AVN Rapes Transsexuals of Dignity and Appreciation

[Brittany St Jordan]

<strong>In regards to:</strong> The demeaning attitude and lack of concern for the transsexual genre of the adult industry from AVN

<em>The opinions and ideas expressed hereafter are those of transsexual adult performer Brittany St Jordan and do not necessarily reflect those of any business entity which she may or may not be associated with.</em>

This message has nothing to do with me winning or losing at AVN this year. Yes, it was great being nominated for Transsexual (TS) Performer of the Year but I knew there were other girls more deserving of the award. For this reason I was not expecting to walk away with an award this year. The driving force behind the writing, sending, and posting of this message is a compilation of various occurrences over the 2012 AVN award season. I personally try to refrain from interjecting myself into the post-award discussions of what was right and/or wrong with the current year's outcomes. However, since I was a nominee this year I had a much more vested interest in the AVN awards for the TS categories and feel that a few things need to be said.

From the moment the nominations for the TS categories came out there was a large portion of people wondering how Madison Montag was nominated. She is known in the TS world as being difficult to work with, unappealing and not well received by fans. For these very reasons she has had very little work this past year and was rumored that she announced she was retiring from adult entertainment after only being around for a little over a year. What about Sarina Valentina, Foxxy, Liberty Harkness, or any other girl who is actually embraced and recognized as top talent in the TS genre? Why were these girls overlooked by AVN for someone that is an outcast from the industry which she publicly and vehemently put down on a regular basis in an attempt to improve her own non-existent public image? ( Madison Montag on Sister Dick Radio (http://soundcloud.com/sisterdickradio/madison-montag))

The 2012 TS Performer of the Year was once again Baily Jay, who was the winner of the 2011 AVN as well. What bothers me about this decision is the fact that since winning last year all Baily has done is gone silent online with almost no promotion or public interaction and only posts POV scenes of her and her boyfriend performing together. Fans on TS forums and various web sites who used to love Baily have been quite vocal this year about how bad her content is and that she is no longer the star she once was. There were plenty of girls on the list of nominees who had produced enough quality work this year that Baily should not have even been nominated again. A sympathy nomination for simply being a previous winner does little to add credit to the work other TS girls have done that clearly outshine Baily Jay and her POV only site.

Throughout the AVN Expo Miss Montag was often seen with people said to be associated with AEBN, who also happened to be one of the largest marketing contributors to the AVN events this year. So it is no surprise that when you visit the AEBN Shemale VOD site (http://vod.shemalepayperview.com/dispatcher/frontDoor?&amp;refid=AEBNXXXXXX) there is a banner and background with Madison, who I remind you is despised by almost everyone in the TS genre, boldly displayed for all to see. There is also another TS performer sharing the the banner and background space there with Madison. That would coincidentally be your 2012 AVN TS Performer of the Year Baily Jay. Am I inferring that both Madison Montag's nomination and Baily's win were somehow influenced by the marketing power AEBN? Yes, I most certainly am. I do not have concrete proof like emails or text messages but when you see the theses two TS girls, who's legitimacy in the awards is beyond questionable, proudly displayed on a major monetary contributor's web site it does raise a lot of suspicion. Was it swaying the judges, tampering with votes or just outright wholesale purchase for both girls in order to increase traffic and revenue to AEBN? We most likely won't ever know.

With decisions like this being made it is really disheartening for the TS girls who work hard and put out quality content for various companies year after year to even feel that they have a fair chance of being selected as the top performer of the TS genre. Where is the incentive to be the best when the final decision is either based on business politics or poor ethics that do nothing to further the TS genre but only increase the flow of money to certain people who are more than likely absolutely clueless when it comes to anything dealing with the TS side of adult entertainment? Hopefully in future years there will be more oversight and quality control over the TS categories and not simply used as a bartering system for monetary gain. Maybe the system needs an audit of it's current ethics and practices so that these types of poor decisions won't be made again.

On to the next bullet point, TS performers being treated like second-class citizens in the world of adult entertainment. I often heard stories from people about how the adult world looks down on TS girls but I have met so many great people on all sides of the industry and didn't ever see it happen. That is until I was on the red carpet for this year's AVN award ceremony. Upon arriving there was a line of people waiting for their turn on the red carpet. It was a mix of fans and industry people from all sides. Then some of the bigger studios started showing up and were being taken right to the front of the line. This, in itself did not bother me. When someone behind me questioned the AVN employee ushering them in as to why they were going before everyone the response was "Nominees and presenters are getting to go to the front." Upon hearing his answer I politely notified him that myself and Jesse, who was with me, were both nominees for TS Performer of the Year. His response was, "Just wait your turn and you will get in there." So, both of us "nominees" waited with everyone else for three hours instead of getting the same courtesies extended to nominees who weren't TS performers.

Let me provide a brief history of AVN and their treatment of TS performers. For many years AVN did not even have a TS section of categories to vote on. That was until Joanna Jet got fed up with being ignored by an industry she was proudly a part of and felt that she, and the TS genre as a whole, deserved recognition from the top company presenting awards to adult performers for their accomplishments. Joanna's willingness to not take no for an answer led to AVN to finally including the TS genre amongst its awards and the main reason they are there today. This was a major step forward for the TS genre as a whole and major personal victory for Joanna, who is still known as one of the best and most influential TS stars in the adult industry.

This triumph has dwindled in current times however. Yes, there are TS categories to be voted on but there is one major flaw in the way the awards are presented. Any of the winners of any TS category are not given their awards at the actual AVN ceremony. Instead, what happens, is at the end of evening the names are listed on a screen for people to view as they are leaving and the award is then shipped to the winner. Yes, that is correct, AVN considers TS performers, producers, and distributors to be fetish related and therefore not included in the actual ceremony with the rest of their counterparts amongst the adult industry. So according to this line of thought, anyone regarded as TS related in the adult industry are not considered to be on par with everyone else. As long as this is the policy no TS performer or producer will ever be given given the same recognition as everyone else for doing the same, and sometimes more, work than their counterparts in the other genres of adult entertainment.

When it comes to working, TS talent have to perform on the same levels as the guys and girls who are in other areas of adult entertainment and sometimes are required to play both roles at the same time. Meaning that they have to be the pretty girl but also retain an erection and produce a popshot. Producers of TS content also put in the same level of professionalism into shooting, editing and distributing the content as they do straight and gay releases. So if the TS talent and producers are working just as hard on their content as everyone else what will it take for them to get the same level of recognition?

This is 2012 not 1985 and TS adult entertainment should no longer be the taboo bottom of the bucket industry sideshow that AVN makes them out to be. Any TS performer should feel that they have a shot at being recognized for their efforts just as any other talent at the AVN ceremony. Producers of TS entertainment and non-TS talent should not feel like they will be looked down on for working outside the box and creating great pieces of work with talented individuals. AVN really needs to reevaluate the way they view and present TS performers and producers to the word at large and be true industry professionals in regards to the way the TS categories are treated from here on out. If the people who are picking nominees and judging the TS categories are clueless about TS entertainment they should be replaced by people who can give a better informed decision based upon first-hand knowledge and not press releases or paychecks.

If you feel that TS performers and producers of TS content deserve the same level of respect as everyone else at the AVN awards then please contact Mr Mark Kearns (mark.kearns@avn.com) at AVN and let him know your thoughts and feelings. Please forward, repost, tweet and any other method of communication you can think of to spread this message so that we can spread the word about the AVN and their lack of respect for the TS genre of the adult industry.

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[MrsKellyPierce]

Good read!

[TempestTS]

Well written and nicely voiced concerns on valid points.

Id give you two thumbs up but you will appreciate metal horns up better

[theone1982]

Very interesting read. My big question is, isn't the transsexual genre one of the biggest moneymakers in the porn industry, that's what I've heard a lot, at least. If so, why isn't the genre given more respect in the industry as a whole? I would think that money would trump any ignorant mentalities about the genre in the industry.

[Brittany St Jordan]

Very interesting read. My big question is, isn't the transsexual genre one of the biggest moneymakers in the porn industry, that's what I've heard a lot, at least. If so, why isn't the genre given more respect in the industry as a whole? I would think that money would trump any ignorant mentalities about the genre in the industry.

You would think so, but that isn't quite the way it is.

[TempestTS]

Very interesting read. My big question is, isn't the transsexual genre one of the biggest moneymakers in the porn industry, that's what I've heard a lot, at least. If so, why isn't the genre given more respect in the industry as a whole? I would think that money would trump any ignorant mentalities about the genre in the industry.

Despite the growing visibility and fan base TS Porn is still very small vs the mainstream of either straight or gay porn. All you have to do is look at the number of releases in TS vs either category and the number speak for themselves. The number of releases can be used as an indicator of the profitable fan base for a market segment. If you really want to work the numbers, just look at units sold... a main stream big studio title out sells any TS release many times over even if it cost more to produce.

We are still a Niche market but as Brittany so eloquently points out, we are not even given the respect that other Niche markets are given, and the treatment she describes is simply flagrantly rude in its dismissive nature and there is no call for that at all.

[giovanni_hotel]

Everything in life is politics and whose money is paying who to do what they want.

Bailey Jay shouldn't have won TPOTY, not hating.

There should be a greater fan component in who wins these awards IMO.

[Tara Emory]

Great read.

Though if thine eyes deceive me, I think I saw the word "ethics" in there somewhere.

And then thats I think my milk and cherrios came right out of my nose.

Give me a few minutes to recover...

-Tara

[Tara Emory]

ok.. cleaned up that mess on the floor..

yeah.. Ive been near this business enough to know there are no ethics, and advertising dollars will speak even when it comes to awards.

Ive been to AVN a number of times, felt totally out of place walking the convention floor dressed like a burlesque dancer, and then subsequently have vowed never to go anywhere near the awards ceremony itself until they can - at the very least - acknowledge the TS performer of the year or any TS awards on stage. I think last year they at least got Wendy Williams go be a presenter, but I wasn't personally there, so I have no idea if even the hetero-normative porn crowd was hostile but polite to even that happening.

Correct me if Im wrong, but aren't the gay awards done seperately, at the GayVNs?

-Tara

[JenniferParisHusband]

Tara, I don't know if the gay awards are done seperately, but perhaps TS awards should? My philosophy has always been when you don't get invited to the party, it's probably crap anyway and you're better off making your own.

I now have visions of a fany friendly Comic-con like expo in Vegas capped off with a Hung Angels awards ceremony, with community and industry voting, and proper respect. Someone make it happen, please!!!!

[TSMichelleAustin]

All awards even Gay, Tranny, etc are bias and political, all about money and power. It will always be that way!

Brittany has a great point and points it out well! At least give us trans performers respect.

[GroobySteven]

Excellent posting Brittany.
We stopped going years ago to the event - not allowing the TS model on stage is unforgiveable.

[putitinyou]

I'm sorry but not to be an ass what the fuck you bitching about it on a forum for. the main reason yall are not seen at the avn is because most of you except it. tell me if i am lying. ms jet took on the avn and tried to make yall equal but year after year yall just let the award bully yall into hiding.but what can you expect when most of the ts on film cut each other done year after year. if you really wanted a change then yall should all go up there and request it. but nahh you rather bitch about it on a forums. it takes action to get action.

[SammiValentine]

we can masturbate in the face of oppression

[BigDF]

I'm sorry but not to be an ass what the fuck you bitching about it on a forum for. the main reason yall are not seen at the avn is because most of you except it. tell me if i am lying. ms jet took on the avn and tried to make yall equal but year after year yall just let the award bully yall into hiding.but what can you expect when most of the ts on film cut each other done year after year. if you really wanted a change then yall should all go up there and request it. but nahh you rather bitch about it on a forums. it takes action to get action.Wow, what an intellect we have here. Go check out the membership stats on here sometime. This is one of the best places on the web to communicate to thousands of fans at the same time. This is taking action because it is communicating the message to the people who consume the pornography. This same article is posted in several other places than here. What Brittany has done here is take her case to the people, which is us the fans. :geek:

[GroobySteven]

Wow, what an intellect we have here. Go check out the membership stats on here sometime. This is one of the best places on the web to communicate to thousands of fans at the same time. This is taking action because it is communicating the message to the people who consume the pornography. This same article is posted in several other places than here. What Brittany has done here is take her case to the people, which is us the fans. :geek:

You could translate that post BigDF? It was all gibberish to me.

[MrsKellyPierce]

The problem is most girls have no dignity when it comes to AVN - AVN could call them men etc - as long as they win the award it's all good...


Too many are scared to speak out cause they don't want to lose their chance at winning.


They let a draq queen present, host the red carpet, and more. (ChiChi Larue)

But having a trans do those things is an outrage

And Brittany is being proactive posting this everywhere

She is telling the FANS to write in to AVN


Please write into Mark and let it be known you want better respect for the trans community!!

[putitinyou]

ahh fuck the fans bro. because more then half of you dudes wont sign something like a petition with your names on it. so the best way is for the ts actors to do something like demand they get there award on stage and stop taking it by mail.what i am talking about all the nom's say it together i want my award on stage or i dont want it at all.

o yeah seanchai stfu bro

[MrsKellyPierce]

ahh fuck the fans bro. because more then half of you dudes wont sign something like a petition with your names on it. so the best way is for the ts actors to do something like demand they get there award on stage and stop taking it by mail.what i am talking about all the nom's say it together i want my award on stage or i dont want it at all.

o yeah seanchai stfu bro
lmao is this Bizzy or whatever his name is

[mildcigar_2001]

I don't know about anyone else but I've always assumed that most of the awards shows are generally rigged (especially the ones involving porn). It is sad that someone is complaining that they didn't win a rigged contest. A semi-solution would be to have a more independant organization decide on the winners. However, if we can't seem to keep the dead from voting in Chicago in real elections, I doubt you can have "un-fixed" porn awards. I think the purpose of awards in general from porn to the Academy Awards is to move product rather than reward performers. I briefly dated a TS in Los Angeles who always used to complain that the TS beauty contests were fixed by club owners, etc. Everyone somehow expects "fairness" but we rarely receive it. I just figure that these awards shows are like pro-wrestling (that the results are arrived at in advance before the match even starts). It is unproductive to run around proclaiming life is unfair. Accept that as a base line and move on and enjoy your life. Don't worry about things that are of little consequence and can't be changed.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I don't know about anyone else but I've always assumed that most of the awards shows are generally rigged (especially the ones involving porn). It is sad that someone is complaining that they didn't win a rigged contest. A semi-solution would be to have a more independant organization decide on the winners. However, if we can't seem to keep the dead from voting in Chicago in real elections, I doubt you can have "un-fixed" porn awards. I think the purpose of awards in general from porn to the Academy Awards is to move product rather than reward performers. I briefly dated a TS in Los Angeles who always used to complain that the TS beauty contests were fixed by club owners, etc. Everyone somehow expects "fairness" but we rarely receive it. I just figure that these awards shows are like pro-wrestling (that the results are arrived at in advance before the match even starts). It is unproductive to run around proclaiming life is unfair. Accept that as a base line and move on and enjoy your life. Don't worry about things that are of little consequence and can't be changed.I think she is speaking on the unfairness of when it's announced and how you have to accept your award...

She didn't expect herself to win...

Skimming is not reading

[Brittany St Jordan]

I'm sorry but not to be an ass what the fuck you bitching about it on a forum for. the main reason yall are not seen at the avn is because most of you except it. tell me if i am lying. ms jet took on the avn and tried to make yall equal but year after year yall just let the award bully yall into hiding.but what can you expect when most of the ts on film cut each other done year after year. if you really wanted a change then yall should all go up there and request it. but nahh you rather bitch about it on a forums. it takes action to get action.

It was also mass emailed out to every contact I have in the adult business including both AVN and Xbiz. I posted it here so the fans can see exactly how the system works at AVN when it comes to the treatment and respect of TS performers and producers.

[GroobyKrissy]

A fascinating topic and kudos to Brittany St. Jordan for posting her opinions on the matter (to which I largely agree).

Just as a sidebar, where does this myth come from that the TS porn industry is generating income even close to the mainstream? Seriously, until it can post larger numbers, I doubt a company like AVN will change anything in the way it deals with the TS community. I think it is minutely encouraging to see TS DVD's and performers hawked in the AVN Magazine, sometimes with full page spreads.

Wasn't it Amy Daly who was sitting with an AVN rep or something at last year's Tranny Awards who didn't even know who she was or that she was nominated for last year's AVN's? When I heard that anecdote, I thought that was pretty eye-opening to the way AVN works.

Brittany... great post and looking forward to seeing if there are results from your (and hopefully others) efforts.

[Brittany St Jordan]

A fascinating topic and kudos to Brittany St. Jordan for posting her opinions on the matter (to which I largely agree).

Just as a sidebar, where does this myth come from that the TS porn industry is generating income even close to the mainstream? Seriously, until it can post larger numbers, I doubt a company like AVN will change anything in the way it deals with the TS community. I think it is minutely encouraging to see TS DVD's and performers hawked in the AVN Magazine, sometimes with full page spreads.

Wasn't it Amy Daly who was sitting with an AVN rep or something at last year's Tranny Awards who didn't even know who she was or that she was nominated for last year's AVN's? When I heard that anecdote, I thought that was pretty eye-opening to the way AVN works.

Brittany... great post and looking forward to seeing if there are results from your (and hopefully others) efforts.

It is the chicken or egg mystery. In order to get recognition you need to generate money. In order to generate money you need recognition. By not giving us the same level of recognition that the straight performers and producers get it deprives us a very large marketing and promotional markets. This does very little to get us out of the sideshow footnote and into the spotlight.

It would be great to see others join in and voice their opinion to AVN. Even if I am the lone crazy tranny then so be it. I don't think the rest of the TS performers like being a footnote any more than the rest of us. We bitch and complain about it all of the time but we don't ever confront AVN about it. So I have.

[GroobySteven]

A VERY big player in the adult industry actually emailed me BSJ's article a few hrs ago (I'd seen it already) so she's getting it out there.

[GroobyKrissy]

Dropping this in the post this AM Brittany! Hope this helps your efforts!

[Brittany St Jordan]

Dropping this in the post this AM Brittany! Hope this helps your efforts!

Thank you for your support Krissy!!!!

[AmyDaly]

I'm sorry but not to be an ass what the fuck you bitching about it on a forum for. the main reason yall are not seen at the avn is because most of you except it. tell me if i am lying. ms jet took on the avn and tried to make yall equal but year after year yall just let the award bully yall into hiding.but what can you expect when most of the ts on film cut each other done year after year. if you really wanted a change then yall should all go up there and request it. but nahh you rather bitch about it on a forums. it takes action to get action.

she sent this out to almost every media contact in the adult industry and posted this all over the place, smart guy...this will be up on blogs and all over the place today

[GroobySteven]

Is Mark Kearns even the editor there anymore? I thought it was Theo.
Rumour has that Manwin are the actual owners.

[Brittany St Jordan]

Is Mark Kearns even the editor there anymore? I thought it was Theo.
Rumour has that Manwin are the actual owners.

With the amount of people I sent the email to it really doesn't matter who gets their inbox flooded. The last I heard it was still Marc (a month ago) so I used him as the POC.

[BellaBellucci]

IMO, the negative statements made about Madison are purely opinion and serve to undermine that entire aspect of the argument.

As to the rest, there are so many ways I could go with it, but suffice it say, respecting ourselves will go a long way in proving that we deserve respect from everyone else. Remember that the next time you 'own' the word 'shemale,' or appear on Springer. Remember that when you work with producers who try to pass CD/TV people off as transsexuals.

If anyone feels that AVN treats us badly, they should boycott. There's always XBIZ. Let the free market do its job.

~BB~

[TsJizelle]

who else isn't included in the ceremonies???

[Jamie French]

Faxed and emailed a copy of the letter last night to Mark.

[iago_delgado]

A fascinating topic and kudos to Brittany St. Jordan for posting her opinions on the matter (to which I largely agree).

Just as a sidebar, where does this myth come from that the TS porn industry is generating income even close to the mainstream? Seriously, until it can post larger numbers, I doubt a company like AVN will change anything in the way it deals with the TS community. I think it is minutely encouraging to see TS DVD's and performers hawked in the AVN Magazine, sometimes with full page spreads.

Wasn't it Amy Daly who was sitting with an AVN rep or something at last year's Tranny Awards who didn't even know who she was or that she was nominated for last year's AVN's? When I heard that anecdote, I thought that was pretty eye-opening to the way AVN works.

Brittany... great post and looking forward to seeing if there are results from your (and hopefully others) efforts.

Sums it up.

[Brittany St Jordan]

IMO, the negative statements made about Madison are purely opinion and serve to undermine that entire aspect of the argument.
~BB~

You aren't around the same people I am in the industry and that is the nice version of what they say about her.

[BellaBellucci]

You aren't around the same people I am in the industry and that is the nice version of what they say about her.

Of course, but it's still an opinion though. The correlation between Bailey and Madison's representation and the treatment they receive is evidence enough to make a good circumstantial case without exploiting a questionable angle, and in doing so, weakening your argument.

I think it would behoove you to make a few quick edits, but again, that just my two cents.

~BB~

[BLKGSXR]

To be honest ive never been one for the expo or awards show just here for the weekend with the boys is what i really come for i met Brittany in the entrance the other day she seemed nice and thats exactly how avn should look at it not as ssxual orientation by of the person is nice or an utter cunt but thats just my 2cents.

[Brittany St Jordan]

Of course, but it's still an opinion though. The correlation between Bailey and Madison's representation and the treatment they receive is evidence enough to make a good circumstantial case without exploiting a questionable angle, and in doing so, weakening your argument.

I think it would behoove you to make a few quick edits, but again, that just my two cents.

~BB~
It has already gone out to a whole lot of folks and reposted on a few blogs. So editing isn't an option lol.


To be honest ive never been one for the expo or awards show just here for the weekend with the boys is what i really come for i met Brittany in the entrance the other day she seemed nice and thats exactly how avn should look at it not as ssxual orientation by of the person is nice or an utter cunt but thats just my 2cents.

It was nice meeting you as well. I think you are the first long-distance person I have met from here ;)

[BellaBellucci]

It has already gone out to a whole lot of folks and reposted on a few blogs. So editing isn't an option lol.

Oh well, I guess. :lol:

~BB~

[BLKGSXR]

It has already gone out to a whole lot of folks and reposted on a few blogs. So editing isn't an option lol.



It was nice meeting you as well. I think you are the first long-distance person I have met from here ;)
:-) you girls were all stunning and it was awesome being able to see my sisterdickbitch michelle :-P then always seeing jesse is fun she seems so shy but last few times i met her she was ^_^

[bart87]

Brittany St Jordan was looking beautiful like always at the awards :)

but like i said b4 im glad that BJ won again :D
and madison was looking beautiful no need for all the hate

but if avn is being mean to the sexy ts girls fuck them and there show

[tsmandy]

AVN is bullshit, a dying brand like Steven has pointed out. The industry treats us like lepers, and as long as it continues to pander to the lowest common denominator that will remain the case.

It sucks to see you so disheartened by it all, fuck em, lets make some rad porn in 2012 & ignore the closet cases who spank to our movies & refuse to acknowledge us in public.

At the end of the day this is a business and if you can increase sales & revenue through AVN then by all means jump on that bitch. But if they don't benefit our pocket book who cares?

And I actually agree with Bella in this instance, I think sending out a press release complaining about Madison Montague just invalidated the entire release & makes it look like you just have personal issues rather than a valid concern about discrimination & transphonbia.

[BellaBellucci]

And I actually agree with Bella in this instance...

Wait. :?

You what? :lol:

~BB~

[tsmandy]

Just because I think you run your mouth & attack me unnecessarily doesn't mean I disagree with you on principle (though I'm tempted sometimes).

Look, I don't want to put down or make any of my TS sisters feel shitty. At the end of the day you never know who is gonna end up being a friend. Take Danni Daniels, I fucking hated her guts when I met her, and for about 6 months after. Now we are like best buds and stuff.

I agree with much of Brittany's sentiments, but I think when people in the biz who don't have any clue who Madison is, see Brittany complaining about Bailey Jay (who has a lot of friends believe it or not) and Madison they are just gonna hit delete and chalk it up to jealousy. Which is too bad, because we are treated by the biz like second class citizens and its hurtful and depressing.

[BigDF]

You could translate that post BigDF? It was all gibberish to me.You need a course in hillbilly redneck, my friend. :)

[BigDF]

:-) you girls were all stunning and it was awesome being able to see my sisterdickbitch michelle :-P then always seeing jesse is fun she seems so shy but last few times i met her she was ^_^Never thought I'd be saying this but I am beaucoup jealous of you, getting to meet and hang with those three beauties. :Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

[Brittany St Jordan]

Never thought I'd be saying this but I am beaucoup jealous of you, getting to meet and hang with those three beauties. :Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

If it had been 30 seconds later they would have missed us. We were walking out to the car as they were walking into the hotel. It was about as near perfect timing as you can get lol

[SunshyneMonroe]

Again ill say this one more time .... ALL award show r bs they pick who wins who they owe a favor too who there friends r ect moven on

[GroobySteven]

Again ill say this one more time .... ALL award show r bs they pick who wins who they owe a favor too who there friends r ect moven on

You've been in this industry for a minute.

Our award show has nothing to do with favours or friends as no one person or collective from one organisation has the vote. The judges don't even know whom the other judges are so there can be no coercion and I look forward to announcing the winners, some of whom I'm privy to already.

[SunshyneMonroe]

You've been in this industry for a minute.

Our award show has nothing to do with favours or friends as no one person or collective from one organisation has the vote. The judges don't even know whom the other judges are so there can be no coercion and I look forward to announcing the winners, some of whom I'm privy to already.

Hmm well like I said all award shows r porn music movie wutever...i wasnt talking about ur ward show only but like I said ALL r if not tell the ppl that work for you not too say so

[GroobySteven]

Hmm well like I said all award shows r porn music movie wutever...i wasnt talking about ur ward show only but like I said ALL r if not tell the ppl that work for you not too say so

Oh Sunshyne, the purveyor of drama for the sake of it, come on, move on and stop talking rubbish.
You claim that Buddy Wood said that if you didn't work for him, you'd never win a Tranny Award?
a) why were you nominated and getting voted on?
b) Buddy claims he never said anything of the sort (I'll let him interject if he needs)
c) why are girls who've never worked for us nominated?
d) if you don't care about awards so much - why do you care.

[TSMichelleAustin]

I was there with Brit the whole wkend. I experienced it all and seen it all. We had fun at expo but we also seen how other industry people look at us too. I have posted this on my blogs and plan on setting down and sending out my regards to this matter too!

[SunshyneMonroe]

Oh Sunshyne, the purveyor of drama for the sake of it, come on, move on and stop talking rubbish.
You claim that Buddy Wood said that if you didn't work for him, you'd never win a Tranny Award?
a) why were you nominated and getting voted on?
b) Buddy claims he never said anything of the sort (I'll let him interject if he needs)
c) why are girls who've never worked for us nominated?
d) if you don't care about awards so much - why do you care.

a)NO i never said he said if i didnt work with a him he would not let me win.Plz take a screen shot and show me this...I told you I heard he said I would never him...

Now when me and buddy were fuckin he DID tell me he could get me too win :)

Also there are girlz who did DVDs with u years ago and still have yet to get a dime... and you gave them a Tranny award for the dvd too "shut them up" I was told this by them...

Mandy has posted about awards and she does not care why cant I?

[TSMichelleAustin]

Also what I heard another AVN person say to some of the Str8 Performers while they were shipping them in first was... "All the winners already know if they won." LOL craziness! So I guess we should of taken that as Jesse or Brit didnt win then! LOL

[tsdvdman]

a)NO i never said he said if i didnt work with a him he would not let me win.Plz take a screen shot and show me this...I told you I heard he said I would never him...

Now when me and buddy were fuckin he DID tell me he could get me too win :)

Also there are girlz who did DVDs with u years ago and still have yet to get a dime... and you gave them a Tranny award for the dvd too "shut them up" I was told this by them...

Mandy has posted about awards and she does not care why cant I?
LOL...Wow..you are a trip. Pleeeze do tell more..:yayo:

[SunshyneMonroe]

LOL...Wow..you are a trip. Pleeeze do tell more..:yayo:

Oh be Nice :)

[rockabilly]

Very thought provoking post about the lack of simple decency in porn towards tg and equality. In the eyes of some we are all in the gutter would it kill them to show compassion.

[lisaparadise]

you guys and girls are getting all bent over a porn award? roflmfao seriously lol:yayo:

[ed_jaxon]

There was an interesting dynamic for sure at the hotel. I was at first impressed with how cool everyone seemed towards the trans individuals and the vibe was cool in the bar as we were all hanging out. Dudes were looking at Morgan and Foxxy and the other girls but no one said anything ignorant and a lot of the dudes were obviously interested.

Shit changed on Saturday night when an ignorant fuck said some bullshit and Jix checked him loudly.

Then I come to find one of the girls got felt up by asshole wanting to see if she was trans. That would have started a fight.

Don't get me wrong I had a blast drinking, hanging out smoking cigars and gambling but a few dumbasses can make shit go south real quick.

[YasminLee]

it's silly to take it to seriously. Whenever I get nominated for anything and not just AVN. I just smile and think "oh wow, that's nice that they thought of me." Usually this feeling of being appreciated last about 10 sec before I move on with my life. I never won anything ever but believe the ones that care enough to put in the time, effort and money either themselves or via 3rd party deserves it. If you want it, get your asses out there and fight for it. Or you can save money and buy amazing wardrope, house and business like I did. :)

[Willie Escalade]

If it had been 30 seconds later they would have missed us. We were walking out to the car as they were walking into the hotel. It was about as near perfect timing as you can get lol
True, true...perfect timing indeed!

And you letter will get a reblog from me as well.

I normally go to the convention, but I just didn't feel like it this year. Besides, there'll be other ones later on. I WAS going to snap some pics on the red carpet, but there was just too many folks doing the same thing. I wanted good pics...especially of my friends.

Ed is right. The vibe Saturday night WAS very chill. I was lucky to have dinner with Morgan, Foxxy, Astrid Shay, and Eva Lin; not one person in that restaurant did anything or said anything derogatory towards the ladies. And yes, many of the folks were indeed checking out the ladies (especially Natasha and Evon). I heard some VERY positive remarks; the only negative one was when potna tried to hit on Evon. She's a big girl; she ignored it and just walked away.

I found about Bailey winning via Twitter while Natasha was on my lap. Needless to say, none of us was very happy. I was even more disappointed after I heard about the red carpet incident.

I can't really boycott AVN because I don't really support them in he first place. I WILL however side with XBIZ more since they treat all of the stars equally.

[LeelaWang]

Oh Yasmin Lee, you're too cool:iagree:!!... indeed that's the right mentality to have sadly at this time, but things will change. You might not have won any awards but you got a role in a big hollywood pic, so take that AVN!!*shakes fist*

[EvonRose]

True, true...perfect timing indeed!

And you letter will get a reblog from me as well.

I normally go to the convention, but I just didn't feel like it this year. Besides, there'll be other ones later on. I WAS going to snap some pics on the red carpet, but there was just too many folks doing the same thing. I wanted good pics...especially of my friends.

Ed is right. The vibe Saturday night WAS very chill. I was lucky to have dinner with Morgan, Foxxy, Astrid Shay, and Eva Lin; not one person in that restaurant did anything or said anything derogatory towards the ladies. And yes, many of the folks were indeed checking out the ladies (especially Natasha and Evon). I heard some VERY positive remarks; the only negative one was when potna tried to hit on Evon. She's a big girl; she ignored it and just walked away.

I found about Bailey winning via Twitter while Natasha was on my lap. Needless to say, none of us was very happy. I was even more disappointed after I heard about the red carpet incident.

I can't really boycott AVN because I don't really support them in he first place. I WILL however side with XBIZ more since they treat all of the stars equally.

Yeah 3 guys came up to me and one guy grabbed my privates under my dress and I hit him with my shoes, then he started going on and on about bs...

[GroobyKrissy]

it's silly to take it to seriously. Whenever I get nominated for anything and not just AVN. I just smile and think "oh wow, that's nice that they thought of me." Usually this feeling of being appreciated last about 10 sec before I move on with my life. I never won anything ever but believe the ones that care enough to put in the time, effort and money either themselves or via 3rd party deserves it. If you want it, get your asses out there and fight for it. Or you can save money and buy amazing wardrope, house and business like I did. :)

Yasmin, I have nothing but respect for you but I disagree.

I think recognition is pretty important to a lot of people. Like yourself, I fall more into the category of, 'It would be nice but I don't really care that much...', because, let's be honest here, past my prime today, I'll never go to the AVN's and will most likely never be nominated for one. I was thrilled to have lost my category at the TA's to Tara and Delia for the past few years.

BUT, I totally get where girls like Brittany are coming from and why this AVN kerfuffle is being made into such a big deal. Times have changed so much. Gone are the days when blessed and beautiful girls (like yourself) could attract huge and loyal Fan bases with (relatively) minimal effort. Today's girls must compete for attention against a whole world of relatively new and different things, including piracy, the Internet, cam-shows, and more and more girls coming out of the woodwork to become stars. Gone are the days when there were only a handful of true TS Pornstars. Gone are the days where the genre was small and new. Think back 10 years ago and you could maybe name 10 TS 'Pornstars' if you thought really, really hard. Today, I could easily rattle off 20-30 girls who would consider themselves 'pornstars'. In this short-life-span of an industry, minute-by-minute recognition is crucial and fifteen minutes of fame on a stage as large as the AVN's may just be enough to launch a career.

As the novelty of TS porn wears off, it is only going to become that much harder for true 'Pornstars' to emerge from the pack, which is why I am left scratching my head at times as to this rush for the TS niche to become 'mainstream'. I don't think it is at all silly for girls to want to be treated equally to their mainstream peers, and if the AVN's were to straighten this out and actually put some effort into their TS categories, I think a LOT of persons would be taking them more seriously.

Anyway... it pains me to disagree with you :Bowdown: but just how I feel. Today it is much, much harder for girls to make a living in porn and save up the scratch to do the wardrobe, house, and business thing so every opportunity for recognition and achievement should be fought for and protected tooth and nail, which is why I was so quick to jump behind Brittany's lead even though I don't agree 100% with the message as written... the whole of it is something we should all get behind and support.

[BLKGSXR]

Yeah 3 guys came up to me and one guy grabbed my privates under my dress and I hit him with my shoes, then he started going on and on about bs...

Me and our friend actually talked about that again like that works on genetic girls? That fucktard was a lowlife piece of dirt at least we had a fun time with you!

[EvonRose]

Me and our friend actually talked about that again like that works on genetic girls? That fucktard was a lowlife piece of dirt at least we had a fun time with you!

It's dumb then they get butt hurt I dint talk to them, uh duh! you just assaulted me! It was weird but regardless I had a fun time...

[BLKGSXR]

It's dumb then they get butt hurt I dint talk to them, uh duh! you just assaulted me! It was weird but regardless I had a fun time...You sure as hell can take a joke, and thats what I personally Liked the most of you! :D

[YasminLee]

Yasmin, I have nothing but respect for you but I disagree.

I think recognition is pretty important to a lot of people. Like yourself, I fall more into the category of, 'It would be nice but I don't really care that much...', because, let's be honest here, past my prime today, I'll never go to the AVN's and will most likely never be nominated for one. I was thrilled to have lost my category at the TA's to Tara and Delia for the past few years.

BUT, I totally get where girls like Brittany are coming from and why this AVN kerfuffle is being made into such a big deal. Times have changed so much. Gone are the days when blessed and beautiful girls (like yourself) could attract huge and loyal Fan bases with (relatively) minimal effort. Today's girls must compete for attention against a whole world of relatively new and different things, including piracy, the Internet, cam-shows, and more and more girls coming out of the woodwork to become stars. Gone are the days when there were only a handful of true TS Pornstars. Gone are the days where the genre was small and new. Think back 10 years ago and you could maybe name 10 TS 'Pornstars' if you thought really, really hard. Today, I could easily rattle off 20-30 girls who would consider themselves 'pornstars'. In this short-life-span of an industry, minute-by-minute recognition is crucial and fifteen minutes of fame on a stage as large as the AVN's may just be enough to launch a career.

As the novelty of TS porn wears off, it is only going to become that much harder for true 'Pornstars' to emerge from the pack, which is why I am left scratching my head at times as to this rush for the TS niche to become 'mainstream'. I don't think it is at all silly for girls to want to be treated equally to their mainstream peers, and if the AVN's were to straighten this out and actually put some effort into their TS categories, I think a LOT of persons would be taking them more seriously.

Anyway... it pains me to disagree with you :Bowdown: but just how I feel. Today it is much, much harder for girls to make a living in porn and save up the scratch to do the wardrobe, house, and business thing so every opportunity for recognition and achievement should be fought for and protected tooth and nail, which is why I was so quick to jump behind Brittany's lead even though I don't agree 100% with the message as written... the whole of it is something we should all get behind and support.




I totally see where you are coming from. My feeling is that Yes we should be recognized and rewarded as such when we earned them. However, do we really care for AVN and their recognition knowing that year after year after year ever since they started, that they don't care about us and when the day comes when the do, would they be qualify? based on the fact that their panel knows almost nothing about our porn. I say it's a great start that we try to create our own acknowledgment via tranny awards. We can only hope that it gets big enough where it reach the audience who will care enough to put their penis down and take a sec to vote.

[BellaBellucci]

As the novelty of TS porn wears off, it is only going to become that much harder for true 'Pornstars' to emerge from the pack, which is why I am left scratching my head at times as to this rush for the TS niche to become 'mainstream'.

The novelty? You mean the taboo, don't you? And as it wears off and we gain more acceptance in both porn and the mainstream, we will be less 'verboten,' leading to growth in the fan base.

Yeah, that makes no sense at all. :lol:

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

In fact, you know something? This calls for an 'Am I Gay' thread. :lol:

~BB~

[rockabilly]

I'm just gonna paraphrase Seth Rogen and say this ... If more people admitted to watching trans porn the world would be a better place.

[TSLexiWade]

I totally see where you are coming from. My feeling is that Yes we should be recognized and rewarded as such when we earned them. However, do we really care for AVN and their recognition knowing that year after year after year ever since they started, that they don't care about us and when the day comes when the do, would they be qualify? based on the fact that their panel knows almost nothing about our porn. I say it's a great start that we try to create our own acknowledgment via tranny awards. We can only hope that it gets big enough where it reach the audience who will care enough to put their penis down and take a sec to vote.


Very well stated Yasmin! :iagree:

[GroobySteven]

a)NO i never said he said if i didnt work with a him he would not let me win.Plz take a screen shot and show me this...I told you I heard he said I would never him...

Now when me and buddy were fuckin he DID tell me he could get me too win :)

Also there are girlz who did DVDs with u years ago and still have yet to get a dime... and you gave them a Tranny award for the dvd too "shut them up" I was told this by them...

Mandy has posted about awards and she does not care why cant I?

Oh my mistake Sunshyne, I apologize.
So you are making a fuss about something you heard somebody say - and not something you actually heard yourself?

I've no idea what you are talking about girls/DVD's/TrannyAwards - to shut them up ... or it's relevance here. Everybody who "did DVD's with us" was paid.

[AmyDaly]

Wasn't it Amy Daly who was sitting with an AVN rep or something at last year's Tranny Awards who didn't even know who she was or that she was nominated for last year's AVN's? When I heard that anecdote, I thought that was pretty eye-opening to the way AVN works.

Yea, mark kerns had no idea who I was even though I was on the cover of the DVD that won, was nominated for performer of the year, and was in 4 of the titles that got nominated. That to me proves it right there that they don't give a shit, they don't watch any of the titles, etc... etc... www.amydaly.com/blog i've blogged about it

[GroobySteven]

Blogged on Grooby.com blog and tweeting. Will also do on Xbiz.

[GroobyKrissy]

I completely agree! Brittany's trivial and personal concerns over Madison undermine the only important point she had to make.

What a terrible spokesperson; you can't even make a statement about acceptance and respect without bitching over other performers in your niche.

To this I would just say...

I think if you pick that out and harp on it, you're missing the overwhelming point of Brittany's letter. Personally, I probably wouldn't have written that part, but then again, I didn't have to deal with the frustrations of being nominated and then feeling that there was no chance at all of winning due to alleged insider stuff going on. You simply can't deny that it does look pretty fishy and silly when you put the performers' works against each other and then come out with the winner.

The letter was probably written at a time with a little heat behind it, but sometimes people need to hear that to effect true change.

[GroobyKrissy]

I totally see where you are coming from. My feeling is that Yes we should be recognized and rewarded as such when we earned them. However, do we really care for AVN and their recognition knowing that year after year after year ever since they started, that they don't care about us and when the day comes when the do, would they be qualify? based on the fact that their panel knows almost nothing about our porn. I say it's a great start that we try to create our own acknowledgment via tranny awards. We can only hope that it gets big enough where it reach the audience who will care enough to put their penis down and take a sec to vote.

Yasmin, you're a class act :)

Absolutely agree on this, and I have promoted and sponsored the Tranny Awards since it began. Personally, I don't think the TS porn community has that much to gain by courting the AVN Awards since it overwhelmingly caters to a vanilla-type crowd. I see far more potential with the start-up of the Tranny Awards and it is great to see it picking up steam.

Still, when someone from our midst steps up and voices a concern like Brittany did, I think it really behooves us all to support instead of ridicule and tear down like some have been doing, or else the next time something 'important' swings by, no one will want to speak out for fear of backlash.

[Nicole Dupre]

:2cent Have your fun, make a few coins, and have a few laughs. But if being a sexworker in any capacity is all you have at the end of the day? You haven't got shit. What the hell must some girls be thinking if they can even walk out the door and still get clocked? Shouldn't they have bigger fish to fry? Than making some chump change from porn and sucking dick? lol

If you know more than 2 people who won't throw you under the bus in the collective "biz", you're lucky.

Age gracefully if you can. Make real friends, start real careers, work towards real goals, do real things, be real people, live real lives, and don't seek validation from ANY of this.

[giovanni_hotel]

Yeah 3 guys came up to me and one guy grabbed my privates under my dress and I hit him with my shoes, then he started going on and on about bs...

Wow.

Has this happened to other TGs before???
I shouldn't be surprised, but I kinda am, a little.

If a guy tried to palm a GG's pussy at an event, he'd probably be thrown to the ground by security and later arrested.

[SunshyneMonroe]

Wow.

Has this happened to other TGs before???
I shouldn't be surprised, but I kinda am, a little.

If a guy tried to palm a GG's pussy at an event, he'd probably be thrown to the ground by security and later arrested.

Nothing like this has EVER happened to me...

[MrsKellyPierce]

I'm blogging about it now and getting all my followers and fans to write into flood Mark's email

[Nicole Dupre]

I maced a client who got rough on me once and threw his clothes down the hall of the hotel. If they let you open the windows in that place i would have thrown his clothes down to 6th ave. That would have been awesome if he had to go into the lobby naked. Lol

[Brittany St Jordan]

I'm blogging about it now and getting all my followers and fans to write into flood Mark's email

it is mark.kearnes@avn.com

[Ecstatic]

Brittany, I emailed Mark (thanks for his email address, as the previous one I used bounced) to express my concerns as both a fan and a producer of adult entertainment with 10+ websites in my network (yeah, we're small, but we're making some noise). I also blogged about it on my ladyboyweb.com blog and included your full text comments in the blog's Transgender News section. Thank you for stepping up and raising this issue.

[BigBlackMan]

Hi guys.....

[MrsKellyPierce]

AVN’s Inequality & Segregation Needs to Stop!

Let me start by expressing this post is only about about the unfairness and inequality of how they treat transsexual nominees at AVN. If you are reading it for any other reason, move on! This has been going on for years, and many Transsexual performers and non-transsexual performers/fans who support the ts genre are fed up!



The inequality and segregation of mainstream nominees and transsexual nominees needs to stop! In my opinion if you are a nominee of an award show, you should be treated with respect and be able to take your moment to shine like any other nominee. I know many will say “why do you care? It’s just an award show GEEZE!” The reason you should care if you a transsexual nominee! It’s an award show that gets played on Showtime, and has some of the biggest media camps interviewing on the red carpet. Something that could push a your career farther or the transsexual genre farther. Exposure is everything in this business, and you are missing on a lot of it!


Yes, transsexual performers are allowed on the red carpet, but when it comes to interviews they are taken off the red carpet so they can be “hidden”. If somehow a transsexual gets interviewed by one of the host for Showtime it’s edited out. Transsexual performers are also not allowed to walk up and receive their award and it’s announced at the end so it’s not part of the show. The award will be mailed to the winner. While every other mainstream star/company gets to walk up and accept their award. They treat the transsexual genre like a pack of animals put in a cage. To me it’s basically a form of segregation! Isn’t it funny a mainstream award show is more accepting to transgender individuals than a porn award show? They interview stars who have done mainstream roles like Yasmin Lee and Candis Cayne all the time on the red carpets. Yet, AVN is stuck in the past of segregation.

Past nominees and winners have to thank Joanna Jett for the transsexual niche even being part of AVN. She is the one who fought for transsexuals to be part of it, but now the fight is to have transsexuals stars given the same respect and privileges of the mainstream stars at AVN. Why should someone be pushed aside, because they are transsexual? I love DJ Chi Chi Larue, and AVN Must too! They parade Chi Chi who is a drag queen all over the stage, but somehow in AVN’s opinion a transsexual is just too TABOO. I personally think they are scared at how beautiful some of the transsexuals are today, and don’t want the ts performers to outshine the females. Since so many female performers with their collagened up lips and big tits look like a stereotypical transsexual. Transsexuals in general are looking better today, due to transitioning younger, better surgeries, and better hormones. Some you would never guess unless they were naked.


What pushed the limit this year for me and many others is three ts performers were made to wait in line with the fans. Two of which were nominees. Brittany St Jordan who wrote her own article on the matter, and Jesse Flores. The other ts performer was Michelle Austin. From what I was told, the handlers of the red carpet were telling nominees to move to the front of the line to walk the red carpet. That way they didn’t have to wait, since they only have so long to walk it before the award show begins. When Brittany informed the handlers they were nominees for transsexual performer of the year, they were told to wait in line with the fans while other mainstream stars were ushered onto the red carpet. Instead of enjoying their moment they were put in fan line which took them three hours to get onto the red carpet. Let me be fair though there were other ts-girls who got the same privileges to move to the front of the line, but those performers had PR teams and friends in the industry. To put more fuel on the fire Jesse was ushered into a hallway after walking the carpet, instead of being able to give a single interview. Interviews that may of pushed her brand and given her some mainstream coverage.


Year after Year transsexual girls flock to the award show hoping to get some recognition for their hard work. Then year after year leave disappointed. I personally only take part in the fan shows, so I can meet my fans. I do not support an award show that doesn’t treat all nominees to the respect and treatment they deserve. I am very proud of XBIZ for treating all of it’s nominees equally. They realize that most men that watch “straight” porn, watch transsexual porn.


For ones still wanting to say why should I care or why are you bitching! How do you think mainstream stars like Jesse Jane and Jenna Jameson made it big besides their beauty? They were pushed in someone’s face, exposure! Ads were taken out on them, interviews, tv appearances, and more. If you are building a successful brand you need all the exposure you can get. That’s how STARS, become stars and every facet of the entertainment business. Why many girls pay 500 to 2000 dollars a month on a PR team to expand their brand.



I find it pathetic networks and movie studios like NBC, Showtime, Warnerbros, and more will feature a transsexual in a show or movie with no problem. Then a industry built on sex and supposed to be open-minded shy away from it. They are too scared to take the same initiative. More people are becoming more accepting and even bi-sexual if not poly-sexual. Not to mention AVN many men who watch TRANNY PORN, watch STRAIGHT PORN. They are not or do not feel they are gay. Many are only into women and transsexuals. Stop living in the 1980’s and move onto the future of acceptance and equality. Segregation is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourselves of how you treat the transgender niche!


Please if you agree with me or would like to add your complaint write into mark.kearnes@avn.com (mark.kearns@avn.com)



You can also fax and write in


AVN Media Network, Inc.
9400 Penfield Avenue
Chatsworth, California 91311 USA
818.718.5788 tel 818.718.5799 fax

[Brittany St Jordan]

[B] mark.kearns@avn.com



You can also fax and write in


AVN Media Network, Inc.
9400 Penfield Avenue
Chatsworth, California 91311 USA
818.718.5788 tel 818.718.5799 fax

it is kearnes. I had a typo in my original post

[MrsKellyPierce]

it is kearnes. I had a typo in my original post
thanks changed :)

[BLKGSXR]

I'm blogging about it now and getting all my followers and fans to write into flood Mark's email
you do know that blogging it is a form of harassment just sayin if someones email is flooded it shuts itself down because the provider thinks it is being hacked.

[MrsKellyPierce]

you do know that blogging it is a form of harassment just sayin if someones email is flooded it shuts itself down because the provider thinks it is being hacked.
Well Brittany already did it :) so umm yeah :)

[Silcc69]

Is the AVN run by the GOP?

[Ecstatic]

Hmmm, both email addresses bounced for me.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Hmmm, both email addresses bounced for me.
Maybe he changed it lol I would fax in then

or

pr@avn.com
(elizabeth.giarrizzo@avn.com)

[WendyWilliams]

Ok now that I'm back from Vegas I guess Ill respond.

My Insight: PRO and CON


Since my first introduction with AVN in 2005 I have been treated with respect. As most know I won AVN in 2009 and presented an award on stage in 2010. Being able to walk on that stage not only was a feeling of accomplishment but that week that the show aired I seen an increase in traffic to my site which did convert into sales. Also from that appearance it continued to help "brand" Wendy Williams. Winning AVN helped secure my Doc Johnson toy line and it has given me leverage with networking. I will say that I have an amazing business relationship with most of the people at AVN and they have always listened to my concerns and have always given my PR releases the same priority as any other PR company. I have never been treated rude on the red carpet (I've walked it five times). I will say that in 2010 I was interviewed by Jesse Jane and Jessica Drake on the red carpet but it was edited from the Showtime version. Was I upset? I mentioned it to a few people at AVN and let it go. In 2010 IMLIVE awarded the female and male winners with a watch and when I emailed the people at IMLIVE wondering why the TS winner didn't receive a prize I was told that it was all about "visibility" of their brand associated with the winner. That the foreign perfomer winners weren't visible either on stage therefore wasn't something they could do "at this time". So of course I voiced my concerns as I do every year with things I feel aren't fair. We work all year long to be seen and heard and are NOT given the same perks as our counter parts. Though I have never been vocal (shocking huh) I have each year always voiced these concerns among others fighting for our genre as a whole.

Fast forward to this year. I am not going to get into some debate on who and who isn't worthy of a nomination. There will always be someone who thinks they deserved it while other's didn't. I will address the statements of saying that people don't view our porn when they vote. I find it amusing that fans and or models are making such BOLD statments without knowing facts. I know for a FACT that ALL voters are given a copy of nominated DVD's. Companies are instructed of how many copies and in fact this year given the information of where to send such screeners. NOW with that being said do I think such voters watch it and or are interested in the TS genre? Most NO. So sadly I would presume that most votes come from not having knowledge of our genre. It would be beneficial and credible if AVN of said voters would choose and count the votes of those who actually are interested or familier with our Industry. There are persons like Mark Kernes and DarkLady who could really give insight and a voice of reason to these concerns. Also something I have complained about is the reviewing process. Over the year you will only see a handful of actual TS DVD reviews that are published oh avn.con and or in the magazine. Back in 2006 or so ALL DVD's that were sent in by Joanna Jet, Gia Darling, myself, etc you could count on seeing reviewed within a 3 month period. These reviews not only gave readers insight on our Genre but as Producers it gave us some direction. Example would be Wendy Williams Uncensored 2 I sent in April and yet no review. Pulse who handles SMC releases sent in copies of all the DVD releases and yet NO reviews. The reviews are few and spare!

Red Carpet: As I said before I have NEVER had an issue however it does upset me to know that a TS model was treated as such and not given the same respect as others and I will bring it up to the person(s) who run that part of the show.

Finally, I never paid for my award. I didn't buy advertising, I didn't do any behind the door deals LOL, I never slept with people at AVN for favors, etc. I feel I deserved my award and no matter what people say it not only helped with my brand but it has given me "perks" as a "Pornstar" in this Adult Industry. I am a firm believer that all the award shows have pro's and con's and it is up to us as ADULTS to choose which you support and which you don't. I will NOT put all my eggs in one basket!

I strongly suggest those that care speak and those who don't ignore it.



Wendy

FYI: I will say that XBIZ even with its VERY questionable nominations this year is TRULY reaching out to see how they can make the process more fair and how they can educate themselves better about our genre. The staff at XBZ have an open conversation with many individuals among our genre and I feel they are taking all the concerns/information/suggestions and will use bits and parts of it all. Of course they are getting "suggestions" that benefit said individuals interests but I am confident they will again use the parts that help the category as a WHOLE. Being able to stand on that stage and accept your award is HUGE but when the creditibility of the award is questioned due to nominations then it does out shine that moment on stage. However, I atleast see people listening to concerns.

I would suggest people just forward it to pr@avn.con which is the general mailbox and is seen by those who should. Mark is a great guy but he is just an editor there and can do nothing but again FORWARD it to those who make the decisions.

[BellaBellucci]

I personally think they are scared at how beautiful some of the transsexuals are today, and don’t want the ts performers to outshine the females. Since so many female performers with their collagened up lips and big tits look like a stereotypical transsexual. Transsexuals in general are looking better today, due to transitioning younger, better surgeries, and better hormones. Some you would never guess unless they were naked.

More personal opinion. To me, this has the exact same effect as Brittany's tirade against Madison in undermining the credibility of the entire letter.

Look ladies, people will take us seriously when we base our arguments for equality on facts, not speculation and allegation.

~BB~

[MrsKellyPierce]

More personal opinion. To me, this has the exact same effect as Brittany's tirade against Madison in undermining the credibility of entire letter.

Look ladies, people will take us seriously when we base our arguments for equality on facts, not speculation and allegation.

~BB~
I disagree...I think it needs to be said..since most feel transsexuals are what they see on Jerry Springer

[GroobySteven]

I would suggest people just forward it to pr@avn.con which is the general mailbox and is seen by those who should. Mark is a great guy but he is just an editor there and can do nothing but again FORWARD it to those who make the decisions.

Yeah this is pointless. Mark has always been supportive but he's not the power behind who does what and certainly not with the awards. Nobody should be spamming an email but I do think a fax or letter goes further than an email.

Wendy, while I've always stated that I believe your win was deserved that year as a performer, I also believe that if all things had been equal with another performer or performers your visibility and personality within the genre would have pipped it. I don't think AVN goes through that many scenes measuring one model against another.

[WendyWilliams]

Yeah this is pointless. Mark has always been supportive but he's not the power behind who does what and certainly not with the awards. Nobody should be spamming an email but I do think a fax or letter goes further than an email.

Wendy, while I've always stated that I believe your win was deserved that year as a performer, I also believe that if all things had been equal with another performer or performers your visibility and personality within the genre would have pipped it. I don't think AVN goes through that many scenes measuring one model against another.

I totally agree thats why the award definition includes "body of work".

[MrsKellyPierce]

I am probably the only one out of many of the girls that thought Wendy deserved it the year she won

I even told her she was going to win that year..so it was no surprised to me when it came back and said she won..

other girls felt differently, but they always do

I could care less who wins..I care more about the nominees being treated fairly and like the other stars...

[GroobySteven]

GFY showing themselves to be the usual bunch of misogynist assholes as usual.

If you want to see a board worse than Hungangels for drama ... no seriously, go to http://www.gfy.com - the whiniest assholes around.

[MrsKellyPierce]

they are always assholes

[Nivek]

The road is only beginning to be paved for all you Girls in the industry. Sadly equality is never given equally. As a fan, admirer, and chronic Yanker, I'd imagine YOU all have the power to demand that your award invitation includes an award at the ceremony first and foremost. Never having gone to one I kind of just took for granted that if you are invited as a nominee there will be an award there, still surprised by that.. All of you have a direct line to your audiences with your fans on your sites, demand that they do the same and request a TS award at the ceremony. The Power lies in all of you the performers, and this is definitely a cause worth fighting for.

[Brittany St Jordan]

The road is only beginning to be paved for all you Girls in the industry. Sadly equality is never given equally. As a fan, admirer, and chronic Yanker, I'd imagine YOU all have the power to demand that your award invitation includes an award at the ceremony first and foremost. Never having gone to one I kind of just took for granted that if you are invited as a nominee there will be an award there, still surprised by that.. All of you have a direct line to your audiences with your fans on your sites, demand that they do the same and request a TS award at the ceremony. The Power lies in all of you the performers, and this is definitely a cause worth fighting for.

:iagree: This

[BellaBellucci]

Lulz@ some of these amateur politicians. :lol:

~BB~

[scroller]

Well, that took some major courage on the part of the OP, so salute to that.

[GroobySteven]

Lulz@ some of these amateur politicians. :lol:


Yeah, as a professional you must be sickening to see them get more publicity and support than you've ever had?

[Silcc69]

Bunch of jackasses on there

http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1054736
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/154/912/berneydidnotread.gif?1318992465
But I found this gif to be to much.

[SammiValentine]

What a fine example of helpful and informative adult webmasters!

[BellaBellucci]

Yeah, as a professional you must be sickening to see them get more publicity and support than you've ever had?

Bwahahahaha! Yeah, ok. What you said. :lol:

~BB~

[Mayrah]

What a fine example of helpful and informative adult webmasters!

Imagine your emailing these webmasters with a problem and they just type "DIDNT READ LOL"

Holy fuck these people are immature :ignore:

[GroobySteven]

Imagine your emailing these webmasters with a problem and they just type "DIDNT READ LOL"

Holy fuck these people are immature :ignore:

They're rarely real webmasters. They might have been involved in the industry in some minor way or as minor affiliates but generally they're very small. They post on GFY as their signatures all get them hits/SEO in much the same way mine does on here.
Which is why they're not bothered about doing much but single word answers.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Some of them need a good dicking

[dgs925]

Bunch of jackasses on there

http://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1054736
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/154/912/berneydidnotread.gif?1318992465
But I found this gif to be to much.

Yeah that cracks me up. The OP has some points, but she throws away any credibility by the whole "Rapes transsexuals of dignity" bullshit. I read the post, because I find Brit to be sexy as hell, but I didn't need to read it to know how melodramatic it is. Anyone who uses "rape" to mean "paid disrespect" instead of "sexual assault" is opening themselves up to ridicule.

So mainstream porn doesn't give you respect? Fuck'em, move on.

[mrtrebus]

I agree. To use the word rape in this context is offensive

[Buddy Wood]

Whoa whoa whoa!! I forget how to quote shit on this fuckin' board but...Sunshade...Sweet sweet Sunshade...when I was "fucking" you...I would tell you how if you did good work and worked with the right people that you would most certainly get nominated for things at Tranny Awards and maybe even AVNs. Mostly through proper exposure and cuz you're hot. Uhhh it's not rocket science. I never said "I" would get you nominated. Don't go there. That's about as tacky as you can get. Straight up slanderous actually. I give all kinds of girls advice. Good advice. Cuz I've been doing this a while now and I care. Some listen...some don't. I never promise anyone anything...certainly not a fuckin' award!! And bottomline...I wrong about you.

Don't bring me into shadeball porn politics!!! I really like to stay out of it. Don't twist my words in private and put them on these fucking boards to make yourself sound like some "industry insider". That's just wrong!! GOddamn you're tacky!!

As far as all this AVN stuff goes...I went every year since '05 and this is the first year I had no desire to go. For the girls that haven't been around...it's good your angry. But it's also gotten better....

I thought Xbiz was great!! And Tranny Awards is all ours!! As a niche. As a community. Embrace it. Make it bigger and better every year until it's the benchmark. Fuck AVN.

[lisaparadise]

Whoa whoa whoa!! I forget how to quote shit on this fuckin' board but...Sunshade...Sweet sweet Sunshade...when I was "fucking" you...I would tell you how if you did good work and worked with the right people that you would most certainly get nominated for things at Tranny Awards and maybe even AVNs. Mostly through proper exposure and cuz you're hot. Uhhh it's not rocket science. I never said "I" would get you nominated. Don't go there. That's about as tacky as you can get. Straight up slanderous actually. I give all kinds of girls advice. Good advice. Cuz I've been doing this a while now and I care. Some listen...some don't. I never promise anyone anything...certainly not a fuckin' award!! And bottomline...I wrong about you.

Don't bring me into shadeball porn politics!!! I really like to stay out of it. Don't twist my words in private and put them on these fucking boards to make yourself sound like some "industry insider". That's just wrong!! GOddamn you're tacky!!

As far as all this AVN stuff goes...I went every year since '05 and this is the first year I had no desire to go. For the girls that haven't been around...it's good your angry. But it's also gotten better....

I thought Xbiz was great!! And Tranny Awards is all ours!! As a niche. As a community. Embrace it. Make it bigger and better every year until it's the benchmark. Fuck AVN.well that just about says it all lol sunshade?wtf and they say i cant spell lmao:dancing:

[TSMissJasmine]

I am proud to say I have never, nor will ever participate in the current format of how transgirls are treated through the nomination process and as well, during the actual AVN awards ceremonies. To be a Trans Girls parading around for recognition, validation, attention whatever, at an awards ceremony I'm not all that welcomed at just does not compute for me. Especially since we (TS) aren't (yet) a part of the final ceremony when the performers actually strut down the red carpet to collect their award. And I didn't feel like going to the awards & end up shanking someone just to demand respect & basic treatment. But really, I bet AVN would be very receptive to change if (TS) as a collective, had a voice that sent a consistent message. I mean, they can't possibly hate us, we're fucking hot.

That being said, I cannot go after the girls who have demonstrated the intelligence to take advantage of how AVN works and promote themselves and their work as hard and diligently as the known names have. From what I can tell, their porn is at least as good as most, maybe better. I give them kudos on their marketing skills and commitment to being recognized at their craft. These are business women first and foremost. Business women who don't let the predators and opportunists of the industry take advantage of them. My professional background, pre porn, was in marketing and sales and, I've seen some brilliant and very hard marketing work by names like Wendy Williams, Mia Isabella, Joanna Jet and a few others who's names escape me at the moment. Great job ladies, you deserve any award you seek!

Personally, I choose not to participate in AVN for several reasons. Foremost, I just don't have the focus in dedicating the energy and time required for self promotion over social networking. I'd rather smoke a bowl & write or read a book. That's just me. Don't get me wrong, I feel my personal performances are as dynamic and unique as they get. Nobody in Transsexual porn puts more effort into her performances. I put my personal sex into each & every production (whether I am performing or producing). However I'm not gonna run around telling everyone how great I am. Im kinda just happy with being the quite, mature, consistent, dynamic versatile, (controlling, dominant, bitchy, cunty) MILF performer in the industry (yes, i raised a child solo q4 years so f/u i earned the MILF tag).

Am I bitter I have not been recognized for anything? Not really, recognition does not satisfy my sexual prowess nor does it put money in my pocket. Therefore I will not participate in an awards ceremony that industry professionals other than TS girls financially benefit from. I would fight together with other girls for better everything but, I've not met anyone in the biz (personally) that cares enough to get me to do it, since I don't care enough myself. Also it's a tough industry with everyone's marketing efforts focused on the barely legal, I guess it's just too much to ask of TS producers to think beyond 18-23yo market. No sense taking a page out of mainstream porn's niche markets like BBW, cougar, mature etc. Perhaps they don't know how to drive the appropriate traffic for such markets. Or perhaps nobody cares enough about TS porn to demand it.

2nd, when a popular mainstream female adult performer has an average twitter follower base of 50k to 1/2 million and a mainstream TS performer has an average twitter follower base of between 5000 & 10,000 (often less than 5k). Those numbers tell me, TS porn just isn't quite that big, yet. With such a small percentage of porn viewers being fans of TS genre, get over ourselves....it's just not quite there yet. We have a lot of work to do before we can be considered anything near "mainstream." On the upside, we have nothing but market growth potential ahead of us...get on it ladies, tomorrow matters.

If I didn't get recognized, thats probably because I was too lazy, too dumb, too ignorant, too pre-occupied, self-absorbed... to take advantage of how the awards program works. Or perhaps I did not shoot with the several players that dominate the nomination process for (TS) AVN.

So should I be angry because a ''Tom Moore", sees someone like madison montag as a star versus me, a 3 year veteran with over 100 5 star productions exclusively on my website or dvd? Or do I blame a "Steve Volponi", or "Joey Silvera" for not seeing a "mature" adult performer as a profitable venture? Or do I fight & kiss ass for shoots with producers that think only barely legal girls are DVD worthy? Beg, kick & scratch for shelf space...shoots, allowing them to cash in on my brand? Or do I just do my own thing and quietly collect 100% of my personal websites profits?

In the end, its the integrity of the TS performers themselves that shape how an awards ceremony recognizes. If you don't like the current format, then perhaps do not participate. But also be vocal, express the issues & encourage others to fight with you, question and press issues relevant to the industry. From what I can tell, only Joanna Jet & Wendy Williams & maybe a couple others have fought for TS rights etal at AVN....Otherwise, start your own production company, create award winning productions and nominate your team and/or yourself.

Success in porn is all about owning your image, self branding and capturing the perpetual manifestation of one's self. I know many award winners who struggle to pay rent. Everyone in this business has a shelf life. It's about preserving your brand & understanding the needs of (paying) viewers & porn connoisseurs. Stretching your market beyond the current TS trends. If for you, an award(s) can help this path, then learn the angles of winning them and dedicate the time required to increase your "odds" of winning/earning such awards. But please, don't sit around crying this or that is unfair because, nobody gives a fuck.

love you all,

Jas

[tsmandy]

Love you Jas. Glad I shared the week of AVN with you, Adrianna, Ashley and a blizzard.

Here's to making some badass porn this upcoming year :party:

love

[GroobySteven]

An awesome post by Ms Jewels which I hope you all take the time to read ... and maybe act upon.

[TSMissJasmine]

Whoa whoa whoa!! I forget how to quote shit on this fuckin' board but...Sunshade...Sweet sweet Sunshade...when I was "fucking" you...I would tell you how if you did good work and worked with the right people that you would most certainly get nominated for things at Tranny Awards and maybe even AVNs. Mostly through proper exposure and cuz you're hot. Uhhh it's not rocket science. I never said "I" would get you nominated. Don't go there. That's about as tacky as you can get. Straight up slanderous actually. I give all kinds of girls advice. Good advice. Cuz I've been doing this a while now and I care. Some listen...some don't. I never promise anyone anything...certainly not a fuckin' award!! And bottomline...I wrong about you.

Don't bring me into shadeball porn politics!!! I really like to stay out of it. Don't twist my words in private and put them on these fucking boards to make yourself sound like some "industry insider". That's just wrong!! GOddamn you're tacky!!

As far as all this AVN stuff goes...I went every year since '05 and this is the first year I had no desire to go. For the girls that haven't been around...it's good your angry. But it's also gotten better....

I thought Xbiz was great!! And Tranny Awards is all ours!! As a niche. As a community. Embrace it. Make it bigger and better every year until it's the benchmark. Fuck AVN.

Buddy, you've made some cool movies & a few funny, creative titles. I hope to someday meet one of the girls who's careers have actually benefited from your "good advice." In the meantime to many of us, you're just a diva, high maintenance, $500-$600 trick on a 3-4 hour date who captures the action on film. Plus you just sound like a jackass every time you talk shit about a girl.

Suck my soft cock

[TSMissJasmine]

Love you Jas. Glad I shared the week of AVN with you, Adrianna, Ashley and a blizzard.

Here's to making some badass porn this upcoming year :party:

love

FUCK YAH!!!!! Cheers!!

[tsdvdman]

buddy, you've made some cool movies & a few funny, creative titles. I hope to someday meet one of the girls who's careers have actually benefited from your "good advice." in the meantime to many of us, you're just a diva, high maintenance, $500-$600 trick on a 3-4 hour date who captures the action on film. Plus you just sound like a jackass every time you talk shit about a girl.

Suck my soft cock
wow!!

[BellaBellucci]

.... and the truth shall set you free.

~BB~

[tsmandy]

I dunno, I think its admirable that girls like Brit care enough to write all this out. I was jaded on most people in this biz long ago.

Brit I'd love to get to know you not on the boards or twitter, maybe I can get lunch with you and Amy when I'm in LA?

xo

[joannajet]

Hello,

I have great respect for Brittany for jumping into this fight and I hope that when the time comes, you will step up and support her.

The year after the first AVN "TS Performer of the year" award came to be be, I then fought to bring it on stage. After substantial discussion, a compromise was reached so that AVN could test the waters with regard to audience reaction by having me on stage to present an award alongside Playboy contract girl Aurora Snow.

This was a highly nerve-racking experience for both AVN and myself as in 21 years, no transsexual had ever appeared on stage and the reaction from the 2000+ strong audience was an unknown.
My seat was way at the front so that I could be called to the stage and was therefore distanced from everyone else in the TS community and when the time came I went off and did my thing but...
With it being common knowledge of what I had to do, when I finally came off stage, a complete nervous wreck, all TS related awards had been previously announced and absolutely everyone had fucked off to a club and left me totally alone.

I ended up going back to my hotel room crying my eyes out and wondering why the fuck did I bother.

Please think this about the next time someone stands up for our niche in the adult industry.
Joanna
xxx

[tsmandy]

That sucks Joanna that you seem traumatized by that. Still makes you a badass.

There's a lot of ways that girls are making stands in the industry right now, sometimes it doesn't feel like we have each others backs, are just out for ourselves etc...but in my experience there are some really solid girls right now.

[lisaparadise]

Hello,

I have great respect for Brittany for jumping into this fight and I hope that when the time comes, you will step up and support her.

The year after the first AVN "TS Performer of the year" award came to be be, I then fought to bring it on stage. After substantial discussion, a compromise was reached so that AVN could test the waters with regard to audience reaction by having me on stage to present an award alongside Playboy contract girl Aurora Snow.

This was a highly nerve-racking experience for both AVN and myself as in 21 years, no transsexual had ever appeared on stage and the reaction from the 2000+ strong audience was an unknown.
My seat was way at the front so that I could be called to the stage and was therefore distanced from everyone else in the TS community and when the time came I went off and did my thing but...
With it being common knowledge of what I had to do, when I finally came off stage, a complete nervous wreck, all TS related awards had been previously announced and absolutely everyone had fucked off to a club and left me totally alone.

I ended up going back to my hotel room crying my eyes out and wondering why the fuck did I bother.

Please think this about the next time someone stands up for our niche in the adult industry.
Joanna
xxxthats sad to hear,it only shows we have a very long way to go in america,maybe one day they will catch up with the rest of the world.

[AmyDaly]

Brit I'd love to get to know you not on the boards or twitter, maybe I can get lunch with you and Amy when I'm in LA?

xo

totally

[TSPornFan]

That sucks Joanna that you seem traumatized by that. Still makes you a badass.

There's a lot of ways that girls are making stands in the industry right now, sometimes it doesn't feel like we have each others backs, are just out for ourselves etc...but in my experience there are some really solid girls right now.

I think there is one other major problem girls are not standing up for. Some American porno companies shot American girls in straight porn, but leave the country to shot transsexuals. Reality Kings is one of the top porno companies and has not shot a transsexual on their TS scene in many years. In fact they started the site with Americans but a few months later they only shot Brazilians. Lethal Hardcore is another known straight porn company who shots American women in straight porn, but only shot TS women outside of the US. Devils Films and Kink are the only two companies known for making straight porn who shoot TS women in America.

[Brittany St Jordan]

totally

Yes, I would enjoy a nice quiet lunch with Amy and Mandy ;)

[Brittany St Jordan]

Hello,

I have great respect for Brittany for jumping into this fight and I hope that when the time comes, you will step up and support her.

Thank you Joanna!!! That really means a lot to have you say that :-)

[tsmandy]

I think there is one other major problem girls are not standing up for. Some American porno companies shot American girls in straight porn, but leave the country to shot transsexuals. Reality Kings is one of the top porno companies and has not shot a transsexual on their TS scene in many years. In fact they started the site with Americans but a few months later they only shot Brazilians. Lethal Hardcore is another known straight porn company who shots American women in straight porn, but only shot TS women outside of the US. Devils Films and Kink are the only two companies known for making straight porn who shoot TS women in America.

So does Evil. Reality Kings/ Bang Bro started a TS site in the US recently and failed miserably due to their idiotic marketing aimed at a gay audience calling Kimber and Jesse "hot gay dudes with boobs" and they tanked. TS are cheaper elsewhere and this is biz.

[AmyDaly]

http://www.xbiz.net/index.php?c=discussion.view_thread&id=5550&offset=50#p52551

This thread is full of transsexual bashing:
https://p.twimg.com/AkDQOXMCAAA56vx.jpg

[Tiffany Starr]

With what Brittney has experienced I can now say i'm glad i missed the awards to do a shoot. We deserve the same rights as everyone and Jesse and Brittany should have been treated like the women they are not anything less.

[tvd]

Im just a fan but this reminds me of how the Rap and Metal genres were treated in the late 80s/early 90's at the Grammys and such. Remember when Jethro Tull won the best heavy metal performance over Metallica?

My other 2 cents. I was a huge Bailey Jay fan but her body of work and lack of any online presence the past year has put her in the back of the bus to me. As a fan I love seeing the constant new work and promotion of alot of the TS stars on this board. Oh and she got fat.

[GroobySteven]

http://www.xbiz.net/index.php?c=discussion.view_thread&id=5550&offset=50#p52551

This thread is full of transsexual bashing:
https://p.twimg.com/AkDQOXMCAAA56vx.jpg


You can see the arguments I've had with him in the past ... or don't bother they're not worth it.
He's the one who won't shoot model if she's ever performered with a (paraphrased) "nigger because it's ruined her".
He's not a major part of the industry, just a failed producer.

[AmyDaly]

You can see the arguments I've had with him in the past ... or don't bother they're not worth it.
He's the one who won't shoot model if she's ever performered with a (paraphrased) "nigger because it's ruined her".
He's not a major part of the industry, just a failed producer.

I sent an email to someone at xbiz. I am gonna try and see if they will ban him lol

[TSMichelleAustin]

Jazmine Jewels....

WOW What a great thing you wrote! I dont always agree with you, but this has to be a great thing and more people in this biz should hear that. We have a lot in common, we both are not accepted in this niche by most companies because we are outside the box. You being a MILF and I being BBW. You are right mainstream has big success with older women and BBW... but not our niche. We just have to do our thing and produce our stuff and reap the benefits. Just keep doing your thing! Im going to keep doing mine! Maybe one day someone will see the benefit of not just using girls who are barley legal, who doesnt have a clue to who they are and become jaded before they leave the biz. I think maturer girls know who they are and what they want and can last longer in this biz!