why don't more escorts do porn?

[RallyCola]

So....

There are so many very beautiful and sexy girls that escort but don't pose nude, let alone do a hardcore scene in front of a camera.

If you have clients...you can't be bashful...so why not do it in front of a camera? I know alot of people say that girls make more escorting than in shooting for websites, but is that the reason why many escorts don't do porn.

Is it a privacy thing...meaning escorting is just a means to an end and porn is too much of a public record?

[scroller]

^ Pretty much that latter, I think. I have one friend who used to escort; she did it for a while and knew she'd do something else later and wouldn't want stuff like that following her afterward. Now she has a PhD and is fielding several job offers in industry and academia. That attitude's probably more common than not.

[LibertyHarkness]

money
privacy

[TsJizelle]

from what I've heard it's the pay mostly.
and as libby said, for some it's a privacy thing of not wanting naked images of themselves on the net. which I can totally respect.

[Kevin Dong]

from what I've heard it's the pay mostly.
and as libby said, for some it's a privacy thing of not wanting naked images of themselves on the net. which I can totally respect.

I don't respect that at all. I think everyone should have mandatory naked images on the net. :fuckin:

[Dino Velvet]

My first T-Girl I was with I asked that. I was curious since she was good looking and I am ignorant of the adult industry. For some reason she didn't seem to have an interest. She seems to make consistent money as an escort and has a great place in Sherman Oaks. Candy boxes stacked to the ceiling falling on floor and left there. I see.

This is her. So popular she's almost notorious. Fancy way of saying she's handled a lotta wieners. Nice lady.

http://www.eros-la.com/files/1798.htm

[FreddieGomez]

it seems the hotter girls would rather escort than do porn.

[fxtech]

Dino... did she give you the "Dino Special"... $100

I live in Redondo Beach. I think I'm going to give her a call. Even if I don't get the "Dino Special", $200 seems like a deal!

[mrtrebus]

They make more cash, & they get better quality men as well! :grin:

[TSMichelleAustin]

I don't respect that at all. I think everyone should have mandatory naked images on the net. :fuckin:

So where are urs??? LOL :dancing:

[LibertyHarkness]

well its also alot of escorts especially having massive drug addictions, are greed based .. for all the money they earn its sad the majority will end up broken and poor/destitute .. very very few TS in the sex industry actually have an endgame plan/exit strategy they just live in the now ..

As to hotter well freddie thats subjective on what you define hot, to what the masses find hot etc .. bear in mind alot of escorts will do 1porn shoot or 2 so they can call themselves pornstars and charge more money ..

but pretty much its just simply escorting or webcamming consistantly is way more profitble than doing porn shoots .

[Dino Velvet]

Dino... did she give you the "Dino Special"... $100

I live in Redondo Beach. I think I'm going to give her a call. Even if I don't get the "Dino Special", $200 seems like a deal!

She was my first TS and I wasn't sure how to bargain with limited/expanded menu. No problem these days. I learn. I learn. I learn.

At $200 I wasn't complaining. I almost got hit by a car crossing the street afterward as I was so out of it. Fuckin' Sepulveda too.

The $100 thing is principle.

[robertlouis]

well its also alot of escorts especially having massive drug addictions, are greed based .. for all the money they earn its sad the majority will end up broken and poor/destitute .. very very few TS in the sex industry actually have an endgame plan/exit strategy they just live in the now ..

As to hotter well freddie thats subjective on what you define hot, to what the masses find hot etc .. bear in mind alot of escorts will do 1porn shoot or 2 so they can call themselves pornstars and charge more money ..

but pretty much its just simply escorting or webcamming consistantly is way more profitble than doing porn shoots .

:iagree::iagree::iagree: Couldn't agree more Libby. It's really distressing to meet girls who are in the game without a clear exit strategy and a plan, because in the end it's more than likely that that same game will spit them out and destroy them.

The upside is staying in touch with girls who get out, find a partner and settle into a long-term happy and stable relationship. I'm sure that's where you're heading and I sincerely hope you find it.

[Merkurie]

The cream of the crop Eros type girls could model etc. But the majority of working girls could play for the Cleveland Browns. HA girls, what ever the type you personally go for are very attractive, that is not the rule.

[EvonRose]

1- I do not like the exposure of porn, what I do is more reasonably private.

2- Id rather be the boss who run my own business, pornstars work for the directors and producers

3- I make more than all my friends who do porn.

4. I am extremely hard to work with because I set my mind to something and want things to go my way, I can't work around other pornstars or directors.

5. I am more reserved meaning more demand for people to want to see me, and the quality of men because of my rates are 10 times better and honestly love all my clients...

6. I am good at what I do... period.

[amberskyi]

well its also alot of escorts especially having massive drug addictions, are greed based .. for all the money they earn its sad the majority will end up broken and poor/destitute .. very very few TS in the sex industry actually have an endgame plan/exit strategy they just live in the now ..

As to hotter well freddie thats subjective on what you define hot, to what the masses find hot etc .. bear in mind alot of escorts will do 1porn shoot or 2 so they can call themselves pornstars and charge more money ..

but pretty much its just simply escorting or webcamming consistantly is way more profitble than doing porn shoots .

um really??? i know just as many "porn stars" who love to shove crap up their nose just as well...and how many broke porn stars do we know? answer, look at how many sites no longer get updated...

[LibertyHarkness]

out of all the escorts i know i would say 90% all take drugs/do some narcotic ... out of the porn people i know that dont escort but just model/cam probably about half of them do drugs ...

but being as most TS porn models all escort as well the number is high.. :)

MYself i am probbly one of the very few TS i personally know that dont take drugs. but then i am a nerd and waste my money on warhammer 40k instead :) or chasing gg girls to fuck .

But also amber dont forget thte reason most TS do porn is simply to boost escorting income nothing more .. the actual hardline porn people init for the longrun is minimal i can probably count on 2hands the actual girls that are in this bracket .

[EvonRose]

out of all the escorts i know i would say 90% all take drugs/do some narcotic ... out of the porn people i know that dont escort but just model/cam probably about half of them do drugs ...

but being as most TS porn models all escort as well the number is high.. :)

MYself i am probbly one of the very few TS i personally know that dont take drugs. but then i am a nerd and waste my money on warhammer 40k instead :) or chasing gg girls to fuck .

But also amber dont forget thte reason most TS do porn is simply to boost escorting income nothing more .. the actual hardline porn people init for the longrun is minimal i can probably count on 2hands the actual girls that are in this bracket .

I wouldn't say 90, 40 is more accurate... However there is a difference with being a regular user as oppose to doing it to party... Meth, heroine, and other lab drugs is a no no to me, however pot and coke responsibly is okay for me just not habitual. Escorts in the high end of things are probably not going to be one of those you speak, because with the prices charged there is reputation involved so we like pornstars take health seriously, however the lower priced end of escorting 40 percent being drug addicts could be true, but only alight few on my end.

[Yvonne183]

I would say that 90% of the 40% of escorts that do 19% of porn probably do 22% of drug use.

I only have sex for the drugs.

[AmyDaly]

I would say that 90% of the 40% of escorts that do 19% of porn probably do 22% of drug use.



lol i was thinking the same thing...always with the made up stats

[Yvonne183]

lol i was thinking the same thing...always with the made up stats

My stats are true, I read it on the internet.



lol

[amberskyi]

I would say that 90% of the 40% of escorts that do 19% of porn probably do 22% of drug use.

I only have sex for the drugs.

lmaaoooo...your freaking awsome, girl crush

[Dino Velvet]

I only have sex for the drugs.

I only have sex while on drugs and I do have extra. Let's switch pill bottles tonight and see what happens. I'm still on top.:fuckin:

Ted Nugent-My Baby Likes My Butter On Her Gritz - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ4SgGMo8Gg&feature=related)

[LibertyHarkness]

hey i am only basing it on my dealings :) with other trannys and remember your all yanks and i am british :) hence my opionons on my physical dealings .

[RallyCola]

so the brit tgirls are all meth heads then libby? just kidding.

[LibertyHarkness]

lol rally :)

interesting meth is very popular in the gay sex scene in london ..drug usage in TS scene that i am aware of, dealings of is mostly just girls on the mighty nip or getting stoned ..

[buckjohnson]

I fail to see the difference between porn and escort. Both are play to pay and both seems to attract people who are damaged good and are emotionally crippled.

I feel any man who pays for sex has limited options and limited game. I like ass just like the next man, but paying for it seems cheap and unneccsary. I pay for essential goods and need i.e housing, food, transportation. Getting ass is not essential or critical, plus it comes to me free and eager, not negotiated and paid for.

[trish]

I pay for essential goods and need...Real men don't buy food, they buy hookers and booze.

[mrtrebus]

I fail to see the difference between porn and escort. Both are play to pay and both seems to attract people who are damaged good and are emotionally crippled.

I feel any man who pays for sex has limited options and limited game. I like ass just like the next man, but paying for it seems cheap and unneccsary. I pay for essential goods and need i.e housing, food, transportation. Getting ass is not essential or critical, plus it comes to me free and eager, not negotiated and paid for.

Wow! You're amazing! Love the condescending broad generalization to. No wonder you're such a hit with the ladies!

[buckjohnson]

Wow! You're amazing! Love the condescending broad generalization to. No wonder you're such a hit with the ladies!


No wonder I spend so many nights alone with my 151 rum.

[LibertyHarkness]

you know i quite like the taste of rum ..old navy rum is quite nice indeed

[buckjohnson]

you know i quite like the taste of rum ..old navy rum is quite nice indeed


Rum is underraated. glad we can find something in common.

[LibertyHarkness]

whats the rum called where they pour it in a little shot glass type thing and set fire to it before downing it?

[NRT]

does anyone know where in london you can get alcohol free rum, whiskey brandy vodka etc? I like drinking bavarian and kaliber alcohol free lager. When i offer it to my mates without warning they say, its a bit weak or there is no taste etc! they dont like it but i do

[Prospero]

what is the point of alcohol free Rum or Whisky or the like? Duhhhhhhhh

[NRT]

you can drink it and drive, dont get drunk/disorderly etc. simple really

[dante]

myself i am probbly one of the very few ts i personally know that dont take drugs..

l o l ?

[amberskyi]

l o l ?

i would like to say for the record that i dont do drugs..but i do drink like a fish and am pumped up to my eyeballs in estrogen and vitamins lol

[EvonRose]

Whatever to the girls below, obviously your condescending mock shows ur immaturity... Im not dumb and for a fact yvonn that was targeted towards me. But what can you expect from a wanna be suicidal emo?

[Ineeda SM]

So....

There are so many very beautiful and sexy girls that escort but don't pose nude, let alone do a hardcore scene in front of a camera.

If you have clients...you can't be bashful...so why not do it in front of a camera? I know alot of people say that girls make more escorting than in shooting for websites, but is that the reason why many escorts don't do porn.

Is it a privacy thing...meaning escorting is just a means to an end and porn is too much of a public record?

Have you ever considered that they only escort because that is their choice, and do not wish to do porn? There are porn stars that could escort and do very well at it, but they chose not to. I mean there is no rule or standard that says both must go hand in hand. Any part of the adult industry is done by choice because they want to. Maybe they just don't want to.

[Ineeda SM]

Whatever to the girls below, obviously your condescending mock shows ur immaturity... Im not dumb and for a fact yvonn that was targeted towards me. But what can you expect from a wanna be suicidal emo?

That wasn't very nice. Yvonne was just being her usual lighthearted funny self. It wasn't a dig at you. She is famous for adding a little light humor to threads. Maybe that coke you say is not a lab drug and okay to use, is more of a problem than you think. Paranoia is a major symptom of using too much coke.

[EvonRose]

That wasn't very nice. Yvonne was just being her usual lighthearted funny self. It wasn't a dig at you. She is famous for adding a little light humor to threads. Maybe that coke you say is not a lab drug and okay to use, is more of a problem than you think. Paranoia is a major symptom of using too much coke.

Uh no shes chiming it to mock me with the same women who have gathered to call me a bitch, mean spirited, homophobic person. So when she makes a joke about it shes bringing things up to me its just catty... These women dont even know me! Whatev.

[Ineeda SM]

Uh no shes chiming it to mock me with the same women who have gathered to call me a bitch, mean spirited, homophobic person. So when she makes a joke about it shes bringing things up to me its just catty... These women dont even know me! Whatev.

Evon I like you. I usually agree with a lot of your points, and I think you are one of the sexiest girls here.

But after reading every post in this thread, I have not seen one post that calls you, or refers to you as a bitch, mean spirited, or a homophobic person. In fact, not one post in this thread argues with you at all. And Yvonne always takes someones words and twist them for a joke to lighten things up a little. It's one of her famous traits that everyone here loves about her. Yvonne doesn't make enemies here. It was not a jab at you. I laughed my ass of at it. It was funny. And that is all it was meant to be.

You might want to think about cutting back on the coke useage sweetie. Seriously!

[loveboof]

That wasn't very nice. Yvonne was just being her usual lighthearted funny self. It wasn't a dig at you. She is famous for adding a little light humor to threads. Maybe that coke you say is not a lab drug and okay to use, is more of a problem than you think. Paranoia is a major symptom of using too much coke.

No Yvonne was clearly taking the piss a bit - but I agree she was just kidding!

@ Evon, although a little social coke or weed isn't a particularly big deal, the fact you do some mean you'd still fall into that 90% Liberty was referring to...

[buckjohnson]

Whatever to the girls below, obviously your condescending mock shows ur immaturity... Im not dumb and for a fact yvonn that was targeted towards me. But what can you expect from a wanna be suicidal emo?


This has substained my point.

[EvonRose]

No Yvonne was clearly taking the piss a bit - but I agree she was just kidding!

@ Evon, although a little social coke or weed isn't a particularly big deal, the fact you do some mean you'd still fall into that 90% Liberty was referring to...


Its amazing how many of you guys cant read, i said it was okay for me personally just like alchohol is for many people but using responsibly!!!! i didnt say i did coke.

[loveboof]

I fail to see the difference between porn and escort. Both are play to pay and both seems to attract people who are damaged good and are emotionally crippled.

I feel any man who pays for sex has limited options and limited game. I like ass just like the next man, but paying for it seems cheap and unneccsary. I pay for essential goods and need i.e housing, food, transportation. Getting ass is not essential or critical, plus it comes to me free and eager, not negotiated and paid for.

Are you saying that all porn stars and escorts are 'damaged goods and emotionally crippled'? - cos that could prove controversial on this site buck. lol

Also your list of expenditures did not include any form of entertainment. That sounds kinda boring to me; can you simply not afford it?

[loveboof]

Its amazing how many of you guys cant read, i said it was okay for me personally just like alchohol is for many people but using responsibly!!!! i didnt say i did coke.

Well your wording suggested that you did a little coke and weed but were responsible with it.

But even if you only smoke some weed, you'd still fall into that 90% which Liberty was talking about.

[EvonRose]

Evon I like you. I usually agree with a lot of your points, and I think you are one of the sexiest girls here.

But after reading every post in this thread, I have not seen one post that calls you, or refers to you as a bitch, mean spirited, or a homophobic person. In fact, not one post in this thread argues with you at all. And Yvonne always takes someones words and twist them for a joke to lighten things up a little. It's one of her famous traits that everyone here loves about her. Yvonne doesn't make enemies here. It was not a jab at you. I laughed my ass of at it. It was funny. And that is all it was meant to be.

You might want to think about cutting back on the coke useage sweetie. Seriously!



No there was another thread where me using statistics resulted to a few women to call me names such as whore, bitch etc. Yvonn is friends with them and shes bringing up something so catty now on a diffrent thread. Diffrent thread but its the same subject. Shes associating herself by bringing it up again condescendingly as a joke, but it's really catty, your not on the receiving end of things so obviously you don't care and to you it's just funny but the names I was called was not exactly light hearted or to make fun of now...

And lovboof I don't smoke weed either.... All I am saying is if alcohol is okay (which has more fatality and problems than weed or coke has had impacted on our society) then I don't see what's wrong with taking them responsibly. Libby stated 90 percent as having drug problems or issues it's not a problem if your responsible you don't need to be an escort to have an addiction...

God i hope you folks get me now, I'm tired of always being misunderstood on this forum...

[maxpower]

whats the rum called where they pour it in a little shot glass type thing and set fire to it before downing it?


Bacardi 151?

[loveboof]

And lovboof I don't smoke weed either.... All I am saying is if alcohol is okay (which has more fatality and problems than weed or coke has had impacted on our society) then I don't see what's wrong with taking them responsibly. Libby stated 90 percent as having drug problems or issues it's not a problem if your responsible you don't need to be an escort to have an addiction...

God i hope you folks get me now, I'm tired of always being misunderstood on this forum...

Yeah, certainly a lot of the issues with those drugs arise out of their criminality. And I understand your point about 'responsible' use not necessarily leading to lifestyle problems.

If you do no illegal drugs at all then you fall outside of the majority Liberty was talking about. But as she said, that was just from her experience - and as a whole I trust her judgement because she knows that world and always seems smart and down to earth.

Do you think less than half of all escorts do drugs, or do you think most escorts do drugs but the majority simply don't have a drug problem?

[EvonRose]

Yeah, certainly a lot of the issues with those drugs arise out of their criminality. And I understand your point about 'responsible' use not necessarily leading to lifestyle problems.

If you do no illegal drugs at all then you fall outside of the majority Liberty was talking about. But as she said, that was just from her experience - and as a whole I trust her judgement because she knows that world and always seems smart and down to earth.

Do you think less than half of all escorts do drugs, or do you think most escorts do drugs but the majority simply don't have a drug problem?

weed is legal in some states with medical approval, in San Francisco its very easy to get one... Legality of things has nothing to do with anything because being an escort is bordering what legal is in some countries... In my experience the women I know are very clean and responsible... The women I know both gg and ts are quality high end escorts and it's a small circle so we do not play with fire...

[loveboof]

weed is legal in some states with medical approval, in San Francisco its very easy to get one... Legality of things has nothing to do with anything because being an escort is bordering what legal is in some countries... In my experience the women I know are very clean and responsible... The women I know both gg and ts are quality high end escorts and it's a small circle so we do not play with fire...

Yeah I've been to San Francisco, and I have no idea how people get anything done there lol.

The criminality around drugs like cocaine is directly responsible for a lot of the problems related to it. That doesnt mean it should be legal, but it is just an inevitable consequence.

My question was more to understand your view. You corrected Liberty's 90% to 40%, which suggests you believe the majority of escorts do not do drugs. Did you mean the escorts you know, or were you clarifying 'drug use' with drug problem? Because there is a distinction there - I just don't think that is what Libby meant...

[EvonRose]

Yeah I've been to San Francisco, and I have no idea how people get anything done there lol.

The criminality around drugs like cocaine is directly responsible for a lot of the problems related to it. That doesnt mean it should be legal, but it is just an inevitable consequence.

My question was more to understand your view. You corrected Liberty's 90% to 40%, which suggests you believe the majority of escorts do not do drugs. Did you mean the escorts you know, or were you clarifying 'drug use' with drug problem? Because there is a distinction there - I just don't think that is what Libby meant...

No the reason why some drugs are illegal is because there is no financial control, the government wants money... I agree any drug has its issues that's why in my opinion if you ban one, ban everything else! like alcohol... Alcohol addiction is not uncommon, and alcohol has cause way more death than weed and coke... But it's still legal just because something is legal does not mean it's right or even safe for everyone... Just like coke, some get a habit and some people i know hate taking it or have no physical reaction to it. Same goes for weed and ex, and g... ect. Look back in history during the prohibition, alcohol was illegal because they had no means of controlling it financially so people bootlegged or drank it illegally... Weed is just the modern day alcohol.

I'm pretty sure libby said drug addiction, which I disagree with... that 90 percent have, I would guess more 40 percent would have addiction... Maybe even less, I'm not saying I'm right... Why are we talking about just escorts doing drugs tough? Celebrities? Models? Rock stars? Even regular people on everyday norm I hear my pastor go to rehab for pill addiction... Lets not generalize drugs with escorting it's a bad stereotype. I'm sure pornstars would disagree to be stereotyped as molested, physically abused people that were forced into porn because of daddy issues and now morally bankrupt to expose their body in front of millions of people. We simply choose what we are good at not because of drugs or daddy issues...

[LibertyHarkness]

As I sad I based my figures on my own ACTUAL real life dealings with TS i have met in USA/UK ... out of all of my friends in the UK i am one of like 3 that doesnt take drugs be it socially or with clients ..

I think people are getting abit to excited with this thread and are missing the point now ...


So again back to OP topic .. Money and Privacy will be the main reasons ...

[robertlouis]

No the reason why some drugs are illegal is because there is no financial control, the government wants money... I agree any drug has its issues that's why in my opinion if you ban one, ban everything else! like alcohol... Alcohol addiction is not uncommon, and alcohol has cause way more death than weed and coke... But it's still legal just because something is legal does not mean it's right or even safe for everyone... Just like coke, some get a habit and some people i know hate taking it or have no physical reaction to it. Same goes for weed and ex, and g... ect. Look back in history during the prohibition, alcohol was illegal because they had no means of controlling it financially so people bootlegged or drank it illegally... Weed is just the modern day alcohol.

I'm pretty sure libby said drug addiction, which I disagree with... that 90 percent have, I would guess more 40 percent would have addiction... Maybe even less, I'm not saying I'm right... Why are we talking about just escorts doing drugs tough? Celebrities? Models? Rock stars? Even regular people on everyday norm I hear my pastor go to rehab for pill addiction... Lets not generalize drugs with escorting it's a bad stereotype. I'm sure pornstars would disagree to be stereotyped as molested, physically abused people that were forced into porn because of daddy issues and now morally bankrupt to expose their body in front of millions of people. We simply choose what we are good at not because of drugs or daddy issues...

Evon, you're also in the music biz. How does drug use in the music industry, as far as you're aware of it, compare to what you see in escorting etc?

In my niche - acoustic singer-songwriter - there's always plenty of pot, just a little coke, and not much else, unless you count alcohol lol. For the record, I'll have a joint from time to time - I'm a "social toker", but that's as far as it goes, and I certainly never have anything, including alcohol, before I go on stage. I'm aware that in the mainstream biz in the UK there's a lot more hard and heavy drug use.

[EvonRose]

Evon, you're also in the music biz. How does drug use in the music industry, as far as you're aware of it, compare to what you see in escorting etc?

In my niche - acoustic singer-songwriter - there's always plenty of pot, just a little coke, and not much else, unless you count alcohol lol. For the record, I'll have a joint from time to time - I'm a "social toker", but that's as far as it goes, and I certainly never have anything, including alcohol, before I go on stage. I'm aware that in the mainstream biz in the UK there's a lot more hard and heavy drug use.

I have seen everything from coke, to pot, to heroine, to pills, to lsd... It very big in the music industry, And very big in the porn industry as well, any party scene will probably have it...

[robertlouis]

I have seen everything from coke, to pot, to heroine, to pills, to lsd... It very big in the music industry, And very big in the porn industry as well, any party scene will probably have it...

Maybe I need to do that tour in the US sooner rather than later lol.....

Fancy doing some harmonies?

[irvin66]

I like rum, but I think the Single Malt Scotch Whisky is the best, plus the Norwegian and European beer, particularly type of stout and porter, and don't forget a delicious cold pilsner.:cheers:
I don't like drugs!