Incalls v. Outcalls: Which is safer for the provider/client

[StinkyPete1000]

Just looking to get people's opinions on this. I'm interested in what people think is safer for the client and/or the provider.

[RallyCola]

i'm always felt that escorts perfer incalls because they know the environment and feel more secure.

i'm sure there are guys that prefer outcalls for the safety/comfort reasons and there is always the unknown such as other bookings or roommates at the girl's place which you won't have if the girl shows up at your place

that said, i am sure there are alot of guys that a prefer going to the girl for a couple of reasons...they don't want anyone to see an escort at their place...or they don' want evidence for their WAGs to find...or they don't want a girl to know where they live

personally, i have never had an escort at my house usually because i'm never just sitting at home to call one up. i have had them come to my hotel rooms though when i am out of town.

[StinkyPete1000]

I started off only seeing girls at their place but that brought me to some pretty shady areas so once I got my own place I started to have more girls come to my place. It felt safer but I always had that fear of having girls know where I live in the back of my mind (it doesn't mean I think they were going to do anything but your address is a pretty personal piece of info).

I've actually decided to start going to girls places again the next time. I'll just try to only see girls in nice areas.

What's your take on seeing girls who are staying in hotels (as oppose to having them come to your room)? I always thought it was legit until I heard some people discuss how they are sometimes set ups (as in sting operations). Any thoughts?

[RallyCola]

i've never really heard of a tranny sting operation at a hotel.

i know some places of "ill-repute" have been raided and the clients have been charged but a tranny hotel room sting...that's a new one for me.

if you are afraid to have an escort come to your place for privacy/security issues and you think you don't feel safe if they live in an lower socio-economic area, then simply get a motel room for a few bucks for the hour and enjoy.

[top4bigbutt]

In my opinion it is 50 and 50,you may feel safe at home,but beside the fack they can save your # and adress,there's always the risk some bad apple can steal some shit from you,or boyfriend waiting outside,etc,for the girls there's always the risk they are going to a trap
And when we choose to go to the girl,we are always exposed to police traps,or boyfriends waiting to fuck you up, and then what we supposed to do? call the cops? ha ha....it is not easy,that's why the info we share here is so useful, just don't take all your money when you go to the girl.

[Willie Escalade]

I agree...it's a 50/50 situation. Personally I prefer going to her place...or the Power Exchange.

[RallyCola]

In my opinion it is 50 and 50,you may feel safe at home,but beside the fack they can save your # and adress,there's always the risk some bad apple can steal some shit from you,or boyfriend waiting outside,etc,for the girls there's always the risk they are going to a trap
And when we choose to go to the girl,we are always exposed to police traps,or boyfriends waiting to fuck you up, and then what we supposed to do? call the cops? ha ha....it is not easy,that's why the info we share here is so useful, just don't take all your money when you go to the girl.

absolutley :iagree: . a friend of mine got taken for $700 with an escort in AC because he had her back to his room and he didn't use the safe to put his stuff away.

its a shame girls don't take debit card :dancing:

[Mike11]

I never considered the security aspect really. I got into regular punting when I lived alone for a while and during that period I almost exclusively arrange all meetings as outcall in my place. I had tried incall but did not like them at all. All these appointments however were with Organic Girls and I have never arranged an outcall with a TG. One exception was a girl I booked who turned out to be a post-op TS.

I found the being on my own ground made the punt a lot more enjoyable. Firstly is the quality of the place. Secondly it allowed the girls to see me more as a person by seeing the environment in which I lived. It often meant that you could establish a good connection and it was rare that the ladies only stayed for the booked time. On many many occasions they stayed a lot longer and on few occasions I ended up dating them for a few months.

It is really difficult to say which is safer, incall or outcall. I guess it depends on who you are meeting. Personally I think the Working Girls are very brave indeed to let any guy of the street to visit them or to just turn up at someone's door. That in itself I find quite daring. As a punter you always know something about who you are meeting. The girls have no idea.

[RallyCola]

girls seem less rushed on outcalls because they can't really schedule anything after because of travel time and such.

that said, i'm a hinjew (ya know...the cheapest person ever...a combination of a hindu and a jew) so when i see, usually at least a $100 difference in the price of an incall or outcall, i usually choose incall.

[ed_jaxon]

For a monger incall is safer.

- If someone is in the bathroom it is probably for the girls safety

- If they do come out and rob you then you have lost only the fee as anyone knows you
don't take anything of value in with you

_ If its their place they don't want to fuck up their living situation

- Bringing someone to your crib gives them your identity

- Knowing where you live allows them to see what you have, monitor your movements and
perhaps pass the info to someone else who will come when you are not home.

[flabbybody]

most of the time when I've done out call to my place, the girl's been 2 hours late and it makes me anxious cuz she's got my address at that point so there's no getting out of it. I feel more in control going to the girl's place, especially after she's given me her general location on the first phone call. Then I can decide on the safety and parking situation of the area. I'm at least vaguely familiar with most spots in the boroughs.
When I can't understand them trying to pronounce Moshulu pkwy it's usually a good sign not to go see them.

[Odelay]

Actually, just experienced this in/out dilemma as I overnited in middle Wisconsin and checked out a local strip club. I was surprised when this dark skinned cutie mentioned hooking up after a VIP dance. Then it was... your hotel or mine. We settled on mine, although she sort of won my heart when she ruefully opined that I could have saved on a hotel had I come to the strip club before checking in. I've never had a provider worry about what I was spending until that moment. Not that I got off cheap with a VIP dance and overnite.

[russtafa]

if these girls do out calls they should have a minder/driver for safety

[talldudeil]

I have always done in call - with neighbors know everything that happens here, there is no way to do out-calls, I also try to do daytime so even shady areas are safer as the drug dealers and gang bangers have to sleep some time, say a nice 9:00 am in call and your all good plus your better assured that the gurl will get up and off for you.

[lovesall]

I have always done incalls, I don't need to have people know where I live and maybe come back and rob the place, I like to keep my private life, private. Always on the first call I see where the area she is in and I never go anywhere late light. Finally I go with my gut also if it doesn't sound right I always turn around at any point before hand.

[nonnonnon]

why cant I text is the real question. it's 2012!

[Dino Velvet]

I always go to their place. Too much grey area with kidnapping when I do outcall.

[StinkyPete1000]

I have always done incalls, I don't need to have people know where I live and maybe come back and rob the place, I like to keep my private life, private. Always on the first call I see where the area she is in and I never go anywhere late light. Finally I go with my gut also if it doesn't sound right I always turn around at any point before hand.

Yeah, that's why I stopped doing outcalls. It's certainly more convenient but it's definitely not worth losing peace of mind. Again, that doesn't mean that all tgirls are criminals or anything like that, sometimes it's just knowing that someone knows where you live that can be off-putting.

Of course, I've gone to incalls that were in nice areas but in super shitty apartments...that also sucks.

[StinkyPete1000]

why cant I text is the real question. it's 2012!

Very true! I've often wondered why some girls don't except text messages. Why should I have to call you if all I want are your rates/location? Either way you can see my number.

[Dino Velvet]

Regardless of Incall/Outcall, don't forget to do your homework on these broads before calling. By the time you call all you should need is time and location. Everything that occurs within those four walls is known so there are no unpleasant surprises. Never reward bad behavior with good money.

[Mayrah]

Very true! I've often wondered why some girls don't except text messages. Why should I have to call you if all I want are your rates/location? Either way you can see my number.

Men get off from sexting and there are ALOT of timewasters who else would book sessions and not show up just to mess up your shedules.

[Dino Velvet]

When I was a young kid I would call hookers and get excited knowing the lady on the other end charges for it then hang up. I grew up in a well-off household where money had little value and people had none.

[JenniferParisHusband]

I've had horror stories with both. When I was first getting into this and didn't know any better or have many resources to turn to, I had a horribel incall experience. The room was dimly lit when I got there, could barely see her face. It was a guy in a dress, they had used a picture of Johanna Bardin in their ad. I was let in when I couldn't see her/his face and nervously entered. It really went bad when she didn't put a chain lock across the door. Three of her friends silently snuck in using another key just as I was about to lie down and get comfortable. They pulled a gun on me, got the fee ($350), escorted me to a car where I drove around with a gun to my chest in my underwear and made me empty another $300 from my account, and get a cash advance on two credit cards. All toll, I was out $1450, and couldn't go to the police about it. This ROB crew was fairly well known in LA back in the early 2000's. Most are either dead or in jail, but I never took chances after that. I never brought anything other than a single car key and the money in with me after that.

Outcall was just as bad. I knew better than to have someone I didn't know come to my place, so I got a hotel room in Ktown and met her there. She got my wallet while I was distracted, took my ID and found out where I lived, called her buddy from the bathroom, and while I was distracted, my place in Silverlake was being broken into. A $200 fuck that was lousy actually lost me closer to 8 grand in stuff. Luckily I had insurance to cover most of it.

Since then, I still prefer incall, but I'm really cautious. I put the chain link across if she doesn't. I always check reviews, although they seem to be getting harder and harder to find these days now that shemalereview.net is gone. But I still always check the bathroom, and any other rooms I can, and I never take anything in with me that I can't afford to lose. It's also why I find one lady who is amazing and tend to stick with them as long as possible.

Most of the ladies are great, but every once in a while there's one or two who ruin it for everyone.

[karaalextv]

in calls all the fucking way

[Dino Velvet]

Find the coordinates for Sunset & La Brea and call in an air strike. Most of the bad providers will be extracted from that area. This is the hornet's nest for ROBs today.

[flabbybody]

why cant I text is the real question. it's 2012!
when you call they hear what you sound like. It's a sign you're more likely to show up.
As well as giving the girl a little more reassurance that you're not a wacko.

[Dino Velvet]

when you call they hear what you sound like. It's a sign you're more likely to show up.
As well as giving the girl a little more reassurance that you're not a wacko.

Yeah. Sure. I have a phone too.

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[onmyknees]

in calls all the fucking way


OK baby...I'll call when I get close. :salad

[TsVanessa69]

Very true! I've often wondered why some girls don't except text messages. Why should I have to call you if all I want are your rates/location? Either way you can see my number.entrapment

[Seansxbrand]

Personally, the few times I've done it, as the client & at home, I've usually preferred outcall, & have the lady come to me, BUT when on Vacay, I'll go to her

[StinkyPete1000]

entrapment
You can't be arrested if you allege entrapment (someone correct me if im wrong but i believe entrapment means a law enforcement agent coerced you into committing an illegal act that you had no intention of committing but for the officer's encouragement--so it wouldn't even apply here--which is why officers can pose as johns and the provider can't claim entrapment because he/she intended to do the act with or without encouragement from law enforcement).

I understand girls don't want to be arrested but if it's an officer on the other line it doesn't make a difference if it's a text or a call.

[StinkyPete1000]

when you call they hear what you sound like. It's a sign you're more likely to show up.
As well as giving the girl a little more reassurance that you're not a wacko.
Fair enough

[StinkyPete1000]

Men get off from sexting and there are ALOT of timewasters who else would book sessions and not show up just to mess up your shedules.
Good point

[russtafa]

you tgirls should get a minder or write a will because there are to many freaks in the world

[Dino Velvet]

Personally, the few times I've done it, as the client & at home, I've usually preferred outcall, & have the lady come to me, BUT when on Vacay, I'll go to her

The only time I would ever call for outcall is if I couldn't drive and I'd probably still try to use the Braille Method of Driving bouncing off the curbs all the way to her trick pad. I have a low deductible.

[Dino Velvet]

you tgirls should get a minder or write a will because there are to many freaks in the world

I tell them all to get a gun and train to kill. Too vulnerable inviting strangers through the door. They always brag about being such good judges of character. You know how many times I have heard that? They all can't be right. I love my BDHDHs and never want to see any harm come to them.

[LibertyHarkness]

i think outcalls to reputable hotels ...where the girl can precheck before hand .. or if the girl is touring and staying in a hotel/apartments .. as its not their own home etc .

i would never do an outcall to a clients home ..

[Dino Velvet]

i think outcalls to reputable hotels ...where the girl can precheck before hand .. or if the girl is touring and staying in a hotel/apartments .. as its not their own home etc .

i would never do an outcall to a clients home ..

You always seem like a survivor. You'll outlast roaches and The Taliban. My life will end suicide by cop.:party:

[pantybulge69]

i've never really heard of a tranny sting operation at a hotel.

i know some places of "ill-repute" have been raided and the clients have been charged but a tranny hotel room sting...that's a new one for me.

if you are afraid to have an escort come to your place for privacy/security issues and you think you don't feel safe if they live in an lower socio-economic area, then simply get a motel room for a few bucks for the hour and enjoy.

Sounds like good advise if you can get the escort to buy into agreeing to a cheap motel. (vs a 4-5 star hotel)
i know some of girls just can't afford upscale living envoirment and have
no choice but to live in shady, rough-looking, low economic neighborhoods. And this is usually the toughest decisions whether to
continue the appointment or cancel it based on safety issues.

[Prospero]

Almost invariably outcalls - and I think that most escorts prefer that too. It's their zone. They are largely in control. Occasionally it has felt risky - a dodgy area or people having around the building or the presence of others in the flat/house. Usually its been okay but I did get threatened once and attacked once. I have spoken to virtually NO girls who'll do an outcall to a guy's home. Put's them in peril. I've had a few outcalls to hotels when overseas. But in some places that is very difficult because o hotel security.

[Yvonne183]

you tgirls should get a minder or write a will because there are to many freaks in the world

Quite right,,, it's just as scary for the girls. While I agree it's wrong to be robbed and such but look at the tgirls that get beaten or killed.



PS-I just do it in the parking lots, not many guys want to come to my hood.

[Prospero]

If I was in upstate New York I' come see you Yvonne.

[Yvonne183]

If I was in upstate New York I' come see you Yvonne.

Visiting hours are from 10:00 to 2:00,, I'll be here.

[Dino Velvet]

Visiting hours are from 10:00 to 2:00,, I'll be here.

Visiting hours? I don't need any stinking visiting hours. Just invite me inside.

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[tsadriana]

i dont trust in outcalls

[Dino Velvet]

i dont trust in outcalls

Ambush.

[BeardedOne]

In or out, the safety of the situation is all in how you and the gurl handle it.

My first time with a transgirl was at a motel by the airport. We'd done some communication beforehand (I'm a chatty kinda guy and like to have some idea of who I'm getting up with before a date) and so there was a bit of mutual trust before we met. The first date went on to a second where we met at a nicer hotel for a day and spent a very nice time together. To her credit, as we still didn't know each other very well, when she had to leave the room for a bit she handed me her driver's license as a guarantee that she'd be coming back.

My second encounter was with a well-known star that was more worried about me than I was of her. We met at her hotel room and I did have some suspicion that she had friends in the adjoining room, just for backup. Later visits were more as friends than client/provider.

Recent encounters of an escort nature have all been on my turf, so to speak. Usually when I am travelling. I stay in better hotels, rather than no-tell motels, and usually have some history/rapport with the staff. It provides a nice buffer between me and the real world and extends a certain amount of security, both for me and my date. This sort of arrangement works best for me as I don't have a cell phone and it gives the provider a way of calling back to verify my identity and location. I learned that lesson from Mia Fever when she blew me off because I wasn't in touch with the current century.

As for other advice: If you carry anything more than the agreed upon fee with you to a 'date' then you deserve to get boosted. When I had trust issues with a date I carried just the agreed amount and a bit more for tip/dinner/sundries. If they bag my wallet, they get my license (Which does not have my home address on it) and an ATM card that's worth a whopping $50.

It's just common sense, really. Which most people lack in droves. I can't begin to count the number of horror stories that I've heard about clients treated badly or gurls jailed or beaten that include the dreaded words '...Craigs List...'. :rolleyes:

Oh, and call it what you will, in call, out call, whatever...No one comes to my house, ever. I'm not that cruel.