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Boardwalkempire
10-24-2011, 04:24 AM
I have been talking to this girl for a while now..we are not dating but we both new there was a strong possibility we would date..just a matter of when.

Anyway I decided to tell her I'm into trannies today and i have been with a few...

Ya its over between us lol she doesn't even want to talk to me..

Did I make the wrong decision by telling her about me and transexuals?

doctor screw
10-24-2011, 04:29 AM
What were you thinking????that's a rookie move,dude

DL 4 LIFE,lol

Yeah
10-24-2011, 04:32 AM
You should have kept that quiet until later.

Debra
10-24-2011, 04:33 AM
Are you serious BWE? You really don't know why she left????

Boardwalkempire
10-24-2011, 04:34 AM
I have no idea why I did that..luckily i met her online and age lives really far away..it will never get out.

I think I told her just to see her reaction and if I could do it lol

It won't happen again lol

jerseyboy72
10-24-2011, 04:36 AM
I have been talking to this girl for a while now..we are not dating but we both new there was a strong possibility we would date..just a matter of when.

Anyway I decided to tell her I'm into trannies today and i have been with a few...

Ya its over between us lol she doesn't even want to talk to me..

Did I make the wrong decision by telling her about me and transexuals?

Yes stupid move, why so soon?

Boardwalkempire
10-24-2011, 04:37 AM
Are you serious BWE? You really don't know why she left????

No Deb I know why she left..but she has messed with girls before so i thought it would be ok..there was a double standard..

I wish I could have an extremely passable transexuals that I can make my girl and no one would ever know..because she is so passable lol

Quiet Reflections
10-24-2011, 04:38 AM
you shouldn't lie to people you like and sometimes you run the risk of losing them but at least you can look at yourself in the mirror and know you are an honest person. She will probably tell everyone that you are a liar and gay but don't let that get to you. I think you did the right thing. Why would you want to be with someone that you can't be yourself around.

doctor screw
10-24-2011, 04:43 AM
Don't listen to this guy^^^
You made a mistake
Next time,lie,lie,and lie some more
Forget the childish wishful thinking,I live in the real world
In the real world,there's double standards,adjust(with lies)
Remember "DL 4 LIFE"lol

Silcc69
10-24-2011, 04:46 AM
Don't blurt that shit out if she didn't ask about it. I highly doubt GG go about asking if a guy is in to tranny's or not. Though some will ask I have never had it happen to me. IF she never asks about it simply don't tell her. Unless you gf is very openminded it's a wasre of time.

Boardwalkempire
10-24-2011, 04:47 AM
you shouldn't lie to people you like and sometimes you run the risk of losing them but at least you can look at yourself in the mirror and know you are an honest person. She will probably tell everyone that you are a liar and gay but don't let that get to you. I think you did the right thing. Why would you want to be with someone that you can't be yourself around.

No I.met her online and she live a state away. It will never get out

CORVETTEDUDE
10-24-2011, 04:49 AM
There is one answer for this.....

Quiet Reflections
10-24-2011, 04:49 AM
Don't listen to this guy^^^

I have to agree! nobody should listen to me.

Boardwalkempire
10-24-2011, 04:50 AM
Don't listen to this guy^^^
You made a mistake
Next time,lie,lie,and lie some more
Forget the childish wishful thinking,I live in the real world
In the real world,there's double standards,adjust(with lies)
Remember "DL 4 LIFE"lol

Dl for life..that's my motto lol

loren
10-24-2011, 04:50 AM
No Deb I know why she left..but she has messed with girls before so i thought it would be ok..there was a double standard..

Double standards are bullshit. It's okay for her to play with girls, but you can't have fun with TS. That's just like a lot of guys who are anti-gay, but at the same time, they don't complain when two girls get it on.


As for you telling her about your interests, that is up to you.

Quiet Reflections
10-24-2011, 04:51 AM
No I.met her online and she live a state away. It will never get out
you are set then. It may hurt a bit for a while since you liked her but there are always others next time you log on.

Bobby Domino
10-24-2011, 04:57 AM
I think you told her too soon. I would have at least gotten some ass first. Hindsight is 20/20.
I told a chick I was fooling around with that I was into TGs and she flipped out but in a good way. She was really freaky in the bedroom - and pretty much everywhere else - so I had a suspicion she wouldn't care.
Never got to do anything with her and a TG but I know she would have been down; down on both of us, that is. lol!!!

Like some people said, at least you know you were true to yourself (but that ain't gonna get you laid, neither)

Debra
10-24-2011, 04:58 AM
If she had messed with girls before then she shouldn't have a problem with you and guys or TS.

But keep in mind that anyone who is close enough to become someone you date a lot or even a future GF, she is not going to want to hear about the competition that you like and have been with. She may have felt that if you like TS that much, that she as a GG might not be woman enough to hold you, and you might dtray to TS on the side. Girls are like that sometimes. We want to feel that we are more than enough for you, and you won't stray.

mealticket
10-24-2011, 04:59 AM
just because she made out with girls in the past doesn't mean she would be accepting of you liking ts....there is no comparison...what would be the point of telling her? maybe later on when your dating and u see a hot ts on tv u can say oh she is hot and gauge her response,...rookie move...ive only had one gg know i like ts as well and it wasnt because i told her..

PomonaCA
10-24-2011, 04:59 AM
I think you told her too soon. I would have at least gotten some ass first. Hindsight is 20/20.


Yeah that's the first thing I thought. Once you bone her she's yours. So you should have waited until you sealed the deal before you told her.

william peterson
10-24-2011, 05:42 AM
there are some things that you cen keep to yourself . you just found out number 1 the hard way .

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 05:45 AM
I have been talking to this girl for a while now..we are not dating but we both new there was a strong possibility we would date..just a matter of when.

Anyway I decided to tell her I'm into trannies today and i have been with a few...

Ya its over between us lol she doesn't even want to talk to me..

Did I make the wrong decision by telling her about me and transexuals?

No you did not, You did the best thing rather than for you guys to be together and then you do things behind her back... kudos for you babe!!!

On a side note i'm taking applications to be my new boyfriend...

BigBlackMan
10-24-2011, 05:49 AM
Cool story bro

fred41
10-24-2011, 05:51 AM
You don't have to tell people your intimate secrets unless you become intimate...and even then it may not be necessary depending on your circumstances.

...especially when you're not even dating.

Dino Velvet
10-24-2011, 05:57 AM
Don't tell nobody nuthin'! One more thing. Keep your mouth shut.

Boardwalkempire
10-24-2011, 06:06 AM
No you did not, You did the best thing rather than for you guys to be together and then you do things behind her back... kudos for you babe!!!

On a side note i'm taking applications to be my new boyfriend...

Thanks sweaty.

You told me to inbox you and you never wrote me back missy..
where can I get this application? =)

fred41
10-24-2011, 06:13 AM
sweety...only sweaty coming from the gym..

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 06:14 AM
Thanks sweaty.

You told me to inbox you and you never wrote me back missy..
where can I get this application? =)

Lol. i'm making one, then i'm going to print out like a thousand copies...

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 06:28 AM
sweety...only sweaty coming from the gym..

lol.. that's me after 2 hours of pounding....

Boardwalkempire
10-24-2011, 06:30 AM
Lol. i'm making one, then i'm going to print out like a thousand copies...

Girl I'm shit hot.

I wanna be your man 8)

The Shika
10-24-2011, 06:38 AM
She's in the business of finding a man.

And let me tell ya, business is boomin'.

She's open for business.

The business of giving you the business.

...

Up your butt.

I'm looking to expand her business.

fred41
10-24-2011, 06:41 AM
lol.. that's me after 2 hours of pounding....

2 hours of pounding!!!

...if it isn't over in a couple of minutes, I give up ... turn on the television and make myself a sandwich...:)

icarus2112
10-24-2011, 06:44 AM
BWE, did you tell her through text or e-mail? cause if so you better hope some written form dodnt come back to haunt you. The only girl I ever told i was into TS's was a stripper that first confessed to me that she has a really kinky urge to be with a TS, and then I told her that I had been with a few.

Evon, where can I get an application? :salad

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 07:05 AM
2 hours of pounding!!!

...if it isn't over in a couple of minutes, I give up ... turn on the television and make myself a sandwich...:)

No baby, long and hard... I will allow you to take breaks dont worry!

fred41
10-24-2011, 07:20 AM
No baby, long and hard... I will allow you to take breaks dont worry!

hmmm....will there be refreshments and perhaps a puppet show in between?

...that might be nice..:)

dderek123
10-24-2011, 09:11 AM
If she had messed with girls before then she shouldn't have a problem with you and guys or TS.

But keep in mind that anyone who is close enough to become someone you date a lot or even a future GF, she is not going to want to hear about the competition that you like and have been with. She may have felt that if you like TS that much, that she as a GG might not be woman enough to hold you, and you might dtray to TS on the side. Girls are like that sometimes. We want to feel that we are more than enough for you, and you won't stray.
Good advice.

Don't talk about your ex (or exs) to your partner. Don't be specific. If you feel you have to talk about your past experiences just say: "In my experience ..." and leave it at that.

AmericanDream
10-24-2011, 10:24 AM
The age of the internet...smdh

BLKGSXR
10-24-2011, 10:44 AM
2 hours of pounding!!!

...if it isn't over in a couple of minutes, I give up ... turn on the television and make myself a sandwich...:)Fred its ok you got some years on yah! Remember my ex I told ya about I used to do this to hershe was a trooper 2-3 hrs of it :fuckin:


No baby, long and hard... I will allow you to take breaks dont worry!
sandwich and a glass of water...then repeat is what I always say :geek:

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 10:48 AM
Fred its ok you got some years on yah! Remember my ex I told ya about I used to do this to hershe was a trooper 2-3 hrs of it :fuckin:


sandwich and a glass of water...then repeat is what I always say :geek:

I cum in 45 min but i have the ability to multiple orgasm for 2 hours in sequence if im getting fucked...

BLKGSXR
10-24-2011, 10:49 AM
I cum in 45 min but i have the ability to multiple orgasm for 2 hours in sequence if im getting fucked...
Oh really "evil smirk" lol jk All I know is I got stamina ^_^

BigDF
10-24-2011, 10:53 AM
I cum in 45 min but i have the ability to multiple orgasm for 2 hours in sequence if im getting fucked...45 minutes??? I guess I won't be filling out any applications for the position. 45 minutes of physical activity like that would most likely kill me. Aw what the hell, at least I'd die with a smile on my face.:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

Wendy Summers
10-24-2011, 02:21 PM
No Deb I know why she left..but she has messed with girls before so i thought it would be ok..there was a double standard..

I wish I could have an extremely passable transexuals that I can make my girl and no one would ever know..because she is so passable lol

When I was out there dating, you have no idea how many guys got excited because I blend in perfectly. But when the reality of "stealth" sets in... There's always somewhere where someone is in the know. Having a guy wigging while chilling with my friends was never cool. Guys on the DL tend to love the fantasy of the stealth girlfriend, but the ones who can truly handle all that comes with it are a far rarer breed.

fred41
10-24-2011, 02:31 PM
Fred its ok you got some years on yah! Remember my ex I told ya about I used to do this to hershe was a trooper 2-3 hrs of it

Sorry to hear she's your ex... but it does sound like it was good while it lasted... (2-3 hrs. would cause me chafing...lol)

badboyinthebx
10-24-2011, 07:24 PM
I cum in 45 min but i have the ability to multiple orgasm for 2 hours in sequence if im getting fucked...

thats impressive.

SirCumsAlot
10-24-2011, 07:45 PM
I didnt look at the 5 pages of posts, but, maybe u should have hinted it to her. No way I'mma tell my chick I'm into tgirls just out of the blue if we have a strong bond and I know something like that might break it up

SirCumsAlot
10-24-2011, 07:48 PM
I cum in 45 min but i have the ability to multiple orgasm for 2 hours in sequence if im getting fucked...

Damn why so long? I sometimes cant stand it when it takes a tgirl a year just to cum. The excitement kinna dies down after a while (all depending on the sex of course)

Jericho
10-24-2011, 08:22 PM
If she's going to be such a two-faced mare, it sounds like you had a lucky escape! :shrug

BLKGSXR
10-24-2011, 09:15 PM
Sorry to hear she's your ex... but it does sound like it was good while it lasted... (2-3 hrs. would cause me chafing...lol)
talked to her this morning for a brief moment, she found out it was me her voice changed...to a sad tone :whistle: It was a random thing jusss cuz were notdatingdoesnt mean Icant be a friend right? 0_o

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 09:22 PM
Sorry to hear she's your ex... but it does sound like it was good while it lasted... (2-3 hrs. would cause me chafing...lol)

It called lube... preferably water based many women tell me the silicone one is good i personally hate it i like the ky natural feel, feels like pussy juice.

justafreak
10-24-2011, 09:26 PM
when dealing with females just tell them what they want to hear, it works a whole lot better.

timxxx
10-24-2011, 10:11 PM
26 years old, 6'5,I'm straight & l also date Transsexuals.

That shit only flies on boards like this.

Just lie until she gets to know the fake you.

tsdvdman
10-24-2011, 10:12 PM
Inexperienced move. Never disclose that type of information unless you have freaked and fucked her every which way and she is open to trying new things..exploring fantasies..etc

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 10:17 PM
It was better you got it out of your system, because one way or another it will come out, better for it to come out now, than 5 years down the road then she dumps you because you like ts women. Trust me something like this never is hidden for long, something always happens!!!! Honestly really is the best policy and I hope you don't get jaded with all these other comments about lying about it.

I prefer an intimate and emotionally committed relationship but as long as the man is honest with me I don't mind a sexually open relationship, there are women out there who value honesty but almost any woman hate dishonesty!!!

tsdvdman
10-24-2011, 10:32 PM
It was better you got it out of your system, because one way or another it will come out, better for it to come out now, than 5 years down the road then she dumps you because you like ts women. Trust me something like this never is hidden for long, something always happens!!!! Honestly really is the best honestly and I hope you don't get jaded with all these other comments about lying about it.

I prefer an intimate and emotionally committed relationship but as long as the man is honest with me I don't mind a sexually open relationship, there are women out there who value honesty but almost any woman hate dishonesty!!!
I agree..the truth usually always come out. But isn't this situation similar to a guy who is dating a hott brunette and then out of the blue he says.." honey..I need to tell you something...I'm really into blondes". Why would you even say tat..just keep it to yourself. And with the whole ts/tv/cd thing..most men and women outside of the "trans" community don't distinguish the difference...so as far as she is concerned..you like COCK!!:loser:

TsVanessa69
10-24-2011, 10:34 PM
I have been talking to this girl for a while now..we are not dating but we both new there was a strong possibility we would date..just a matter of when.

Anyway I decided to tell her I'm into trannies today and i have been with a few...

Ya its over between us lol she doesn't even want to talk to me..

Did I make the wrong decision by telling her about me and transexuals?
No maybe she wasn't the right person for you then,
but at least you are honest about what you like and kidos to you for that.

Dino Velvet
10-24-2011, 10:35 PM
The truth doesn't ever have to come out if you're good enough at hiding it. Why risk ruining a relationship? You don't think your girl tells you everything, do you?

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 10:38 PM
I agree..the truth usually always come out. But isn't this situation similar to a guy who is dating a hott brunette and then out of the blue he says.." honey..I need to tell you something...I'm really into blondes". Why would you even say tat..just keep it to yourself. And with the whole ts/tv/cd thing..most men and women outside of the "trans" community don't distinguish the difference...so as far as she is concerned..you like COCK!!:loser:

That is different, liking a blonde over brunette is something almost normal or vise, but liking a "man" challenges their gender and sexuality in their eyes, If you plan on dating a GG make sure shes the secure and sexually open type. If a man told me he liked men I wouldn't date him. Sorry I prefer straight guys that Wont put me in any type of risk, this is how some GG view us..

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 10:40 PM
The truth doesn't ever have to come out if you're good enough at hiding it. Why risk ruining a relationship? You don't think your girl tells you everything, do you?

Oh trust me it will always come out, wether its a few years down the line or 2 months, and when a woman attaches and find out your cheating, say goodbye to your penis. literally.. you risk the relationship by lying, Its better to end something that would never be compatible.

BellaBellucci
10-24-2011, 10:43 PM
Best thread ever!!!

~BB~

Bobby Domino
10-24-2011, 10:47 PM
It's not that hard to keep a secret. What's the big deal. Many are assuming that if you date a GG and have an attraction to TG you're going to cheat. I don't see the correlation. We have TG porn for that kind of outlet. :jerkoff

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 10:59 PM
It's not that hard to keep a secret. What's the big deal. Many are assuming that if you date a GG and have an attraction to TG you're going to cheat. I don't see the correlation. We have TG porn for that kind of outlet. :jerkoff

Well you must date dumb women... lol.. I personally know how to find things out and i am good at it... And if I find any dishonesty in the relationship whether it starting or already built I have no problem leaving, if you can live with yourself to lie and look at the women your building something with, you don't really care for her... spare me the hurt feelings and just fucking come out with it!

Why do men make things more complicated than it already is? tell the truth, if it works it works if it doesn't move to the next girl that accept your fantasies... why live and marry a prude and a frigid woman anyway?

BellaBellucci
10-24-2011, 11:01 PM
Well you must date dumb women... lol.. I personally know how to find things out and i am good at it... And if I find any dishonesty in the relationship whether it starting or already built I have no problem leaving, if you can live with yourself to lie and look at the women your building something with, you don't really care for her... spare me the hurt feelings and just fucking come out with it!

Why do men make things more complicated than it already is? tell the truth, if it works it works if it doesn't move to the next girl that accept your fantasies... why live and marry a prude and a frigid woman anyway?

:iagree:

Fuck yeah!

~BB~

doctor screw
10-24-2011, 11:03 PM
The problem is a lot of guys are kinda retarded when it comes to lying(plus they lie half-ass).I told a chick in my current rotation that I was Muslim just to beat,and all it took was a little research on the interwebs.I haven't got caught yet,and won't get caught.

Most gg's will reject you for liking TS's(over 90%)
The TS that tell you ,you did a good thing,aren't gonna date.Look out for yourself,and lie your ass off.
The chicks telling you to be honest,are worrying about their egos(guys accepting them in public)
Cater to yourself and remember"DL 4LIFE"lol

tsdvdman
10-24-2011, 11:11 PM
That is different, liking a blonde over brunette is something almost normal or vise, but liking a "man" challenges their gender and sexuality in their eyes, If you plan on dating a GG make sure shes the secure and sexually open type. If a man told me he liked men I wouldn't date him. Sorry I prefer straight guys that Wont put me in any type of risk, this is how some GG view us..
That's exactly the point I was trying to make. By him telling her he was into trannies is the same as him being into men in her eyes

Silcc69
10-24-2011, 11:13 PM
The problem is a lot of guys are kinda retarded when it comes to lying(plus they lie half-ass).I told a chick in my current rotation that I was Muslim just to beat,and all it took was a little research on the interwebs.I haven't got caught yet,and won't get caught.

Most gg's will reject you for liking TS's(over 90%)
The TS that tell you ,you did a good thing,aren't gonna date.Look out for yourself,and lie your ass off.
The chicks telling you to be honest,are worrying about their egos(guys accepting them in public)
Cater to yourself and remember"DL 4LIFE"lol

U aint lyin 95% of the white girls will call u gay, 99% of the black chics will call u a faggot. Shit I don't even tell chics how many I have been with. You really don't even have to lie just smooth talk the girl into thinking that she is the best thing since slice bread and that shit will never come up.

Bobby Domino
10-24-2011, 11:16 PM
Well you must date dumb women... lol.. I personally know how to find things out and i am good at it... And if I find any dishonesty in the relationship whether it starting or already built I have no problem leaving, if you can live with yourself to lie and look at the women your building something with, you don't really care for her... spare me the hurt feelings and just fucking come out with it!

Why do men make things more complicated than it already is? tell the truth, if it works it works if it doesn't move to the next girl that accept your fantasies... why live and marry a prude and a frigid woman anyway?

If I'm in a LT relationship why would I be looking for something else? What is there to lie about. How do you explain a bisexual who like girls & boys? If that person is dating a girl is he/she lying to himself? makes no sense.....

If I was EXCLUSIVELY into TGs then I would date TGs exclusively. What the OP said was that he divulged info about his attraction to TGs, doesn't mean he's going to go behind her back to fulfill it. That was my point, unless he can't control his urges.

If you're eating chocolate ice cream, but really prefer vanilla, you're still going to enjoy the ice cream. Or every time you take a lick, do you repeat, "I wish you were vanilla, I wish you were vanilla."

doctor screw
10-24-2011, 11:17 PM
The reason I said 90%,was you can talk some chicks into anything(trust me on that)
I agree,sweet nothings are very effective on chicks,lol

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 11:21 PM
The problem is a lot of guys are kinda retarded when it comes to lying(plus they lie half-ass).I told a chick in my current rotation that I was Muslim just to beat,and all it took was a little research on the interwebs.I haven't got caught yet,and won't get caught.

Most gg's will reject you for liking TS's(over 90%)
The TS that tell you ,you did a good thing,aren't gonna date.Look out for yourself,and lie your ass off.
The chicks telling you to be honest,are worrying about their egos(guys accepting them in public)
Cater to yourself and remember"DL 4LIFE"lol

I would like to know where you get your statistic? I have dated many couples and we had a threesome relationship, of 90 percent is your statistic then i want to put my statistic out there... 50 percent of modern women will not mind it by my experience.

I have dated many men who are into ts and gg, my only rule is I want to know and it has to be fair I also get to fool around with other men, sometimes that was the deal breaker for them.

Why would i talk about ego when im already telling him the reason why she didn't like him is because the girl thinks were men do i really want to say that> no.

Reply to the threader, if you need a GF Lets meet one day and see if we click trust me your honesty makes it more attractive, plus why take advice from these men? hellooo they have no game if they have to fucking lie LOL... You have more game than many of these men and you did the right thing..

FYI 45 percent of my clients are couples many the woman initiate the sessions, and she love it!!!!!

ed_jaxon
10-24-2011, 11:23 PM
I am pretty up front with my life and those who know me know I can be wild on the one hand and fiercely family oriented on the other.

Sitting with my brother in a bar once I told a girl who liked me that my brother and I had a few girls we had shared over the years.

She did not bat an eye and still comes around. Very few girls however would I share my world with. Most just cannot handle it.

Everything that is known need not be shared.

ed_jaxon
10-24-2011, 11:24 PM
And Evon the way you look 99% of these dudes would leave their wives and slap their mothers for you!

Real stats.

BluegrassCat
10-24-2011, 11:28 PM
my only rule is I want to know and it has to be fair I also get to fool around with other men, sometimes that was the deal breaker for them.



So you have to be in an open relationship? Is that for work or pleasure?

Bobby Domino
10-24-2011, 11:28 PM
I am pretty up front with my life and those who know me know I can be wild on the one hand and fiercely family oriented on the other.

Everything that is known need not be shared.

doesn't seem like the case here. It's between all or nothing, according to the savants.

No room for a third (leg) room

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 11:29 PM
The only time I freaked out is when I found out one of my ex had unprotected sex, then I broke up with him because I cant believe the nerve he had to put me in any type of risk... ASSHOLE!

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 11:30 PM
So you have to be in an open relationship? Is that for work or pleasure?

Both, I mean its not like hes sexually committed to me, I'm just smart enough to make money out of it.

doctor screw
10-24-2011, 11:41 PM
I would like to know where you get your statistic? I have dated many couples and we had a threesome relationship, of 90 percent is your statistic then i want to put my statistic out there... 50 percent of modern women will not mind it by my experience.

I have dated many men who are into ts and gg, my only rule is I want to know and it has to be fair I also get to fool around with other men, sometimes that was the deal breaker for them.

Why would i talk about ego when im already telling him the reason why she didn't like him is because the girl thinks were men do i really want to say that> no.

Reply to the threader, if you need a GF Lets meet one day and see if we click trust me your honesty makes it more attractive, plus why take advice from these men? hellooo they have no game if they have to fucking lie LOL... You have more game than many of these men and you did the right thing..

100% is a total percentage
Most being a total percentage,Of course I'm not exact.Most women are not into trannyz,that's just a fact.

Most of the people you deal with,seek trans out.You didn't meet them by accident,lol.It started off"business",or they where looking for a TS in the first place.You just weren't aware of it.

Any dude who would be okay with you banging other dudes is and will always be a sucker.If you looking for that type of guy,he doesn't exist,even If he says otherwise.If you truly are looking for a loving relationship,change those qualifications,this instance.

My shit(game) is on another level.He's a rookie,I was just showing him the ropes. @ OP /Lie my friend,certain chicks were probably on the receiving end of a lie,which is way they disagree with me.When you play the game,play to win.

Remember "DL 4 LIFE"lol

EvonRose
10-24-2011, 11:46 PM
100% is a total percentage
Most being a total percentage,Of course I'm not exact.Most women are not into trannyz,that's just a fact.

Most of the people you deal with,seek trans out.You didn't meet them by accident,lol.It started off"business",or they where looking for a TS in the first place.You just weren't aware of it.

Any dude who would be okay with you banging other dudes is and will always be a sucker.If you looking for that type of guy,he doesn't exist,even If he says otherwise.If you truly are looking for a loving relationship,change those qualifications,this instance.

My shit(game) is on another level.He's a rookie,I was just showing him the ropes. @ OP /Lie my friend,certain chicks were probably on the receiving end of a lie,which is way they disagree with me.When you play the game,play to win.

Remember "DL 4 LIFE"lol

FYI your not normal and your never going to be with your attraction to ts women, I doubt couples started of that way they talk about it and they agree on a sexual fantasy, what do you know? its not like you dated a girl into ts obviously from your statistic its true.

And that's where the double standards come in... a guy who allowed me to be sexually open is a sucker. No a guy I lie to would be the sucker. just like the girl you lie to would be a sucker, and if she done the same to you and fucked another guy you would feel the same way. I have no problem with monogamy however when a guy fucks other women gg or tg, then that automatically gives me permission to experiment with other people.

seems like your the rookie in this situation since you cant even talk to your woman doctorscrew, aren't you a doctor? or are you playing dr phil and giving fake advice? lol..

BellaBellucci
10-25-2011, 12:29 AM
or are you playing dr phil and giving fake advice? lol..

Well, to be fair, the advice is real. It's the doctor that's fake. :lol:

Now Dr. Oz is the one that is a real doctor, right?

~BB~

doctor screw
10-25-2011, 12:38 AM
FYI your not normal and your never going to be with your attraction to ts women, I doubt couples started of that way they talk about it and they agree on a sexual fantasy, what do you know? its not like you dated a girl into ts obviously from your statistic its true.

And that's where the double standards come in... a guy who allowed me to be sexually open is a sucker. No a guy I lie to would be the sucker. just like the girl you lie to would be a sucker, and if she done the same to you and fucked another guy you would feel the same way. I have no problem with monogamy however when a guy fucks other women gg or tg, then that automatically gives me permission to experiment with other people.

seems like your the rookie in this situation since you cant even talk to your woman doctorscrew, aren't you a doctor? or are you playing dr phil and giving fake advice? lol..

I don't have to date a girl who into TS to know that,anybody with half a brain is aware of the double standard.I could say something about you calling me abnormal,but I'm in a nice mood today.

If someone would through away there self-respect for a piece of trim,they're a sucker.Yeah,the Moroccan chick is a sucker(sucking on dezz nuttz)lol.A simple Ma'Lesh,and everything would be forgiving and I know her personality type(shes forgiving,and I would take advantage of that).She's not wifey,so it doesn't matter in the end.So,If the guy you would be dating likes both(ts,gg),that gives you permission to slut it up.Good luck with that shit,lol.

I do talk to her(shes not my woman),with lies.lol
I giving him the truth,and not the lies you're trying to brainwash him with,lol

DL 4 LIFE,lol.

Bobby Domino
10-25-2011, 12:42 AM
Well, to be fair, the advice is real. It's the doctor that's fake. :lol:

Now Dr. Oz is the one that is a real doctor, right?

~BB~

I like Dr. Oz. He doesn't have that conceited, judgmental attitude. I could see him giving the same professional advice to a patient, one-on-one.
But then, I'm a geek who likes graphs & stats

BellaBellucci
10-25-2011, 12:43 AM
I like Dr. Oz. He doesn't have that conceited, judgmental attitude. I could see him giving the same professional advice to a patient, one-on-one.
But then, I'm a geek who likes graphs & stats

A match made in Heaven then? I hope not. That would mean you're both dead. Some doctor! :lol:

~BB~

Bobby Domino
10-25-2011, 12:47 AM
A match made in Heaven then? I hope not. That would mean you're both dead. Some doctor! :lol:

~BB~

The doctors I go to do give not a diagnosis, they just supply to goods:dancing:

BellaBellucci
10-25-2011, 12:51 AM
The doctors I go to do give not a diagnosis, they just supply to goods:dancing:

Mental note: do a naughty nurse scene. Got it! :dancing:

~BB~

Bobby Domino
10-25-2011, 12:56 AM
Mental note: do a naughty nurse scene. Got it! :dancing:

~BB~

Just don't use Tom. Without that goatee, he looks like boudin
(All due respect to Mr. Moore; I wish I had his life...)

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 12:58 AM
I don't have to date a girl who into TS to know that,anybody with half a brain is aware of the double standard.I could say something about you calling me abnormal,but I'm in a nice mood today.

If someone would through away there self-respect for a piece of trim,they're a sucker.Yeah,the Moroccan chick is a sucker(sucking on dezz nuttz)lol.A simple Ma'Lesh,and everything would be forgiving and I know her personality type(shes forgiving,and I would take advantage of that).She's not wifey,so it doesn't matter in the end.So,If the guy you would be dating likes both(ts,gg),that gives you permission to slut it up.Good luck with that shit,lol.

I do talk to her(shes not my woman),with lies.lol
I giving him the truth,and not the lies you're trying to brainwash him with,lol

DL 4 LIFE,lol.

Well then your a half brain then right? because you obviously know what women and tg like right? and that's why you gotta lie right? Because in reality you lie because you don't know anything... Its an insecurity you have about yourself that is why you don't say nothing at all, at least this guy has bigger balls expressing and openly telling it it like it is. I never said it was abnormal but if your dating a gg and lying about your tg hookups that in no standards is NORMAL. Because if it is then why lie?

I get it. You need a slave not a woman, because I would never tolerate it, she may be forgiving but your just evil for taking advantage of it, But I get it you don't really like her that's why you don't plan on wifing it up I guess my point has been made, you don't really care for her that's why you have no issues throwing shit on her face, The open relationship deal is up for discussion at the end of the day fair is fair, if the guy screws then expect your women to screw, you stay loyal then expect us to stay loyal. No if or but.

You don't need to give him anymore advice your on a DL hes a straight guy that told his gf of his fantasies with other type of girls, you and him not on the same level. His balls are bigger than yours, the only thing big is your mouth doctorscrew, big eough to suck giant cocks, since your on the DL...

Please go back to 2011 where women are actually more educated then men, smarter, richer, more successful, and more powerful and can do just about anything men can.. lets not live in the Amish days... quit the double standard.

BellaBellucci
10-25-2011, 12:59 AM
Just don't use Tom. Without that goatee, he looks like boudin
(All due respect to Mr. Moore; I wish I had his life...)

I'm going to use all of my own talent, male, female, and TS. I have a lot more support for my site from some of my friends than I expected and I'm grateful for that, so they'll probably be in most of my vids.

~BB~

Bobby Domino
10-25-2011, 01:05 AM
I'm going to use all of my own talent, male, female, and TS. I have a lot more support for my site from some of my friends than I expected and I'm grateful for that, so they'll probably be in most of my vids.

~BB~

Good luck with all of that. I'm looking forward to it. I signed up to your site:)

Silcc69
10-25-2011, 01:10 AM
Well then your a half brain then right? because you obviously know what women and tg like right? and that's why you gotta lie right? Because in reality you lie because you don't know anything... Its an insecurity you have about yourself that is why you don't say nothing at all, at least this guy has bigger balls expressing and openly telling it it like it is. I never said it was abnormal but if your dating a gg and lying about your tg hookups that in no standards is NORMAL. Because if it is then why lie?

I get it. You need a slave not a woman, because I would never tolerate it, she may be forgiving but your just evil for taking advantage of it, But I get it you don't really like her that's why you don't plan on wifing it up I guess my point has been made, you don't really care for her that's why you have no issues throwing shit on her face, The open relationship deal is up for discussion at the end of the day fair is fair, if the guy screws then expect your women to screw, you stay loyal then expect us to stay loyal. No if or but.

You don't need to give him anymore advice your on a DL hes a straight guy that told his gf of his fantasies with other type of girls, you and him not on the same level. His balls are bigger than yours, the only thing big is your mouth doctorscrew, big eough to suck giant cocks, since your on the DL...

Please go back to 2011 where women are actually more educated then men, smarter, richer, more successful, and more powerful and can do just about anything men can.. lets not live in the Amish days... quit the double standard.

Can you please show me all of these GG's that wouldn't give a damn if I was with a TG. And i'm not talking about some swingers club either.

Bobby Domino
10-25-2011, 01:23 AM
I never said it was abnormal but if your dating a gg and lying about your tg hookups that in no standards is NORMAL. Because if it is then why lie?.

Now I understand why you see it as lying. Of course, cheating is cheating no matter with whom and not telling your partner is lying.

But I don't think the OP was admitting that he would cheat; the OP never used the word "cheat." He wrote in his OP that he "mentioned" he had been with TGs before, not that he planned to continue if they were to start dating. I, along with a group of others, said giving up that type of info was unnecessary so early in the relationship because it would get a negative reaction by most (or 99% of) GGs, or anyone else for that matter.

The issue was the difference in reaction between a girl having a lesbian experience and a guy having a TG experience. This chick saw him a "gay"

Was he implying that he was going to continue to see/date TGs, if given the opportunity, while he was dating the girl? You have to ask him, but it's not what most of us assumed....

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 01:24 AM
Can you please show me all of these GG's that wouldn't give a damn if I was with a TG. And i'm not talking about some swingers club either.

Well, if your with a gg and you have sex on the side with a tg what is that? that is swinging of she knows, that is cheating if she does not... regardless of tg or gg sex with another person opens you guys up for discussion on open relationship, therefore you are swinging. You either commit yourself to a gg, or a tg or you swing... wow I'm 21 and feel more experienced than these virgin acting guys.. lol.. how cute... Lol.. jk

The biggest issue is these men don't want to swing because they don't want to know or see their women getting fucked, so they rather cheat than to be in a sexually open relationship. That is so sad It views the women so low that their value is just lies and cheats. Personally you can love and be emotionally committed in an open relationship its just Americans are so new to the mentality...

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 01:32 AM
Now I understand why you see it as lying. Of course, cheating is cheating no matter with whom and not telling your partner is lying.

But I don't think the OP was admitting that he would cheat; the OP never used the word "cheat." He wrote in his OP that he "mentioned" he had been with TGs before, not that he planned to continue if they were to start dating. The initial responses by posters were about not the need not to have to offer that type of info because it would get a negative effect, as with most GGs, or anyone else for that matter.

The issue was the difference in reaction between a girl having a lesbian experience and a guy having a TG experience. This chick saw him a "gay"

Was he implying that he was going to continue to see/date TGs, if given the opportunity, while he was dating the girl? You have to ask him, but it's not what most of us assumed....

No I got what he meant, but some of these men are encouraging him to lie about it even after the relationship. Here is the thing if you have underlying sexual fantasies time and time have been proven that if the partner cant give it usually they act regardless if its committed or not. This is a big statistic but not 100 percent do don't take offense. I think putting it out there just makes things easier just like my fantasy with bdsm needs to be fulfilled once in a while, I share my sexual fantasy if the guy doesn't like it I say NEXT!!!!!!! that negative reaction would be no different 5 years in the relashionship as it was with the girl thinking he was gay. so he did the right thing ending it before they dug a hole deeper.

jerseyboy72
10-25-2011, 01:37 AM
Can you please show me all of these GG's that wouldn't give a damn if I was with a TG. And i'm not talking about some swingers club either. I would never tell any gg that I'm dating , that I'm into tgirls.

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 01:40 AM
I would never tell any gg that I'm dating , that I'm into tgirls.

lol....I have met women randomly in a club like tryst, boom boom room, avalon, liv. The night started with friendship type energy and when i told them i was a tg we ended the night fucking... So I guess i've been dating the right women.. lucky I guess..

Silcc69
10-25-2011, 01:55 AM
Well, if your with a gg and you have sex on the side with a tg what is that? that is swinging of she knows, that is cheating if she does not... regardless of tg or gg sex with another person opens you guys up for discussion on open relationship, therefore you are swinging. You either commit yourself to a gg, or a tg or you swing... wow I'm 21 and feel more experienced than these virgin acting guys.. lol.. how cute... Lol.. jk

The biggest issue is these men don't want to swing because they don't want to know or see their women getting fucked, so they rather cheat than to be in a sexually open relationship. That is so sad It views the women so low that their value is just lies and cheats. Personally you can love and be emotionally committed in an open relationship its just Americans are so new to the mentality...

No not like that having a gg and then having a tg on the side would be cheating. I'm not talking about that though. I have had sum chics that would've been open to 3sums with other GG's but IDK if they would do so with a TG. But I have never really pushed strongly to get a 3sum anyways

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 01:57 AM
No not like that having a gg and then having a tg on the side would be cheating. I'm not talking about that though. I have had sum chics that would've been open to 3sums with other GG's but IDK if they would do so with a TG. But I have never really pushed strongly to get a 3sum anyways

would you be open to having tg Girlfriend and having threesome with gg?

ed_jaxon
10-25-2011, 01:58 AM
would you be open to having tg Girlfriend and having threesome with gg?

Hell yes!

AmericanDream
10-25-2011, 01:58 AM
I think it's pretty stupid to tell someone you like t-girls when you're just starting to talk to them or whatever. It just seems like you want to have a threesome. That's good too but some of you seem to be looking for a relationship for the wrong reasons. That's why you're getting dumped on online sites before meeting someone. Pretty pathetic.

The internet....smh

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 02:03 AM
I think it's pretty stupid to tell someone you like t-girls when you're just starting to talk to them or whatever. It just seems like you want to have a threesome. That's good too but some of you seem to be looking for a relationship for the wrong reasons. That's why you're getting dumped on online sites before meeting someone. Pretty pathetic.

The internet....smh

In a lot of ways I do agree with you, I notice tg admirers dont know what to do, at times. And i am also learning to get to know the person first then when we get kinky that's when I say hey I like to be tied up and blindfolded and spanked. But i don't think it was stupid of him to say I think he made the right decision if the girl was hypocritical dyke anyway.

Silcc69
10-25-2011, 02:14 AM
would you be open to having tg Girlfriend and having threesome with gg?

I would but i'm also a realist to.

Bobby Domino
10-25-2011, 02:29 AM
No I got what he meant, but some of these men are encouraging him to lie about it even after the relationship. Here is the thing if you have underlying sexual fantasies time and time have been proven that if the partner cant give it usually they act regardless if its committed or not. This is a big statistic but not 100 percent do don't take offense. I think putting it out there just makes things easier just like my fantasy with bdsm needs to be fulfilled once in a while, I share my sexual fantasy if the guy doesn't like it I say NEXT!!!!!!! that negative reaction would be no different 5 years in the relashionship as it was with the girl thinking he was gay. so he did the right thing ending it before they dug a hole deeper.


Now you're bringing stats into it, shame shame; don't make the same mistake as Dr. Screw. Show me a stat that proves you're point.

Yes, I agree with you. If the desire to be with TGs is that strong, putting it out there from the start will makes things easier, but most people DO NOT act on their fantasies. That is not the norm, not the exception. Fantasies are fantasies, people rely on magazines, books, movies, and the internet to fulfill them. People are afraid to indulge in their fantasies. As much as they THINK they would like it, they have no desire to become part of the culture, to be associated with it. Shit, half of the members on here have NEVER been with a TG. There's a thread on it, look it up. I find that incredible!!!

TG realists/supporters are a minuscule community. The life that you and other TGs live is incredibly difficult and I am completely in awe with your courage & determination. You have all my respect and support :Bowdown:, but as much as I am conscious of your (edit) obstacles, I am also aware that most people don't understand TGs and project you in negative light. I'm sensitive to that. The response the OP got is the likely reaction anyone would have given. I commend the OP's bravery to offer that type of info.


If I enjoyed sleeping with a girl's dirty panties over my head, I wouldn't tell her on the first date, that's all, although it might make things very interesting:)


EDIT:
I also disagree that 5 years in the relationship, she would have had the same reaction. If you've built a relationship for 5 years, you've invested enough to try to understand the person you love. I'm sure it's case by case, but I know many people who've worked things through (drug addiction, gambling, fetishes, disease, homosexuality, adultery)

doctor screw
10-25-2011, 02:34 AM
Well then your a half brain then right? because you obviously know what women and tg like right? and that's why you gotta lie right? Because in reality you lie because you don't know anything... Its an insecurity you have about yourself that is why you don't say nothing at all, at least this guy has bigger balls expressing and openly telling it it like it is. I never said it was abnormal but if your dating a gg and lying about your tg hookups that in no standards is NORMAL. Because if it is then why lie?

I get it. You need a slave not a woman, because I would never tolerate it, she may be forgiving but your just evil for taking advantage of it, But I get it you don't really like her that's why you don't plan on wifing it up I guess my point has been made, you don't really care for her that's why you have no issues throwing shit on her face, The open relationship deal is up for discussion at the end of the day fair is fair, if the guy screws then expect your women to screw, you stay loyal then expect us to stay loyal. No if or but.

You don't need to give him anymore advice your on a DL hes a straight guy that told his gf of his fantasies with other type of girls, you and him not on the same level. His balls are bigger than yours, the only thing big is your mouth doctorscrew, big eough to suck giant cocks, since your on the DL...

Please go back to 2011 where women are actually more educated then men, smarter, richer, more successful, and more powerful and can do just about anything men can.. lets not live in the Amish days... quit the double standard.

I don't have to be a different organism to know it's habits. I lie because it suits my needs(I come first),that simple.That guy was inexperienced,that's why I offered my help,balls(lol)have nothing to do with it.I never banged a TS,but I am lying like a mutha fucka to her,lol.

So because I lie about being a Muslim,I want her to be my slave??You sound like you reaching,just to go back and forth with me.Who cares If you would tolerate it(I wouldn't tolerate a chick banging hundreds of other dudes)lol.Evil is a chick pretending to like a guy,but only using him for money.I don't plan on wifing her,because she's a prude.Yeah,I'm shitting all over her face,lol--->wtf

She's like the only person I'm seeing anyway,so who am I cheating with???lol
Well,not in less porn counts.Then I am a complete whore

He told a girl he barely knew that he was into trannyz,that's a rookie move.I gave him the advice,so he wouldn't make that same mistake again.I don't touch weewee's so that doesn't apply to me.I beatz da puzzy,not iz da puzzy,lol.What's with the name calling??really??

Women have made advances in society,that's a good thing.You using the success of women as a weapon speaks to your sexism.I do live in the modern era,were women constantly try to take advantage.I just believe in pre-firing

DL 4LIFE,lol

Quiet Reflections
10-25-2011, 02:37 AM
lol....I have met women randomly in a club like tryst, boom boom room, avalon, liv. The night started with friendship type energy and when i told them i was a tg we ended the night fucking... So I guess i've been dating the right women.. lucky I guess..
it is different if you are a TS going for a GG than it is if you are a guy into TS going after a GG that has totally different equipment than what you just told her you like.

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 02:39 AM
I don't have to be a different organism to know it's habits. I lie because it suits my needs(I come first),that simple.That guy was inexperienced,that's why I offered my help,balls(lol)have nothing to do with it.I never banged a TS,but I am lying like a mutha fucka to her,lol.

So because I lie about being a Muslim,I want her to be my slave??You sound like you reaching,just to go back and forth with me.Who cares If you would tolerate it(I wouldn't tolerate a chick banging hundreds of other dudes)lol.Evil is a chick pretending to like a guy,but only using him for money.I don't plan on wifing her,because she's a prude.Yeah,I'm shitting all over her face,lol--->wtf

She's like the only person I'm seeing anyway,so who am I cheating with???lol
Well,not in less porn counts.Then I am a complete whore

He told a girl he barely knew that he was into trannyz,that's a rookie move.I gave him the advice,so he wouldn't make that same mistake again.I don't touch weewee's so that doesn't apply to me.I beatz da puzzy,not iz da puzzy,lol.What's with the name calling??really??

Women have made advances in society,that's a good thing.You the success of women as a weapon speaks to your sexism.I do live in the modern era,were women constantly try to take advantage.I just believe in pre-firing

DL 4LIFE,lol


Well then all this sums it up, that's why the lesbian population increased. Lol.. I get it your the douche type of guy its fine. No porn doesn't count, and jacking off doesn't count as cheating porn helps me when im too sore to get penetrated so porn is my hero.

Bobby Domino
10-25-2011, 02:39 AM
would you be open to having tg Girlfriend and having threesome with gg?

an emphatic yes!!!!! :party:


In a lot of ways I do agree with you, I notice tg admirers dont know what to do, at times. And i am also learning to get to know the person first then when we get kinky that's when I say hey I like to be tied up and blindfolded and spanked. But i don't think it was stupid of him to say I think he made the right decision if the girl was hypocritical dyke anyway.

Evon, you are full of surprises, very very good surprises :geek:

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 02:55 AM
Now you're bringing stats into it, shame shame; don't make the same mistake as Dr. Screw. Show me a stat that proves you're point.

Yes, I agree with you. If the desire to be with TGs is that strong, putting it out there from the start will makes things easier, but most people DO NOT act on their fantasies. That is not the norm, not the exception. Fantasies are fantasies, people rely on magazines, books, movies, and the internet to fulfill them. People are afraid to indulge in their fantasies. As much as they THINK they would like it, they have no desire to become part of the culture, to be associated with it. Shit, half of the members on here have NEVER been with a TG. There's a thread on it, look it up. I find that incredible!!!

TG realists/supporters are a minuscule community. The life that you and other TGs live is incredibly difficult and I am completely in awe with your courage & determination. You have all my respect and support :Bowdown:, but as much as I am conscious of your reality, I am also aware that most people don't understand TGs and project you in negative light. I'm sensitive to that. The response the OP got is the likely reaction anyone would have given. I commend the OP's bravery to offer that type of info.


If I enjoyed sleeping with a girl's dirty panties over my head, I wouldn't tell her on the first date, that's all, although it might make things very interesting:)


EDIT:
I also disagree that 5 years in the relationship, she would have had the same reaction. If you've built a relationship for 5 years, you've invested enough to try to understand the person you love. I'm sure it's case by case, but I know many people who've worked things through (drug addiction, gambling, fetishes, disease, homosexuality, adultery)

read up the Kinsey sex book it is a book that medical and physiologist take to account and is studied in human sexuality I have read it with my mom as a child. Unlike some people when I put a percentage out there I don't do it just because... I am a woman of facts I wouldn't claim anything but.

also the Kinsey sex book states it is that case of a person not acting on fantasy if the fantasy is illegal, or immoral. Fantasies which are easily accessible are 75 percent more likely to be acted upon such as ts fantasy. Nothing about is is illegal, or immoral according to the law.

There is also a study in the book about transensualism that's the attraction to tg/tv since 1950 it was at 33.7 percent and increased up to 45 percent in 1988... out of that 45 percent 38 percent have acted upon. I would rather read a text medical book than to go to HA and read a poll...

and if you disagree that possibly is against your odds after five years then why do 50 percent of men cheat on their wives? and why does 50 percent of marriage end in divorce? Studies have proven if you look that those two percentage are somehow linked... You may know some people who worked trough it but that SOME is a very small percentage of the norm that doesn't make it.

Cheating is number 3 cause for divorce, and communication is 1. Both related. TRUE FACTS.

All im saying is I commend the man for telling the truth more balls than you can summon up, and hey it didn't work out he has now the opportunity to look for a girl that share the same interest maybe...

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 02:57 AM
it is different if you are a TS going for a GG than it is if you are a guy into TS going after a GG that has totally different equipment than what you just told her you like.

So then explain why they would want a relationship with me? You missed the point. There are women out there like this.

doctor screw
10-25-2011, 02:58 AM
Well then all this sums it up, that's why the lesbian population increased. Lol.. I get it your the douche type of guy its fine. No porn doesn't count, and jacking off doesn't count as cheating porn helps me when im too sore to get penetrated so porn is my hero.

The lesbian population is exploding,because chicks are outta their fucking minds,lol.
Just saying:whistle:

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 03:00 AM
The lesbian population is exploding,because chicks are outta their fucking minds,lol.
Just saying:whistle:

Maybe your right, but maybe dicks are not enough...Sometimes we need the communication and honesty and this thread obviously proves men lack that. lol.. jk

Bobby Domino
10-25-2011, 03:47 AM
read up the Kinsey sex book it is a book that medical and physiologist take to account and is studied in human sexuality I have read it with my mom as a child. Unlike some people when I put a percentage out there I don't do it just because... I am a woman of facts I wouldn't claim anything but.

also the Kinsey sex book states it is that case of a person not acting on fantasy if the fantasy is illegal, or immoral. Fantasies which are easily accessible are 75 percent more likely to be acted upon such as ts fantasy. Nothing about is is illegal, or immoral according to the law.

That's the problem - society sees an attraction to a transsexual as IMMORAL!! It doesn't matter if it's legal.

There are men who like to wear women's clothes. They're not going to work dressed like that.


There is also a study in the book about transensualism that's the attraction to tg/tv since 1950 it was at 33.7 percent and increased up to 45 percent in 1988... out of that 45 percent 38 percent have acted upon. I would rather read a text medical book than to go to HA and read a poll...

Attraction is up - great; HA will have more members.
38% of 45 = 17. 17% have actually followed through. Smaller number than what thought, still a very small minority.


and if you disagree that possibly is against your odds after five years then why do 50 percent of men cheat on their wives? and why does 50 percent of marriage end in divorce? Studies have proven if you look that those two percentage are somehow linked... You may know some people who worked trough it but that SOME is a very small percentage of the norm that doesn't make it.

Cheating is number 3 cause for divorce, and communication is 1. Both related. TRUE FACTS.

How many of those divorces & adultery happened before 5 years of marriage. Women cheat, too, by the way.

So we are both arguing small percentages. Evon, I'm not against the advice you gave. It's just I wouldn't have taken the same steps as the OP. I deal with my relationships differently. I'm not going to play all my cards. I have to develop trust with someone before I begin to reveal my soul.

Yes, communication is key, which is what I hope we're doing:)


All im saying is I commend the man for telling the truth more balls than you can summon up, and hey it didn't work out he has now the opportunity to look for a girl that share the same interest maybe...

there's a fine distinction between being courageous and being naive

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 04:03 AM
That's the problem - society sees an attraction to a transsexual as IMMORAL!! It doesn't matter if it's legal.

There are men who like to wear women's clothes. They're not going to work dressed like that.



Attraction is up - great; HA will have more members.
38% of 45 = 17. 17% have actually followed through. Smaller number than what thought, still a very small minority.



How many of those divorces & adultery happened before 5 years of marriage. Women cheat, too, by the way.

So we are both arguing small percentages. Evon, I'm not against the advice you gave. It's just I wouldn't have taken the same steps as the OP. I deal with my relationships differently. I'm not going to play all my cards. I have to develop trust with someone before I begin to reveal my soul.

Yes, communication is key, which is what I hope we're doing:)



there's a fine distinction between being courageous and being naive

I never said ts is immoral, that's why according to this book these kind of fantasy is acted upon more in percent like group sex, bondage, etc. Dressing like a woman is different to living a woman i cant speak on behalf of the cross dressers.

Yes women cheat too I agree! but men are in the higher percentage of it, the average marriage last 8 years in the us before divorce so if that's the average there's a big group that last less than 5 years. and many have said its communication with money, sex, and lifestyle. So in conclusion the guy who told the girl probably saved his ass 8 years of marriage if this percentile proves my point about sexual openness...

Developing a trust is all good and im for it but how long 5 years until you open up and the girl doesn't want what you have to say? In my opinion I want to know what i'm getting myself into before. I can sense when a man doesn't tell me the truth and that makes me investigative, the ounce of lie, or dishonesty makes me suspicious and suspicious Evon is not pretty.

He wasn't naive for telling the girl obviously his gut feeling told him to do it and it will turn out for the better trust me, you can only go up from here.

I'm the type of girl that demands the truth whether I want to hear it or not, this is life lets face it.

AmericanDream
10-25-2011, 04:22 AM
Yes women cheat too I agree! but men are in the higher percentage of it,

Men are in the higher percentage of it? Where'd you pull that from? smh



the average marriage last 8 years in the us before divorce so if that's the average there's a big group that last less than 5 years.

Then there is a big group that last over 8 years too.

The guys honesty (I'd call it stupidity) didn't save him from anything. Unless if he wants to be alone browsing hungangels his entire life. That might have been a great person that he was talking too and they could've got together great and had a happy life together. If he likes t-girls so much than he should stop wasting time with females.

Bobby Domino
10-25-2011, 04:25 AM
I never said ts is immoral, that's why according to this book these kind of fantasy is acted upon more in percent like group sex, bondage, etc. Dressing like a woman is different to living a woman i cant speak on behalf of the cross dressers.

Yes women cheat too I agree! but men are in the higher percentage of it, the average marriage last 8 years in the us before divorce so if that's the average there's a big group that last less than 5 years. and many have said its communication with money, sex, and lifestyle. So in conclusion the guy who told the girl probably saved his ass 8 years of marriage if this percentile proves my point about sexual openness...

Developing a trust is all good and im for it but how long 5 years until you open up and the girl doesn't want what you have to say? In my opinion I want to know what i'm getting myself into before. I can sense when a man doesn't tell me the truth and that makes me investigative, the ounce of lie, or dishonesty makes me suspicious and suspicious Evon is not pretty.

I'm the type of girl that demands the truth whether I want to hear it or not, this is life lets face it.

LOL!!! Do you have a questionnaire you give to your dates? As much as I find a date with you to be dreamy :praying:, I'll remember to bring my mother. She can answer all your questions while I lose myself in your eyes.
XOXO

Silcc69
10-25-2011, 04:30 AM
I'm pretty sure a guy will cheat before a girl will. There always rules to the exceptions but lets be real.

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 04:37 AM
Men are in the higher percentage of it? Where'd you pull that from? smh


Then there is a big group that last over 8 years too.

The guys honesty (I'd call it stupidity) didn't save him from anything. Unless if he wants to be alone browsing hungangels his entire life. That might have been a great person that he was talking too and they could've got together great and had a happy life together. If he likes t-girls so much than he should stop wasting time with females.

Well no i don't think she was that great of a person for him. Look we all have our past, our dirty laundry etc. if she wasn't willing to accept that then she would have NEVER accepted it in the future. They would have never had a happy life lets be real even if he doesn't act on the ts fantasy if she discovers the porn stack in the room or computer you think she wouldn't freak out as well? cmon dude! lets get real.

mealticket
10-25-2011, 04:40 AM
gotta keep that comp password protected lol

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 04:44 AM
Men are in the higher percentage of it? Where'd you pull that from? smh


Then there is a big group that last over 8 years too.

The guys honesty (I'd call it stupidity) didn't save him from anything. Unless if he wants to be alone browsing hungangels his entire life. That might have been a great person that he was talking too and they could've got together great and had a happy life together. If he likes t-girls so much than he should stop wasting time with females.

Instead of asking me about where I got it, why don't you look it up yourself. and prove me wrong.

Yes there is a percentage of group that last over 8 years, mathematically if 8 years is the average even if 10 years is the highest the fact that 8 is still the average would mean there are more people divorcing within less than 3 years to make 8 the average... Its mathematics guys!!!

But who are you to give him an advice when you yourself are browsing HA? hey im just saying its not like your going out and getting your game on!

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 04:46 AM
gotta keep that comp password protected lol

Why keep a password? Are you hiding something? hmm lets hire a hacker...

see women think 10 steps ahead of men that is why WE are superior. lol.. jk

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 04:47 AM
LOL!!! Do you have a questionnaire you give to your dates? As much as I find a date with you to be dreamy :praying:, I'll remember to bring my mother. She can answer all your questions while I lose myself in your eyes.
XOXO

Yes and I have my dad check ss number, background check, police files, taxes, and bank accounts...

mealticket
10-25-2011, 04:48 AM
damn that is a pretty crappy average...I think people either settle or get too comfortable...so many people marry in their young 20s, way too young to know who you are or who you will be...IMO

nickcave1uk
10-25-2011, 05:19 AM
getting back to the original point telling your g/f you like tv's/ts's/t-girls is much like telling them they lack the one thing you like that being a cock. would you have felt ok if your g/f said i prefer pussy to cock but hey lets work it out. a lucky few get a partners who likes there partners fantasies so bisexuality can be a shared and exciting experience ditto swinging. the rest of us know to keep that little secret just that, it's not you love your g/f any less but if i was her i'd have told you to fuck right off.

mealticket
10-25-2011, 05:27 AM
Why keep a password? Are you hiding something? hmm lets hire a hacker...

see women think 10 steps ahead of men that is why WE are superior. lol.. jk


I actually work from my laptop so it is password protected to protect my work documents ...just conveniently hides other stuff too :)

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 05:30 AM
I actually work from my laptop so it is password protected to protect my work documents ...just conveniently hides other stuff too :)

You guys are so dumb! lol.. you honestly think we don't know you hide things there? I am saying if your my bf I will know everything about you before you know I know, I will just act surprise when you tell me... Just a few tricks my mom taught me who BTW is still married after 21 years....

mealticket
10-25-2011, 05:44 AM
lol well im on a ts forum so you know i like ts so wouldn't really be a big deal if u saw what was on my laptop ...and I am an IT guy, you would have to take my laptop to a tech shop to find anything worthwhile on my comp. which really isnt much...and i wouldnt date a girl that had to snoop like that, i dont cheat so no reason for a gf of mine to check for things on my comp like that

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 05:52 AM
lol well im on a ts forum so you know i like ts so wouldn't really be a big deal if u saw what was on my laptop ...and I am an IT guy, you would have to take my laptop to a tech shop to find anything worthwhile on my comp. which really isnt much...and i wouldnt date a girl that had to snoop like that, i dont cheat so no reason for a gf of mine to check for things on my comp like that

There you go don't arise suspicion and your good, a girl knows when something is going on, Plus id probably allow it anyway... who cares as long as im free to do what I want its all good.

mealticket
10-25-2011, 06:10 AM
well usually in a healthy relationship, there is enough sex, so no need to look at porn :) once a day keeps the porn doctors away

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 06:17 AM
well usually in a healthy relationship, there is enough sex, so no need to look at porn :) once a day keeps the porn doctors away

once? uhmmm no after my srs i need it 2 times daily doctors order...

mealticket
10-25-2011, 06:22 AM
once a day is a minimum. two or more is optimal lol...my next gf needs your doctor lol

robertlouis
10-25-2011, 06:22 AM
I'm the type of girl that demands the truth whether I want to hear it or not, this is life lets face it.

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

Without mutual truth and trust you don't have a relationship in the real sense. Unless you can be completely open with your partner you've either got something serious to hide or you're keeping your options open on other prospects. If you want a relationship and not just something that exists on a purely sexual basis, you both need to work at it.

I'm assuming that your folks will have had the usual ups and downs that all married couples go through, Evon, but there's no way that a marriage can survive that long without both partners trusting each other.

Maybe it's age related although personality comes into it too, but given the choice between endlessly playing the field I'd rather be in a monogamous and loving relationship. It's fine in your 20s, but IMHO not the same when you get older.

Dino Velvet
10-25-2011, 06:37 AM
Oh trust me it will always come out, wether its a few years down the line or 2 months, and when a woman attaches and find out your cheating, say goodbye to your penis. literally.. you risk the relationship by lying, Its better to end something that would never be compatible.

Who said anything about cheating? Certainly not my issue. There is no need to tell a girlfriend or wife about all my attractions and fetishes. No, she won't find out. I'm sure no one can outsmart you but the rest of us weren't born as brilliant and some can be fooled easier than others possibly for an infinite period of time. I'm a filthy pig when I'm single but I never cheat after committing.

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 06:41 AM
Who said anything about cheating? Certainly not my issue. There is no need to tell a girlfriend or wife about all my attractions and fetishes. No, she won't find out. I'm sure no one can outsmart you but the rest of us weren't born as brilliant and some can be fooled easier than others possibly for an infinite period of time. I'm a filthy pig when I'm single but I never cheat after committing.

But I want to know your crazy fantasy, maybe maybe ill find it sexy and join you... who knows? as long as its nothing weird like eating poop or blood or anything like that...

Dino Velvet
10-25-2011, 06:44 AM
But I want to know your crazy fantasy, maybe i maybe ill find it sexy and joinf you... who knows? as long as its nothing weird like eating poop or blood or anything like that...

If we were in a relationship and, let's say you were a GG, why on Earth would I tell you I was into TS? To indulge in my fantasy the monogamy would be gone. I'd rather fondle a bloody stool.

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 06:53 AM
If we were in a relationship and, let's say you were a GG, why on Earth would I tell you I was into TS? To indulge in my fantasy the monogamy would be gone. I'd rather fondle a bloody stool.

Like I said i know many gg that allow their bf to be with ts. There are many fantasies I have that would scare ppl but i have been honest with them and that was the only way they were fulfilled.

bighicknyc
10-25-2011, 06:56 AM
This whole thing is bullshit in that the guy met this girl on line and never met her and told her he liked girls with a penis. Therefore to me he is an idiot for telling a girl he was trying to impress who happened to have a cunt that he like his woman to have a boner every now and then.

rydermorrison
10-25-2011, 07:12 AM
@doctorskrew.. didnt u tell me that you've never been with a ts? what do u know about how society would react if u went out in public with one on your arm? You seem to be painfully insecure and scared of life.. LIVE!!!! lol and FYI I've met tons of girls girls that r lesbians or bisexual and are totally intrigued and into ts women. These arent "swingers" but normal girls, some I even knew before my transition. and to the guy who said that TS women are "men who dress up in women's clothes , but they dont go to work like that". Why are you here? Your generalization of ts women is not only incorrect. Its offensive. If you ever said that to a ts's face she'd probably kick you in the nuts.lol ..only half joking

robertlouis
10-25-2011, 07:16 AM
Like I said i know many gg that allow their bf to be with ts. There are many fantasies I have that would scare ppl but i have been honest with them and that was the only way they were fulfilled.

I admire the openness of that, but do the girls worry about their guy eventually going off with a ts or do they simply see it as offering a physical release that they can't?

As for your own scary fantasies, well...... :ignore:

MdR Dave
10-25-2011, 07:24 AM
@doctorskrew.. didnt u tell me that you've never been with a ts? what do u know about how society would react if u went out in public with one on your arm? . . . If you ever said that to a ts's face she'd probably kick you in the nuts.lol ..only half joking
Nice avatar, Ryder.

rydermorrison
10-25-2011, 07:28 AM
Thnx Dave :).. glad u likey xx

EvonRose
10-25-2011, 07:51 AM
@doctorskrew.. didnt u tell me that you've never been with a ts? what do u know about how society would react if u went out in public with one on your arm? You seem to be painfully insecure and scared of life.. LIVE!!!! lol and FYI I've met tons of girls girls that r lesbians or bisexual and are totally intrigued and into ts women. These arent "swingers" but normal girls, some I even knew before my transition. and to the guy who said that TS women are "men who dress up in women's clothes , but they dont go to work like that". Why are you here? Your generalization of ts women is not only incorrect. Its offensive. If you ever said that to a ts's face she'd probably kick you in the nuts.lol ..only half joking

Thank you!!! Because you have never lived in our world you don't see the women that come to us and want us, your trapped in your little straight world that your so blinded by the possibilities life actually offers... Its stupid to think only men like ts women, it just so happens women do but they just don't go out or on forum with it because unlike some men women see as as women, while some men see us as this fetish things.. Its true!

slingblade
10-25-2011, 01:31 PM
I have been talking to this girl for a while now..we are not dating but we both new there was a strong possibility we would date..just a matter of when.

Anyway I decided to tell her I'm into trannies today and i have been with a few...

Ya its over between us lol she doesn't even want to talk to me..

Did I make the wrong decision by telling her about me and transexuals?

Hell yes you made the wrong decision telling you were into trannies! You dont eva do no shit like that especially don't eva tell a Black Woman youre into trannies or its a wrap!!!!

MissBStar
10-25-2011, 02:00 PM
Thank you!!! Because you have never lived in our world you don't see the women that come to us and want us, your trapped in your little straight world that your so blinded by the possibilities life actually offers... Its stupid to think only men like ts women, it just so happens women do but they just don't go out or on forum with it because unlike some men women see as as women, while some men see us as this fetish things.. Its true!

You are right on girl! And the men will deny that we're just a fetish for them.


Some guy was txting me last night and told me he doesn't want a relationship but he doesn't wanna be permiscious neither. Just trying to tell me what I want to hear so we can get down.

solesman
10-25-2011, 02:23 PM
i have a girlfriend she is cool with it

fred41
10-25-2011, 02:38 PM
If we were in a relationship and, let's say you were a GG, why on Earth would I tell you I was into TS? To indulge in my fantasy the monogamy would be gone. I'd rather fondle a bloody stool.

I think you would be able to bring it out slowly in time (or not)...let the her digest the new information in her own way and allow it to be part of her whole picture of you ...the same way you would with whatever she drops on you...or not. It all comes down to whatever feelings you have for each other.
...but this is only necessary, if you are in fact, going that route with this girl and if in fact you want an open relationship to explore both your fantasies...
...many people don't...that doesn't mean you are doomed to failure...even a 50% divorce rate (the actual pct. is slightly lower than that) means that 50% are successful...

...and I agree with you Dino,...if I ever get married again...it will have to be a monogamous relationship...or it isn't happening. Not all fantasies have to be indulged...they can be with some couples...but they don't have to be.

trish
10-25-2011, 03:50 PM
Discretion is the better part of valor.

Abe Lincoln Geico commercial.mp4 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPX2cQP8uoI)

MdR Dave
10-25-2011, 05:19 PM
You are right on girl! And the men will deny that we're just a fetish for them.


Some guy was txting me last night and told me he doesn't want a relationship but he doesn't wanna be permiscious neither. Just trying to tell me what I want to hear so we can get down.

That last part- most guys will say anything and everything to get laid!

Dino Velvet
10-25-2011, 09:48 PM
...and I agree with you Dino,...if I ever get married again...it will have to be a monogamous relationship...or it isn't happening. Not all fantasies have to be indulged...they can be with some couples...but they don't have to be.

When I promise to be loyal to someone I don't screw around. Keeping the relationship solid and uncomplicated is more important than exploring some fantasy that could do permanent damage making things never the same again. Jerk off in the shower to get your jollies.