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FreddieGomez
01-01-2012, 12:58 AM
Do trannys lack self esteem? It seems most show off their breasts, dress overly provocatively merely to entice attention, ect. I know some genetic women do too, but trannys seem more likely to lack self esteem and try to compensate for it by being a sex object, as if that's all they're worth and have to offer.

Also i find it unappealing when a genetic woman does this as well. A confident and classy woman who doesn't have to show her tits and ass is sexier than one that does.

Any thoughts?

onmyknees
01-01-2012, 01:09 AM
LMFAO....No matter how much you try, you always come off less than complimentary.

I'd say it occurs to me you're judging the many by the few. If you're talking about TS ladies you see in clubs, or in porn well sure they dress provocatively. Why wouldn't they? I for one am glad they do. The same would be true for GG's. My guess is there are many more Trans women who don't frequent clubs, or shoot porn who are content to live their lives quietly and unassumingly, but let's see what the girls have to say.

Wendy Summers
01-01-2012, 01:16 AM
Do trannys lack self esteem? It seems most show off their breasts, dress overly provocatively merely to entice attention, ect. I know some genetic women do too, but trannys seem more likely to lack self esteem and try to compensate for it by being a sex object, as if that's all they're worth and have to offer.

Also i find it unappealing when a genetic woman does this as well. A confident and classy woman who doesn't have to show her tits and ass is sexier than one that does.

Any thoughts?

I think you are drawing overly broad generalizations. There's many reasons beyond low self-esteem which are motivating factors, particularly if you're using this thread to try to bait folks on the board. Let's face it, on some level most TS's posting here are making bank based on being perceived as sex objects. Financial incentives and exhibitionism add to it. So of course your perception here will be skewed by that.

giovanni_hotel
01-01-2012, 01:27 AM
We're on a PORN FORUM.

Suddenly it's 'unusual' that girls are nekkid???lol
Weak sauce, Freddy.

Just like you, these ladies don't LIVE on HA. They stop by for a visit.
IRL I bet they're like most women, modestly sexy.

Yeah I took the bait. I know you must be bored on New's Year Ever and are trolling for the suckas to bite.

Funny to listen to you play the 'prude card' on HA.lol

Dino Velvet
01-01-2012, 01:30 AM
I'm probably as much of an attention whore as anyone. I use this place as a Confessional when the priests and shrinks shine me on and shut their doors to me. I have no other alternative than to spew my crap, hate, confusion, lust, addiction, or the latest movie/music I enjoyed right in here for all to see and mock. I am no better than shit. In real life I'm worse, not better.

FreddieGomez
01-01-2012, 01:40 AM
never mind.

GroobySteven
01-01-2012, 01:42 AM
I think a lot of them do Freddie. Given their upbringing, their struggles and their transition then low self-esteem undoubtably creeps in.

What's your reasons for your low self-esteem? Your constant sniping at people, putting people down, criticizing girls (and guys) shows that obviously you have similar problems?

FreddieGomez
01-01-2012, 01:44 AM
I think a lot of them do Freddie. Given their upbringing, their struggles and their transition then low self-esteem undoubtably creeps in.

What's your reasons for your low self-esteem? Your constant sniping at people, putting people down, criticizing girls (and guys) shows that obviously you have similar problems?

to an extent.

although don't show my dick like other dudes on this site, who do so in a similar fashion as the trannys do, wanting to be accepted for their dick and not for who they really are as a person.

TsJizelle
01-01-2012, 01:45 AM
I dress like a slut in spite of my "low self-esteem"

fuck you big nose!!! I'll just make sure everyone looks at my tits instead hahaha

like for real? as Kevin Dong would say ..."is this real life?" hahaha

GroobySteven
01-01-2012, 01:46 AM
to an extent.

although don't show my dick like other dudes on this site, who do so in a similar fashion as the trannys do, wanting to be accepted for their dick and not for who they really are as a person.

That's a fair point but I think the dudes who show their dick only don't have esteem issues but other problems. You show your face so your confident enough to put yourself out there - but why then feel the need to put others down at the same time?

GroobySteven
01-01-2012, 01:46 AM
fuck you big nose!!! I'll just make sure everyone looks at my tits instead hahaha



Leave my nose alone ... it's distinctive.

Dino Velvet
01-01-2012, 01:49 AM
When the girls show their dick they are selling it. That makes sense to me. What I don't get are the fellas doing it. Many times their friends comment on their buddy's cock and things get a little uncomfortable. This is a porno site and I wouldn't show a picture of myself in a parka and executioner's hood playing solitaire. I'm not even sure I exist and that's how I like it.

Dino Velvet
01-01-2012, 01:51 AM
Leave my nose alone ... it's distinctive.

My nose is somewhere in-between Bob Hope and Vladimir Putin. Don't let them get 'ya down.:cheers:

FreddieGomez
01-01-2012, 01:51 AM
That's a fair point but I think the dudes who show their dick only don't have esteem issues but other problems. You show your face so your confident enough to put yourself out there - but why then feel the need to put others down at the same time?

Well who have i put down recently? ErikaSpangler?

I don't remember putting anybody else down previously.

In my opinion I have changed alot since I first started posting.

Some things do irk me, but lately i just bite my tongue and ignore it.

There are so many threads i could be posting in, but i feel if it doesn't concern me don't bother.

Also my questions may come off rude or disrespectful, but it's never my intention. People read way too into things. I feel if you don't like what has been posted then don't respond, that's what i do! Why instigate drama by responding in a spiteful manner? Otherwise you're just as bad as you claim i am putting in your 2 cents. I'd also like to verify this isn't directed at anyone in particular, i'm saying it in general.


Thank you for reading and Happy New year.

Dino Velvet
01-01-2012, 01:55 AM
Water seeks its own level and we unfortunately all belong here and together as a horribly dysfunctional family. Praise The Lord, Pass The Ammunition, and Happy New Year, perverts. The stew is getting stickier and slimier but also tastier.

GroobySteven
01-01-2012, 01:56 AM
Also my questions may come off rude or disrespectful, but it's never my intention. People read way too into things.

If that's truly the case, then you might want to think about why it comes off that way without being your intention. You seem articulate and reasonable, so how can you ask the same questions or make the same statements without people "reading way too into" it?

Have a good New Year everyone. 3 mins to midnight and the rest of the family is in bed ... off to join them!

Dino Velvet
01-01-2012, 01:58 AM
Have a good New Year everyone. 3 mins to midnight and the rest of the family is in bed ... off to join them!

A quick Happy New Year to you and yours then, Seanchai!:cheers:

Yvonne183
01-01-2012, 03:29 AM
Ha ha ha,, I think I remember a picture of Freddie showing his abs, I could be wrong but I believe I saw this pic of him. And the last place I saw men showing their abs was at Monster gay club in the basement dance area. lol,, just kidding, well maybe.

I have to say this though, in a way Freddie is right. When going to a tgirl club many of the girls do dress showing a lot of skin, maybe not totally nude but kinda sexy. But that is only the girls that I saw in clubs, I am quite sure their are loads of tgirls who dress different, cause we can not see all the tgirls of the world, that is impossible. But people on this forum, men and tgilrs will see more tgirls that dress the way Freddie says, cause it's the way of this forum, sort the business of things.

Anyways, to say one group of people do things a certain way is a type of stereotyping. Unless we can say for certain that all or most people of this said group all act in a collective way, then it's just stereotyping.

RallyCola
01-01-2012, 07:54 AM
A person's self-esteem is always in flux depending on the situation you are in.

A tgirl is no different. There is a full range of emotion from narcissism to self-deprecation that must run through the mind of someone selling themselves for sex, which are the trannies I think you must be talking about. The tgirls that i know that have nothing to do with the sex trade are no different than the every day average woman trying to cope with life and its stresses.

So in general, I could answer your question by echoing what has already been said...some tgirls absolutely suffer from low self-esteem but it is not a norm that need be applied to all.