Bigger Disappointment Bailey Jay or Domino Presley?

[TSPornFan]

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Bailey Jay and Domino Presley have very large followings. They were very popular before getting implants. Now after having implants neither girl has none anything note worthy in porn. Domino's site hasn't not updated in nearly a month. Domino hasn't been seen on other sites. Bailey Jay is doing her usual boring photosets for her site.

A lot of people said Bailey would be the next queen in transsexual porn. That hasn't been the case. No pornstar can be the best without doing anything.

To both of you ladies, Good Luck In Your Future Endeavors.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Franklin - where's your Christmas cheer?

Both ladies have made a name cause of their fans...shouldn't that be what matters?

Your fans are who place you on a pedestal.

Fans are what matter and fans are what are pushing girls to the mainstream.

[Dino Velvet]

Great pic of Road Warrior Animal's brother. Laurinaitis has found a way to make the boring gimmick work. He even uses the "Future Endeavors" line in his promos.

John Laurinaitis wishes John Morrison the best in all Future Endeavors - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxtgSngr_WQ)

[lisaparadise]

Franklin - where's your Christmas cheer?

Both ladies have made a name cause of their fans...shouldn't that be what matters?

Your fans are who place you on a pedestal.

Fans are what matter and fans are what are pushing girls to the mainstream.not true blondie fans fuel our egos what you do and how you carry yourself in public during everyday life day in day out is what puts us on a pedestal.dont make me spank ya lol

[MrsKellyPierce]

not true blondie fans fuel our egos what you do and how you carry yourself in public during everyday life day in day out is what puts us on a pedestal.dont make me spank ya lol
I just meant a lot of girls forget with out fans they'd be nowhere - they think it's all about them...

Some girls I see on twitter are even rude to their fans...

I'm just saying fans are the driving force in this business..

[TSPornFan]

Franklin - where's your Christmas cheer?

Both ladies have made a name cause of their fans...shouldn't that be what matters?

Your fans are who place you on a pedestal.

Fans are what matter and fans are what are pushing girls to the mainstream.

Yes, fans pushed them to mainstream. Domino is much more justified because she actually did work with many different companies and has done more than just nude photsets. Domino hasn't done much at all after getting implants just like Bailey.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Yes, fans pushed them to mainstream. Domino is much more justified because she actually did work with many different companies and has done more than just nude photsets. Domino hasn't done much at all after getting implants just like Bailey.
Maybe she is still healing?

[tsmandy]

Why do you always got to hate on everything Franklin? Don't be such a hater. Both girls are living their lives in a way that suits them.

[TSPornFan]

Why do you always got to hate on everything Franklin? Don't be such a hater. Both girls are living their lives in a way that suits them.

Why must you girls act like no one should criticize you? People had expectations for both of them and neither has come close to meeting expectations. That's their personal choices. I am not criticizing them as people. I am criticizing their porn careers.

[MissBStar]

Kelly makes sense. She's probably still healing. It takes time to get back into the swing of things after any surgery really.


Time will tell

[TSPornFan]

Maybe she is still healing?

No, Domino has done a little bit of work and one hardcore scene post-boob job. She hasn't done anything at all. I joined her site after her boob job. There was a point that her site did not update in a month without any warning. She posted on her blog that she was on vacation which was cool but at least tell your paying costumers that they will not be getting any updates. Don't leave paying costumers in the dark.

[THEbottom]

Bottom line both girls made the choice that made them happy. Their fan results with implants however are not at all unusual----Veronica Bolt, Sandy Lopes, Angel and on and on and on have all opted for implants and their popularity has dropped in many cases. Remember, however that in the end their responsibility is to their happiness and well being not the happiness of their fans. They are human beings with desires and needs that are uniquely theirs and are more than entitled to pursue those needs and desires. Personally I think any Tgirl that opts for implants is making a mistake, but that's my opinion. Whether I think they are right or wrong is of no consequence, what they feel is right is all that matters.

[Silcc69]

All Baily Jay does is jack off and suck some guys dick. I don't know much about what has been going on with Domino. But Franklin is right about BJ. BJ is the same space as Sarina Valetina in the looks department but Sarina does outstanding work these days. Not the same case for BJ.

[TSPornFan]

Bottom line both girls made the choice that made them happy. Their fan results with implants however are not at all unusual----Veronica Bolt, Sandy Lopes, Angel and on and on and on have all opted for implants and their popularity has dropped in many cases. Remember, however that in the end their responsibility is to their happiness and well being not the happiness of their fans. They are human beings with desires and needs that are uniquely theirs and are more than entitled to pursue those needs and desires. Personally I think any Tgirl that opts for implants is making a mistake, but that's my opinion. Whether I think they are right or wrong is of no consequence, what they feel is right is all that matters.

I am not attacking their personal lives. I criticized their porn careers.

[tsmandy]

Anyways, its common knowledge that the prettier a girl is the less she has to do to keep people paying for subscriptions. It's just evolution.

[GroobySteven]

Anyways, its common knowledge that the prettier a girl is the less she has to do to keep people paying for subscriptions. It's just evolution.

Then how come you've got to take a whole arm up your ass? Or maybe you'd be doing that anyway? :-) I think people get sick of pretty, pretty fast if they're not delivering.

[tsmandy]

Steven I have never taken a whole arm up my butt! I'm shocked at the accusation. I can almost take a tiny fist, but I can't do that kind of stuff. My hole is tight!

I just like doing all the nasty stuff. It's fun!

[TSPornFan]

Anyways, its common knowledge that the prettier a girl is the less she has to do to keep people paying for subscriptions. It's just evolution.


Then how come you've got to take a whole arm up your ass? Or maybe you'd be doing that anyway? :-) I think people get sick of pretty, pretty fast if they're not delivering.


Seanchai is right. Bailey Jay is a MAJOR exception. No other girl has become so popular by doing so little. Sarina Valentina, Kimber James, Vaniity, and Yasmin Lee are considered to be four of the hottest TS women in the business and they do a lot of work.

[GroobySteven]

Steven I have never taken a whole arm up my butt! I'm shocked at the accusation. I can almost take a tiny fist, but I can't do that kind of stuff. My hole is tight!

I just like doing all the nasty stuff. It's fun!

A tiny fist ... like a monkey's paw?

[karaalextv]

My guess is both gals are too busy getting showered with gifts and money....

Really, they are both prettier than 98% of GG's on this planet...

Implants just put them in the 99% category...

[karaalextv]

yup, you "get it"

The really really pretty (dare I say passable) girls are gonna find life a "bit" easier

[Silcc69]

Steven I have never taken a whole arm up my butt! I'm shocked at the accusation. I can almost take a tiny fist, but I can't do that kind of stuff. My hole is tight!

I just like doing all the nasty stuff. It's fun!

That is TV Kim's job.

[sucka4chix]

From MY perspective, neither one is a disappointment. Bailey Jay can't be a disappointment because the mania about her can only be explained by witchcraft! I mean guys were foaming at the mouth for her for years and when I finally saw her I was like "really"? Not being disrespectful, but just don't see what she has that 100s of other girls don't have. So to me, she's over achieved.
Domino, on the other hand, I found hot even when she was doing drag. I was ecstatic that she decided to get into porn and "get fucked alot". So anything she puts out to me is cake; she could still be floundering at some ATL drag bar! And when she did the pin-up thing with the red hair, omg, that's enough to last a year or two. The hair really worked for her!

[MissBStar]

I think people get sick of pretty, pretty fast if they're not delivering.

wise words :)

[onmyknees]

I guess somebody has to keep track of all these gurls, and who has new boobs, new lips, who is considering surgery, etc....so it may as well be Franklin. I have a life, so I don't keep tabs on that kinda shit. Having said that, if I plunked down my money for a couple months, and didn't see an update I might be pissed too.

I disperse my love around, so as not to be too disappointed by one or 2 particular gurls. Try that Franklin, it might work out for ya.

[Quiet Reflections]

My guess is both gals are too busy getting showered with gifts and money....

Really, they are both prettier than 98% of GG's on this planet...

Implants just put them in the 99% category...
I just going to assume that is hyperbole

[NatashaLover]

Kelly makes sense. She's probably still healing. It takes time to get back into the swing of things after any surgery really.


Time will tell


LOLOLOL
:salad:fuckin::party::iagree:

[sharkmizzle]

Why is it this turtle always pops into my head when I hear the name Franklin?

[Ineeda SM]

Bottom line both girls made the choice that made them happy. Their fan results with implants however are not at all unusual----Veronica Bolt, Sandy Lopes, Angel and on and on and on have all opted for implants and their popularity has dropped in many cases. Remember, however that in the end their responsibility is to their happiness and well being not the happiness of their fans. They are human beings with desires and needs that are uniquely theirs and are more than entitled to pursue those needs and desires. Personally I think any Tgirl that opts for implants is making a mistake, but that's my opinion. Whether I think they are right or wrong is of no consequence, what they feel is right is all that matters.

Of course I am no expert, but I am one of the many fans of TS here. I have to agree with THEbottom. Most guys like the natural look in breasts whether it is a GG or TS. Too many girls get implants that are too big, and they never look real. They look lumpy or uneven, and nothing is worse than seeing nipples that are 3 inches off to the side near their armpits, down below almost out of sight, or way up high close to their neck. And touching them feels hard with lumps. That is not how breasts are supposed to look and feel. They actually look better with clothing than they look naked.

There are quite a few girls with very natural looking implants, and they are very appealing. But they were smart enough to have the proper size implants installed. They didn't go crazy to look like 2 half watermellons were glued to their chest.

I understand that TS girls do this for their happiness and self confidence. But too many just do it for the money from doing porn. I guess it is a matter of personal preference as to if they look nice or not. Personally I think Bailey went too big. She used to look real and natural. She is still beautiful and sexy, but her oversized implants look fake. For me this takes away from her appeal. If I were paying to see her site, I would not be happy, nor would I pay for another month.

I can not be the only person who feels this way, so it is only normal to assume that she will lose popularity. The same goes for Domino, or any of the girls, GG or TS, with over sized implants. If 1,000 people love that, and only 100 people do not, then she may lose the loyalty of 100 people. Considering the reality that they have many more fans than 1,000, you can also be realistic that they have lost far more than 100 fans.

I love all of the TS girls. I appreciate what you have gone through to become who you are. And you have my humble respect. I just wish that many of you would use some common sense when chosing the size of the implants you will aquire. If you can not do this, then don't get implants at all. Very small natural breast are more appealing than big fake unnatural looking breasts.

[TSPornFan]

Of course I am no expert, but I am one of the many fans of TS here. I have to agree with THEbottom. Most guys like the natural look in breasts whether it is a GG or TS. Too many girls get implants that are too big, and they never look real. They look lumpy or uneven, and nothing is worse than seeing nipples that are 3 inches off to the side near their armpits, down below almost out of sight, or way up high close to their neck. And touching them feels hard with lumps. That is not how breasts are supposed to look and feel. They actually look better with clothing than they look naked.

There are quite a few girls with very natural looking implants, and they are very appealing. But they were smart enough to have the proper size implants installed. They didn't go crazy to look like 2 half watermellons were glued to their chest.

I understand that TS girls do this for their happiness and self confidence. But too many just do it for the money from doing porn. I guess it is a matter of personal preference as to if they look nice or not. Personally I think Bailey went too big. She used to look real and natural. She is still beautiful and sexy, but her oversized implants look fake. For me this takes away from her appeal. If I were paying to see her site, I would not be happy, nor would I pay for another month.

I can not be the only person who feels this way, so it is only normal to assume that she will lose popularity. The same goes for Domino, or any of the girls, GG or TS, with over sized implants. If 1,000 people love that, and only 100 people do not, then she may lose the loyalty of 100 people. Considering the reality that they have many more fans than 1,000, you can also be realistic that they have lost far more than 100 fans.

I love all of the TS girls. I appreciate what you have gone through to become who you are. And you have my humble respect. I just wish that many of you would use some common sense when chosing the size of the implants you will aquire. If you can not do this, then don't get implants at all. Very small natural breast are more appealing than big fake unnatural looking breasts.

GG's have natural looking breat. TS women have to take hormones to have breast without implants. However, most TS women's breast don't look completely feminine nor have the roundness that GG's breast have.

[RallyCola]

i'm going to drop a little knowledge and i am shocked no one has really covered this on this thread. the reason for lack of content is NOT breast implants. it is just a matter of economics.

tgirls and ggirls get into porn for the SAME reasons...its easy money. once they have made as much money as they want/need, or once they have found something else in life they want to do other than porn, its their choice to slow down or retire. they owe fans nothing. they produced a product and its up to you to buy it or not while they produce it. once they no longer feel the need to produce it, be it because of market demands (ie not getting calls from producers) or personal choice...so be it.

now, the problem as i see it is truly oversaturation and we have the guys at SMC and Grooby to thank for it. there is NO REASON why there need to be so many solo sites other than girls trying to maximize revenue and take it away from producers. So companies like Grooby and SMC decided to go all in with solo sites for a 50/50 split in revenue. That means that content is diluted across so many sites, driving down the value for the consumer who needs to carry multiple memberships to see the girls they want to see. So when you don't see a girl on Club or Yum for some time, you expect that their solo site will have something...when it doesn't, you get disappointed.

But, what really drives rebills for all these sites, solos or otherwise, is the simple fact that we need to fap...and we want what's next and with every passing week, and every update, we HOPE we will get what we want. Yes, we are tired of boring bailey jay JO scenes or seeing her suck matt's dick POV. Yes, we are tired of waiting for domino or hazel to put new stuff on their solo sites....but too many of us still wait and pay for it in hopes that when that once scene comes along that we want, we can fap and fap and fap till the morning comes.

Just cancel your memberships and then when the revenue stream dries up for these girls and the production houses, things will get better. Until then, we only have ourselves to blame.

[TSPornFan]

i'm going to drop a little knowledge and i am shocked no one has really covered this on this thread. the reason for lack of content is NOT breast implants. it is just a matter of economics.

tgirls and ggirls get into porn for the SAME reasons...its easy money. once they have made as much money as they want/need, or once they have found something else in life they want to do other than porn, its their choice to slow down or retire. they owe fans nothing. they produced a product and its up to you to buy it or not while they produce it. once they no longer feel the need to produce it, be it because of market demands (ie not getting calls from producers) or personal choice...so be it.

now, the problem as i see it is truly oversaturation and we have the guys at SMC and Grooby to thank for it. there is NO REASON why there need to be so many solo sites other than girls trying to maximize revenue and take it away from producers. So companies like Grooby and SMC decided to go all in with solo sites for a 50/50 split in revenue. That means that content is diluted across so many sites, driving down the value for the consumer who needs to carry multiple memberships to see the girls they want to see. So when you don't see a girl on Club or Yum for some time, you expect that their solo site will have something...when it doesn't, you get disappointed.

But, what really drives rebills for all these sites, solos or otherwise, is the simple fact that we need to fap...and we want what's next and with every passing week, and every update, we HOPE we will get what we want. Yes, we are tired of boring bailey jay JO scenes or seeing her suck matt's dick POV. Yes, we are tired of waiting for domino or hazel to put new stuff on their solo sites....but too many of us still wait and pay for it in hopes that when that once scene comes along that we want, we can fap and fap and fap till the morning comes.

Just cancel your memberships and then when the revenue stream dries up for these girls and the production houses, things will get better. Until then, we only have ourselves to blame.

Very good post. I canceled my member to Domino's site and have no plans on returning.

I believe there are more active TS solo sites than there are active GG's solo sites. You must also remember there are not many companies in the US who shoot TS porn. There are many companies in the US who shoot TS women outside of the country but hey they shoot American GG's for their straight porn. The lack of work is why there are so many solo TS sites. That's not a bad thing. The majority of SMC's girls update their sites.

[Ineeda SM]

GG's have natural looking breat. TS women have to take hormones to have breast without implants. However, most TS women's breast don't look completely feminine nor have the roundness that GG's breast have.

That's not always true Franklin. Yes TS must take hormones to develop natural breast. But the key word is "NATURAL". They are not fake. They grew from the same Estro hormones as naturally as any GG grows them, and many TS have developed very nice and natural looking breast from the hormones alone. My girlfriend has natural breasts from hormones, and they look and feel every bit as good as most GG breasts. They are not large, but they are not small either. But far more than enough fill a 32B bra. And to put that in proportion, she is 5' 8", and about 120lbs.

And on the reverse side, many GG have natural breasts that do not look natural.

The problem with both GG and TS is when they get implants, they usually over size them. Not always, but usually. IMHO they lose some of their femininity. They start to look like those over exagerated cartoon breasts. If any girl feels the need to get implants, I just wish they would use common sense and get the size that flatter them. Isn't that the idea of implants? To have flattering breasts that look real?

[NatashaLover]

What about these?

[Ineeda SM]

What about these?

Oh dear nurse. aaaaaoooooooooooooo (wolf howling).:dancing:

[Silcc69]

What about these?

I can see ur veins that shit is sexy!

[TSCURIOUS]

Natasha - STUNNING!!!

[Nivek]

Why must you girls act like no one should criticize you? People had expectations for both of them and neither has come close to meeting expectations. That's their personal choices. I am not criticizing them as people. I am criticizing their porn careers.

In what way are you not criticizing them as people Franklin? Maybe they decided to be content with THEIR own expectations of themselves and are quite content where it has gotten them and are doing their own thing. Again with pointing ppl out n criticizing them like your opinion is gonna get them back into porn. Tell u what, you do gay porn for five years, tell me when ur paychecks start topping your bills and other necessities. Then when you feel like your tired, or just wanna stop n be happy, u tell me how you will feel when some nobody on his daily soapbox says you didnt meet their expectations. Grow the fuck up and move on.

[NatashaLover]

Oh dear nurse. aaaaaoooooooooooooo (wolf howling).:dancing:
Thank you!


I can see ur veins that shit is sexy!
Thank you!


Natasha - STUNNING!!!
And more Thank you! :):party:

[Dino Velvet]

What about these?

I wanna get nursed by the nurse.

[NatashaLover]

:)
I wanna get nursed by the nurse.

And the best thing is that they breast feed for real! :) :party:

[Dino Velvet]

:)

And the best thing is that they breast feed for real! :) :party:

Great. I'll get some Ovaltine.

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[msharrow]

What about these?
lovely breasts !

[kilakali]

Natasha can solve the worlds hunger problem with those breast....:wiggle:

[effigyc]

Wow, thats a tough call. I've wanted to hook up with both of them forever. But I guess since Bailey's married anyway, I'm more disappointed Domino doesn't want me. Oh.... was that not what this thread was about?

[NatashaLover]

lovely breasts !

:) thanks dear. :wiggle:


Natasha can solve the worlds hunger problem with those breast....:wiggle:
Maybe I can't, but at least I will be able to feed a few.
:love1:dancing:

[JP Ewing]

It is safe to say that if anyone is disappointing, it certainly isn't Natasha. Wow Natasha! You are beautiful in every way!

[RallyCola]

The lack of work is why there are so many solo TS sites. That's not a bad thing. The majority of SMC's girls update their sites.

the reason there is a "lack" of work is that the market doesn't demand it and also, the economy sucks right now and perhaps rebills have taken a hit because people don't want to plunk down $100 or more per month on various sites.

also, not all SMC sites are updated equally...making their multipass discount for 13 sites false advertising.

finally, solo sites aren't a bad thing for the girls or the production houses, they are just a bad idea for the consumer because like it said, it dilutes the amount of quality sites. its a catch 22....if a site like one of the Grooby sites or Club featured 1 bailey set, one domino set and one hazel set (for example) a month, that is 3 less sets to show a new girl or at least a less exposed girl....some fans would love to see that material and others want only their favorite girls. So the answer is a solo site for die hard fans leaving larger sites to have an occasional feature but also show other girls. BUT then, you are paying for multiple memberships and we have situations like this arise that you "get disappointed" in the quality (bailey) or quantity (domino or hazel) of work being produced.

finally, i just wanted to address one point i read earlier...that no one has come so fast in porn without doing anything (paraphrased) when referring to bailey. the issue here is tgirls needed an ambassador to mainstream american and she could have been it, especially because of the AVN win last year. That she has done nothing with that mantle is the most disappointing thing of her career.

in the end...girls will make quality porn for as long as they are compensated and as long as they see fit. its their job. its just your job as a consumer to reward their efforts or not. i'm just simply saying that though I adore many of the girls with solo sites, i abhor the idea as nothing but another way to squeeze a dollar from the consumer...its no different than grooby having 150 different shemale sites but the same girls on each. Its a money grab. No one is wrong here, not the girls or the production houses, because the market allows it to happen. Grooby, SMC and the girls deserve to make as much money as we the consumers allow them to make. To say you are disappointed in the product that you've paid for, while continuing to pay for it is just stupid.

[TSPornFan]

the reason there is a "lack" of work is that the market doesn't demand it and also, the economy sucks right now and perhaps rebills have taken a hit because people don't want to plunk down $100 or more per month on various sites.


I think the market is there. Transsexual porn is the 4th best selling porn.

[RallyCola]

i don't think you understand that when i say market...what i mean is that revenue from solo sites or even larger varied sites for each girl is far less than they could make escorting or on cam shows. so if they turn their attention to what makes them the most money, it won't be to record videos for a website...but to meet clients for $400/hr or do a cam show that makes them more money.

if the market was so in demand for online videos, each girl would be inundated with new memberships and rebills...but they are not.

[LibertyHarkness]

the reason is piracy ... piracy has almost destroyed the profits achieved for many solo girls .... myself as an example my site costs me a fair bit to run each month ... hardcore model fees, hosting, time spent editing, petrol, clothing etc

what is disheartening is when i pay out 1000dollars to shoot a scene... get it live on my site and within 48hours some cunt has plastered it all over a number of filesharing sites ....and its being downloaded like 25,000 times ,, that directly affects my profitibly as logic would say out of that number of downloads at least a few would have signed up to my website if they had not found my scene ripped ...

Now this affects models/site owners in many ways personally. one of hte main being whats the point ....why bother putting to much effort to make amazing scenes etc .if its just being ripped instantly .. just do enough to keep interest and boost the webcam/escorting ....

TS market is immensely popular and its splitting as its getting into more straight side fans as well, i know myself as i shoot alot with straight mainstream porn females i am picking up many fans that have never looked at TS porn before.. I have lots of requiests from fans asking me to shoot with xyz female pornstar from uk or usa .. so the market is there ... people will always want porn as quickj as 1 person tires of tranny porn another person steps into the fray :)

For me i see it as a combination of reasons why , and they are all interlinked ...

econmy - piracey - mundane scenes - slow updates - minimal ROI

But on a positive there are lots of girls that love and enjoy their work myself, joanna, sammi valentine , delia TS are just a few ...

[GroobySteven]

the reason there is a "lack" of work is that the market doesn't demand it and also, the economy sucks right now and perhaps rebills have taken a hit because people don't want to plunk down $100 or more per month on various sites.

also, not all SMC sites are updated equally...making their multipass discount for 13 sites false advertising.

finally, solo sites aren't a bad thing for the girls or the production houses, they are just a bad idea for the consumer because like it said, it dilutes the amount of quality sites. its a catch 22....if a site like one of the Grooby sites or Club featured 1 bailey set, one domino set and one hazel set (for example) a month, that is 3 less sets to show a new girl or at least a less exposed girl....some fans would love to see that material and others want only their favorite girls. So the answer is a solo site for die hard fans leaving larger sites to have an occasional feature but also show other girls. BUT then, you are paying for multiple memberships and we have situations like this arise that you "get disappointed" in the quality (bailey) or quantity (domino or hazel) of work being produced.

finally, i just wanted to address one point i read earlier...that no one has come so fast in porn without doing anything (paraphrased) when referring to bailey. the issue here is tgirls needed an ambassador to mainstream american and she could have been it, especially because of the AVN win last year. That she has done nothing with that mantle is the most disappointing thing of her career.

in the end...girls will make quality porn for as long as they are compensated and as long as they see fit. its their job. its just your job as a consumer to reward their efforts or not. i'm just simply saying that though I adore many of the girls with solo sites, i abhor the idea as nothing but another way to squeeze a dollar from the consumer...its no different than grooby having 150 different shemale sites but the same girls on each. Its a money grab. No one is wrong here, not the girls or the production houses, because the market allows it to happen. Grooby, SMC and the girls deserve to make as much money as we the consumers allow them to make. To say you are disappointed in the product that you've paid for, while continuing to pay for it is just stupid.


You've made some good points Rallycola and I'll address them from a business point of view as some of your statements, although I can see your way of thinking, are incorrect. This of course, is for Grooby, I can't speak for other sites or networks which seem to share the same content across multiple sites.

A solo site comes about usually because the model wants a one and it's not always about the cold hard finances but because she wants the "prestige" of having a site and somewhere to engage her fans and have her own creativity rather than just working for other sites. I think this is good for the business because it's a way for diehard fans of that model or those wanting more of her specifically, to get their fixes quickly. I do think it's a shame that many of the girls can't stick to a weekly update and provide the members what they've paid for. This is one of the reasons that we've done the Grooby Network (http://www.groobynetwork.com) so that the models know and take control of their own responsibilities more and we don't have the issues of chasing them down for material. Although the sites are still up and a worth joining for a month considering the amount of available content, we've stopped advertising or promoting a couple of our solo girl websites because of lack of updates.

We'll continue to bring in girls who have solo sites to whatever properties of ours they fit. Joanna Jet and Sammi Valentine has just shot for us, Domino is scheduled for a new Shemale Pornstar shoot and I think Amy is due one of those also, I've been enquiring about some of the classic girls like Carmen Moore, Foxxy, etc who we haven't see for a while. It's a shame some of the new girls with solo sites are getting locked into non-compete clauses as that's hurting both that models opportunities to make much more revenue and also the consumers ability to see more of them.


Creating multiple websites is a business plan but each website is aiming to a different demograph and of course, when most savvy surfers move around websites, trying to compete with the competition. As long as there is value for money on those sites, then this can only be good for the models (more work for them), the fans (more shoots of their models) and the industry. Shemale Yum (http://www.shemaleyum.com) has the budget and the agenda to provide 28 sets every 4 weeks, including 2 hardcores (usually of returning models). Generally each week there would be the introduction of 1-2 brand new models and the rest returns of newer models or some of the established stars. So with about 200 unique models a year being shown, if we were to only show the ones people wanted more of, we'd never be able to find and test new models (which is actually what a lot of people wish for). Black models were originally part of Shemale Yum (http://www.shemaleyum.com) but when more people wanted more black models, we split the sites into two creating Black Tgirls (http://www.black-tgirls.com), therefore providing the fans of black models only, with much better value for their money. Some people wanted more hardcore, some people want more fetish, some people want the more glamouress models and some people want country or ethnic-centric models - so this is the reason we create more sites. Trying to capture more of the marketplace. It gives the consumer more choice and nobody has to be locked in to a subscription. For the one-off monthly charge, any of our sites including the solo sites give you more than value for money.

The main reason many solo sites stop working is simply because most models aren't willing to put the time an energy into their product which takes a long time to make a decent return. Girls get very excited about the launch of their sites and despite giving them as much information as possible, they become despondent when not pulling down $1000's in first months and lose interest fast. The is especially true of those who escort or have other potentially easier or faster revenue streams. There is money to be made in SOME solo models sites and there are girls working for us and other companies doing very decently, because they work daily at it and provide the customer what they want but realistically, not every model is going to be able to capture enough of the pool of potential paying consumers, to make a good profit/living.

I believe your last line "Grooby, SMC and the girls deserve to make as much money as we the consumers allow them to make. To say you are disappointed in the product that you've paid for, while continuing to pay for it is just stupid." is the most apt.
If you aren't happy with a product, cancel the membership and let the site owner know why. Maybe they can make changes, maybe they can't - but continuing to pay and complain about a poor site, makes no sense.

[GroobySteven]

I think the market is there. Transsexual porn is the 4th best selling porn.

Where did you see that?

[sucka4chix]

Um....I don't know what other guys are doing (and from most posts on HA I thought I was the only one PAYING for porn), but I don't do solo sites. It's not cost effective. It is impossible for them to have enough content--impossible. And I like variety-- today might be euro girl day but tomorrow might be Asian day. So I stick with sites with alot of content. BUT, nobody will make me rebill!! What's the point? If I can see all your shit in a month, is your site gonna double in size next month? No so I'm getting diminishing returns. I won't go back for months. I'm not gonna pay for a whole month just to get 30 minutes worth of new porn!!

[GroobySteven]

By far the cheapest and most effective way to see lots of sites, for one month blocks of time only and you can start stop anytime you wish.
http://www.grooby.com/tickets/index.html

[Mayrah]

That's not always true Franklin. Yes TS must take hormones to develop natural breast. But the key word is "NATURAL". They are not fake. They grew from the same Estro hormones as naturally as any GG grows them, and many TS have developed very nice and natural looking breast from the hormones alone. My girlfriend has natural breasts from hormones, and they look and feel every bit as good as most GG breasts. They are not large, but they are not small either. But far more than enough fill a 32B bra. And to put that in proportion, she is 5' 8", and about 120lbs.

And on the reverse side, many GG have natural breasts that do not look natural.

The problem with both GG and TS is when they get implants, they usually over size them. Not always, but usually. IMHO they lose some of their femininity. They start to look like those over exagerated cartoon breasts. If any girl feels the need to get implants, I just wish they would use common sense and get the size that flatter them. Isn't that the idea of implants? To have flattering breasts that look real?


Except when someone say she wants a surgery, any surgery almost every dude is screaming "NOOOOOOOOO", yet when a girl aint "passable" enough she gets shit thrown into her face.

Oh and today at the hormone docter, he said 70% of his patients has had breast augmentation because there isnt enough breast development as they all hoped for. (2nd biggest genderteam in our country)

[LibertyHarkness]

i dont even know if any girls listen to what admirers think about their surgeries choices .. myself i am impartial to what fans think of my surgery choices .. i was flamed before some FFS, still flamed after FFS lol and no doubt will get flamed more when i have final FFS tweaks in march.april and new boobs ... good job the only opionon that matters is mine :)

Girls should be doing surgery for themselves not for anyone else ..

[needsum]

i dont even know if any girls listen to what admirers think about their surgeries choices .. myself i am impartial to what fans think of my surgery choices .. i was flamed before some FFS, still flamed after FFS lol and no doubt will get flamed more when i have final FFS tweaks in march.april and new boobs ... good job the only opionon that matters is mine :)

Girls should be doing surgery for themselves not for anyone else ..

bingo. Those of us who love you for you will STILL love you for you after the SRS. Because its YOU we love, not the cock. the hounds will always find a new ladyboy to oogle over. As an example, I have always been a huge Danielle Foxx fan. When I first saw her was when I first realized I had an appreciation for transsexual women. over the years I grew more and more fond of her. When she announced she was having her SRS, I was happy. and when she had it I was elated for her. Seeing her now, in my opinion, she has never looked better, or sexier. its like she's finally a whole person. and I love her for it. So no matter what, if its what you need to do for you, then by all means do it.

[FreddieGomez]

Kelly makes sense. She's probably still healing. It takes time to get back into the swing of things after any surgery really.


Time will tell

u can't be serious. i've seen of these trannies get boob jobs and the next week they're already back to escorting.

[LibertyHarkness]

they are the not to bright ones freddie and end up with shiity boobs, scars etc , displaced implants etc ... the surgeons tell you not to do anything physical strenuous for 8 weeks for a reason .. Greed is another matter though :)

[RallyCola]

the issue with surgery is quite simple....

1) people don't like change so when an image you have come to accept changes, then you get upset

2) many men don't really want to admit that they like a more masculine form than the surgically enhanced, yet more feminine form. so some guys like harder features and smaller breasts. when the model they love elects to change that, see #1.

but libby has it right...girls should do whatever makes them happy and if their fans don't like it, they are easily replaced by fans that do like the new you.

libby...allow me to say this and i mean NO DISRESPECT...but i didn't become a fan of your work until after the FFS. its just my personal choice...like for example, i liked blonde emma stone (from new spiderman) more than redhead (from easy a). you are just far more cute now than before FFS. I am sure some fans didn't want you to have FFS but it doesn't matter as long as you are happy with the results.

[LibertyHarkness]

hehe no probs

[Tiffany Starr]

Well you can bet your ass i'll be doing a lot. When I get my new ass you'll be seeing updates up the whazoo! until then your still getting great content!

[RallyCola]

new ass? getting butt implants? i like your ass...what's to change?

[TSMichelleAustin]

Well I will speak for myself in this light. I work very hard on my site, and some people can contest to that. I actually give my members bonus content every week along with my regular updates. I produce my own content and its on my shoulders to keep guys wanting to come back. SO girls like myself and Brittany who produce our own sites have to work harder then girls in networks. Just some food for thought guys!

[tsmandy]

Well I will speak for myself in this light. I work very hard on my site, and some people can contest to that. I actually give my members bonus content every week along with my regular updates. I produce my own content and its on my shoulders to keep guys wanting to come back. SO girls like myself and Brittany who produce our own sites have to work harder then girls in networks. Just some food for thought guys!

Being in a network like SMC vs being in the Grooby Network that you are in?

I'm not sure how you are able to say its more work for you than us? I've been producing my own content for close to 5 years now, setting up shoots, arranging for people to shoot it, makeup, testing, the whole 9 yards. The amount of work any model puts into her career is kind of up to her. Honestly I'd prefer to not be running a solo site, and instead be working on a multi site, but I played some cards wrong (maybe some right) and currently I'm still doing my own thang.

[TSMichelleAustin]

Being in a network like SMC vs being in the Grooby Network that you are in?

I'm not sure how you are able to say its more work for you than us? I've been producing my own content for close to 5 years now, setting up shoots, arranging for people to shoot it, makeup, testing, the whole 9 yards. The amount of work any model puts into her career is kind of up to her. Honestly I'd prefer to not be running a solo site, and instead be working on a multi site, but I played some cards wrong (maybe some right) and currently I'm still doing my own thang.

I was not talking about that, I know some girls in SMC do their own stuff.... I never said u werent doing your thing. YOU and Wendy I know for a fact work your own sites and produce and direct most all of it. I have tons of respect for you girls! Two girls I look up to in this industry. Mandy I look up to you for doing things outside the box and pushing the boundaries. There are some girls who dont do their own stuff, even girls with Grooby, they have to rely on waiting for photographer and shooting stuff. I shoot all my own stuff unless I pay photographers to do high glam stuff for me.

[tsmandy]

I was not talking about that, I know some girls in SMC do their own stuff.... I never said u werent doing your thing. YOU and Wendy I know for a fact work your own sites and produce and direct most all of it. I have tons of respect for you girls! Two girls I look up to in this industry. Mandy I look up to you for doing things outside the box and pushing the boundaries. There are some girls who dont do their own stuff, even girls with Grooby, they have to rely on waiting for photographer and shooting stuff. I shoot all my own stuff unless I pay photographers to do high glam stuff for me.

Ok, clarification is good. You know the first BDSM/hardcore shoot I did for mandytgirl (my first site) was with a BBW TS? I think its great what you are doing Michelle. xo

[TSMichelleAustin]

Ok, clarification is good. You know the first BDSM/hardcore shoot I did for mandytgirl (my first site) was with a BBW TS? I think its great what you are doing Michelle. xo

No... wow thats awesome!!!! I had a client tell me other day that you have one of the best sites for solo girls out there. And I asked him why and he said because you dont conform to this industry! I hope that one day someone will say that about my work! Because I love doing crazy shit like u, maybe not as extreme as u in some aspects I still like doing things that are not the norm! Hell I am not the norm!

Thanks so much for supporting what I am doing!111

[Merkurie]

Surgery has to be a personal choice for the girl. I hope no one would have surgery for the simply for the sake of a porn career.

Some of the hottest TS and GG stars have not had implants and surgery and are smoking hot -- and successful. Not to mention if you are trying to please "the market" there will always be those who are never satisfied. And most of these plastic surgeons are hacks.

[NatashaLover]

It is safe to say that if anyone is disappointing, it certainly isn't Natasha. Wow Natasha! You are beautiful in every way!

Hey thanks for the compliment JP! I try my best and eat lots of rice with beans! :party:

[AmyDaly]

If you have a problem with her site, you could of posted it on her forums. I am sure she would of told you exactly why.

[TSMichelleAustin]

If you have a problem with her site, you could of posted it on her forums. I am sure she would of told you exactly why.

I agree with Amy on this. I know Domino and know if you would of contacted her she would of explained why. Domino is very approachable.

[AmyDaly]

Now that I go and look, it doesn't even look like you made an attempt to do that. And I doubt it would of been deleted because grooby admins hardly ever step foot in our forums and I doubt Domino knows how to delete them.

[Ineeda SM]

Surgery has to be a personal choice for the girl. I hope no one would have surgery for the simply for the sake of a porn career.

Some of the hottest TS and GG stars have not had implants and surgery and are smoking hot -- and successful. Not to mention if you are trying to please "the market" there will always be those who are never satisfied. And most of these plastic surgeons are hacks.

That is the worst reason to get oversized implants. They do it for the porn money, and not for their own happiness. And it happens way too often, and it is not necessary. You are right Merkurie. Many of the hottest girl are those with natural breast, or those with at least a conservitive breast enhancement that looks realistic.


Except when someone say she wants a surgery, any surgery almost every dude is screaming "NOOOOOOOOO", yet when a girl aint "passable" enough she gets shit thrown into her face.

Oh and today at the hormone docter, he said 70% of his patients has had breast augmentation because there isnt enough breast development as they all hoped for. (2nd biggest genderteam in our country)

Mayrah, the guy that throws shit into the girl's face for NOT looking passable, are assholes, plain and simple. They are macho dickheads that only want a perfect picture to jerk off to. Hell, I have seen hundreds of GG that are not passable. Yet they are usually nicer people than the real beauty GG. The same goes for a GG as well as a TS.

If a girl wants any kind of body enhancement by way of surgery, she should stop and think about why she is doing it. If her only goal is making money showing off her ass, then fine. Go ahead and mutalate yourself into to unrealism for the cash. But to get massive breast, bigger asses and who knows what else just to become more passable to people who don't give a shit about you, you are doing a stupid and unnecessary thing to yourself. There are some TS that pass more as a cross dressing man than a TS woman. And they are making big money in porn and escorting. I have seen guys here on HA go ga ga over them in threads.

There is an old saying that I truely believe in. And there are more people who also believe in it than would care to admit it. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". How many very ugly women are with guys who could do a lot better with looks? Tens of thousands I would say. Just look around at our society when you are out and about. But those guy see their ugly girls as beauties because they like and love them for who they really are.

The "PASSABLE" bull shit is in the eye of the beholder. If a girl wants to mutalate herself just for the cash, then it is her dumb choice. But if you are doing it for your own self esteme and happiness, think about who you are REALLY doing it for. Because you are already the beauty you project yourself to be. An extra fake pretty face will only make people like you for who you are NOT.

[Ben]

Why do you always got to hate on everything Franklin? Don't be such a hater. Both girls are living their lives in a way that suits them.

[/QUOTE] Both girls are living their lives in a way that suits them.[/QUOTE]

Nicely said Mandy. :iagree:

[Ben]

Bailey Jay Radio:

http://castroller.com/Podcasts/BaileyJayRadio

[Silcc69]

Bailey Jay Radio:

http://castroller.com/Podcasts/BaileyJayRadio

Franklin you could call in let your feelins be known.

[Mayrah]

That is the worst reason to get oversized implants. They do it for the porn money, and not for their own happiness. And it happens way too often, and it is not necessary. You are right Merkurie. Many of the hottest girl are those with natural breast, or those with at least a conservitive breast enhancement that looks realistic.



Mayrah, the guy that throws shit into the girl's face for NOT looking passable, are assholes, plain and simple. They are macho dickheads that only want a perfect picture to jerk off to. Hell, I have seen hundreds of GG that are not passable. Yet they are usually nicer people than the real beauty GG. The same goes for a GG as well as a TS.

If a girl wants any kind of body enhancement by way of surgery, she should stop and think about why she is doing it. If her only goal is making money showing off her ass, then fine. Go ahead and mutalate yourself into to unrealism for the cash. But to get massive breast, bigger asses and who knows what else just to become more passable to people who don't give a shit about you, you are doing a stupid and unnecessary thing to yourself. There are some TS that pass more as a cross dressing man than a TS woman. And they are making big money in porn and escorting. I have seen guys here on HA go ga ga over them in threads.

There is an old saying that I truely believe in. And there are more people who also believe in it than would care to admit it. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder". How many very ugly women are with guys who could do a lot better with looks? Tens of thousands I would say. Just look around at our society when you are out and about. But those guy see their ugly girls as beauties because they like and love them for who they really are.

The "PASSABLE" bull shit is in the eye of the beholder. If a girl wants to mutalate herself just for the cash, then it is her dumb choice. But if you are doing it for your own self esteme and happiness, think about who you are REALLY doing it for. Because you are already the beauty you project yourself to be. An extra fake pretty face will only make people like you for who you are NOT.

Some people like that look of what porn girls usually look like. Some people feel alot more happier in life now that they have altered the things they hated. Some people think it was a mistake to do all the surgerys they have had. Either way, everything you type regarding this subject is already done in prejudice so its pointless to argue with you about it anyway.

[sucka4chix]

Guys don't cry "nooooooo" because some non passable girl is having surgery. They cry "noooooo" because some perfectly fine girl is having surgery. Don't get it twisted. Many girls can't see the beautiful person that others see, so they keep changing shit. Guys who've seen this over and over know eventually they will fuck themselves up, like Michael Jackson. Some girls would do well to listen instead of getting upset. We ALL make decision from time to time that we would've been wiser to listen to the counsel of others.

[hippifried]

I don't understand this thread. The OP made no sense, & then it got confusing.

[BellaBellucci]

This shit again? :?

~BB~

[Suckerpunch]

I think Domino has done amazing with her look & the OP should give both girls a break

[Silcc69]

I think Domino has done amazing with her look & the OP should give both girls a break

Cept he is a paying member of there sites and they are delivering an inferior product so he has the right to complain.

[NatashaLover]

:2cent:cool::p:tongue:
I don't see the big situation with the thread, everyone's taste is different and no one is a 100 dollar bill to be like by everyone. I think he is just expressing his opinion on the girls and what he thinks, plus I haven't seen any of the two girls stopping by to complain so why everyone is so crazy about it if they aren't. I bet they are on vacation on a beautiful island having fun and enjoying the beautiful weather while everyone here is passing thru a storm. :)

[RallyCola]

no...bailey is clearly setting up house with her bf and in full control of the JO and gonzo BJ scenes she is putting out. her popularity remains high because she's gorgeous and has a great looking cock so people are hopeful for new material and thankful for what she does give us, even though we want more.

domino can be seen on cam, which obviously makes girls much more money than shooting for their sites.

the fact of the matter is that as steven, libby and i have said...the logistics and economics of solo sites means that ultimately, unless the girl is committed to frequent updates, they will have to slow down and eventually fans will complain, ala this thread.

[danoninho]

IMO they're very beautiful girls!!

[johnb85]

the reason is piracy ... piracy has almost destroyed the profits achieved for many solo girls .... myself as an example my site costs me a fair bit to run each month ... hardcore model fees, hosting, time spent editing, petrol, clothing etc

what is disheartening is when i pay out 1000dollars to shoot a scene... get it live on my site and within 48hours some cunt has plastered it all over a number of filesharing sites ....and its being downloaded like 25,000 times ,, that directly affects my profitibly as logic would say out of that number of downloads at least a few would have signed up to my website if they had not found my scene ripped ...

Okay, I'm not trying to open up a can of worms here, but this sounds dangerously close to statements made by the RIAA and MPAA... I would like to ask a couple of questions, if I may:

1) When you say your site costs you a 'fair bit' to run each month, around how much are you talking about? I'm a bit confused, because I know hosting even for a pretty heavy traffic site is not that expensive. It sounds like you may be getting ripped off if you're paying more than $20-$30 USD/month. Are you paying someone to do your maintenance?

2) Have you ever considered trying the Louis CK experiment? Spend the above mentioned $1,000 to make a decent scene, and make it available on your site to non-members for $5 a pop. It might make a ton of money or it might not, but it would be a huge indicator of why so many people are downloading ripped scenes (just wanting to steal period vs. not willing to pay membership prices)

In case you couldn't tell, I am a strong opponent to the SOPA/PIPA bills. I strongly believe that people will buy reasonably priced, quality content, and that goes for ALL forms of media (music, movies, porn, etc.) I remember the original Napster days, when people first realized that the CD's they were paying $20-$25 for in the stores could be duplicated for $.50.

Bottom line, piracy is like drugs in so much that people will always do it. It can't be stopped, so instead of wasting resources trying to stop it, why not instead focus on eliminating the CAUSES. (yeah, I know it's a rough analogy, but I hope at least some of you will understand)

[RallyCola]

Okay, I'm not trying to open up a can of worms here, but this sounds dangerously close to statements made by the RIAA and MPAA... I would like to ask a couple of questions, if I may:

1) When you say your site costs you a 'fair bit' to run each month, around how much are you talking about? I'm a bit confused, because I know hosting even for a pretty heavy traffic site is not that expensive. It sounds like you may be getting ripped off if you're paying more than $20-$30 USD/month. Are you paying someone to do your maintenance?

2) Have you ever considered trying the Louis CK experiment? Spend the above mentioned $1,000 to make a decent scene, and make it available on your site to non-members for $5 a pop. It might make a ton of money or it might not, but it would be a huge indicator of why so many people are downloading ripped scenes (just wanting to steal period vs. not willing to pay membership prices)

In case you couldn't tell, I am a strong opponent to the SOPA/PIPA bills. I strongly believe that people will buy reasonably priced, quality content, and that goes for ALL forms of media (music, movies, porn, etc.) I remember the original Napster days, when people first realized that the CD's they were paying $20-$25 for in the stores could be duplicated for $.50.

Bottom line, piracy is like drugs in so much that people will always do it. It can't be stopped, so instead of wasting resources trying to stop it, why not instead focus on eliminating the CAUSES. (yeah, I know it's a rough analogy, but I hope at least some of you will understand)

I'm not trying to speak for Libby here, but I'm fairly certain that she isn't just talking about hosting fees. Production costs have to pay for talent, outfits, sets in some cases, make up, editing, etc on top of hosting and bandwidth fees.

Now, your advise to try the lewis ck thingy doesn't make much sense. i think libby does update her site frequently (i'm not a member so i'm just guessing) but her site costs $25 a month. So if you get 4 new clips a month, that is $6.25 a clip...that's a fair price. that $1.25 isn't going to prevent someone from watching her stuff if they are a fan of hers.

i really think most people wrongly the piracy issue. i believe that there are people who will pirate just for the sake of doing it regardless of how much money they have or how big of a fan they are. this is a small percentage of the piracy market. then there are the true fans, the people who want to support an artist or star will do so. I would say this is the largest part of the market. the people in the middle who might buy a Louis CK clip for $5 but not $25 are the real problem or solution depending on your point of view. the occasional downloader who for the right price would buy. If these people would buy a libby clip for $5...the extra $1.25 per clip shouldn't matter because its such a small amount. I think this group of people is much smaller than producers want to admit to because they want to claim larger "losses". Because, while I admit that pirates ARE STEALING...they are not stealing real money...they are stealing potential earnings that you don't know if you would have otherwise had. Its that unknown...would all the kids that downloaded a Taylor Swift song have bought it from iTunes or not...the media and producers would have you believe they would have...and i submit that you don't know for sure.

so i will end this rant by saying...the OP started this thread about the quality and quantity of work 2 stars have been putting out. while the issue of piracy and profit definitely play a role in the business of running larger sites or solo sites, it is getting off topic from the OP's point....right or wrong...he was just voicing displeasure with the apparent lack of productivity from 2 girls.

[BellaBellucci]

Okay, I'm not trying to open up a can of worms here, but this sounds dangerously close to statements made by the RIAA and MPAA... I would like to ask a couple of questions, if I may:

1) When you say your site costs you a 'fair bit' to run each month, around how much are you talking about? I'm a bit confused, because I know hosting even for a pretty heavy traffic site is not that expensive. It sounds like you may be getting ripped off if you're paying more than $20-$30 USD/month. Are you paying someone to do your maintenance?

2) Have you ever considered trying the Louis CK experiment? Spend the above mentioned $1,000 to make a decent scene, and make it available on your site to non-members for $5 a pop. It might make a ton of money or it might not, but it would be a huge indicator of why so many people are downloading ripped scenes (just wanting to steal period vs. not willing to pay membership prices)

In case you couldn't tell, I am a strong opponent to the SOPA/PIPA bills. I strongly believe that people will buy reasonably priced, quality content, and that goes for ALL forms of media (music, movies, porn, etc.) I remember the original Napster days, when people first realized that the CD's they were paying $20-$25 for in the stores could be duplicated for $.50.

Bottom line, piracy is like drugs in so much that people will always do it. It can't be stopped, so instead of wasting resources trying to stop it, why not instead focus on eliminating the CAUSES. (yeah, I know it's a rough analogy, but I hope at least some of you will understand)

Preach it!

~BB~

[hippifried]

Cept he is a paying member of there sites and they are delivering an inferior product so he has the right to complain.
OIC. Just doesn't like boobs for his money. Why nor join a twink site?

[RallyCola]

OIC. Just doesn't like boobs for his money. Why nor join a twink site?

i don't think that's fair. i really think the OP hurt his argument by putting that statement in there...the boob jobs, whether you like them or not (i love them both) really have nothing to do with productivity...except for maybe an issue of timing in the OP's mind.

[TSPornFan]

i don't think that's fair. i really think the OP hurt his argument by putting that statement in there...the boob jobs, whether you like them or not (i love them both) really have nothing to do with productivity...except for maybe an issue of timing in the OP's mind.


OIC. Just doesn't like boobs for his money. Why nor join a twink site?

What are both of you talking about? I never complained about them getting boobs. I clearly said since they got their boobs, they have done little to nothing.

Shit, people on the internet can't read.

[TSPornFan]

If you have a problem with her site, you could of posted it on her forums. I am sure she would of told you exactly why.


I agree with Amy on this. I know Domino and know if you would of contacted her she would of explained why. Domino is very approachable.


Now that I go and look, it doesn't even look like you made an attempt to do that. And I doubt it would of been deleted because grooby admins hardly ever step foot in our forums and I doubt Domino knows how to delete them.

I actually some what mention it on her blog. She did not reply.

http://www.ts-dominopresley.com/blog/uncategorized/im-not-gone-just-on-a-much-needed-vacation.html

She was on vacation and did not tell members there would be no updates for a month. That's a month's membership fee with NO content.

To be honest I am a bit scare to say anything about Bailey on the SMC forums. Isa has done many of my hardcore video requests(Kimber James as a nurse, Jesse getting fucked, Sarina as a schoolgirl, etc.). I wouldn't want her to think that I am attacking her and SMC.

I also said this in past threads that Bailey has disabled members from making scene comments. A lot of members were complaining about her site and she didn't care about their complaints. She also removed her personal forums.

[AmyDaly]

I actually some what mention it on her blog. She did not reply.

http://www.ts-dominopresley.com/blog/uncategorized/im-not-gone-just-on-a-much-needed-vacation.html

She was on vacation and did not tell members there would be no updates for a month. That's a month's membership fee with NO content.

To be honest I am a bit scare to say anything about Bailey on the SMC forums. Isa has done many of my hardcore video requests(Kimber James as a nurse, Jesse getting fucked, Sarina as a schoolgirl, etc.). I wouldn't want her to think that I am attacking her and SMC.

I hear ya. Especially since you say that Bailey disabled the forum on her web site and comment section on her actual site? I think if you have a valid concern, you should be able to express it with out being criticized for it. I really think you should try a different approach at expressing your concerns though. You come off as hostile and insulting sometimes and you put people on the spot here, which puts people on the defensive right away. Try simply asking the question "Why have there been so few updates?". There could be a bunch of things causing it. Maybe she just doesn't feel like doing it or is dealing with a pain in the ass photographer or tech issues. But I don't know...after looking at her forums, it doesn't look like she even cares about replying to people. I don't know if I would bother either. If you honestly try to see whats up and get ignored, then by all means, they shouldn't be surprised when people come here to complain.

[RallyCola]

Hey guys, I am sure most of you are smart enough to tell who is the real me and who is not. However, for those that are not sure: This is my real blog, you’ll hear me make reference to it on my podcast “Bailey Jay Radio”. I do not partake in ANY other online activity as Bailey Jay. No Myspace, no Facebook, Deleted my twitter months ago and I’m not coming back, no photosharing sites, not vimeo, not xpeeps, nothing. This blog, my beauty blog, my website and my podcast are the only things I am apart of. If you have a relationship with me on any of those other sites then you are pouring your heart and soul out to a troll. I’m deleting my YouTube because I never use it anymore. So the only Bailey Jays on there will be fakes. I’d get them taken down but pretending to be me is all they have and I don’t want them to commit suicide. Just want my fans to be in the know, I’d hate to think you’re cybering with some 500 lb Korean guy that wishes he was me. Unless you’re into that. Because I am.

this is taken from her wordpress site.... http://baileyjay.wordpress.com/

as the character bailey jay, she has shut herself off from her fans so to speak and only puts out what she and her photographer boyfriend feel like. i mean read this character's professional site and it screams of the narcissism we have grown to expect from bailey. http://newyorkmatt.wordpress.com/

[slingblade]

What about these?

mmmm can I suck them baby?

[Mr. Sinister]

I don't think Bailey Jay has any interest in doing porn anymore other than some nude videos and photos. I believe she is in a committed relationship with her boyfriend/husband. I never seen her have sex with men on camera.

[LittleGuy]

These women dont care what any man thinks. They enjoy the money though.