Are we living the golden age of transexuals?

[ELSAPO]

With girls that are perfect 10s, like Sunshyne Monroe, Jennifer Paris, Alexandra Bittencourt, Amy Daly, Hazel Tucker.. and so forth is this our generations Golden age of Transsexuals? Will the future propel trannys in mainstream? or has this started with Yasmin Lee the this summers Hangover 2?? Discuss among yourselfs..

[Silcc69]

No the golden age is when it will be widely accepted on a nationwide level. And when that will happen, I have kno clue.

[Bobby Domino]

As many hot passable TGs as there are, we are nowhere near the Golden Age of TGs. Like Silcc69 said TGs need to be accepted in the mainstream where girls can have a career like any other person & not have to resort to porn & escorting to lead their lives. Then, I would say we're in the ballpark.

[Quiet Reflections]

If this is the golden age, I weep for them.

[ELSAPO]

wait, Yamin Lee did a full frontal on a major film, that is not huge. And by golden age I meant more on the looks department. Its hard for most girls to look closley to Jennifer Paris, Allanah Star and Sunshyne Monroe. Lets face its, your local escort from backpages is a 7-8 tops!! So we might not be lving in the golden age??

[yodajazz]

From a sociologist view, it's just natural forces. You have greater acceptance, as the the idea spreads through public consciouness. The appointment of a transexual, to a position, by the Obama adminstration is one symbolic example. However, with greater acceptance their is also a force for resistance to change. The resistance often sees themselves as an embattled minority, seeking to defend the species from destruction, etc. If you look behind the resistance, they are often using it as a source of power. It's the classic example of scapegoating, for many of them.

It seems to me, that the most important, acceptance for society is parents, accepting their transgender children, no matter what age. One major factor, is all parents do ot want to see their children on a path where society will give them a rough time. So this then circles back to the perception of greater acceptance or not is a self fulfilling prophecy.

[Merkurie]

For Porn -- probably.
For Real -- not yet.

We are getting there. I think this is like the 70s were for the gay community, a period where TS have undeniably entered mainstream awareness, but not at all receiving mainstream acceptance.

People are coming out more and more and at younger ages. It is no where near as unheard of as in the past and society is being forced to deal with transsexualism.

Conservative and traditionally religious society still feels free to indulge their prejudices against transgendered people, but they are always the last to change. When todays teens reach their middle years (15 to 20 years) then maybe.

[ed_jaxon]

I definitely think in terms of adult endeavors this is a special time.

But overall???


Not yet.

[giovanni_hotel]

When the majority of TGs aren't regarded as gay men in drag, then we as a society will have crossed an important threshold.
IMO it's because most people don't know any TGs in real life. Real trans-women beyond the physical, have this whole vibe that's 'feminine','female', and not 'effeminate' like a stereotypical gay man.

Once you come to understand this person is more woman than anything else, IMO it will be easier for random straight guys into TGs to be out about their affections.

Again, I'd rather be living in 2011 into TGs than 1971.

I've said before if this was forty years ago, I wouldn't be into tgirls because very few REAL trans-women even existed, and CD/DQs just don't come close to doing it for me.

[livepersona]

We haven't even scratched the surface yet. This plane is still trying to make it off the ground while its still attempting to figure out the framework.

[Jackal]

We have some ways to go until transwomen get the respect they deserve as well as their partners and spouses or just guys like us who find them attractive. Transphobia is a plague on society, it needs to end.

[BellaBellucci]

Cool thread, brahs. :lol:

~BB~

[justafreak]

not at all

[jigglyGmoney]

With girls that are perfect 10s, like Sunshyne Monroe, Jennifer Paris, Alexandra Bittencourt, Amy Daly, Hazel Tucker.. and so forth is this our generations Golden age of Transsexuals? Will the future propel trannys in mainstream? or has this started with Yasmin Lee the this summers Hangover 2?? Discuss among yourselfs..

As a man who has seen the evolution of tgirls from the 80's up till now I'll say this. First off, I dont see Amy Daly and Hazel Tucker as perfect 10's. Far from it. I wont get into why, I'm just sayin. I think thats laughable. But Sunshyne, Jenn, and Yasmin yes. If you look at girls back in the 80's as far as looks, todays girls completely blow them away. They're just werent many passable girls back then. But no, I dont think what Yasmin did in Hangover 2 will completely change mainstream entertainment. It was total stunt casting. And its not like she played a lead character who carried the film. She had a nice cameo basically playing herself. I like Yasmin a lot, so this isnt a knock on her. But we're nowhere near the day when a tgirl will be in a mainstram movie playing a detective, or an action hero.

[BellaBellucci]

So the Golden Age is defined as having the highest number of tgirls who look like Barbie dolls? As if being an 8 or a 9 is the worst thing in the world, or being even lower for those who aren't models. Passability and beauty are two different concepts.

So yeah, we're definitely still a long way off. :geek:

~BB~

[FreddieGomez]

not yet.....when they're accepted in society and work other jobs besides escorting and porn

[SammiValentine]

Come back in hundred years and we ask oursevles then.

oh yea uhm .. never mind eh.

[mikejones]

Well, for guys who like TS girls I would say yes. Lots of pretty girls here in Texas that work regular jobs and want to go out for dating, dinner, etc. Probably not true everywhere, but in the bigger cities it's a great atmosphere.

[PomonaCA]

I doubt it. The girls today at 3 times as good as the girls 10 years ago but probably not HALF as good as the girls 10 years from now. As more males get access to the possibilities of feminization I say we have only scratched the surface of what's possible. In 10 years time we're probably looking at exponential growth of transsexuality.

[robertlouis]

There are enough shallow posts on this thread alone to suggest that we're a long way off in terms of broad social acceptance, when people feel still it's fine to categorise and classify, and to diss girls who don't match whatever dickhead standard they carry in their heads.

I know girls who, dare I say it, like Debra, have transitioned successfully, hold down good jobs in the real world and would no more go into porn than they would sky dive off Canary Wharf. With all due respect, it's when girls like that achieve social acceptance, and notin the entirely symbolic and largely facile world of entertainment, that real progress will have been made.

[robertlouis]

It might be helpful if some of the girls gave us an insight, not so much into the early days of their transition, but how they cope with things on an everyday basis and how the everyday world in turn reacts to them.

What's it like when you're dressed down, in the supermarket, the high st, on public transport etc?

That will give a much more realistic picture of how things stand now than relatively irrelevant discussions about how good the girls working in porn look.

[Debra]

not yet.....when they're accepted in society and work other jobs besides escorting and porn

You mean like me and thousands of other TS do every day?

There are plenty of us TS girls who have never worked in escorting or porn. I went to collage and achieved 2 degrees, and now have a fantastic job in advertising. And I did all of this after my transition as a woman. All of my co-workers know who and what I am and they don't care. I have my own home in a nice neighborhood where people accept who I am. And there are thousands like me. We just don't have websites announcing who we are.

This is not the golden age for us yet. But the day will come. We are far more accepted today than we used to be. And it WILL get better. A TS girl can do anything she wants, and be whatever she wants. She only has to want it.

[Merkurie]

Debra,
you write that your co-workers know you are TS, what role do you think "stealth" plays or should play in finding a place in society for transwomen?

[BellaBellucci]

You mean like me and thousands of other TS do every day?

There are plenty of us TS girls who have never worked in escorting or porn. I went to collage and achieved 2 degrees, and now have a fantastic job in advertising. And I did all of this after my transition as a woman. All of my co-workers know who and what I am and they don't care. I have my own home in a nice neighborhood where people accept who I am. And there are thousands like me. We just don't have websites announcing who we are.

This is not the golden age for us yet. But the day will come. We are far more accepted today than we used to be. And it WILL get better. A TS girl can do anything she wants, and be whatever she wants. She only has to want it.

You're my favorite new poster. :mrgreen:

~BB~

[Debra]

You're my favorite new poster. :mrgreen:

~BB~

Well thank you sweetie. I'm glad to hear that.


Debra,
you write that your co-workers know you are TS, what role do you think "stealth" plays or should play in finding a place in society for transwomen?

Stealth should always be plan A. But the truth should be the goal.

When I first applied with my company, I never told anyone what I was. I got hired and went to work. One of the guys there wanted to date me and I kindly turned him down. It was about 3 weeks into my employment and I had a good bead on everyone there. I became friends with a few of the girls and one day at my house, I confessed to them. They didn't believe me. So I whipped it out and they almost fell off their chairs. They seemed shocked at first, but kinda grew into the idea and they were cool with it. One girl just stared at my dick. She got up, walked over to me and just gave it a squeeze, then smiled and said, "It's warm". Then she was convinced.

It was only a few weeks after, that one of them spilled the beans and everyone knew it in minutes. The guy who wanted to date me, thanked me for not embarrassing him, and he accepted me. A couple of people were strange around me at first, but they got over it and I was accepted by all.

Stealth works if you shut your mouth and don't date anyone there. But I firmly believe that the truth is always the way to go. If they don't like it, fuck them. They'll get over it sooner or later after they run out of stupid jokes. As I said, this is a far more accepting society than it used to be, but there is a long way to go when TS are in the White House. LOL.

[robertlouis]

not yet.....when they're accepted in society and work other jobs besides escorting and porn

This isn't a dig at you Freddie, but a more general one for a lot of the guys on the forum for whom looking at ts porn or discussing it on a site like this is their only experience of the transgender world. Even those who have been with escorts, with all due respect to both parties, are only skimming the surface of the real world for most ts girls.

Like I said, I have ts friends here in the UK who pass successfully, hold down good jobs and are also in stable, loving relationships with men, even to the extent of successful adoption of children.

The porn and glamour world is the 10% of the iceberg that you can see. Most girls just get on with it. Their transition is no less traumatic and painful than the girls you see on a forum like HA, but they are the majority, and when they gain full acceptance, and it's already happening slowly, that's when the social wheel will click forward a notch.