Petition for accurate and fair election process

[Caleigh]

Hello,

In order for our votes to matter, they must be counted accurately. We need paper-ballot voting. Unfortunately, the Republican leadership has resisted every call for real reform from Democrats like Rush Holt and John Conyers. Well, we can`t wait any longer for the Republicans in Congress to act. The only way to protect our elections is to go right to the source by reaching out to town and county election officials. In most areas, these officials have the power to ensure fair and accurate voting systems even if our elected officials in Washington won`t act.

Today I`m joining thousands of other Americans and calling on our county election officials to demonstrate that their systems allow voters to verify their choices and officials to conduct recounts. Please join me and add your name to the call for accountability:

http://tools.democracyforamerica.com/petition/votingreform/index.php?refid=93243e7a4dbc1177

Both the Government Accountability Office and the bi-partisan Carter/Baker Commission have resoundingly condemned touchscreen electronic voting systems as lacking even the most basic security and reliability. In one test after another, electronic voting systems are failing at rates of 30% or higher. Both reports recommend paper-ballot voting as the gold standard. Please join me and call for accountability:

http://tools.democracyforamerica.com/petition/votingreform/index.php?refid=93243e7a4dbc1177

Thank you.

[chefmike]

Agreed, Caleigh...and we need to keep this thread alive. No more stolen elections! When I vote for the lesser of two evils, I want my vote to count. :wink:

[The American Nightmare]

I'd advise you to not waste your time.

>> Click here << (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.htm) fore more info.

[Trogdor]

Plus we need to get rid of the smegging electoral college.

Lot's of times candidates win or lose with the electoral vote, but would otherwise have won via the popular vote, which is the more accurate one.

In the electoral college, we vote so the electorals vote, which is a big pile of gorilla poop. :roll:

[speck]

Hello,

In order for our votes to matter, they must be counted accurately. We need paper-ballot voting. .

Your premise assumes that votes are currently not counted accurately(and therefore I presume George Bush becomes president).

I'll ignore for the moment that you are beating the crap out of an already dead and worm ridden corpse of a horse.

I will simply point out to you that you miss one little detail....

There is no proof whatsoever that there was irregularities in the presidential elections in 2000 and 2004.

As proof without much research, I will point out that both Janet Reno while still AG and the NAACP conducted inquiries into the Florida portion of the 2000 presidential elections and found no irregularities nor tainted ballots.
Funny how the mainstream news missed out on that one(Much like its also odd that no one mentions on the news that Slobodon Milosovic will never be convicted of any crimes due to lack of evidence nor will mainstream news mention that the intelligence we had as to genocide and mass graves in Kosovo was faulty and that more innocents were killed by US bombs than by any so called genocide).

I will also point out that many(most?) of the touch screen systems are being implemented in heavily democratic areas such as Los Angeles County. So maybe you would like to refocus the target of your accusations?

[chefmike]

interesting....

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_vote_fraud.html

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/11/con04482.html

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/columns/executive_tech/article.php/3495176

http://www.votefraud.org/

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm

[InHouston]

You wouldn't be pushing this petition around if John Kerry had won.

[chefmike]

You wouldn't be pushing this petition around if John Kerry had won.

You mean after Al Gore won, right?

[Kramer]

OMG, you liberals STILL complaining about the elections?!?!?! This is hilarious! Keep it coming!!! :lol: :lol:

DEM bums arent gonna win in 2008 either!!! :lol:

[chefmike]

:roll:

[chefmike]

:roll:

[speck]

interesting....

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_vote_fraud.html

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/11/con04482.html

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/columns/executive_tech/article.php/3495176

http://www.votefraud.org/

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00211.htm

Ok, I read through SOME of the stuff you posted. I have no ability to read through and refute every twist and turn on whatever marginal factual basis each little paragraph off ers.

I never knew that assertions lacking factual foundation qualified as proof of anything.

It really ought not be that difficult to prove that tens of thousands were illegally denied their right to vote in a presidential election. Yet there is no class action lawsuit(despite very deep government pockets), no media coverage of the issue(despite members of the media voting for John Kerry to the tune of 90%), and no factual investigation by civil rights groups(despite the fact that this issue would be a HUGE winner for them if it could be proven).

What you do have is unsubstantiated claims that the election was rigged. What you do have is both Janet Reno and NAACP stating that they could find no evidence that people were illegally denied the right to vote in 2000. What you do have is logic telling you that this would be a huge story were it true. What you do have is private organizations going in and counting the votes AFTER THE ELECTION AND RECOUNTS and stating that the counts were accurate.

I gotta add one more thing regarding the votefraud.org page. They make the assertion that owners of one of the computer systems for voting have bribed politicians and so forth. Factual evidence would be sooooooooo easy to present to me. Simply list court case numbers, articles citing investigations, and the results of those investigations. In the absence of such SIMPLE evidence, I have no choice but to discard the writings as those of some loon with a vendetta. IOW, I do not believe in the boogeyman simply because someone tells me the boogeyman is real.

In fact, the people who put forth this type of thing lack factual evidence. Therefore they must "imagine" a widespread conspiracy where assertions back up more assertions, rather than evidence.

[Felicia Katt]

Speck, provide a link, please? I couldn't find anything via Google to support your contentions.


Katts like to be teased with string, not facts :)

thanks

FK

[south ov da border]

they dumped ballots from '00 in the garbage across the street from my house in Miami. They polls were at an elementary school across the street from where they dumped them. Found a lotta ballots uncounted in church's too..