Race & Penis Size

[dafame]

This post is regarding an observation I've made from watching porn (particularly transsexual porn). My post rarely get a lot of responses and I assume that a large part of that is due to the fact that I don't post often, I'm not popular on the site, and usually my post are not accompanied with pictures of penises. Also perhaps because my post are boring and the topics are stupid or just not interesting to people. With that said I'm not expecting a rousing response to this post but a few comments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I'm wondering if anyone else has had this thought and if so if there are any facts to validate it.

As a black man it is common to hear that African Americans, or Africans and their descendants (where ever they may be on the globe) have the largest penises per capita. But it seems to me that just about ever girl that I've seen from Brazil in pictures or videos has a huge penis (girth wise in particular).

I'm not a geneticist but I know that there is a high proportion of African genetics in Brazil (in comparison to other South American countries) and I would assume that this might play some role. But I would also assume that the genes wouldn't be as strong or prevalent as they would be in say African Americans.

If this is the case then transsexual porn seems to suggest that the title of "the largest penises" that blacks have carried should actually belong to South America because I see far larger girls from Brazil on average than I do with the black girls from here in the United States that I've seen in pictures and videos.

I know that the culture of Brazil is one that focuses heavily on looks and physique. Could this pressure cause Brazilian producers to only choose the largest of models? Or is it that the "blacks are the largest" thing turns out to be just a myth?

[Silcc69]

IDk I just know that Suzanna Holmes dick is a beast.

[bte]

IDk I just know that Suzanna Holmes dick is a beast.

Suzanna Holmes is kinda beastly...ooooh snap!

[deadlyray]

Oh goodness...

Blacks in Brazil are the exact same as blacks in the US... and Puerto Rico, Cuba, ect... They're all mixed to some degree.

Not all Brazilians have big dicks, not all "African Americans" (what a stupid term) have big dicks, and not all Puero Rican's have big dicks. There are quite a few that have very large dicks though.

[dafame]

Oh goodness...

Blacks in Brazil are the exact same as blacks in the US... and Puerto Rico, Cuba, ect... They're all mixed to some degree.

Not all Brazilians have big dicks, not all "African Americans" (what a stupid term) have big dicks, and not all Puero Rican's have big dicks. There are quite a few that have very large dicks though.

Excellent point deadlyray! Wait what is your point? Who said that blacks in Brazil aren't the same as blacks in America? I was talking about Brazilians as a whole but did make mention that there are many "black Brazilians" but wasn't differentiating between black Brazilians vs non-black Brazilians.

And why is "African Americans" a stupid term? Is that your first time hearing a black person in America referring to themselves as African American?

[gitreycoo]

it might actually have to do with air pollution, nutrition, and diet. check out a book called the jungle. it's a bit outdated but may answer some questions where it outlines differences between city-grown and country-grown children and the way they grow.

[TsVanessa69]

Ones race has nothing to do with their penis size. some dudes ride on the coattails of myths and their ancestors legeneds. They claim because they are of a certain race, you "already knoww" they are past well hung and then ask me if I can "handle it". Yet they get here and mine is bigger.

[dafame]

Ones race has nothing to do with their penis size. some dudes ride on the coattails of myths and their ancestors legeneds. They claim because they are of a certain race, you "already knoww" they are past well hung and then ask me if I can "handle it". Yet they get here and mine is bigger.

Lol..

[hippifried]

Ones race has nothing to do with their penis size. some dudes ride on the coattails of myths and their ancestors legeneds. They claim because they are of a certain race, you "already knoww" they are past well hung and then ask me if I can "handle it". Yet they get here and mine is bigger.
So I guess they should be asking if they can handle it.

I don't know about all this race stuff. Seems to me that if your dick's too long, you're liable to trip over it & lose the race anyway...

[needsum]

So I guess they should be asking if they can handle it.

I don't know about all this race stuff. Seems to me that if your dick's too long, you're liable to trip over it & lose the race anyway...


hahahahahahahaha :D

[jerseyboy72]

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUQsozpZUSw

[FreddieGomez]

I'm half black and trust me the ladies aint complaining.

[Merkurie]

We should all come together
http://newhalfblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/neon1hiro034.jpg

[Icanthelpmyself]

I believe that black transsexual are just being reconize now because of size and their beauty. Not to say that we hold the record on large penises it's just look more sexy and beautiful on blacks>

[deadlyray]

Excellent point deadlyray! Wait what is your point? Who said that blacks in Brazil aren't the same as blacks in America? I was talking about Brazilians as a whole but did make mention that there are many "black Brazilians" but wasn't differentiating between black Brazilians vs non-black Brazilians.

And why is "African Americans" a stupid term? Is that your first time hearing a black person in America referring to themselves as African American?

"high proportion of African genetics in Brazil (in comparison to other South American countries) and I would assume that this might play some role. But I would also assume that the genes wouldn't be as strong or prevalent as they would be in say African Americans."

Maybe I should have said "African American" is an ignorant term (Look up Ivan Van Sertima). Later.

[Gambino]

I was at a gangbang once, and their was a black dude their, so I chilled out to wait till he got started to see if the "tales" we're true, they weren't, made me laugh

[loren]

Or is it that the "blacks are the largest" thing turns out to be just a myth?
I had met up with this one black guy. We talked then started kissing. Then he stood up and lowered his pants to reveal his rock hard 4" cock. I just laughed at him and pushed him out of the door. So much for stereotypes:shrug.

On another occasion, I almost passed out when a black guy shoved his 13" cock:whoa up my ass. I just wish he would've asked first.

[Silcc69]

Where is Natina at with the spam gun?

[SUPPLY42]

What is the old saying? More then a mouthful is a waste? In todays ecconomy, we must all learn to conserve and share with others our excesses.

[francisfkudrow]

Around my area a lot of white GGs date exclusively black men, because they swear up and down that they have bigger dicks (even though a lot of them have probably never seen a white dick)

As a reasonably well hung white guy, it gets discouraging because these women automatically assume I'm hung like a mouse because of the color of my skin. Short of whipping it out, I don't know what can be done to change this attitude.

[nonnonnon]

bike shorts haha

[natina]

PENIS SIZE FACTS


http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/penissize.htm


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=53012




WORLD LARGEST PENIS IS AN AFRICAN MAN
World's Biggest Penis (15 inches)


World's Biggest Penis (15 inches) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B2pcBVsLMM)


there is an African tribe with very large penises

there are also an African tribe ,European and an Australian tribe with very large buttocks


Steatopygia (pronounced /stiːˌætɵˈpɪdʒiə/ (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English),[1] (http://content.answers.com/main/content/ahd4/pron/S0728900.wav) Greek (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Greek_language): στεατοπυγία) is a high degree of fat (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Adipose_fat) accumulation in and around the buttocks (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Buttock). The deposit of fat is not confined to the gluteal (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Gluteal) regions, but extends to the outside and front of the thighs (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Thigh), forming a thick layer reaching sometimes to the knee (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Knee).

there is an African tribe with very large penises

there are also an African tribe ,European and an Australian tribe with very large buttocks


Steatopygia (pronounced /stiːˌætɵˈpɪdʒiə/ (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English),[1] (http://content.answers.com/main/content/ahd4/pron/S0728900.wav) Greek (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Greek_language): στεατοπυγία) is a high degree of fat (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Adipose_fat) accumulation in and around the buttocks (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Buttock). The deposit of fat is not confined to the gluteal (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Gluteal) regions, but extends to the outside and front of the thighs (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Thigh), forming a thick layer reaching sometimes to the knee (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Knee).


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=56450



Penis size and enlargement surgery

Written by Dr John Dean (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/whoisnd.htm), specialist in sexual medicine

Almost all men experience anxiety about the size or appearance of their penis at some time. For most men, these feelings will pass but, for others, they can be persistent and disabling.
A man's concern about his penis can lead to avoidance of sexual relationships, and even of sporting and other activities where other men might see him naked. Such men are not only embarrassed by the apparent smallness of their penis, but frequently also feel ashamed and silly about their anxiety, too.
This article includes information about the size of a so-called 'normal penis', about the abnormally small penis, and about treatment.
Problems with judging penis size

Men generally fall into two groups regarding their penis size and appearance. Some men have a short, fat, rather elastic penis when flaccid that stretches and expands very considerably during erection.
Others have a long, impressive-looking flaccid penis that barely changes in size when erect, and simply becomes more rigid. Men in the first group who see men from the second group naked in the showers incorrectly think that they have an abnormally small penis.
Both are normal, just different.
Obesity (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health_advice/facts/obesity.htm) and very thick growth of pubic hair may make the penis appear smaller. Obese men develop a pad of fat in the pubic area and the flaccid penis becomes buried in it. Weight reduction will improve appearance, as will neatly trimming excessive pubic hair.
Very obese men might not be able to see their penis at all, because of their large and pendulous abdomen.
Men should also remember that their penis will always look shorter when they look down at it, compared with looking straight at their penis in a mirror or across the changing room at another man's penis. This is a simple optical illusion.
What is a normal penis?

When measuring penis size, it is important to distinguish between the respective sizes of the flaccid, stretched flaccid and erect penis.
Many men are concerned about the apparent size of their flaccid ('soft') penis, and worry that other men will laugh at them in the shower, or that sexual partners will ridicule them when they see them naked.
The flaccid penis varies considerably in size, ranging from less than 5cm to over 10cm (2 to 5 inches). The size of the flaccid penis does not determine the size of the erect penis.



Research1 suggests that the average size, measured from the pubic skin (precisely where the penis joins the body) to the opening (urinary orifice) at the tip, is about:

unstretched, flaccid length 8.8cm (3.9 inches)
stretched (pulled firmly out from the body), flaccid length 12.4cm (4.8 inches).
Fewer men seek medical advice about the length of their erect penis. Masters and Johnson (1966) found that the size of the erect penis ranges from 12.5 to 17.5cm (5 to 7 inches). They also demonstrated that men with a smaller flaccid penis had a proportionally greater increase in size on erection. The average size of the erect penis, measured in the same way as above, is around 12.9cm (5.2 inches).
What is an abnormally small penis?

No widely accepted definition of what is an abnormally small penis exists, but guidelines for selection of men for penis enlargement (penile augmentation surgery) recommend that only those with a flaccid length of less than 4cm (1.6 inches) or erect length of less than 7.5cm (3 inches) should be considered for surgery.
Does penis size matter?

The answer to this question rather depends upon your perspective. If you believe that you have a small penis, it may matter very much to you, however unimportant the issue might seem to others.
Some men become quite obsessed by the size of their penis and will consider almost anything, including surgery, to enlarge it. Most of these men will have a penis that falls within the suggested normal size range, but that does not always make them feel normal or better about themselves. Both they, and their doctor, should recognise that this is primarily a psychological problem, connected to physical and sexual self-image, rather than a physical handicap.
Researchers have repeatedly shown that penis size does not affect partner satisfaction during sexual intercourse. Some men born with a severely shortened and malformed penis, even less than 5cm (2 inches) long when erect, enjoy very satisfactory sex with their partners.
Women are much more likely to be bemused by men's anxieties surrounding penis size, than amused by its actual size.
Penis enlargement treatments




Treatments aimed at increasing penile length or girth can be divided into two groups:

non-surgical treatments
surgical treatments.
Non-surgical treatment

From ancient times, men have tried a wide variety of treatments to enlarge the penis. Because of the sensitive nature of the problem, and because of the surrounding shame and embarrassment, concerned men are very vulnerable to exploitation by the unscrupulous.
While most doctors and other healthcare professionals act in a highly ethical manner, a few individuals will sell remedies and even perform surgery that they know has no evidence of long-term benefit. Some of them have been barred from practice as a consequence of their unethical behaviour. Others are still in practice, waiting to exploit the unsuspecting by relying on the fact that they are likely to be too embarrassed to complain to the authorities about an unsatisfactory outcome.



A glance though the small ads in men's magazines will reveal the following 'treatments' on offer:

vacuum 'developers'
weights that attach to the penis to stretch it
magnetic or electrical devices to stimulate penis growth
'hormone' therapy, sometimes containing testosterone or related sex hormones (steroids)
remedies that contain assorted herbs from around the world.
Good-quality research evidence has not been published showing that any of these treatments produce a sustained increase in penis size.
Vacuum devices and weights may produce very small, short-term increases in size, simply because the penis is elastic and can be stretched. However, like an elastic band, it snaps back with time.
More worrying are private clinics that advertise penile augmentation (enlargement) procedures, and make extravagant and misleading claims about their results. Surgery can be of benefit to some men, but certainly not all of them.
Current cosmetic surgical procedures are largely unproven by research, unreliable in their benefits, and may carry the risk of serious complications. Urologists generally consider this type of surgery to be still experimental in nature, and not a standard procedure.2 Seek advice from a trusted doctor, such as your GP or local urologist, about the nature and standards of the clinic before asking for a consultation.

Surgical treatment

Since 1971, penile-lengthening surgery has been offered to men with severe shortening due to congenital abnormalities (abnormalities present from birth), surgery (for penile cancer or Peyronie's disease) or trauma (accidental or deliberate amputation).
Cosmetic surgery to increase penile girth, or thickness, began in the USA in the late 1980s.
Techniques for cosmetic lengthening were described in 1990. More than 10,000 men have had such surgery, but reliable information about results and complications have not been published in a peer-reviewed journal (a journal where the quality and content of the research is checked by independent experts). Given the number of operations performed, this fact is both astounding and worrying.
Penile lengthening: the most common technique to lengthen the penis is to cut its suspensory ligament then perform plastic surgery to provide additional skin to cover its new length. The results are difficult to judge, as surgeons have not collected data in a systematic manner. The results of the only reliable study indicate that dividing the suspensory ligament alone results in an average increase of 0.5cm (around 0.25in) in length, while skin advancement increases the length gain to 1.6cm (around 0.75in). These figures do not compare well with the claims made by some clinics. Some people, undoubtedly, do better than average, while others do worse.
The suspensory ligament does have a role, in that it helps keep the penis pointing upwards during erection. After it has been divided, that support is no longer present. After surgery, some men find that they have gained a small increase in flaccid length, but the erect penis is about the same size and now points towards the floor!



Increasing penile girth (thickness): this treatment may be performed with a lengthening procedure or on its own. There are two techniques in common use:

injection of liposuctioned fat, from the abdominal wall or thighs, into the dartos fascia, under the skin of the penile shaft.
placing grafts of dermis (a layer of tissue from under the skin surface that is well supplied with blood vessels) and fat from the groin or buttock area within the penile shaft.
The results following injection of liposuctioned fat can be deeply disappointing. Up to 90 per cent of the fat can disappear within a year. Grafts seem to do rather better, but there is no reliable published data on long-term results.

Complications following surgery

At least one person has died from bleeding after augmentation surgery. Apart from the risks of infection and bleeding, specific complications exist for each procedure.
Lengthening procedures


Scrotalisation of the penis, in which the penis appears to arise from the scrotum instead of the abdominal wall.
'Dog-ears' at each end of the operation scar.
Sloughing of the skin used to increase penile length (the skin has a poor blood supply and therefore dies, leaving a deep, ulcerated area).
Girth-increasing procedures


Loss of girth due to fat reabsorption.
Nodule formation, if the implanted fat does not disappear uniformly. The penis can be left with a deformed appearance, with irregular fatty lumps all over it.
Conclusions

Some men are severely anxious about their penis size and are prevented from enjoying a normal life as a result.
Men who are born with a small penis may benefit from surgical treatment, but the results are unpredictable. Without surgery, many will still be able to enjoy very satisfactory sexual relationships despite the small size of their penis.
Men that are dissatisfied with the appearance of their penis should think very carefully before requesting cosmetic surgery, especially if the size falls within the normal range.
A better option may be to seek the advice of a sexual and relationship therapist (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/sextherapy.htm), who might be able to offer help and advice.
Using surgery to treat a psychological problem is fraught with risks. If surgery is the only way in which a man can regain his self-esteem and improve his self-image, they should seek advice from an experienced surgeon working in a reputable clinic.
Men should ask very carefully about the procedures that are offered, the surgeon's results and any possible complications. They would also be wise to ask another trusted medical adviser for their view.
Other people also read:


Penis size (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/penissize.htm): find out what is the 'normal size for an erect and non-erect penis.
The penis (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/erectiledysfunction/penis.htm): how it works.
Penile prostheses (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/penisprosthesis.htm): artifical supports for the penis.
Premature ejaculation (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/prematureejaculation.htm): one of the most common sexual problems.
Spots on the penis (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sexandrelationships/spotsonpenis.htm): what could they be?
References

1. Wessells H, Lue TF, McAninch JW. Penile length in the flaccid and erect states: guidelines for augmentation. Journal of Urology. 156(3):995-7, 1996 Sep.
2. Carson C, Kirby R, Goldstein I. Textbook of Erectile Dysfunction. p513. Isis Medical Media, Oxford 1999.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/penissize.htm

Where is Natina at with the spam gun?

[NYBURBS]

Where is Natina at with the spam gun?

I guess Tim Wise hasn't given a presentation yet on the correlation between white privilege and big black dicks. I'm sure it's coming though.

[MNccklvr]

no doubt black dick is the biggest

[natina]

The big dicks or coming!




penis size facts




http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/penissize.htm


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=53012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B2pcBVsLMM




world largest penis is an african man
world's biggest penis (15 inches)


world's biggest penis (15 inches) - youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b2pcbvslmm)


there is an african tribe with very large penises

there are also an african tribe ,european and an australian tribe with very large buttocks


steatopygia (pronounced /stiːˌætɵˈpɪdʒiə/ (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/wikipedia:ipa_for_english),[1] (http://content.answers.com/main/content/ahd4/pron/s0728900.wav) greek (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/greek_language): στεατοπυγία) is a high degree of fat (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/adipose_fat) accumulation in and around the buttocks (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/buttock). The deposit of fat is not confined to the gluteal (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/gluteal) regions, but extends to the outside and front of the thighs (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/thigh), forming a thick layer reaching sometimes to the knee (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/knee).

there is an african tribe with very large penises

there are also an african tribe ,european and an australian tribe with very large buttocks


steatopygia (pronounced /stiːˌætɵˈpɪdʒiə/ (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/wikipedia:ipa_for_english),[1] (http://content.answers.com/main/content/ahd4/pron/s0728900.wav) greek (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/greek_language): στεατοπυγία) is a high degree of fat (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/adipose_fat) accumulation in and around the buttocks (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/buttock). The deposit of fat is not confined to the gluteal (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/gluteal) regions, but extends to the outside and front of the thighs (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/thigh), forming a thick layer reaching sometimes to the knee (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/knee).


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=56450



penis size and enlargement surgery

written by dr john dean (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/whoisnd.htm), specialist in sexual medicine

almost all men experience anxiety about the size or appearance of their penis at some time. For most men, these feelings will pass but, for others, they can be persistent and disabling.
A man's concern about his penis can lead to avoidance of sexual relationships, and even of sporting and other activities where other men might see him naked. Such men are not only embarrassed by the apparent smallness of their penis, but frequently also feel ashamed and silly about their anxiety, too.
This article includes information about the size of a so-called 'normal penis', about the abnormally small penis, and about treatment.
problems with judging penis size

men generally fall into two groups regarding their penis size and appearance. Some men have a short, fat, rather elastic penis when flaccid that stretches and expands very considerably during erection.
Others have a long, impressive-looking flaccid penis that barely changes in size when erect, and simply becomes more rigid. Men in the first group who see men from the second group naked in the showers incorrectly think that they have an abnormally small penis.
Both are normal, just different.
obesity (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health_advice/facts/obesity.htm) and very thick growth of pubic hair may make the penis appear smaller. Obese men develop a pad of fat in the pubic area and the flaccid penis becomes buried in it. Weight reduction will improve appearance, as will neatly trimming excessive pubic hair.
Very obese men might not be able to see their penis at all, because of their large and pendulous abdomen.
Men should also remember that their penis will always look shorter when they look down at it, compared with looking straight at their penis in a mirror or across the changing room at another man's penis. This is a simple optical illusion.
what is a normal penis?

when measuring penis size, it is important to distinguish between the respective sizes of the flaccid, stretched flaccid and erect penis.
Many men are concerned about the apparent size of their flaccid ('soft') penis, and worry that other men will laugh at them in the shower, or that sexual partners will ridicule them when they see them naked.
The flaccid penis varies considerably in size, ranging from less than 5cm to over 10cm (2 to 5 inches). The size of the flaccid penis does not determine the size of the erect penis.





Research1 suggests that the average size, measured from the pubic skin (precisely where the penis joins the body) to the opening (urinary orifice) at the tip, is about:

unstretched, flaccid length 8.8cm (3.9 inches)
stretched (pulled firmly out from the body), flaccid length 12.4cm (4.8 inches).
fewer men seek medical advice about the length of their erect penis. Masters and johnson (1966) found that the size of the erect penis ranges from 12.5 to 17.5cm (5 to 7 inches). They also demonstrated that men with a smaller flaccid penis had a proportionally greater increase in size on erection. The average size of the erect penis, measured in the same way as above, is around 12.9cm (5.2 inches).
what is an abnormally small penis?

no widely accepted definition of what is an abnormally small penis exists, but guidelines for selection of men for penis enlargement (penile augmentation surgery) recommend that only those with a flaccid length of less than 4cm (1.6 inches) or erect length of less than 7.5cm (3 inches) should be considered for surgery.
does penis size matter?

the answer to this question rather depends upon your perspective. If you believe that you have a small penis, it may matter very much to you, however unimportant the issue might seem to others.
Some men become quite obsessed by the size of their penis and will consider almost anything, including surgery, to enlarge it. Most of these men will have a penis that falls within the suggested normal size range, but that does not always make them feel normal or better about themselves. Both they, and their doctor, should recognise that this is primarily a psychological problem, connected to physical and sexual self-image, rather than a physical handicap.
Researchers have repeatedly shown that penis size does not affect partner satisfaction during sexual intercourse. Some men born with a severely shortened and malformed penis, even less than 5cm (2 inches) long when erect, enjoy very satisfactory sex with their partners.
Women are much more likely to be bemused by men's anxieties surrounding penis size, than amused by its actual size.
penis enlargement treatments






treatments aimed at increasing penile length or girth can be divided into two groups:

non-surgical treatments
surgical treatments.
non-surgical treatment

from ancient times, men have tried a wide variety of treatments to enlarge the penis. Because of the sensitive nature of the problem, and because of the surrounding shame and embarrassment, concerned men are very vulnerable to exploitation by the unscrupulous.
While most doctors and other healthcare professionals act in a highly ethical manner, a few individuals will sell remedies and even perform surgery that they know has no evidence of long-term benefit. Some of them have been barred from practice as a consequence of their unethical behaviour. Others are still in practice, waiting to exploit the unsuspecting by relying on the fact that they are likely to be too embarrassed to complain to the authorities about an unsatisfactory outcome.





A glance though the small ads in men's magazines will reveal the following 'treatments' on offer:

vacuum 'developers'
weights that attach to the penis to stretch it
magnetic or electrical devices to stimulate penis growth
'hormone' therapy, sometimes containing testosterone or related sex hormones (steroids)
remedies that contain assorted herbs from around the world.
good-quality research evidence has not been published showing that any of these treatments produce a sustained increase in penis size.
Vacuum devices and weights may produce very small, short-term increases in size, simply because the penis is elastic and can be stretched. However, like an elastic band, it snaps back with time.
More worrying are private clinics that advertise penile augmentation (enlargement) procedures, and make extravagant and misleading claims about their results. Surgery can be of benefit to some men, but certainly not all of them.
Current cosmetic surgical procedures are largely unproven by research, unreliable in their benefits, and may carry the risk of serious complications. Urologists generally consider this type of surgery to be still experimental in nature, and not a standard procedure.2 seek advice from a trusted doctor, such as your gp or local urologist, about the nature and standards of the clinic before asking for a consultation.

surgical treatment

since 1971, penile-lengthening surgery has been offered to men with severe shortening due to congenital abnormalities (abnormalities present from birth), surgery (for penile cancer or peyronie's disease) or trauma (accidental or deliberate amputation).
Cosmetic surgery to increase penile girth, or thickness, began in the usa in the late 1980s.
Techniques for cosmetic lengthening were described in 1990. More than 10,000 men have had such surgery, but reliable information about results and complications have not been published in a peer-reviewed journal (a journal where the quality and content of the research is checked by independent experts). Given the number of operations performed, this fact is both astounding and worrying.
penile lengthening: The most common technique to lengthen the penis is to cut its suspensory ligament then perform plastic surgery to provide additional skin to cover its new length. The results are difficult to judge, as surgeons have not collected data in a systematic manner. The results of the only reliable study indicate that dividing the suspensory ligament alone results in an average increase of 0.5cm (around 0.25in) in length, while skin advancement increases the length gain to 1.6cm (around 0.75in). These figures do not compare well with the claims made by some clinics. Some people, undoubtedly, do better than average, while others do worse.
The suspensory ligament does have a role, in that it helps keep the penis pointing upwards during erection. After it has been divided, that support is no longer present. After surgery, some men find that they have gained a small increase in flaccid length, but the erect penis is about the same size and now points towards the floor!





increasing penile girth (thickness): This treatment may be performed with a lengthening procedure or on its own. There are two techniques in common use:

injection of liposuctioned fat, from the abdominal wall or thighs, into the dartos fascia, under the skin of the penile shaft.
placing grafts of dermis (a layer of tissue from under the skin surface that is well supplied with blood vessels) and fat from the groin or buttock area within the penile shaft.
the results following injection of liposuctioned fat can be deeply disappointing. Up to 90 per cent of the fat can disappear within a year. Grafts seem to do rather better, but there is no reliable published data on long-term results.

complications following surgery

at least one person has died from bleeding after augmentation surgery. Apart from the risks of infection and bleeding, specific complications exist for each procedure.
lengthening procedures


scrotalisation of the penis, in which the penis appears to arise from the scrotum instead of the abdominal wall.
'dog-ears' at each end of the operation scar.
sloughing of the skin used to increase penile length (the skin has a poor blood supply and therefore dies, leaving a deep, ulcerated area).
girth-increasing procedures


loss of girth due to fat reabsorption.
nodule formation, if the implanted fat does not disappear uniformly. The penis can be left with a deformed appearance, with irregular fatty lumps all over it.
conclusions

some men are severely anxious about their penis size and are prevented from enjoying a normal life as a result.
Men who are born with a small penis may benefit from surgical treatment, but the results are unpredictable. Without surgery, many will still be able to enjoy very satisfactory sexual relationships despite the small size of their penis.
Men that are dissatisfied with the appearance of their penis should think very carefully before requesting cosmetic surgery, especially if the size falls within the normal range.
A better option may be to seek the advice of a sexual and relationship therapist (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/sextherapy.htm), who might be able to offer help and advice.
Using surgery to treat a psychological problem is fraught with risks. If surgery is the only way in which a man can regain his self-esteem and improve his self-image, they should seek advice from an experienced surgeon working in a reputable clinic.
Men should ask very carefully about the procedures that are offered, the surgeon's results and any possible complications. They would also be wise to ask another trusted medical adviser for their view.
other people also read:


penis size (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/penissize.htm): Find out what is the 'normal size for an erect and non-erect penis.
the penis (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/erectiledysfunction/penis.htm): How it works.
penile prostheses (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/penisprosthesis.htm): Artifical supports for the penis.
premature ejaculation (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relationships/facts/prematureejaculation.htm): One of the most common sexual problems.
spots on the penis (http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sexandrelationships/spotsonpenis.htm): What could they be?
references

1. Wessells h, lue tf, mcaninch jw. Penile length in the flaccid and erect states: Guidelines for augmentation. Journal of urology. 156(3):995-7, 1996 sep.
2. Carson c, kirby r, goldstein i. Textbook of erectile dysfunction. P513. Isis medical media, oxford 1999.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/menshealth/facts/penissize.htm

[Ben]

Or is it that the "blacks are the largest" thing turns out to be just a myth?

I've read that it's white males, then blacks, then Asians. Who knows. She -- below -- elucidates:

Do Black MEN HAVE BIG D*CKS! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKEGMwEbTeU)

[frankc]

One of the largest ethnic groups in Brazil are the Italians, apx 24,000,000..Italians also heavily populate Argentina apx 21,000,000 and of course USA Apx 19,000,000...soooooo maybe some of those big fat dicks are due to Italian heritage!!! and not just to Africans... LOL!!!..... No race has and exculsive on big dicks....

[lifeisfiction]

I had friend so hung up on size that would tell me everyday about how his gf said he was big enough. I find the key to having memorable sex is making a women have orgasms and if I can produce multiple orgasms you have done your job. Its not easy, depending on the woman, but you give that earth shattering orgasm the world is yours. Also, people don't realize a big dick looks great on screen, but not in real life. I find that my girth can sometimes be a problem so anal sex can be simply putting it, alright, plain and unstatisfying.

[Cecil Rhodes]

...... And why is "African Americans" a stupid term? Is that your first time hearing a black person in America referring to themselves as African American?

Because I am African and when i list that on a form that asks what i am i get alot of shit about it . One of the stupidest things i ever heard was a few years ago on a local news program that Nelson Mandela was the 1st African-American President of South Africa .

As far as your Penis Size question ....... It is a Myth .That is like mentioning all Asians ( Orientals ) have Tiny Dicks . I'm sure that all of them do because i have never seen a Well Hung Ladyboy . ...... J/K

[Cecil Rhodes]

One of the largest ethnic groups in Brazil are the Italians, apx 24,000,000..Italians also heavily populate Argentina apx 21,000,000 and of course USA Apx 19,000,000...soooooo maybe some of those big fat dicks are due to Italian heritage!!! and not just to Africans... LOL!!!..... No race has and exculsive on big dicks....

You forgot the Germans .....

Don't forget there is alot of TS Porn made in Argentina . Argentina is lacking in both a Black & Mestizo population . As a result this thread would be moot .

[celestefan1]

I too have wondered why the majority of brazilian ts women have such large penises.

[txsam]

"I'm half black and trust me the ladies aint complaining."

Same here:D

"...Short of whipping it out, I don't know what can be done to change this attitude."

Then do like Devo says and "Whip it!"

"...Also, people don't realize a big dick looks great on screen, but not in real life. I find that my girth can sometimes be a problem so anal sex can be simply putting it, alright, plain and unstatisfying."

I know, sometimes a big dick can really be a pain in the ass! (Or pain in the neck;))

And look everybody, nowadays with so many enlargement options who knows how big anyone's dick really is anymore?? I for one, being nicely endowed (if I do say so myself :p) find these "willy-roids" annoying. Kinda feels like:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkNAg0486OIpA6SbiFH5nXPF_U-ubjdlNz4jkYdxjlIZE39-QP

vs:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS66VuQKkIoDQJGanTDH17Nj08jA0i-bekgb33oHgaTP78uhveL

:wiggle::wiggle:

[Token Williams-Black]

I actually LIKE the Kia...it's not a bad car. It's still no Jaguar though.

[txsam]

...Eeeexactly:D

btw, idk if anyone remember to rep Portugal in the discussion of Brasil and Argentina?.. ya know, about how they got everything east of, while Spain got everything west of, like the EST timezone line (location approximate)?

[Jericho]

I've seen enough cock (of all colours) to that generalization is bollocks! :shrug

[Prospero]

I think Martians have the biggest cocks.

[terrygrooby]

Many thai girls have big cocks too ;)

[Mr. Sinister]

The biggest cocks I have seen in person are with African-American transsexuals. Their cocks are thick and long and get hard easily.

It is true what they say that the black brothas and ts sistas are packing large cocks!

[giovanni_hotel]

Is Jasmine Thai??

http://fhg.ladyboysfuckedbareback.com/pic/content/jasmine3/04.jpg

[LibertyHarkness]

i have a cunning plan to stop the blackmen of the world from having the worlds biggest cocks and taking all our women :) mwuahahahaha

Anaconda Malt Liquor Gives You Ooooo!!! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgpdoGKDTqM)

black dynamite - little dick - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THEv9kSVJw0)


:)

[lifeisfiction]

I need to hang with Libby, I don't think you can have a dull moment with her.

[TrannyMafia]

Oh goodness...

Blacks in Brazil are the exact same as blacks in the US... and Puerto Rico, Cuba, ect... They're all mixed to some degree.

Not all Brazilians have big dicks, not all "African Americans" (what a stupid term) have big dicks, and not all Puero Rican's have big dicks. There are quite a few that have very large dicks though.

and i agree with you 100%

http://picrpicr.com/image-55E1_4FC67DE4.jpg (http://picrpicr.com/share-55E1_4FC67DE4.html)
http://picrpicr.com/image-ECBD_4FC67DE4.jpg (http://picrpicr.com/share-ECBD_4FC67DE4.html)
http://picrpicr.com/image-7D33_4FC67DE4.jpg (http://picrpicr.com/share-7D33_4FC67DE4.html)

[GrimFusion]

I dig how most of this post has been about dispelling race versus dick size correlation and quite a few people have stepped up to say that no race has an advantage or disadvantage.


I've seen enough cock (of all colours) to that generalization is bollocks! :shrug

As far as your Penis Size question ....... It is a Myth .That is like mentioning all Asians ( Orientals ) have Tiny Dicks . I'm sure that all of them do because i have never seen a Well Hung Ladyboy . ...... J/K
Ones race has nothing to do with their penis size. some dudes ride on the coattails of myths and their ancestors legeneds. They claim because they are of a certain race, you "already knoww" they are past well hung and then ask me if I can "handle it". Yet they get here and mine is bigger.

We're talking about averages here. On average, black dudes do have larger dicks than white guys and Asian men. ON AVERAGE. That doesn't mean you'll never encounter a black guy with a thimble-dick or an Asian with an eleven inch cock, but it does mean that if you exclusively mess with black guys, you're going to get big dick more often.


I was at a gangbang once, and their was a black dude their(there) (http://www.wikihow.com/Use-There,-Their-and-They're), so I chilled out to wait 'till he got started to see if the "tales" we're true, they weren't, made me laugh
I had met up with this one black guy. We talked then started kissing. Then he stood up and lowered his pants to reveal his rock hard 4" cock. I just laughed at him and pushed him out of the door. So much for stereotypes:shrug.

Exceptions are a bitch, but if black men always had big dicks, no chick would be wasting time fucking around with us crackers. Thank god for exceptions. I'm also thankful for the never-ending list of guys who aren't content with being average and feel the need to talk up their dick size like they've got a third arm between their legs. Once a chick figures it all out, all she's looking for is a dude that doesn't care about that mess. My turn.


I had friend so hung up on size that would tell me everyday about how his gf said he was big enough. I find the key to having memorable sex is making a women have orgasms and if I can produce multiple orgasms you have done your job. Its not easy, depending on the woman, but you give that earth shattering orgasm the world is yours.

I hate to sum this up with the old "It's not about size; it's how you work it", but it's totally true. There are plenty of men with huge dicks that just don't know how to use them. There are guys who pack four-inchers who can rock a vagina 'til a bitch walks knock-kneed. Sex is just a big game of roulette, so despite this-or-that race having an advantage, size doesn't translate to amazing sex. It just doesn't.

[lifeisfiction]

Thanks Grim for cutting to the point of my statement. I think people get caught with larger is better. It can be visually appealing, doesn't mean women are going to be screaming in bed. I think if men can understand the value of an orgasm, men would be more focus on that then what is their pants.

[Cecil Rhodes]

I think Bollocks is Bull Shit

[samantha999]

Sometimes the cock is so big and then it won't get hard. That seems to happen alot.

[south ov da border]

I'm black and don't fit into any of the stereotypes...

[south ov da border]

that whole how you work it thing is true. I can attest to making some ladies quiver and quit. Sadly I always was insecure about size and all, but that's because of where I grew up- in the "hood" where stereotypes rule. Once you realize that the majority of sex is mental, then that's where the fun starts and usually the size thing goes out of the window...

[lifeisfiction]

that whole how you work it thing is true. I can attest to making some ladies quiver and quit. Sadly I always was insecure about size and all, but that's because of where I grew up- in the "hood" where stereotypes rule. Once you realize that the majority of sex is mental, then that's where the fun starts and usually the size thing goes out of the window...

Every guy questions their size, I have 6 inch girth with above average length and I thought for years that I was average to small. A lot of me don't see a lot other men penises erect. Then I thought wow I have something working in my pants, till a women told me plain if I didn't make her cum she would classify me bad in bed. That changed my perspective a lot.

[Token Williams-Black]

I'm an average-sized brutha, but I know how to use what I've got. No complaints yet...

[djcolopi]

I believe its people who live in warmer climates have larger dicks, I read this some where in a health magazine. Africa, the Middle East, and the Mediterranean.

[werwt22]

Just because the myth is black people have big dicks, doesnt mean all black guys do and just because you found one with 4" doesnt debunk it either. But judging from what escorts I know, the studies I've read and watched on TV, and the ratio of big vs small on the porn sites, its true that black guys are typically larger in comparison to white guys.

[txsam]

It's just like socio-economics. White and Asian guys have more education/better careers in general, but that doesn't mean that Blacks and Latinos can't do better than Whites/Asians- it's just statistics ...

[argentina2007]

I'm not sure, I'm your bog standard Mediterranean waiter looking type and I'm about 9.5 inches, no word of a lie.

[loveboof]

I'm not sure, I'm your bog standard Mediterranean waiter looking type and I'm about 9.5 inches, no word of a lie.

Alright Manuel...

[robertlouis]

Six pages on this? FFS.

[Jay6966]

I am blessed with a big Cock.

[natina]

AFRICANS IN AFRICAN HAVE HIGHER EDUCATIONS THEN MOST EUROPEANS YET THEY STILL HAVE BIGGER PENIS.


its got alot to do with genes and other factors


It's just like socio-economics. White and Asian guys have more education/better careers in general, but that doesn't mean that Blacks and Latinos can't do better than Whites/Asians- it's just statistics ...

[bluesoul]

This post is regarding an observation I've made from watching porn (particularly transsexual porn). My post rarely get a lot of responses and I assume that a large part of that is due to the fact that I don't post often, I'm not popular on the site, and usually my post are not accompanied with pictures of penises. Also perhaps because my post are boring and the topics are stupid or just not interesting to people. With that said I'm not expecting a rousing response to this post but a few comments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I'm wondering if anyone else has had this thought and if so if there are any facts to validate it.

As a black man it is common to hear that African Americans, or Africans and their descendants (where ever they may be on the globe) have the largest penises per capita. But it seems to me that just about ever girl that I've seen from Brazil in pictures or videos has a huge penis (girth wise in particular).

I'm not a geneticist but I know that there is a high proportion of African genetics in Brazil (in comparison to other South American countries) and I would assume that this might play some role. But I would also assume that the genes wouldn't be as strong or prevalent as they would be in say African Americans.

If this is the case then transsexual porn seems to suggest that the title of "the largest penises" that blacks have carried should actually belong to South America because I see far larger girls from Brazil on average than I do with the black girls from here in the United States that I've seen in pictures and videos.

I know that the culture of Brazil is one that focuses heavily on looks and physique. Could this pressure cause Brazilian producers to only choose the largest of models? Or is it that the "blacks are the largest" thing turns out to be just a myth?

this is a great post, but i honestly think you should present this research paper to an organization such as unicef as well as oxford with your plee of giving accolades to the south american transsexuals as holders of the biggest peni in the world. think of the difference you could make in the world with this observation.

[PeePeeLover]

I agree that the term "African American" when referring to black people is absolutely stupid. So if you are a British black person you still get called American? How about terms like "African Canadian" or "African Australian"? Then why not call white people who live in Africa "Caucasian Africans" It should just be black. Not meaning to offend anyone. I'd rather be called white then caucasian.

[Avers]

No problem, people. Make twice per week the injections of Pregnyl (1500 - 5000 dz.) during one year, and by the end of it you'll get a real monster. Plus, you'll decrease your wight.

[GrimFusion]

No problem, people. Make twice per week the injections of Pregnyl (1500 - 5000 dz.) during one year, and by the end of it you'll get a real monster. Plus, you'll decrease your wight.

Please don't encourage injections. What people do on their own accord is their own stupid fault, but handing out advice that could effectively kill a person's entire sex life and render them impotent isn't very awesome.

[GrimFusion]

I agree that the term "African American" when referring to black people is absolutely stupid. So if you are a British black person you still get called American? How about terms like "African Canadian" or "African Australian"? Then why not call white people who live in Africa "Caucasian Africans" It should just be black. Not meaning to offend anyone. I'd rather be called white then caucasian.

African-Americans have their own culture that stems from both Africa and America's befuddled history of slavery and segregation. Attacking the term "African American" usually infers that you don't give a damn about that history or their culture. Personally, I kinda agree with you. Slavery and segregation is a part of American history, not African-American history; and one of the biggest issues in America is segregated cultures. It's not just a black issue, though. Russians only live near other Russians, Koreans near Koreans, and whites with whites. Each community has their own culture and operate differently. It's like self-segregation, and if that weren't the reality, I really doubt racism would exist so substantially anymore.

The only issue I have with the term "African American" is that the words are backward. African Americans are not Africans first and Americans second. They're Americans. If anything, the term should be American-African, especially generations after families gained citizenship. There's no reason why I should take offense, but it doesn't make any amount of sense to me either.

Americans are weird. When we're asked about our nationality, we usually respond with our family origins. My family origins are Russian, German, and Romanian, but my nationality is American. My family has been Americans for four generations. That doesn't mean I discount my family's Russian, German, and Romanian cultures, but I'm not trying to let them get in the way of meeting new people who don't hold the same cultural beliefs.

[loveboof]

So if you are a British black person you still get called American? How about terms like "African Canadian" or "African Australian"? Then why not call white people who live in Africa "Caucasian Africans" It should just be black. Not meaning to offend anyone. I'd rather be called white then caucasian.
lol. A black British person is just called British over here.

It's only in USA that people use the term 'African American' for all black people.

[south ov da border]

African-Americans have their own culture that stems from both Africa and America's befuddled history of slavery and segregation. Attacking the term "African American" usually infers that you don't give a damn about that history or their culture. Personally, I kinda agree with you. Slavery and segregation is a part of American history, not African-American history; and one of the biggest issues in America is segregated cultures. It's not just a black issue, though. Russians only live near other Russians, Koreans near Koreans, and whites with whites. Each community has their own culture and operate differently. It's like self-segregation, and if that weren't the reality, I really doubt racism would exist so substantially anymore.

The only issue I have with the term "African American" is that the words are backward. African Americans are not Africans first and Americans second. They're Americans. If anything, the term should be American-African, especially generations after families gained citizenship. There's no reason why I should take offense, but it doesn't make any amount of sense to me either.

Americans are weird. When we're asked about our nationality, we usually respond with our family origins. My family origins are Russian, German, and Romanian, but my nationality is American. My family has been Americans for four generations. That doesn't mean I discount my family's Russian, German, and Romanian cultures, but I'm not trying to let them get in the way of meeting new people who don't hold the same cultural beliefs.

I've come to realize that blacks in america have been lied to all their lives and struggle to find things to be proud of in themselves. Thing is just about everthing in society has akebulan/ethiopia/moor influence.

Watching this movie as I type
HIDDEN COLORS - Official Trailer - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3lABiHlOqw)

[giovanni_hotel]

Most Black immigrants don't refer to themselves as African American. That's an American 'Black' thing when we decided in the 1960s to no longer allow ourselves to be defined by the dominant White culture and instead define ourselves.
We used to be called 'colored'. THen 'negro' was the acceptable term. Black became beautiful in the 1960s, then we tried to get technical with 'African American', being both a part of yet still separate in many unintentional ways from the dominant culture.

Call me Black, AA, doesn't really matter to me. Lingusitically, I don't think putting your ancestral origin before your place of birth or nationality works. American-Italian sounds as if you are a foreign national living in America, instead of an American whose ancestral roots are from Italy.

Gotta remember, when African slaves were brought here, they had their culture forcibly stripped from them and in many instances were physically punished for practicing traditions from the motherland.
Black people deciding to call themselves African-American is all about reclaiming one's own sense of history, which is unique to living in this country.

With that said,
Black trannies have the biggest ding dongs!:salad, if you're into that kind of thing.

[brickcitybrother]

My 2 cents - A scientific study found that on average ... Swedes have the largest dicks. FYI. I don't care so much. I'm black and I don't think I have a particularly large one anyway. Oh well... size queens look elsewhere.

[Avers]

>Please don't encourage injections. What people do on their own accord is their own stupid fault, but handing out advice that could effectively kill a person's entire sex life and render them impotent isn't very awesome.

Well, the question is that Pregnyl, as one of HGH specific "versions", stimulates the dramatic growth of corpus cavernosum even for adult people. Not only for men, but also for shemales/tranny-girls because of original hormonal disfunction of theirs corpses and not closed epiphysis zones. Even more, for shemales it stimulates the double effect of feminity level increase but also of the penis size / balls size / erectile function / sperma production level growth. So, for shemales the injections of Pregnyl under foreskin of theirs "equipments" (as also the regular massage of penis and balls) or inside of the balls sack, are considered as the double opporunity to look more feminine and to have an enhanced skill in masculine sex abilities and ... dimensions. And of course, - the final size of personal "equipment" does not depend of the question of the race.