Wag the Fucking Dog...

[chefmike]

Wag the Fucking Dog, shrubya...

The Shoe (Bomb) on the Other Foot
President Bush’s revelation about a foiled bomb plot shows the dangers of declassification for purely partisan purposes.

By Jonathan Alter
Newsweek
Updated: 6:37 p.m. ET Feb. 10, 2006
Feb. 10, 2006 - Poor Porter Goss. First, the longtime Florida congressman leaves his safe seat to become director of the CIA, only to find that he’s been neutered by a new bureaucratic setup where he reports to John Negroponte, the director of national intelligence. Then he writes an op-ed piece decrying intelligence leaks in The New York Times on Friday, the exact same day as a story appears identifying today’s biggest leaker of antiterrorism secrets in Washington—President George W. Bush.

For crass political reasons—namely to advance his position on the National Security Agency spying story—the president chose to use a speech to the National Guard Association to disclose details of a 2002 “shoe bomb” plot to blow up the U.S. Bank Tower, the tallest building in Los Angeles. While the plot had been revealed in general terms in the past, the White House this week arranged for Bush’s counterterrorism adviser, Frances Fragos Townsend, to explain to reporters in a conference call exactly the kind of details that Goss claimed on the op-ed page helped the enemy. “We are at risk of losing a key battle,” Goss wrote. “The battle to protect our classification system.”

That system is at particular risk when it is exploited for political purposes. The president is allowed to declassify whatever he wants; that’s one of the privileges of being president. So in this case—unlike the NSA’s warrantless eavesdropping—there is no issue of Bush breaking the law. But let’s be clear on what this was: a deliberate effort to use declassification for partisan purposes, in this case, defending the administration’s policy on NSA surveillance, which Karl Rove says publicly will be a big part of the 2006 midterm campaign.

The White House made perfect political use of the twilight zone of intelligence. While Townsend did not explicitly claim that the NSA surveillance program had foiled the Los Angeles plot, she tried to imply that it might have played a role. “We use all available sources and methods in the intelligence community but we have to protect them,” she told reporters. “So I’m not going to talk about what ones we did or didn’t use in this particular case.”

the rest of story here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11279032/site/newsweek/)

[speck]

Oh please,

Why do you keep presenting opinion articles as fact?

I find it absoutely hilarious that lefties continually rag on conservatives who view FOX news, but find it perfectly acceptable to #1.) Tout BBC as unbiased(Brwhaahahahhahah!) and #2.) perpetually use opinion articles to back their positions.

[Kramer]

because some liberals cant get past losing the white house...................................twice!! :lol:


I cant wait till 2008! Polls already have Hillary trailing McCain and Guiliani!

[chefmike]

Oh please,

Why do you keep presenting opinion articles as fact?

I find it absoutely hilarious that lefties continually rag on conservatives who view FOX news, but find it perfectly acceptable to #1.) Tout BBC as unbiased(Brwhaahahahhahah!) and #2.) perpetually use opinion articles to back their positions.

Are you saying that these events, and the quotes pertaining to them are false?

The hypocrisy is obvious, as it always is with the neo-con agenda...and yes, there is an opinion....

Wag the Fucking Dog...

[chefmike]

because some liberals cant get past losing the white house...................................twice!! :lol:


I cant wait till 2008! Polls already have Hillary trailing McCain and Guiliani!

What makes you think that the religious right, who control the party that hypocrital TS fans like yourself support, would ever allow mccain or guiliani to be nominated?

oh, I forgot...you don't think...you just say baaahh, baaaahhh...

[Jamie Michelle]

because some liberals cant get past losing the white house...................................twice!! :lol:


I cant wait till 2008! Polls already have Hillary trailing McCain and Guiliani!

What makes you think that the religious right, who control the party that hypocrital TS fans like yourself support, would ever allow mccain or guiliani to be nominated?

oh, I forgot...you don't think...you just say baaahh, baaaahhh...

The Democrat and Republican politicians are on the same team. They are two arms on the same globalist elite beast.

Concerning your comment on "the religious right," both the parties belong to "the religious right," in the original sense of the political term "right" (i.e., as in "right-wing"). The terms "left" and "right" in the political sense go back to 1789 France. When the French Estates-General met on May 6, 1789, the Third Estate commoners, who wanted less taxes and government control (i.e., "laissez-faire"), were seated on the left side of King Louis XVI, and the Second Estate nobles and First Estate clergy, who were the conservatives and wanted to maintain the government's power, sat on his right. (Prior to the May 1789 convention of the French Estates-General [the first meeting of which was on May 5, 1789], the last time the Estates-General had met was in 1614.)

Also, "liberal" originally meant what we would call today (at least in the U.S. and Canada) "libertarian," i.e., laissez-faire free market, less taxes, less regulation, and gun ownership by the common people. Thus, in the original sense of the words, someone who wanted no taxes, legalization of all drugs, a free market, and armament of the common people would be a left-wing liberal.

Thus, both parties are right-wing in the original sense of the term. Which is to say, both parties are socialist (which is the most right-wing political philosophy ever devised, since it puts all power into the hands of government).

As far as the "religious" component of your comment goes, the political establishment is indeed quite religious. The god they worship is, quite literally, Satan. For more on that, see the below post by me:

Reply #40 on: November 05, 2004, 07:31:40 pm:

http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11993;st art=40

[chefmike]

because some liberals cant get past losing the white house...................................twice!! :lol:


I cant wait till 2008! Polls already have Hillary trailing McCain and Guiliani!

What makes you think that the religious right, who control the party that hypocrital TS fans like yourself support, would ever allow mccain or guiliani to be nominated?

oh, I forgot...you don't think...you just say baaahh, baaaahhh...

The Democrat and Republican politicians are on the same team. They are two arms on the same globalist elite beast.

Concerning your comment on "the religious right," both the parties belong to "the religious right," in the original sense of the political term "right" (i.e., as in "right-wing"). The terms "left" and "right" in the political sense go back to 1789 France. When the French Estates-General met on May 6, 1789, the Third Estate commoners, who wanted less taxes and government control (i.e., "laissez-faire"), were seated on the left side of King Louis XVI, and the Second Estate nobles and First Estate clergy, who were the conservatives and wanted to maintain the government's power, sat on his right. (Prior to the May 1789 convention of the French Estates-General [the first meeting of which was on May 5, 1789], the last time the Estates-General had met was in 1614.)

Also, "liberal" originally meant what we would call today (at least in the U.S. and Canada) "libertarian," i.e., laissez-faire free market, less taxes, less regulation, and gun ownership by the common people. Thus, in the original sense of the words, someone who wanted no taxes, legalization of all drugs, a free market, and armament of the common people would be a left-wing liberal.

Thus, both parties are right-wing in the original sense of the term. Which is to say, both parties are socialist (which is the most right-wing political philosophy ever devised, since it puts all power into the hands of government).

As far as the "religious" component of your comment goes, the political establishment is indeed quite religious. The god they worship is, quite literally, Satan. For more on that, see the below post by me:

Reply #40 on: November 05, 2004, 07:31:40 pm:

http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11993;st art=40

Not again with the satan worshipping globalist elite 9/11 bullshit...

why don't you tell us again how you met jesus?

and wherever you met him, please go back!!!

enuf already....

http://usera.imagecave.com/chefmike/run.gif

[Jamie Michelle]

because some liberals cant get past losing the white house...................................twice!! :lol:


I cant wait till 2008! Polls already have Hillary trailing McCain and Guiliani!

What makes you think that the religious right, who control the party that hypocrital TS fans like yourself support, would ever allow mccain or guiliani to be nominated?

oh, I forgot...you don't think...you just say baaahh, baaaahhh...

The Democrat and Republican politicians are on the same team. They are two arms on the same globalist elite beast.

Concerning your comment on "the religious right," both the parties belong to "the religious right," in the original sense of the political term "right" (i.e., as in "right-wing"). The terms "left" and "right" in the political sense go back to 1789 France. When the French Estates-General met on May 6, 1789, the Third Estate commoners, who wanted less taxes and government control (i.e., "laissez-faire"), were seated on the left side of King Louis XVI, and the Second Estate nobles and First Estate clergy, who were the conservatives and wanted to maintain the government's power, sat on his right. (Prior to the May 1789 convention of the French Estates-General [the first meeting of which was on May 5, 1789], the last time the Estates-General had met was in 1614.)

Also, "liberal" originally meant what we would call today (at least in the U.S. and Canada) "libertarian," i.e., laissez-faire free market, less taxes, less regulation, and gun ownership by the common people. Thus, in the original sense of the words, someone who wanted no taxes, legalization of all drugs, a free market, and armament of the common people would be a left-wing liberal.

Thus, both parties are right-wing in the original sense of the term. Which is to say, both parties are socialist (which is the most right-wing political philosophy ever devised, since it puts all power into the hands of government).

As far as the "religious" component of your comment goes, the political establishment is indeed quite religious. The god they worship is, quite literally, Satan. For more on that, see the below post by me:

Reply #40 on: November 05, 2004, 07:31:40 pm:

http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11993;st art=40

Not again with the satan worshipping globalist elite 9/11 bullshit...

why don't you tell us again how you met jesus?

and wherever you met him, please go back!!!

enuf already....


The facts are the facts, and the truth is the truth, and it is the provable fact that the political elite--such as the Bushes--worship Satan. They have been caught on video a number of times performing their dark, occultic, devil-worshipping rituals, such as at Bohemian Grove and at the Brotherhood of Death's (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones) "Tomb." And it is the case that Freemasonry at the highest levels is Satan-worship, as the highest-level Freemasonic writers and authorities themselves admit in their own writings. So also it is the case that governments around the world are Freemasonic in their foundation and design, and that they make extensive use of Freemasonic, Illuministic, Satanic symbolism, such as the Devil's Pentagram for the layout of Washington, D.C. I'm sorry that the truth is too brutal and scary for you to come to terms with it, but denying the truth does not make it go away.

The political elite, such as George Bush, Sr., are also particularly found of having sex with young, child sex-slave boys.

[The American Nightmare]

[yadda yadda yadda]
Ban please.

Thanks.

[speck]

No, I'm saying that the quotes don't add anything. They are just kinda there without supporting any particular point the opinion writer is expressing.

Almost like the opinion writer has no fact to directly support their point of view so they just throw quotes in there to make it appear as though they do.



Oh please,

Why do you keep presenting opinion articles as fact?

I find it absoutely hilarious that lefties continually rag on conservatives who view FOX news, but find it perfectly acceptable to #1.) Tout BBC as unbiased(Brwhaahahahhahah!) and #2.) perpetually use opinion articles to back their positions.

Are you saying that these events, and the quotes pertaining to them are false?

The hypocrisy is obvious, as it always is with the neo-con agenda...and yes, there is an opinion....

Wag the Fucking Dog...

[speck]

The facts are the facts, and the truth is the truth, and it is the provable fact that the political elite--such as the Bushes--worship Satan. They have been caught on video a number of times performing their dark, occultic, devil-worshipping rituals, such as at Bohemian Grove and at the Brotherhood of Death's (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones) "Tomb." And it is the case that Freemasonry at the highest levels is Satan-worship, as the highest-level Freemasonic writers and authorities themselves admit in their own writings. So also it is the case that governments around the world are Freemasonic in their foundation and design, and that they make extensive use of Freemasonic, Illuministic, Satanic symbolism, such as the Devil's Pentagram for the layout of Washington, D.C. I'm sorry that the truth is too brutal and scary for you to come to terms with it, but denying the truth does not make it go away.

The political elite, such as George Bush, Sr., are also particularly found of having sex with young, child sex-slave boys.

Post links to the videos and I will accept what you say.

Very simple

[Kramer]

What makes you think that the religious right, who control the party that hypocrital TS fans like yourself support, would ever allow mccain or guiliani to be nominated?


That is a very legitmate angle. The religious right will have to bend a little on this because there isnt a better canidate out there, right now anyway. McCain and Rudy are more centrist and thus would get more votes than GW got last election. They would get the on the fence vote as well as the anti liberal crowd.

[Jamie Michelle]

The facts are the facts, and the truth is the truth, and it is the provable fact that the political elite--such as the Bushes--worship Satan. They have been caught on video a number of times performing their dark, occultic, devil-worshipping rituals, such as at Bohemian Grove and at the Brotherhood of Death's (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones) "Tomb." And it is the case that Freemasonry at the highest levels is Satan-worship, as the highest-level Freemasonic writers and authorities themselves admit in their own writings. So also it is the case that governments around the world are Freemasonic in their foundation and design, and that they make extensive use of Freemasonic, Illuministic, Satanic symbolism, such as the Devil's Pentagram for the layout of Washington, D.C. I'm sorry that the truth is too brutal and scary for you to come to terms with it, but denying the truth does not make it go away.

The political elite, such as George Bush, Sr., are also particularly found of having sex with young, child sex-slave boys.

Post links to the videos and I will accept what you say.

Very simple

I already have posted such links, which you would know if you had read the documentary-resource link that I previously provided in this thread.

Concerning the hidden video caught of Bohemian Grove by journalist and documentary film-maker Alex Jones, see:

http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

Additionally, you can view clip excerpts Part 1 and Part 2 of Jon Ronson's "Secret Rulers of the World," which also documents Alex Jones' infiltration of Bohemian Grove, at the below link:

http://www.sacredcow.com/allnew/index_content.php?n=multimedia_video_alex

See also the full video "Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove" by documentary film-maker Alex Jones. Below you can download the entire documentary for free:

http://www.archive.org/details/DSIBG

Concerning the hidden video captured of an occult Brotherhood of Death (a.k.a. the Order of Skull & Bones) ritual, see the below article by me:

"April 23, 2001 ABC News Report on Hidden Video Captured of Skull & Bones Ritual," October 4, 2005:

http://www.geocities.com/psyop911/skull-and-bones-2001-04-23-abc-report.html

For much more documentation on the ruling elite's obsession with dark occultism, see the below post by me:

Reply #40 on: November 05, 2004, 07:31:40 pm:

http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11993;st art=40

[chefmike]

:screwy :spam

[Jamie Michelle]

:screwy :spam

Apparently your "screwy" icon refers to your own notion that what I post is "spam." Nowhere have I ever posted spam. As far as journalist and documentary film-maker Alex Jones, he tells people to make as many copies of his videos as they can and to pass them out to people for free in order to educate people. Hence, I provided a link to where people could download his entire documentary video Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove for free at the Internet Archive.

I also see that you cannot make a coherent argument against what I have been proving up one side and down the other. When you decide to stop running away from the brutal truth which scares you so much, be sure to let me know.

[chefmike]

:screwy :spam

Apparently your "screwy" icon refers to your own notion that what I post is "spam." Nowhere have I ever posted spam. As far as journalist and documentary film-maker Alex Jones, he tells people to make as many copies of his videos as they can and to pass them out to people for free in order to educate people. Hence, I provided a link to where people could download his entire documentary video Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove for free at the Internet Archive.

I also see that you cannot make a coherent argument against what I have been proving up one side and down the other. When you decide to stop running away from the brutal truth which scares you so much, be sure to let me know.

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest...

You are indeed living proof that there are still valid arguments for radical measures such as straitjackets, padded cells, and shock treatment...

get some therapy before it's too late...

http://photobucket.com/albums/a78/chefmike_/th_run.gif

[Jamie Michelle]

:screwy :spam

Apparently your "screwy" icon refers to your own notion that what I post is "spam." Nowhere have I ever posted spam. As far as journalist and documentary film-maker Alex Jones, he tells people to make as many copies of his videos as they can and to pass them out to people for free in order to educate people. Hence, I provided a link to where people could download his entire documentary video Dark Secrets: Inside Bohemian Grove for free at the Internet Archive.

I also see that you cannot make a coherent argument against what I have been proving up one side and down the other. When you decide to stop running away from the brutal truth which scares you so much, be sure to let me know.

One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest...

You are indeed living proof that there are still valid arguments for radical measures such as straitjackets, padded cells, and shock treatment...

get some therapy before it's too late...


It's not surprising that you would say that, considering that you are unable to make a coherent argument against the proven facts which I have presented, and considering that you are unable to come to terms with the brutal truth which scares you so much. Like I said previously, if you ever decide to stop running away from the brutal truth which scares you so much, be sure to let me know.

[samstl99]

Well for once I agree with ChefMike and Nightmare.

Jamie Michelle give us a break. You are being ridiculous. You know anyone can go out and make a "documentary" film and post it as fact. Things are so biased it cant be taken serious. So next you are going to say that there are vampires and werewolves among us.

Also in regards to FreeMasons. They are NOT satanist. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Freemasons and Templars are DO NOT pray and ritualize Satan. There are other societies out there that do ritualize the Mother Earth, etc. But that does NOT make them Satanists.

Masons believe in the development and betterment of Men (ie Mankind)


No one knows with certainty how or when the Masonic Fraternity was formed. A widely accepted theory among Masonic scholars is that it arose from the stonemasons’ guilds during the Middle Ages. The language and symbols used in the fraternity’s rituals come from this era. The oldest document that makes reference to Masons is the Regius Poem, printed about 1390, which was a copy of an earlier work. In 1717, four lodges in London formed the first Grand Lodge of England, and records from that point on are more complete.

Within thirty years, the fraternity had spread throughout Europe and the American Colonies. Freemasonry became very popular in colonial America. George Washington was a Mason, Benjamin Franklin served as the head of the fraternity in Pennsylvania, as did Paul Revere and Joseph Warren in Massachusetts. Other well-known Masons involved with the founding of America included John Hancock, John Sullivan, Lafayette, Baron Fredrick von Stuben, Nathanael Greene, and John Paul Jones. Another Mason, Chief Justice John Marshall, shaped the Supreme Court into its present form.

Over the centuries, Freemasonry has developed into a worldwide fraternity emphasizing personal study, self-improvement, and social betterment via individual involvement and philanthropy. During the late 1700s it was one of the organizations most responsible for spreading the ideals of the Enlightenment: the dignity of man and the liberty of the individual, the right of all persons to worship as they choose, the formation of democratic governments, and the importance of public education. Masons supported the first public schools in both Europe and America.

During the 1800s and early 1900s, Freemasonry grew dramatically. At that time, the government had provided no social "safety net". The Masonic tradition of founding orphanages, homes for widows, and homes for the aged provided the only security many people knew.

Today in North America, the Masonic Fraternity continues this tradition by giving almost $1.5 million each day to causes that range from operating children’s hospitals, providing treatment for childhood language disorders, treating eye diseases, funding medical research, contributing to local community service, and providing care to Masons and their families at Masonic Homes.

The four million Masons worldwide continue to help men and women face the problems of the 21st century by building bridges of brotherhood and instilling in the hearts of men ideals for a better tomorrow.

[Jamie Michelle]

Well for once I agree with ChefMike and Nightmare.

Jamie Michelle give us a break. You are being ridiculous. You know anyone can go out and make a "documentary" film and post it as fact. Things are so biased it cant be taken serious. So next you are going to say that there are vampires and werewolves among us.


Even the political establishment themselves admit that the documentary is genuine. You would know that it is geniune yourself if you had bothered to watch it. But instead you speak whereof you know not, i.e., you talk out of your ass, to use more pedestrian terminology.



Also in regards to FreeMasons. They are NOT satanist. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Freemasons and Templars are DO NOT pray and ritualize Satan. There are other societies out there that do ritualize the Mother Earth, etc. But that does NOT make them Satanists.


Again, you speak whereof you know not. As I have said previously, most Freemasons are simply dues-paying dupes who don't know that they're supporting a Lucifer-worshiping, New Age, New World Order religion at the highest levels. The most highly regarded Freemasonic writers and authorities themselves admit in their own writings that Freemasonry is Lucifer-worship at the highest levels.

So whereas my detractors here in this forum talk out of their asses, I speak with the proven facts. For more on this, see the below documentary-resource:

Reply #40 on: November 05, 2004, 07:31:40 pm:

http://anti-state.com/forum/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=11993;st art=40



Masons believe in the development and betterment of Men (ie Mankind)


No one knows with certainty how or when the Masonic Fraternity was formed. A widely accepted theory among Masonic scholars is that it arose from the stonemasons’ guilds during the Middle Ages. The language and symbols used in the fraternity’s rituals come from this era. The oldest document that makes reference to Masons is the Regius Poem, printed about 1390, which was a copy of an earlier work. In 1717, four lodges in London formed the first Grand Lodge of England, and records from that point on are more complete.

Within thirty years, the fraternity had spread throughout Europe and the American Colonies. Freemasonry became very popular in colonial America. George Washington was a Mason, Benjamin Franklin served as the head of the fraternity in Pennsylvania, as did Paul Revere and Joseph Warren in Massachusetts. Other well-known Masons involved with the founding of America included John Hancock, John Sullivan, Lafayette, Baron Fredrick von Stuben, Nathanael Greene, and John Paul Jones. Another Mason, Chief Justice John Marshall, shaped the Supreme Court into its present form.

Over the centuries, Freemasonry has developed into a worldwide fraternity emphasizing personal study, self-improvement, and social betterment via individual involvement and philanthropy. During the late 1700s it was one of the organizations most responsible for spreading the ideals of the Enlightenment: the dignity of man and the liberty of the individual, the right of all persons to worship as they choose, the formation of democratic governments, and the importance of public education. Masons supported the first public schools in both Europe and America.

During the 1800s and early 1900s, Freemasonry grew dramatically. At that time, the government had provided no social "safety net". The Masonic tradition of founding orphanages, homes for widows, and homes for the aged provided the only security many people knew.

Today in North America, the Masonic Fraternity continues this tradition by giving almost $1.5 million each day to causes that range from operating children’s hospitals, providing treatment for childhood language disorders, treating eye diseases, funding medical research, contributing to local community service, and providing care to Masons and their families at Masonic Homes.

The four million Masons worldwide continue to help men and women face the problems of the 21st century by building bridges of brotherhood and instilling in the hearts of men ideals for a better tomorrow.

[chefmike]

Jamie, you've told us that you met jesus...

but you never answered J's question...

was jesus "well-hung?"

after all, he was a carpenter...

[Jamie Michelle]

Jamie, you've told us that you met jesus...

but you never answered J's question...

was jesus "well-hung?"

after all, he was a carpenter...

I'm not familiar with the notion of carpenters being well-hung. As to Jesus Christ's state of "hungness," since He's God, he can be as hung or un-hung as he wants to be.

[chefmike]

Well why don't you ask him?

Did it really only take 3 nails?

Now that's carpentry...

[Jamie Michelle]

Well why don't you ask him?

Did it really only take 3 nails?

Now that's carpentry...

Ask Him what? If you have a question for Him, ask Him yourself.