because we are trans.

[Nicole Dupre]

true for some dudes. i may post here quite frequently but i don't really chase after anybody. i just like to conversate.
I didn't call you a chaser, Freddie. lol But you would date Gizelle X? C'mon. She's an Xtravaganza. Their T is very public, whether she get's clocked or not; their House is LGBT royalty, pretty much. But you would date any pre op? No way. No girl would deal with being trapped in the closet as your dirty lil' secret. I think you can get a GF, yes. Most guys here are too weird to even date a GG. But it would never be a TS GF for you; not one with healthy self esteem. I don't see it happening. I respect you for being honest, but guys like you are not BF material for us.

[Nicole Dupre]

You guys can enjoy your porn and your escorts, but let's can the bullshit. There are no Prince Charmings hanging out in a zoo like HA.

[Silcc69]

I didn't call you a chaser, Freddie. lol But you would date Gizelle X? C'mon. She's an Xtravaganza. Their T is very public, whether she get's clocked or not; their House is LGBT royalty, pretty much. But you would date any pre op? No way. No girl would deal with being trapped in the closet as your dirty lil' secret. I think you can get a GF, yes. Most guys here are too weird to even date a GG. But it would never be a TS GF for you; not one with healthy self esteem. I don't see it happening. I respect you for being honest, but guys like you are not BF material for us.

Well he's in NY and there really isn't a shortage of cute trans up there. Down where I stay at in Nashville it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack.


she looks good that way.

most trannies who get hips look peculiar because it's like 2 beach balls on pencil legs. genetic women don't look like that.

LOL man u flip flop to much. You was talkin about Kelly and slender body but like Gizelle who has an equally slender body.

[Ineeda SM]

It's all moot. No one here will ever be in a healthy relationship with a pre-op TS anyway. Freddie's just more honest. But Dino will never have a GF of any kind. Neither will OMK. Most guys on HA are damaged goods. Any guy who spends time here has serious issues. The only guys with a glimmer of hope might fall in love with a pre-op DESPITE the cock. But they wouldn't ever hang out here. You guys are all closet cases to one degree or another. If you weren't, then why are you here? Wouldn't you be on a TS dating site?

Aww c'mon Nicole. I am in a healthy relationship with a pre-op TS. And it is NOT despite of her cock. Her cock is part of her just like her nose. And I love all of her parts equally.

I hang out here to talk to people that won't judge me for my sexuality. This is just another open forum for discussion with others. And I have made some friends here including my GF, so it was worth it.

[amberskyi]

she looks good that way.

most trannies who get hips look peculiar because it's like 2 beach balls on pencil legs. genetic women don't look like that.

true..i dont have alot of hips just a bunch of ass lol...i refuse to get pumped

[FreddieGomez]

true..i dont have alot of hips just a bunch of ass lol...i refuse to get pumped

i prefer a tranny who isn't all pumped and more natural.

[Nicole Dupre]

Aww c'mon Nicole. I am in a healthy relationship with a pre-op TS. And it is NOT despite of her cock. Her cock is part of her just like her nose. And I love all of her parts equally.

I hang out here to talk to people that won't judge me for my sexuality. This is just another open forum for discussion with others. And I have made some friends here including my GF, so it was worth it.
You're not a closet case like the majority of guys here. I do applaud that. But you told me that you see all M2F TS as men, and that you consider having sex with them to be gay sex. I don't know any TS that consider themselves to be men. That alone makes your relationship dysfunctional imo. I mean, I couldn't date a guy who yhought of me as a man. I already discussed this with you. You consider yourself bi and I consider myself to be straight. You think being intersexed is all bullshit. I don't. Also, you are very much into cock. If this person had no cock, would you even date them?

Anyway, personally, I don't date clients or guys into TS porn. Imo that means you're cock-obsessed. That's fine, but I'm not dating a guy like that.

[Ineeda SM]

You're not a closet case like the majority of guys here. I do applaud that. But you told me that you see all M2F TS as men, and that you consider having sex with them to be gay sex. I don't know any TS that consider themselves to be men. That alone makes your relationship dysfunctional imo. I mean, I couldn't date a guy who yhought of me as a man. I already discussed this with you. You consider yourself bi and I consider myself to be straight. You think being intersexed is all bullshit. I don't. Also, you are very much into cock. If this person had no cock, would you even date them?

Anyway, personally, I don't date clients or guys into TS porn. Imo that means you're cock-obsessed. That's fine, but I'm not dating a guy like that.

Nicole you still misunderstand everything we talked about a few months ago. All of that was about biology only, and I was correct in everything I said. I do not think of TS as men. My relationship is very healthy indeed. Even she understands what I mean. And to answer your question: Yes I would feel the same about her if she had no cock. I love here for her. Remember, I like GG too. It is not what's between her legs that captured my heart. She is the sweetest person I have ever met, inside and out.

Please read my last 2 posts (#142 & #144) with Amber in this thread. I think it better explains how I feel very clearly.
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=63903

[Nicole Dupre]

You were pretty emphatic with me. I told you my hormones were always messed up and that I had small breasts when I was 12, and that my endo believed I was intersexed, and that a karotype (sp?) Test would reveal it for sure. I said that made me a freak, gender-wise, and not quite "male". I told you I know wbaf internal and, external plumbing says, but that I had other things going on. You insisted that biologically I'm male. I said I'm not quite male. You insisted that sex with me is homosexual sex, even if I was post op. I disagreed. What am I missing? Lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Ok. I read it and I still think you're patronizing us. I wouldn't date you. I still think you shouldn't be staring at dick shots. I mean, you have every right to. But that would bug me if I dated you. Not out of jealousy. I would just think it was too obsessive.

[Ineeda SM]

OK Nicole. What ever you say. One thing we all know about you is, once you get an idea planted in your mind, there is nothing anyone can do or say to change it. I hate to say it, but you are starting to remind me of OMK. No matter what you say to him, it doesn't matter. He is stuck in first gear and refuses to shift. That is how you are acting now.

And what is wrong with admiring the beauty and sexyness of the girls here? There's no harm in looking. My GF is often next to me looking too, like right now. But she and I are monogomous with each other. That is what counts.

Your assesment of me is so wrong, I don't know where to begin. So I will just let it go. Think what you wish of me, but you are dead wrong. And it's your loss because I thought you were one of the more sane people here. A bit arrogant sometimes, but usually fair.

[Nicole Dupre]

What the hell do I care what you and your GF do? Sorry that I don't care about porn. I like fucking, not pictures. Wtf? Why are you judging me? And don't tell me I don't change my opinions. You were the one foaming at the mouth at Erika. The problem is you think I have some big emotional investment made in what I say here. I don't. Look at yourself, arguing politics like a loon with OMK. And you and your GF can say, agree on, and look at w/e you want. Why must i agree with it? Why must i care? You're a trip, dude. I can't even be intersexed in your world. *smfh

[Nicole Dupre]

And don't hand me this "arrogant but fair" crap. I'm arrogant and UNfair. There's nothing to be fair about here. This is all very cut throat and sleazy. None of the models were paid what they're worth. This place was built on hatred, desperation, vanity, and the lowest common denominator. You wouldn't want to know the tragic truthes behind your wank off material. There's no sisterly love here, and there's no fatherly guidance, unless your father molests you and pimps you out for chump change. Unless you have a site someone can click on and pay to join, you're here because you're a degenerate of some kind. Don't hand me any cornball love stories. I don't believe them for a second. There are too many scummy scenarios unfolding right in front of you for you to romanticize any of this and not be brain dead.

[Ineeda SM]

What the hell do I care what you and your GF do? Sorry that I don't care about porn. I like fucking, not pictures. Wtf? Why are you judging me? And don't tell me I don't change my opinions. You were the one foaming at the mouth at Erika. The problem is you think I have some big emotional investment made in what I say here. I don't. Look at yourself, arguing politics like a loon with OMK. And you and your GF can say, agree on, and look at w/e you want. Why must i agree with it? Why must i care? You're a trip, dude. I can't even be intersexed in your world. *smfh

Yup! You are right. You are always right. You can never be wrong. That's what makes you, YOU. YOU WIN!!! Pat yourself on the back.

So much hate and anger in one person. So sad, but explains a lot.

[Nicole Dupre]

Anger? Angry about what? Again, I have no emotional investment in anyone here besides my webmaster because he's a personal friend. I have no need to be right about anything here. I embrace being proven wrong and possibly learning something. But you wouldn't even approach the topic of being intersexed. Lol Well ok. Lol Do you see me selling you on the concept. So what are you getting all worked up about? You have a GF now. Well go bang her or something. Arguing with a woman who you're not even sleeping with is just madness. Especially if you've got me so figured ou. Take a xanax or take up drinking. Lol

[tsmandy]

girl what the hell you going on about? You make more with webcam and your site than most escorts.

Escorting won't make you like boys more. :)

[Odelay]

I don't feel any need to put any of my personal info on social media, and I sure the fuck don't feel compelled to share it here. When I have something personal to say to someone...it's done by PM. I don't put my shit out in the street...Maybe that has something to do with maturity...maybe just a personal choice.

Man, I couldn't be more opposite. I don't PM any of the girls. PM'ing has a real chaser-ish feel to me. I put my thoughts and feelings and humor out here in the forums. Most of the time it crashes with no replies but every once in awhile I have a moment. Freddie is a bit of a dork, but like Nicole, I have to respect him for showing face. Kinda makes up for all the clocking threads he starts. lol

[ed_jaxon]

Man, I couldn't be more opposite. I don't PM any of the girls. PM'ing has a real chaser-ish feel to me. I put my thoughts and feelings and humor out here in the forums. Most of the time it crashes with no replies but every once in awhile I have a moment. Freddie is a bit of a dork, but like Nicole, I have to respect him for showing face. Kinda makes up for all the clocking threads he starts. lol

You got at least one friend here Odelay.

[Odelay]

^^^^^^^^
Yeah, I know Ed. Thanks. You boys really taking it on the road to Toronto? How was the party in Chicago on Saturday?

[ed_jaxon]

Sidney and the other babes were there

I will post a few pics soon

[ed_jaxon]

The boys are hooking up Saturday before tranny Awards out in LA.

Drinking, gambling and whatever else comes up.

[Nicole Dupre]

Man, I couldn't be more opposite. I don't PM any of the girls. PM'ing has a real chaser-ish feel to me. I put my thoughts and feelings and humor out here in the forums. Most of the time it crashes with no replies but every once in awhile I have a moment. Freddie is a bit of a dork, but like Nicole, I have to respect him for showing face. Kinda makes up for all the clocking threads he starts. lol
I have pretty interesting conversations with people privately here. It's on the forum where the trolls often fuck things up.Case in point, OMK came off as truly sad when he wrote me privately, when he blurted out something as lame as "I'd sure love to suck your dick someday".Well isn't that just special. lol

But someone like Ben for instance, I can exchange ideas with and not feel like some tard is going to wander in from left field and talk about his dick or his gun collection.

[onmyknees]

Man, I couldn't be more opposite. I don't PM any of the girls. PM'ing has a real chaser-ish feel to me. I put my thoughts and feelings and humor out here in the forums. Most of the time it crashes with no replies but every once in awhile I have a moment. Freddie is a bit of a dork, but like Nicole, I have to respect him for showing face. Kinda makes up for all the clocking threads he starts. lol


your choice dude. I've never had any feedback from anyone I've ever PM'd , or who has PM'd me that there was some stalking/chasing overtones. In fact it's just the opposite. I'd share them with you, but then that wouldn't make them private now....would it? lol Why the fuck should I share a personal conversation or thought with all these peeping toms? That strikes me as desperate, and it's not like we're in a small circle of friends here...Do you tell your date how you'd like to have sex that night loud enough so the other people in the restaurant can hear? So where's your picture if you're not into being in the shadows, and believe in letting all your shit out there?
So if Natina posts a picture, he gets some cred from you? Makes no sense to me, but to each his own. I give credit to Freddie for noting, but don't let me stop you !

[Odelay]

your choice dude. I've never had any feedback from anyone I've ever PM'd , or who has PM'd me that there was some stalking/chasing overtones. In fact it's just the opposite. I'd share them with you, but then that wouldn't make them private now....would it? lol Why the fuck should I share a personal conversation or thought with all these peeping toms? That strikes me as desperate, and it's not like we're in a small circle of friends here...Do you tell your date how you'd like to have sex that night loud enough so the other people in the restaurant can hear? So where's your picture if you're not into being in the shadows, and believe in letting all your shit out there?
So if Natina posts a picture, he gets some cred from you? Makes no sense to me, but to each his own. I give credit to Freddie for noting, but don't let me stop you !
I've posted my pics in a couple of places. The one obvious place is the thread where the author challenged guys to post their pics. Anyone who wants to find it, can. As for your other questions... typical OMK. Get all angry at the poster, infer a bunch of shit that he/she never said, and then go off on a series of tangents as if you're actually addressing the poster's real comments. I've learned not to take the bait.

[tsadriana]

in the end u want to be a escort or a singer?tell to mama to put in her diary ...lol