African-American Tgirls

[Tiff_in_a_Skirt]

Ever notice the seeming disproportionately high number of black tgirls out there? I wonder why. Are there undo overly masculine pressures put on young black boys that make them envy the life of a girl? I don't know. Any ideas?

[Legend]

Ever notice the seeming disproportionately high number of black tgirls out there? I wonder why. Are there undo overly masculine pressures put on young black boys that make them envy the life of a girl? I don't know. Any ideas?


WTF

[idiot savant]

i think you puff one to many times.put that shit down and get some fresh air.

[eagleman12]

Really never thought of it and really don't care
I just love that they are out there because those are my favorites!
:claps :peanutbutter:jerkoff

[Jasadin]

I've looked at the ? a few times and I don't see it.I don't think there is a disproportionate amount of black tgirls out.If anything you might notice it them more cause the numbers are fewer than other groups of tgirls.I don't think that the stresses of life are making blacks males want to find refuge in being a girl.I guess I just totally disagree :?

[robbie]

hmmmm....

I think the premise for the question is flawed -- on at least two levels:

First, is there any credible evidence that there really is a disproportionate number of black t-girls?

Second, are "undo overly masculine pressures" the reason t-girls choose to be TG? Suggesting that society made them that way?

My guess on the first is, likely not. And on the second, nonsense. But what do I know. I'm just glad for all the lovely tgirls.

[MarylandsMighty]

I prefer black t-girls. Yes, yes, perhaps I have some "gay" issues. So freaking what. lol. I like em. As for disproportionate to proportionate? No clue. Although it seems there is more of a market for black t girls to escort or do porn. So in that world, sure there are many.

[BlackAdder]

Seems that way in philadelphia...there are many more black tgirls here then any other species. Considering how homophobic the black community is according to my ex-girlfriend that fact has always had me scratching my head..


Why so many black tgirls in the tri-state area??

[rick_932]

Seems that way in philadelphia...there are many more black tgirls here then any other species. Considering how homophobic the black community is according to my ex-girlfriend that fact has always had me scratching my head..


Why so many black tgirls in the tri-state area??

blacks are about as homophobic as any other race...generalizations suck.

[Jasadin]

Seems that way in philadelphia...there are many more black tgirls here then any other species. Considering how homophobic the black community is according to my ex-girlfriend that fact has always had me scratching my head..


Why so many black tgirls in the tri-state area??

IMO Blacks are not any more homophobic than any other group.We only occupy like 12.3% (34.6 million)of the population according to the census.Around 55.3% are in the south,18.1%v northeast,18.1% midwest,8.6 % west.So if there is a higher population density of blacks in a area it may seem to have more tgirls.Only cause more black people are there.

[flabbybody]

I've heard the latino culture is kind of intolerent of gays but I'm not sure how that would translate into a higher percentage of transgendered individuals among that group.

Isin't transexualism something you're born with and has nothing to do with race or culture?

[RangeHova]

Hell, I'll bite. I won't throw the original poster under the bus like so many others. I think it is a good question. It is not without flaws but I applaud the poster for going deeper than dick sizes and fucking.

I don't know if numbers of transsexuals among Afrocan Americans is higher but I do think Black TS are disproportionally more visable overall. For many years it has been relatively easy to find a sizable click of Black TS girls in almost any decent sized urban area.

Do I think that the attitudes to manhood vs femininity effect the Black TS, yes. I think the fact that being feminine within ones mind goes so far against what Black men are told that a TS facing that is more likely to know at a younger age that that whole machismo thing is not who they are.

I don't ever think these factors will turn a non TS into a TS. But I think those factors will enable a TS to accept those feelings and be less likely to keep them within. Think about it, some doctor's believe that most TS women never take the plunge and go on to live lifes as men complete with wives, kids, beer bellies and beards. It is more common for some to take those feelings and never face them.

You are much less likely to find older Black transwomen that transition later in life than thier white counterparts. So we can't deny that thier are some cultural differences.

But I think there are much more factors involved than the machismo/homophobia thing. Such as the proximity to larger cities that so many Blacks reside plays a part. The access to gay and trans subculture. Also the fact that Black gay culture is more open to trans women than white gay culture. I've seen in many cities where the only outlet for white trans women is in more minority groupings.

That acceptance by the Black gay community plays a big part. I've seen some girls that go the TS route just because it offers them an indentity, only to later find that they really aren't truly TS women. I've seen it with all kinds of girls but a lot more with Black girls.

That whole spacial aspect is not just a Black thing, look at all of the young girls that you find in cities like New York and LA (of all races). Access plays a huge part.

[brickcitybrother]

Ever notice the seeming disproportionately high number of black tgirls out there? I wonder why. Are there undo overly masculine pressures put on young black boys that make them envy the life of a girl? I don't know. Any ideas?




Is this enough?

[Tiff_in_a_Skirt]

Is this enough?[/quote]

So on a transgender discussion board we can discuss dick sizes or Dick Cheney, but any serious discussion of race and transgenderism is unwelcome?

[Jasadin]

Hell, I'll bite. I won't throw the original poster under the bus like so many others. I think it is a good question. It is not without flaws but I applaud the poster for going deeper than dick sizes and fucking.


Ditto

[RangeHova]

Yeah, I don't see a problem with looking at the effect of high levels of machismo and the attitudes towards the definition of what is feminine and what is masculine combined with certain forms of homophobia plays on the psyche of those in within that culture.

It is never as simple of one factor but there are cultural differences.

Here in the US, African Americans only represent about 12% of the entire population. I don't know the numbers of Blalck TS women but it woud appear to me that the numbers are higher than 12% of the TS women that make themselves viewable and known.

[lurker]

And don't forget about class differences. (Referring to income rather than couth or uncouth.)

Look at the various pages about successful TSs (posted elsewhere) and you will see doctors, actors, computer programmers, and engineers and such. Regardless of whne thee people transitioned, they had the resources to get an education adn avoid getting caught in the sex industry we ll see everyday.

So many girls start out saying I'm only going escort/porn to pay for my surgeries or go back to school. Then get caught up and never get out.Those walking the streets may have never even thought they could find a better way. But there are "invisible" TSs who blend into society and use their resources to become the women they've always wanted to be .... how can we know what percentage of them are black/white/latino or whatever.

[drock]

I wonder how you came up with this bullshit>

[deebo]

I wonder how you came up with this bullshit>

[MISTYNITELY]

WTF?Every time i turn around there is some stupid motherfuker saying dum ass shit about black tgirls on hungangels.How dare u disrespect our children by saying that shit about black boys.We are ts by choice not by pressure from anyone.We dont blame shit on our families like most white counterparts do as they wait till thy are 40 to do what they need to do for their mental survival[thats why allot of times white ts girls arent prettyand very bitter]}Are u jealous their isnt enuff of you running around may be u need to tell ur little white boys to have some balls?And as for latin they dont even count as white beacuse in my book they are distant cousin to{pr,dr,panama,brazil] blacks.Now if u take a look at some of these sites allot of the trannys u see and base ur foolisness on are in fact NOT TS they are cd /tv.Now if the sites ran around doing shoots with evrywhite /latin tv /cd witha wig u could say the same thing .BLACK{AND ITS DIASPORA] IS BEAUTIFUL!!!! AND HERE IS MY ASS FOR U TOO KISS

[Jasadin]

As usual race,religion and politics :roll:

[Reddman]

As usual race,religion and politics :roll:

Not really I don't see where religion or politics intersect in Tiff's original question. He does not note where he lives but like others have pointed out if there's a significant population presence of Black folks hence more Black t gurls. The other part regarding Black male kids opting out to TS is just straight ignorance on his part (on an number of topics) or maybe it was a shot. BTW Tiff where you from anyway???.

[GroobySteven]

WTF?Every time i turn around there is some stupid motherfuker saying dum ass shit about black tgirls on hungangels.How dare u disrespect our children by saying that shit about black boys.We are ts by choice not by pressure from anyone.We dont blame shit on our families like most white counterparts do as they wait till thy are 40 to do what they need to do for their mental survival[thats why allot of times white ts girls arent prettyand very bitter]}Are u jealous their isnt enuff of you running around may be u need to tell ur little white boys to have some balls?And as for latin they dont even count as white beacuse in my book they are distant cousin to{pr,dr,panama,brazil] blacks.Now if u take a look at some of these sites allot of the trannys u see and base ur foolisness on are in fact NOT TS they are cd /tv.Now if the sites ran around doing shoots with evrywhite /latin tv /cd witha wig u could say the same thing .BLACK{AND ITS DIASPORA] IS BEAUTIFUL!!!! AND HERE IS MY ASS FOR U TOO KISS


That's a pretty ignorant comeback. By all means comeback and call him a stupid shit for original comment but have some tact and sensibility about the way your calling the white tgirls as it's just incorrect and shows you're as ignorant and biased as he is.
As someone whose worked with tgirls of all races (and I've detailed why I believe there are more from certain countries recently here) I can say that it's got nothing to do with black kids or white kids in the USA being given more freedom or encouragement or otherwise. Your just devolving into a stupid race game.
seanchai

[Jasadin]

As usual race,religion and politics :roll:

Not really I don't see where religion or politics intersect in Tiff's original question. He does not note where he lives but like others have pointed out if there's a significant population presence of Black folks hence more Black t gurls. The other part regarding Black male kids opting out to TS is just straight ignorance on his part (on an number of topics) or maybe it was a shot. BTW Tiff where you from anyway???.


I just meant that these are explosive topics that's all.Most of the time anger is the result once a person is offended.I didn't mean all three pertain to this.