LA Mandates Condoms in Porn shoots in LA

[TSMichelleAustin]

LA makes it manditory for all porn shoots in LA County to shoot with condoms.... what will happen to all the straight porn? And what will happen to Christian fucking a lot of our favorite TS Models BB for Shemale Yum, Strokers and Shemale Pornstar? LOL

http://www.xbiz.com/news/143297

LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles City Council, 9-1, approved a new ordinance Tuesday requiring that all adult film actors wear condoms when filming within the city limits.

The ordinance, when it goes into effect, will allow the LAPD to perform spot checks on any set once a film permit is issued.

Officials from LAPD, Cal/OSHA and the city attorney’s office will make recommendations on how to implement the ordinance.

The vote was a second procedural vote on the ordinance and required only a simple majority of the council to give final approval.

The Free Speech Coalition said that the adult industry trade group is in discussions with industry leaders and considering options for next steps.

[BellaBellucci]

LMFAO at your subtitle. :lol:

I always use condoms, and I don't agree with mandatory condom use, but I will admit this will level the playing field. It will be interesting to see how things unfold.

~BB~

PS: I'll be waiting for y'all down here in OC. :dancing:

[SunshyneMonroe]

Joey is gonna be PISSED lol

[TSMichelleAustin]

Well I dont know how far it is, I mean Strokers might get away because he is down further out of city, Grooby might be far enough out too! I was just joking, but I dont agree either I think it should be model's choice!

[FreddieGomez]

bleh at puttin yo dick in someone's ass raw

[TSMichelleAustin]

Dude its not even just Tranny porn its all porn! Str8 porn will have to cover to fuck a pussy! So read!

[onmyknees]

bleh at puttin yo dick in someone's ass raw

I don't know about that....but I saw Morgan putting the wood to some dude recently ( not in person...lol) and it was pretty raw, and pretty fuckin' hot.

[SunshyneMonroe]

Dude its not even just Tranny porn its all porn! Str8 porn will have to cover to fuck a pussy! So read!

They should have never started letting them read..

[MrsKellyPierce]

I still think this should be up to the model...glorifying condoms..and not glorifying testing has been ignorance on governments part.

If more people tested regularly - we would have less spread of STD's

Most people don't test, if they do it's when they are scared, and even then a lot don't.

Plus condoms do not protect against herpes..

[BellaBellucci]

If more people tested regularly - we would have less spread of STD's.

A guy gets a clean test on Saturday, barebacks a hooker on Sunday, and shoots with you on Monday.

Still believe in testing?

~BB~

[MrsKellyPierce]

A guy gets a clean test on Saturday, barebacks a hooker on Sunday, and shoots with you on Monday.

Still believe in testing?

~BB~
I'm not talking about porn performers, I'm saying the general population

[BellaBellucci]

I'm not talking about porn performers, I'm saying the general population

What difference does that make? :?

The solution is really to use both, not one to the exclusion of the other.

~BB~

[MrsKellyPierce]

What difference does that make? :?

The solution is really to use both, not one to the exclusion of the other.

~BB~
But people don't Bella - the average dummy - thinks if they wrap up they are safe!

[RallyCola]

LA makes it manditory for all porn shoots in LA County to shoot with condoms.... what will happen to all the straight porn? And what will happen to Christian fucking a lot of our favorite TS Models BB for Shemale Yum, Strokers and Shemale Pornstar? LOL

http://www.xbiz.com/news/143297

LOS ANGELES — The Los Angeles City Council, 9-1, approved a new ordinance Tuesday requiring that all adult film actors wear condoms when filming within the city limits.

The ordinance, when it goes into effect, will allow the LAPD to perform spot checks on any set once a film permit is issued.

Officials from LAPD, Cal/OSHA and the city attorney’s office will make recommendations on how to implement the ordinance.

The vote was a second procedural vote on the ordinance and required only a simple majority of the council to give final approval.

The Free Speech Coalition said that the adult industry trade group is in discussions with industry leaders and considering options for next steps.

i don't want to split hairs but since LA the city is in LA the county, which encompasses much more than the city...technically can't you film bareback in the City of Industry, Long Beach, Glendale, Burbank, Downey, etc and not in the city of LA and be ok with this new ordinance? The city council has no jurisdiction in the other cities in LA county.

[LibertyHarkness]

companies will just simply relocate to a different county ...its only in LA ... it also doesnt affect Europe, Asia, Brazil etc ..

Dont really see it going to cause much of an issue tbh ..

[BellaBellucci]

But people don't Bella - the average dummy - thinks if they wrap up they are safe!

Yeah, well, I can't argue with that.

~BB~

[LAGent4ts]

i don't want to split hairs but since LA the city is in LA the county, which encompasses much more than the city...technically can't you film bareback in the City of Industry, Long Beach, Glendale, Burbank, Downey, etc and not in the city of LA and be ok with this new ordinance? The city council has no jurisdiction in the other cities in LA county.

I think your correct since it was the City of Los Angeles and not the County of Los Angeles that is passing the ordiance.

And as far as splitting hairs, if the actual wording in the ordiance is requiring that all adult film actors wear condoms when filming within the city limits", then technically speaking, this does not apply to actresses, and thus should not apply to Transgendered individuals who have gone through whatever process it is to be legally recognized as a female. Obviously it will depend on the exact wording of the ordiance or if the word actor has a defined defination within the ordiance.

[AmyDaly]

I agree that we should be using condoms, but I am not for allowing government to be my nannny. What is this? They care about us enough to make us use condoms so we don't get STD's, but they don't care enough to give us government ran health care? You don't see them harassing hollywood movie sets because Stuntment get hurt or killed even.

[AmyDaly]

And as far as splitting hairs, if the actual wording in the ordiance is requiring that all adult film actors wear condoms when filming within the city limits", then technically speaking, this does not apply to actresses, and thus should not apply to Transgendered individuals who have gone through whatever process it is to be legally recognized as a female. Obviously it will depend on the exact wording of the ordiance or if the word actor has a defined defination within the ordiance.
lol that is a very interesting loophole for transsexuals. My only problem with that is that in acting, there is no more term Actor and Actress. Everyone is just called an Actor now. Some people still use both, but Actor is the PC term, so I would assume, that loophole would not work.

[LAGent4ts]

lol that is a very interesting loophole for transsexuals. My only problem with that is that in acting, there is no more term Actor and Actress. Everyone is just called an Actor now. Some people still use both, but Actor is the PC term, so I would assume, that loophole would not work.

A good point, however I believe that while the PC term may be actor for actors and actreses, that does not necessarily mean that it has been legally defined as such. Given the LA City Council, if it turns out there is a loophole, they will quickly try and close it.

And while I believe it should be the choice of the individuals to use or not to use protection, this is just another example of limiting one's freedom of choice. I find it curious why this is an issue in the first place. The only thing that immediately comes to mind would be the cost to the city in providing medical care to actors in the porn industry. If that is the reasoning, I would love to see the stats as I suspect it is nil.

It seems that every time a porn actor tests positive, it is front page news, but I never see a follow up about how many individuals were impacted by that person. Seems to me that the City Council could be addressing more important issues, as this will also take the time of LAPD away from catching drive by shooters and other criminals so they can drop by the set, grab a donut and check to see that everyone is gloved up.

[TSMichelleAustin]

I think your correct since it was the City of Los Angeles and not the County of Los Angeles that is passing the ordiance.

And as far as splitting hairs, if the actual wording in the ordiance is requiring that all adult film actors wear condoms when filming within the city limits", then technically speaking, this does not apply to actresses, and thus should not apply to Transgendered individuals who have gone through whatever process it is to be legally recognized as a female. Obviously it will depend on the exact wording of the ordiance or if the word actor has a defined defination within the ordiance.

Well it still hurts my friend Christian from fucking a tgirl bb! Since grooby and I think even Strokers are both filming in those areas. They will have to move to Vegas and shoot all that BB! LOL

[KarinaGiselle]

I agree with Amy, we should protect ourselves and not take unnecessary risks but, it's stupid that the government has to get in the way.

Personally, I though porn actors didn't shoot without condoms (a long way back), but I'm amazed at the amount of bareback shoots that are made. I would be scared to death of having sex without protection, let alone doing a porn shoot without wearing condoms or having my partner wearing one...

[caliuncut]

Yea, as its been pointed out this was passed only for the City of LA. That leaves tons of surrounding cities where this law does not apply. Though I'm not in the biz I bet a fair amount of porn is already not shot in the City of LA and if it is, move a couple miles down the road...lol

[nonnonnon]

fleshlight is the future haha
sex has become a liability

[Los Angeles resident]

I think porn filmmakers should self-police themselves and use condoms when shooting vaginal or anal sex, but not so much for oral sex, however I do not support the L.A. City Council passing this. I feel this new ordinance is overreach and will force porn filmmakers to leave L.A. California is once again chasing business out of the state with un-business-like policies.

[TSMichelleAustin]

I think porn filmmakers should self-police themselves and use condoms when shooting vaginal or anal sex, but not so much for oral sex, however I do not support the L.A. City Council passing this. I feel this new ordinance is overreach and will force porn filmmakers to leave L.A. California is once again chasing business out of the state with un-business-like policies.

agree with running out business, but I think lot of companies already shoot outside that area.

[bobvela]

I still think this should be up to the model...glorifying condoms..and not glorifying testing has been ignorance on governments part.

It's not about glorification... it's about control. The LA City Council obviously knows better than you or any model... why? Because you have implicitly given them this power by living, voting & paying taxes in such a city or state.

Vote with your feet, get the hell out of such a repressive city/county/state.

[BellaBellucci]

It's not about glorification... it's about control. The LA City Council obviously knows better than you or any model... why? Because you have implicitly given them this power by living, voting & paying taxes in such a city or state.

Vote with your feet, get the hell out of such a repressive city/county/state.

^ I don't know you, but I like the way you think.

~BB~

[bobvela]

agree with running out business, but I think lot of companies already shoot outside that area.

And yet so many still shoot in California.

Let’s face it... the nanny state mentality of this city ordinance is not too far removed from what we could see the state of California trying to implement at some point.

I will never understand why people are so keen to live and/or work in such a non-free state.

[bobvela]

^ I don't know you, but I like the way you think.

~BB~

Lets just say I am a medium term lurker who has come to like the way you think as well... only I think we may have a dissagreement or two with regards to copyright enforcement (SOPA bad, Grooby lawsuits are unfortunately warranted)... and the Q of if Ron Paul would make a good President today.

[BellaBellucci]

Lets just say I am a medium term lurker who has come to like the way you think as well... only I think we may have a dissagreement or two with regards to copyright enforcement (SOPA bad, Grooby lawsuits are unfortunately warranted)... and the Q of if Ron Paul would make a good President today.

Well, I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say, but I do expect them to defend my right to say it. I suspect you would, so it's nice to meet you.

~BB~

[natina]

well many motels and hotel in LA will suffer because you can not have police rushing into your movie set checking for condoms.

many movies or shot at hotels/motels

[bobvela]

Well, I don't expect everyone to agree with everything I say, but I do expect them to defend my right to say it. I suspect you would, so it's nice to meet you.

~BB~

I do... provided you are not one of those who voted for anyone who ultimately cast a vote in favor of PPaAFC (aka Obamacare)... in which case you cost me my rather good health insurance plan come the end of this year... to which I say to all such voters "Thanks! And I hope you appreciate the beat down you will get this fall both from SCOTUS but electorally, even though it will not restore my old plan, I still must say, f-you!"

... otherwise I am always up for a reasonable conversation as to politics and law.

[BellaBellucci]

I do... provided you are not one of those who voted for anyone who ultimately cast a vote in favor of PPaAFC (aka Obamacare)... in which case you cost me my rather good health insurance plan come the end of this year... to which I say to all such voters "Thanks! And I hope you appreciate the beat down you will get this fall both from SCOTUS but electorally, even though it will not restore my old plan, I still must say, f-you!"

... otherwise I am always up for a reasonable conversation as to politics and law.

I'm no friend of Obama or Obamacare. I think we're good to go. :lol:

~BB~

[bobvela]

I'm no friend of Obama or Obamacare. I think we're good to go. :lol:

~BB~

Delightful! I'd ask you to date or marry me (granted I live in a only slightly less free state (WA), but not as free as where I call home (which is far far colder))... only I expect I will be married her within the next few months due to an unplanned pregnancy with my girlfriend.

It is funny & sad when you think about it… the biggest risk you have when dating/sleeping with/being seen with a t-girl is ostracization from friends, family & co-workers who may not condone your particular attraction/lifestyle choice... in the case of ending up dating a GG... worst case is a pregnancy where the end result often is congratulations are received from all directions… not to mention legal issues which can/do trap you for 18+ years… grrr.

Anyone wanna help me out with a pre-marital fling?

[BellaBellucci]

I live in a only slightly less free state (WA), but not as free as where I call home (which is far far colder)

It wouldn't be New Hampshire by any chance, would it? That's my adopted home state, but I grew up in what I consider the least free state in the country, Massachusetts. But damn, Boston is still one beautiful place.


Anyone wanna help me out with a pre-marital fling?

I'm sure there are plenty of girls here who can help. Got any of these?

http://tips.webdesign10.com/files/flowers/red-roses-photo.jpg

~BB~

[bobvela]

It wouldn't be New Hampshire by any chance, would it? That's my adopted home state, but I grew up in what I consider the least free state in the country, Massachusetts. But damn, Boston is still one beautiful place.

I'm afraid not... to both places... While I grew up in the Democratic Peoples Republic of Minnesota... I call the Free State of (South) Dakota home... a place whose artwork adorns not only my home, but my mind. Oh how I miss it.



I'm sure there are plenty of girls here who can help. Got any of these?

http://tips.webdesign10.com/files/flowers/red-roses-photo.jpg

~BB~

'Hotlinking Disabled' you IP pirate you I'm afraid (I look forward to seeing what happens as a result of the inevitable lawsuits)... though such things are easily had... but do not get me to/what I want...

[Willie Escalade]

Film in Long Beach!

[BLKGSXR]

So they technically just have to go one county over? not too bad of a loss #win loopholes?

[CaptainPlanet]

Porns international itll still have Bareback scenes, plus most the LA shoots are in the Valley technically outside of LA so i don't know if thats going to play a major role in that?

[Brandi Boots]

so how many blokes from this site are applying for the "gobernment job of Condom Inspector for on-set movie shoots"? And do they have to wear a condom if they are spankin' it on the side while watching said action unfold?

[GroobySteven]

There is actually a loophole already in this new law I believe, which I don't think has been mentioned. You can shoot bareback if it's in a studio. Thus, define "studio".

Personally, I believe the industry should be 100% condom for penetrative sex. In the past we used to only allow actual partners to shoot bareback but when we had a full time production in Los Angeles with access to regular tests, and as so many of the performers wanted to do bareback, we left it to the individual models to choose.
Everything we shoot outside of LA and the UK is condom unless it's real-life partners.

[RallyCola]

condoms don't really detract from a scene...its cool to think of bareback but that's just a dangerous way to make a living.

but sometimes condoms really make the scene work!

Ribbed for her pleasure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YFC0O393DQ)

[Willie Escalade]

The majority of the San Fernando Valley is the City of Los Angeles. Canoga Park, Chatsworth, Northridge, Van Nuys, Reseda, North Hollywood...all neighborhoods in LA.

Again, since it's city-mandated, go to another city within the county and film. Burbank, Manhattan Beach, Vernon, Pasadena, Compton (!), even Lancaster or Avalon...you have choices. I'd still prefer Long Beach though...

[RallyCola]

is the bang bus still in business....why can't you just drive around outside of the city limits and film in the van?

[BluegrassCat]

I think the only councilman to vote against the measure is the one representing the Valley. No surprise there.

[christianxxx]

Just to be clear, the condom law is on permitted shoots. And in the past 10 years, i have been on exactly 0 TS sets where there has been a permit. And actually in straight porn, less than i would say 25 percent of the scenes shot each day have permits.

So really this doesn't affect us at all.

I don't mind doing condom scenes, but to be honest they are not passionate at all. I work with girls that are professionals, I trust them (maybe that is dumb of me) so if they have a test from less than 30 days and of course I always have a test from less than 30 days, I am fine doing non-condom. I would prefer it of course, because it makes the scene more intimate and passionate. There you go.

[EvonRose]

Just to be clear, the condom law is on permitted shoots. And in the past 10 years, i have been on exactly 0 TS sets where there has been a permit. And actually in straight porn, less than i would say 25 percent of the scenes shot each day have permits.

So really this doesn't affect us at all.

I don't mind doing condom scenes, but to be honest they are not passionate at all. I work with girls that are professionals, I trust them (maybe that is dumb of me) so if they have a test from less than 30 days and of course I always have a test from less than 30 days, I am fine doing non-condom. I would prefer it of course, because it makes the scene more intimate and passionate. There you go.

I support the rule because even tough you get a test 30 days, you still can get infected, that's what happened with the latest porn scare, man tested negative 2 weeks before got infected within two weeks, had a threesome with two girls they spread it, etc... No sex is passionate unless you actually now the person that's my belief... You rather not use a condom because in reality it feels better...

It is preference at the end of the day, but porn does affect people who do watch it and sometimes encourages unsafe sex...

[TSLexiWade]

I support the rule because even tough you get a test 30 days, you still can get infected, that's what happened with the latest porn scare, man tested negative 2 weeks before got infected within two weeks, had a threesome with two girls they spread it, etc... No sex is passionate unless you actually now the person that's my belief... You rather not use a condom because in reality it feels better...

It is preference at the end of the day, but porn does affect people who do watch it and sometimes encourages unsafe sex...

:iagree: VERY WELL SAID... Thank you for clarifying that!

[AmyDaly]

Personally, I think that if they are going to make porn actors do it, they should start making everyone doing it at home. That's where this is leading to anyways. If you don't believe me, then take a look at the anti sodomy laws in some states. Next think you know the government is going to be in your own house telling us all that its illegal to go bare back at home. Because in reality, we are much safer on our porn sets working with professionals, people who know how to spot STD's, testing, and working with people we know than any of you guys are at home. Unlike some people who are willing to fuck a random stranger they just met on a date or at a bar.

[EvonRose]

Personally, I think that if they are going to make porn actors do it, they should start making everyone doing it at home. That's where this is leading to anyways. If you don't believe me, then take a look at the anti sodomy laws in some states. Next think you know the government is going to be in your own house telling us all that its illegal to go bare back at home. Because in reality, we are much safer on our porn sets working with professionals, people who know how to spot STD's, testing, and working with people we know than any of you guys are at home. Unlike some people who are willing to fuck a random stranger they just met on a date or at a bar.

I agree, safe sex should be enforced at all cost, but you can't compare porn shoots to relationships....

[AmyDaly]

I agree, safe sex should be enforced at all cost, but you can't compare porn shoots to relationships....
Yea you can. I would even say that porn shoots are safer. A lot of people fuck on the third date and shit like that before you even really get a chance to know the person. A lot of relationships, one of the partner is cheating on the other or fucking escorts on the side, or just not being completely honest. At least in porn, we have a test to look at and reputations to go on.

If the government was allowed to be in the bedroom making laws on what kind of sex you can have, you wouldn't be having sex with men, I guarantee it. We had sodomy laws in the united states all the way up to 2003.

[EvonRose]

Yea you can. I would even say that porn shoots are safer. A lot of people fuck on the third date and shit like that before you even really get a chance to know the person. A lot of relationships, one of the partner is cheating on the other or fucking escorts on the side, or just not being completely honest. At least in porn, we have a test to look at and reputations to go on.

If the government was allowed to be in the bedroom making laws on what kind of sex you can have, you wouldn't be having sex with men, I guarantee it. We had sodomy laws in the united states all the way up to 2003.

Having sex on the 3rd date isn't a relationship, being with a relationship that has no trust or understanding isn't either... We can't tell people how to fuck in their personal lives its not gonna happen nor is it right, porn is a bit different, people are influenced by the industry in the public eyes including porn... There is little we can do to stop it but precautions have to be taken in consideration to the impact it does in the public, and as a public figure someone has to stand by it if that's what it really means to them personally, having unprotected sex on camera is viewed as the person condoning unsafe sex, and people may look up to you therefore influencing them... as oppose to two private people doing their own thing without anyone knowing....

There is a difference between personal relationships and performing... the laws you state are laws not acted on kinda like how some states have weird laws like you can't sneeze and burp at the same time, true story... same states have laws of unmarried couples having sex or oral sex as illegal or unnatural sexual act based on the laws of christianity.

[AmyDaly]

Having sex on the 3rd date isn't a relationship, being with a relationship that has no trust or understanding isn't either... We can't tell people how to fuck in their personal lives its not gonna happen nor is it right, porn is a bit different, people are influenced by the industry in the public eyes including porn... There is little we can do to stop it but precautions have to be taken in consideration to the impact it does in the public, and as a public figure someone has to stand by it if that's what it really means to them personally, having unprotected sex on camera is viewed as the person condoning unsafe sex, and people may look up to you therefore influencing them... as oppose to two private people doing their own thing without anyone knowing....

There is a difference between personal relationships and performing... the laws you state are laws not acted on kinda like how some states have weird laws like you can't sneeze and burp at the same time, true story... same states have laws of unmarried couples having sex or oral sex as illegal or unnatural sexual act based on the laws of christianity.

I am not saying I disagree with what you said. I am saying that the government shouldn't be interfering in our lives. I am perfectly able to make a decision if I want to use a condom or not. I don't need the government forcing me to put something on my body in order to perform a perfectly normal human action on film. The government does tell us how we can fuck in our personal lives and even if they do not enforce those laws, they still could of they chose to. People have been arrested for having gay sex in their own homes in this country in the past. Look up bowers v hardwick if you don't believe me. We are going back on that road currently with all this nanny state crap.

I don't get how all these people who aren't involved in the porn industry and have no experience with what goes on feel that they have the knowledge to dictate how the industry is regulated.

[EvonRose]

I am not saying I disagree with what you said. I am saying that the government shouldn't be interfering in our lives. I am perfectly able to make a decision if I want to use a condom or not. I don't need the government forcing me to put something on my body in order to perform a perfectly normal human action on film. The government does tell us how we can fuck in our personal lives and even if they do not enforce those laws, they still could of they chose to. People have been arrested for having gay sex in their own homes in this country in the past. Look up bowers v hardwick if you don't believe me. We are going back on that road currently with all this nanny state crap.

I don't get how all these people who aren't involved in the porn industry and have no experience with what goes on feel that they have the knowledge to dictate how the industry is regulated.

Just because your not part of the porn industry don't mean your ignorant about it i know enough people to tell me and educate me on things, and enough for me to not involve myself on it, It is still the sex industry there are safe actors and unsafe ones just like in the fetish world or escorting world... I am not dictating nor do i believe the government should either but it it unsafe public practice in my opinion to do it as a public figure... i have been offers to do many porn before and i ask questions, i don't do things without proper knowledge... that's all...

[NatashaLover]

LOL good, it was about time!

[BluegrassCat]

I am not saying I disagree with what you said. I am saying that the government shouldn't be interfering in our lives. I am perfectly able to make a decision if I want to use a condom or not. I don't need the government forcing me to put something on my body in order to perform a perfectly normal human action on film. The government does tell us how we can fuck in our personal lives and even if they do not enforce those laws, they still could of they chose to. People have been arrested for having gay sex in their own homes in this country in the past. Look up bowers v hardwick if you don't believe me. We are going back on that road currently with all this nanny state crap.

I don't get how all these people who aren't involved in the porn industry and have no experience with what goes on feel that they have the knowledge to dictate how the industry is regulated.

I gotta say I don't think non-pros will have to worry about government overreach from this. The Supreme Court has already ruled a right to privacy exists that allows private citizens to choose whether to use condoms. I'm not saying I agree with regulating the biz but regulating the porn industry is different in important ways from regulating the behavior of private adults. If you're against this attempt to control industry behavior, argue it on its merits rather on slippery slope possibilities which seem pretty unlikely.

But, no matter what, keep posting pics.

[LibertyHarkness]

Just glad I dont live in the USA so i get to choose what i want to do ..

We used to have a similar law amy about buggery in the UK that it was illegal to bugger your wife, and gay sex was illegal ..

[SammiValentine]

Just glad I dont live in the USA so i get to choose what i want to do ..

We used to have a similar law amy about buggery in the UK that it was illegal to bugger your wife, and gay sex was illegal ..

Not all that long ago indeed Libs ;-). And even more recently legal age for consentual "homosexual" sex was made the same as hetro. Bugger me!

[Iainlondon]

Not all that long ago indeed Libs ;-). And even more recently legal age for consentual "homosexual" sex was made the same as hetro. Bugger me!

When Sammi and how many times ?

[SammiValentine]

When Sammi and how many times ?
hahahaha xx :salad:jerkoff

[LibertyHarkness]

i have bummed sammi many many times :)

[Iainlondon]

i have bummed sammi many many times :)

I like to bugger you both !

[Los Angeles resident]

Los Angeles Times, Tuesday, February 21, 2012

PORN INDUSTRY MAY BOOGIE OUT OF L.A. OVER CONDOM LAW
Producers weigh taking legal action or moving out of town when a Los Angeles measure requiring performers to wear condoms takes effect March 5.

By RONG-GONG LIN II, Los Angeles Times

For decades, the nation's pornographic film industry found a happy, largely accepting home in Los Angeles.

Producers operated lucrative businesses in anonymous office parks in the San Fernando Valley. Available in the city were a steady supply of actors and film production talent as well as opulent mansions that often served as theatrical backdrops. By one estimate, at least 5% of on-location shoots were for adult films.

But this coexistence has been suddenly shaken by sweeping health regulations that, starting March 5, will require porn performers to wear condoms while on location.

The landmark law marks a rare attempt to regulate how films are made, threatening an industry that has been a source of millions of dollars in revenue. AIDS activists are gathering signatures for a countywide ballot measure that would extend the ban to dozens of additional communities.

The industry, however, is fighting back. Leaders say they are considering plans to fight back either in court or by moving filming out of town.

It's a debate that pits the desire to protect the health of porn actors against the freedom to make films that audiences want to see.

The Los Angeles City Council acted earlier this year after a series of incidents in which adult film productions were suspended amid concerns that HIV had been transmitted among performers. Despite the health risks of having unprotected sex on movie sets, the industry has strongly opposed a condom requirement, saying that monthly testing already safeguards performers and that customers won't pay to see such films.

"It's certainly a fascinating conundrum," said Jason E. Squire, a USC professor of cinematic arts. "You want all performers, whatever they do, to be safe. That transcends content. I don't know what the proper solution is."

AIDS activists say that the fight over condoms is about protecting performers' health and opposing the promotion of unsafe sex.

"The fact that porn sends out a message that the only type of sex that's hot is unsafe ... we think that's detrimental," said Michael Weinstein, president of the Los Angeles-based AIDS Healthcare Foundation.

The Los Angeles law was the result of months of aggressive lobbying by Weinstein and other AIDS activists, who have long called on the government to step in and make the porn workplace safer. The council approved the law only after activists pressured it by gathering enough signatures to ask voters to decide the issue at the ballot box. The industry has been forced to suspend production several times amid reports that adult performers contracted HIV. One was Derrick Burts, who tested HIV-positive in 2010 and said clinic staff told him he was infected by a fellow performer.

"It's a broken system that they have in place," said Burts, who backs mandatory condoms. "What performer wouldn't want to feel more safe on a work set?"

Porn industry representatives say the law is unnecessary because they regularly test actors for HIV. They maintain that Burts was not infected on the job, and that they haven't had a confirmed work-related HIV case since 2004. When a performer turned up HIV-positive in another state in 2011, companies here voluntarily halted production until others could get tested.

Steven A. Hirsch of Vivid Entertainment said his company's performers are allowed to use condoms if they want — but most don't.

Filmmakers tried requiring condoms on their own in the late 1990s after an HIV scare, but sales began suffering.

"The viewers out there don't want to see movies with condoms," Hirsch said.

Diane Duke of the adult film lobby group Free Speech Coalition said performers should have the right to have sex as they wish. She compared the issue to boxers who fight for entertainment, even though they risk injury.

"The goal of that is to knock someone out — pound them in the head until you knock someone out," Duke said.

"This is the first step of government overreach into the way we make movies," Duke said. "It's clearly the government interfering where it really doesn't belong.… Because our industry deals with sex … we're vulnerable and easy to attack."

It's unclear how much money the city would give up if porn producers began leaving. Film L.A., the nonprofit that manages permits, estimates that it issues under 500 a year to adult film companies wanting to shoot on location. Some filmmakers, however, may not bother asking for permits. A survey found that one of the top 10 sites for on-location filming in Los Angeles in 2010 was a Chatsworth porn studio.

In the most recent study, local economists estimated a decade ago — before the recession — that the industry generated $4 billion in sales and provided 10,000 to 20,000 jobs annually to actors, makeup artists, camera crews, caterers and the like.

Even with the condom law, there are still options available to the porn industry. A loophole allows filming without condoms in certified sound stages like ones found at major movie studios.

They could also do filming outside the city limits, though it is unclear what kind of welcome they would receive.

The mayor of the Ventura County suburb of Simi Valley has already called on his city to draft a mandatory condom policy similar to that of Los Angeles.

"The people of our town do not want to be noted for being porn purveyors," Mayor Bob Huber said.

Porn producer Hirsch considers the condom requirement "a nuisance more than anything else. We will continue shooting the movies, and if that means outside of the city of Los Angeles, so be it."

Duke says she thinks that other states would welcome the industry. Some have suggested Nevada, which hosts an annual adult film trade show and even has legal brothels in rural areas — although they are regulated and require condoms.

But there may be a legal obstacle to pulling up stakes entirely: Porn generally became legal in California after a 1988 state Supreme Court decision ruling that adult film producers shouldn't be prosecuted under anti-prostitution laws. Only one other state, New Hampshire, has had a similar court ruling, issued in 2008.

There could also be political resistance in Nevada. As its population has grown and gambling casinos have become parts of major Wall Street-traded entertainment and resort companies, the state has become more economically and socially conservative, said Michael Green, professor of history at the College of Southern Nevada. For instance, he said, Nevada has voted to ban gay marriage and rejected the legalization of marijuana.

"Those are not necessarily the hallmarks of the old libertarian Nevada," Green said. And noting that government has tried to attract new industries to the state, "diversifying Nevada's economy by becoming the next Hollywood for porn strikes me as contradictory," Green said.

Additionally, there is plenty of talent in Los Angeles for the adult industry. Some aspiring actors, videographers and sound engineers who arrive here hoping to break into mainstream movies find their way working in adult films.

Weinstein's political march, meanwhile, isn't stopping at City Hall.

The AIDS group is gathering signatures for a November ballot measure that would ask Los Angeles County voters to require condoms when porn companies film in areas regulated by the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health, which has authority over all 88 cities in the county except Pasadena, Long Beach and Vernon.

But at this point, city officials have not determined how they will enforce the new law. They are forming a committee of advisors from the Los Angeles Police Department, the city attorney's office, the California Division of Occupational Safety and Health, and others.

"Frankly, it's hard to tell" what the adult film industry will do, said Mark Kernes, senior editor at AVN Media Network, an adult film industry trade publication.

Los Angeles Times staff writers Ben Fritz and Richard Verrier in Los Angeles and Ashley Powers in Las Vegas contributed to this report.

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[jaxqt28]

That's pretty retarded. It should be up to the models on whether to use condoms or not. Personally I hate watching straight porn with condoms. I just click *next* lol. TS porn mostly involves condoms, but it's hot to see some raw doggin action :banana: I'm sure companies will just relocate or open another location to do shoots.