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Ponyboy
10-13-2011, 05:58 AM
Ladies, it would be great to hear what you thought about before deciding to become a tgirl.

Half the men on this website adore Tgirls; the other half want to be one, and many members are a bit of both.

I personally put a lot of thought in to the transition but decided not to. I thought I wouldn't be convincing enough and my world would go though a significant change. However, I still think of it. Just yesterday, a young kid referred to me as a lady, even though I wear traditional mens clothes and I dont wear make up. I think I just have a feminine energy. My sexuality is definitely feminine and I would love to have a pussy instead of taking it up the ass.

I like the idea of becoming a woman so I can attract and take more men, but I wonder if that actually happens, besides I dont really have a problem now. We are all a little confused so it would be nice to hear some real life considerations.

EvonRose
10-13-2011, 05:18 PM
It was something I never thought about, I remember age 4 it was Xmas my dad bought me a robo cop toy and my cousin got a barbie doll, i hated the robo cop toy and played with he barbie instead. With that said i would always get an offensive feeling when I was referred to as a boy or he. I had told my mom at that young crying why everyone thinks i'm a boy, Thank god she is an educated woman then she explained to me and helped me transition. Now I didn't actually start taking hormones at 12, my breast fully developed at 17, never went trough male puberty such as voice change, facial changes, body changes, etc. But i would suggest like what my mom had told me before, never transition because it makes you feel sexual, or for men. You can feel as sexual and get as much guys as a man. Being a transsexual is not a joke! there gets to a point where you cannot go back and many cases have left a lot of ts miserable and even commit suicide because they realize they were not true transgenders but had gone too far off transitioning. If this is how you have felt since you can remember you could very well be a true transgender, therefore you need to seek help it is better to live life going for what you want and trying than not trying at all. If you are interested my mom is a sexologist and can advise you a doctor in your city and state. I know I'm only 21 but I know more than you think, and if you need to talk inbox me anytime!

mealticket
10-13-2011, 07:08 PM
Yeah I do think many girls transition for the wrong reasons, sometimes they are just such an effeminate boy that they think life will be easier as a girl, or they want to date straight guys so they become a woman, or whatever other reason that they might find...supposedly girls in Brazil do it to make money as hookers or porn stars...there is a thread of girls who went back to being boys cuz it wasnt right for them...so it does happen. end the end its their body and they can do what they want with it, but hopefully they just make the right decisions...and that they really are true transsexuals...u can talk to a girl for five min and tell whether they are a transsexual or just a gay guy with implants

Ponyboy
10-13-2011, 08:32 PM
EvonRose, You have a great Mum!!!

I think I have decided definitely not to do it - but I think we need more discussion on this. Evon Rose, you knew very early on.

When I was young my favourite toy was a doll but it was a boy doll so I never thought of it as feminine, even though I was the only boy with a doll in the neighbourhood, but I also liked trucks so I was less obvious.

For me it was more of a case of feeling something wasnt right for a long time and then at one point discovering 'this makes sense' and 'this feels good'. I sometimes think humans are capableof a much broader range of behavior than we put them in, and the whole notion of one gender is wrong.

and yes mealticket, some girls probably do transition for the wrong reason. That's why we need to talk about it more!!

EvonRose
10-13-2011, 08:39 PM
EvonRose, You have a great Mum!!!

I think I have decided definitely not to do it - but I think we need more discussion on this. Evon Rose, you knew very early on.

When I was young my favourite toy was a doll but it was a boy doll so I never thought of it as feminine, even though I was the only boy with a doll in the neighbourhood, but I also liked trucks so I was less obvious.

For me it was more of a case of feeling something wasnt right for a long time and then at one point discovering 'this makes sense' and 'this feels good'. I sometimes think humans are capableof a much broader range of behavior than we put them in, and the whole notion of one gender is wrong.

and yes mealticket, some girls probably do transition for the wrong reason. That's why we need to talk about it more!!


Well no i do believe having the notion of gender is right in terms of functionality. Without it we would all be confused, it is a matter of knowing what you are and who you are and embracing it. whether your gay, bi, lesbian or man or woman. There is a group that separates others which is not bad this is selection in many ways some men just wont do with other men, that is why knowing your gender or sexuality is important mentally and spirituality. In reality every human has a gender role and sexuality it is being human, and scientifically normal. In terms of transitioning I was stating I never even thought of it. I just knew I was a little girl and confused to why people saw me as a boy and why i had this body.

Bobby Domino
10-13-2011, 08:50 PM
Now I didn't actually start taking hormones at 12, my breast fully developed at 17, never went trough male puberty such as voice change, facial changes, body changes, etc. But i would suggest like what my mom had told me before, never transition because it makes you feel sexual, or for men. You can feel as sexual and get as much guys as a man. ]Being a transsexual is not a joke! there gets to a point where you cannot go back and many cases have left a lot of ts miserable and even commit suicide because they realize they were not true transgenders but had gone too far off transitioning. If this is how you have felt since you can remember you could very well be a true transgender, therefore you need to seek help it is better to live life going for what you want and trying than not trying at all. If you are interested my mom is a sexologist and can advise you a doctor in your city and state. I know I'm only 21 but I know more than you think, and if you need to talk inbox me anytime!

A very close TG friend told me that after 10 years, she started having male feelings again. During that period, she would look at her tits like obstructions. At the time, I was very new to it all and didn't know how to help. It was a very tough time and I regret not being able to find the words to help her. She is much better now....

SunshyneMonroe
10-13-2011, 08:51 PM
I dont think ppl should trans till 18 I dont feel a 10 year old nor and 16 year old knows ne thing about life... when u trans you should be an adult...imo...My mom made me wait till I was 18 as well as made me freeze some of my "babys" so if i ever wanted to have kids I could...This is was ppl dont think about at 16

mealticket
10-13-2011, 09:15 PM
I think a good option is to go on T blockers somewhere between 13 to 16 to stop male puberty, then maybe at 18 they can then decide if they want to indeed continue transition with estrogen or let male puberty kick in....

MrsKellyPierce
10-13-2011, 09:32 PM
I would disagree with Sunshine.............

However I do agree that you should start hormones at 18

It's very harsh medicine...

I transitioned at age 12 - went to high shool as a female - I had to have loads and loads of counseling before I was even allowed to go to school as a female...

And even then they put me in a special class (for my safety) - till we got an advocacy lawyer

But I knew from the get-go I was wrong - that my body didn't match how I felt...

I think it helped me transitioning younger in my adult life

And look at the beautiful Kim who went post-op at 16 from Germany - she is happier than ever and beautiful...

So Sunshine I have to disagree with you

EvonRose
10-13-2011, 09:33 PM
I dont think ppl should trans till 18 I dont feel a 10 year old nor and 16 year old knows ne thing about life... when u trans you should be an adult...imo...My mom made me wait till I was 18 as well as made me freeze some of my "babys" so if i ever wanted to have kids I could...This is was ppl dont think about at 16

This was a better option for you, but my mom felt it was okay for me to go trough it at 12 and guess she is a trained professional and she did her evaluations and tests and i may have qualified. I don't think we give children enough credit either these kind of subject is not something one thinks about, its something that is just there. If you have to think whether you are a male or female then you are questioning, i never questioned. from my experience being out in public dressed like a boy was humiliating it was that extreme. I would blow up balloons and stuff it down my chest in middle school! so I think the different level of transitioning we went through are two different levels of extreme and i think in some cases should be allowed with younger people.

SunshyneMonroe
10-13-2011, 09:45 PM
I would disagree with Sunshine.............

However I do agree that you should start hormones at 18

It's very harsh medicine...

I transitioned at age 12 - went to high shool as a female - I had to have loads and loads of counseling before I was even allowed to go to school as a female...

And even then they put me in a special class (for my safety) - till we got an advocacy lawyer

But I knew from the get-go I was wrong - that my body didn't match how I felt...

I think it helped me transitioning younger in my adult life

And look at the beautiful Kim who went post-op at 16 from Germany - she is happier than ever and beautiful...

So Sunshine I have to disagree with you


This was a better option for you, but my mom felt it was okay for me to go trough it at 12 and guess she is a trained professional and she did her evaluations and tests and i may have qualified. I don't think we give children enough credit either these kind of subject is not something one thinks about, its something that is just there. If you have to think whether you are a male or female then you are questioning, i never questioned. from my experience being out in public dressed like a boy was humiliating it was that extreme. I would blow up balloons and stuff it down my chest in middle school! so I think the different level of transitioning we went through are two different levels of extreme and i think in some cases should be allowed with younger people.

By starting mones at a young age YOU WILL NEVER HAVE YOUR OWN KIDS...I think its sad that kim will never have her own kids...You may feel you dont wanna have kids now but how about at 30? 40? 50? At this point in my life i dont want kids AT ALL but you never know how ill feel ten years from now...I dont feel a child should go that far...

MrsKellyPierce
10-13-2011, 09:49 PM
By starting mones at a young age YOU WILL NEVER HAVE YOUR OWN KIDS...I think its sad that kim will never have her own kids...You may feel you dont wanna have kids now but how about at 30? 40? 50? At this point in my life i dont want kids AT ALL but you never know how ill feel ten years from now...I dont feel a child should go that far...
You can always adopt? Plenty of kids out there already that need happy, healthy homes.

Too many kids now...

EvonRose
10-13-2011, 09:50 PM
By starting mones at a young age YOU WILL NEVER HAVE YOUR OWN KIDS...I think its sad that kim will never have her own kids...You may feel you dont wanna have kids now but how about at 30? 40? 50? At this point in my life i dont want kids AT ALL but you never know how ill feel ten years from now...I dont feel a child should go that far...

But that's speaking for you I have no problem adopting, you create your family regardless. Adopting a child means you will have a child. there are other ways around it too scientifically...

SunshyneMonroe
10-13-2011, 09:53 PM
You can always adopt? Plenty of kids out there already that need happy, healthy homes.

Too many kids now...


But that's speaking for you I have no problem adopting, you create your family regardless. Adopting a child means you will have a child. there are other ways around it too scientifically...

Yeah but at the end of the day thats someones kids ur watching over not ur own..but hey everyone is diff :)

SunshyneMonroe
10-13-2011, 09:55 PM
Just like Docs will not tie a womans tubes until she has 3 kids I feel a child should not trans until they freeze there "kidos" lol or turn 18

mealticket
10-13-2011, 10:01 PM
who knows, maybe kim had her sperm frozen before she had the surgery, that is always an option if you want your own kids. and what about a future partner, would their sperm not count as your own kid since you will be raising them together?

TSMichelleAustin
10-13-2011, 10:04 PM
It was something I never thought about, I remember age 4 it was Xmas my dad bought me a robo cop toy and my cousin got a barbie doll, i hated the robo cop toy and played with he barbie instead. With that said i would always get an offensive feeling when I was referred to as a boy or he. I had told my mom at that young crying why everyone thinks i'm a boy, Thank god she is an educated woman then she explained to me and helped me transition. Now I didn't actually start taking hormones at 12, my breast fully developed at 17, never went trough male puberty such as voice change, facial changes, body changes, etc. But i would suggest like what my mom had told me before, never transition because it makes you feel sexual, or for men. You can feel as sexual and get as much guys as a man. Being a transsexual is not a joke! there gets to a point where you cannot go back and many cases have left a lot of ts miserable and even commit suicide because they realize they were not true transgenders but had gone too far off transitioning. If this is how you have felt since you can remember you could very well be a true transgender, therefore you need to seek help it is better to live life going for what you want and trying than not trying at all. If you are interested my mom is a sexologist and can advise you a doctor in your city and state. I know I'm only 21 but I know more than you think, and if you need to talk inbox me anytime!

Girl u are so wise beyond your years! You are so right! Too many trans women are not even trans, they did it for attention, sexuality or for men. All the wrong reasons to go down this path. I teach at transgendered conventions all over and see it all the time. I started transitioning at 20, but was dressing at 17 secretly. Where I am from it was unheard of to be trans and not till I was 18 did i meet a transsexual woman (Erica Andrews) and my life changed. I went through this journey without any family support and moving away so I could be myself without a burden on my family. I went through many emotional struggles of am I suppose to have a penis or not. In the end I realized I am a transsexual woman and completely happy with what I have and didnt want to change that. But I know many do need to change that part of them to be complete. But more so then none, I see a lot of girls going about it too fast, or for wrong reasons and years later regret it!

EvonRose
10-13-2011, 10:39 PM
Yeah but at the end of the day thats someones kids ur watching over not ur own..but hey everyone is diff :)

My belief is different whether I do stem cell, or adopt. The motherly instinct you have when loving a child is the same, and I have heard that is true with parents who have adopted and have their own, many say the love is no different unless of course your into the whole blood is thicker stuff... But people wouldn't be adopting if blood was thicker right? If you can abandon your own child I think it is possible to love a child that is not your own. so I think there is a purpose for people that cannot have kids and having the option of adoption. This is my belief and I firmly say that with passion.

TSMichelleAustin
10-13-2011, 10:50 PM
Now, I have fought with idea of having kids and seeing my younger siblings have kids I get jealous... I have my dogs who are my kids but I eventually want to adopt or have my own. I have an amazing husband but it will be down road when we are in our forties... I am loving life too much to have a kid to hold me down. But I think when i am older I will be ready!

Ponyboy
10-14-2011, 01:49 PM
I am so thankful for everything you ladies are saying.

One reason I didnt transition was because I knew that an egg wouldnt grow inside me, and that I couldnt have kids. I was always left wondering what other people felt about this but no one ever talked about it.

The children issue was very important for me.

TSLexiWade
10-14-2011, 02:04 PM
I dont think ppl should trans till 18 I dont feel a 10 year old nor and 16 year old knows ne thing about life... when u trans you should be an adult...imo...



I agree with this.

Ponyboy
10-14-2011, 09:14 PM
The other issue is how important is the sexual act in defining gender. I mean for all other mammels, it is the male who penetrates and leaves his seed in the female. I personally feel it is very important.

I feel my most feminine during the sexual act. I am very attracted to Tgirls that top but I can not link topping to being female. For all mammels, it is the female who is penetrated by the male.

Just to make it more confusing, I have a Tgirl friend in Auckland (another town) and she always bottoms, except with me. In fact, she said she wanted to do me every night for the rest of her life. I suspect if I lived in Auckland, our relationship would have kicked off and I would have transitioned - such is fate.

giovanni_hotel
10-14-2011, 10:48 PM
Fascinating thread.

Ponyboy it seems like you made the right decision not to transition. The reasons you've given for transitioning run counter to what I've heard most trans-women give as the impetus for making the 'switch'.

Sex/sexuality is really at the bottom of the list IMO.
Transitioning seems to be more about physical identity so that the outside matches a girl's internal psychology.
Ponyboy your gender identity seems more fluid, and not really a profound state of your total being as a man or woman.

I can't imagine a woman transitioning then deciding she made the wrong choice.

EvonRose
10-15-2011, 02:18 AM
The purpose of a woman isn't just to give birth, many women cannot bare children doesn't make them less of a female. Reply to down below, starting young has the advantage of making the individual look more womanly, it isnt for everyone but if you ask me if i regret transitioning and taking hormones at 12 I would say fuck no! I am happy I did it. In my opinion if its really there its there no if or but.

SunshyneMonroe
10-15-2011, 02:27 AM
The purpose of a woman isn't just to give birth, many women cannot bare children doesn't make them less of a female. Reply to down below, starting young has the advantage of making the individual look more womanly, it isnt for everyone but if you ask me if i regret transitioning and taking hormones at 12 I would say fuck no! I am happy I did it. In my opinion if its really there its there no if or but.

The fact of the matter is they COULD have had children Im not saying it makes then ne less of a woman at all...Im sure many ts when they get older wish they would have taken the right steps..I have seen women trans at 40 and look just as fish as girls who trans at "12"...I think its wrong for a CHILD to make a choice that they have to deal with for the rest of there life...

Nicole Dupre
10-15-2011, 02:42 AM
I would've had SRS at 12 if my parents were understanding at that point. I think you know what you are from birth. Or at least I did. In my early teens I often disagreed w/ gay guys and drag queens on this issue. Older drag queens would tell me, "Oh, I would never really want to be a girl. Trust me, you don't either. We're all just faggots. Being a boy is better." But I was never much of a boy. I never wanted to be a boy. And in retrospect, those queens telling me that was a case of "misery loves company".

As far as I'm concerned, it's only the world's ignorance that stands in our way when we're kids. Personally, I don't think 18 is any better of an age than 8. When I was 8, I wanted to "cut it off". I used to think of how there might be some hope if I lost it in an accident. I hated my cock. And if someone didn't suck it at age 13, and make it actually seem worth the trouble, I would've had SRS long ago. I still want SRS.

But this OP who settled on being a dude because he simply found a tranny to fuck him? lol That's fucking crazy. That's pervert shit imo; that's not GID. I'm glad he never bothered. He would've been just another hetero CD who transitioned because he was bonkers, out there potentially embarrassing everyone dealing with GID. You know before you even have a libido whether you should've been born male or female imo. I know I did.

EvonRose
10-15-2011, 02:48 AM
The fact of the matter is they COULD have had children Im not saying it makes then ne less of a woman at all...Im sure many ts when they get older wish they would have taken the right steps..I have seen women trans at 40 and look just as fish as girls who trans at "12"...I think its wrong for a CHILD to make a choice that they have to deal with for the rest of there life...

Well what if that decisions made them happy for the rest of their lives? And how about the ts that wish they started earlier? Starting early in low doses of hormones can easily be replaced back if for some reasons the child does not want to transition further, However there is proof of young ts who get their srs before 16 and they are completely free and a big burden has been lifted of their shoulders and they now live normal lives and are happy. What do you think about that?

Nicole Dupre
10-15-2011, 02:51 AM
I bitterly accepted not getting boobs like real GGs by 6th or 7th grade, not being able to have kids by age 13, and not going to the prom with a boy by age 16. This is why being a TS is never quite what being a GG is. GID is a curse that you have to make the most of. I was traumatized by these things long ago. As far as I'm concerned, you make the best of what you have.

0utrageousss
10-15-2011, 02:53 AM
Who cares about having children. I can't stand children and don't want them and never have, that and I wouldn't want to be a single parent even if I did want children. I started at 13 and am glad I did.

EvonRose
10-15-2011, 02:58 AM
Who cares about having children. I can't stand children and don't want them and never have, that and I wouldn't want to be a single parent even if I did want children. I started at 13 and am glad I did.

Thank you!! I mean the the proof that it does make you happy if it is truly what you want, however I do want kids in the future even if I have to marry my gay friend for that its fine.. lol..

Nicole Dupre
10-15-2011, 03:04 AM
I have nieces and nephews. They're awesome, and that's good enough. If I was born with a pussy, I wouldn't on on a forum that caters to closet cases and transbian weirdos. lol Trust me. My life would've been COMPLETELY different.

But "woulda, coulda, shoulda". Who gives a shit at this point.

Nicole Dupre
10-15-2011, 03:12 AM
The OP is DISTURBED; another mid-life crisis fruit loop. He shoulda lived as a woman as much as possible his whole damn life if it meant so much to him. He shoulda been a big fucking sissy 24/7; not waiting for a TS GF to live vicariously through. I can't stand these dudes who ARE DUDES, and then get a brain storm when they're bored. Man up and be a faggot if you like it in the ass. What do you need to hear our stories for if you supposedly dated a TS who fucks you like a woman? Go read Fictionmania if you need more masturbation material. It's none of your damn business what we went through. This is a porn forum FFS.

EvonRose
10-15-2011, 03:41 AM
Oh wow! very outspoken woman, what is your zodiac sign Nicole?

Nicole Dupre
10-15-2011, 03:42 AM
Capricorn, like Jesus. lol

EvonRose
10-15-2011, 03:43 AM
My favorite aunt is a cap and she says it like it is.. lol, very endearing actually.

Nicole Dupre
10-15-2011, 03:57 AM
I'd rather just be honest, and let other people decide what to do about it. :D

SirCumsAlot
10-15-2011, 05:49 AM
I still want SRS.

just take alot of painkillers, tie a very tight rubberband around ur cock till it goes gangrene, then chop it off with a pair of scissors

Ponyboy
10-15-2011, 07:30 AM
Nicole Dupre, you are being aggressive, not honest. I always find it funny when someone who expects people to be tolerent of transgenders show no tolerence to other people.

For the record, I dont relate to any gender at the moment. I never feel masculine. I often feel feminine, but all in all, I dont relate to any gender.

Ponyboy
10-15-2011, 07:33 AM
Ah, I just worked out why Nicole is so aggressive.

I linked femininity to the sex act saying males penetrate. Nicole likes to penetrate which would make most mammels male.

EvonRose
10-15-2011, 02:22 PM
Nicole Dupre, you are being aggressive, not honest. I always find it funny when someone who expects people to be tolerent of transgenders show no tolerence to other people.

For the record, I dont relate to any gender at the moment. I never feel masculine. I often feel feminine, but all in all, I dont relate to any gender.


Just to be clear... men can have feminine spirit as well but would never consider themselves women, being a woman is being an entity a spirit that resembles not just femininity but spiritually and mentally.

Prospero
10-15-2011, 02:24 PM
just take alot of painkillers, tie a very tight rubberband around ur cock till it goes gangrene, then chop it off with a pair of scissors

Not funny old chap

EvonRose
10-15-2011, 02:33 PM
Not funny old chap

Lol...

BigDF
10-15-2011, 06:06 PM
Ah, I just worked out why Nicole is so aggressive.

I linked femininity to the sex act saying males penetrate. Nicole likes to penetrate which would make most mammels male.Not only is that an insult to Nicole as a person, it is an ignorant conclusion. Nicole is aggressive because she is a dominant and she has to be in control. Ever hear of female domination (femdom) Femdoms like to penetrate and no one would mistake one for being male. If you really want to learn about the third sex go here:
http://www.transsexual.org/ :geek:


Just to be clear... men can have feminine spirit as well but would never consider themselves women, being a woman is being an entity a spirit that resembles not just femininity but spiritually and mentally.Thank you, wise woman. You really are an old soul and I mean that in the best possible way.:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

EvonRose
10-15-2011, 06:47 PM
Not only is that an insult to Nicole as a person, it is an ignorant conclusion. Nicole is aggressive because she is a dominant and she has to be in control. Ever hear of female domination (femdom) Femdoms like to penetrate and no one would mistake one for being male. If you really want to learn about the third sex go here:
http://www.transsexual.org/ :geek:

Thank you, wise woman. You really are an old soul and I mean that in the best possible way.:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:


That is true, but however remember femdom is only porn fetish most femdoms who do porn are usually still bottoms or females in relationship, Nicole might be a femdom in fetish but still a woman in relastionship or normal life, as I am i am a dominatrix by day housewife at night... alter egos. And thank you df just thought i put my input.

ed_jaxon
10-15-2011, 08:58 PM
That is true, but however remember femdom is only porn fetish most femdoms who do porn are usually still bottoms or females in relationship, Nicole might be a femdom in fetish but still a woman in relastionship or normal life, as I am i am a dominatrix by day housewife at night... alter egos. And thank you df just thought i put my input.

I know there is a small fetish out there for fifties housewives. The thought of coming home to Evon Rose in an apron with a martini in her hand is hot.

Hell, the simple thought of her in any scenario is hot.

Ponyboy
10-15-2011, 09:03 PM
A lot of the girls here have talked about having dolls as a child. That is sure-fire sign of feminity and psychological studiues have linked it to the nurturing of children - the classical female trait.

Some girls have talked about not wanting their cock - that also makes sense for a female who no longer idetifiies with it (or uses it for sex).

I mentioned my desire to have cock inside me and to have children - I would have thought this was pretty normal feminine thought.

BigD you think I insulted Nicole - I think you need to read what she said about me first. And in all honesty, if she doesnt identify with the feminine traits I identified, she should deal with her own issues without getting aggressive.

EvonRose
10-15-2011, 09:08 PM
I know there is a small fetish out there for fifties housewives. The thought of coming home to Evon Rose in an apron with a martini in her hand is hot.

Hell, the simple thought of her in any scenario is hot.

Thank you ed!!! Being a housewife is a def something for me int he future, but not the fat types.

BigDF
10-15-2011, 11:11 PM
A lot of the girls here have talked about having dolls as a child. That is sure-fire sign of feminity and psychological studiues have linked it to the nurturing of children - the classical female trait.

Some girls have talked about not wanting their cock - that also makes sense for a female who no longer idetifiies with it (or uses it for sex).

I mentioned my desire to have cock inside me and to have children - I would have thought this was pretty normal feminine thought.

BigD you think I insulted Nicole - I think you need to read what she said about me first. And in all honesty, if she doesnt identify with the feminine traits I identified, she should deal with her own issues without getting aggressive.Ponyboy I did read what she said about you and I can see where you would take that as something of an insult, but it seems to me that you're not willing to learn about GID and transsexuality. Follow the link I posted and then come back and talk about this. Wanting to play with dolls as a child is not a sure-fire sign of feminity because a lot of boys play with dolls too. GIJoe initially was a doll long before he became an action figure.

You say you don't identify with any gender then you probably should seek some professional help. :geek:

Nicole Dupre
10-16-2011, 02:14 AM
Nicole Dupre, you are being aggressive, not honest. I always find it funny when someone who expects people to be tolerent of transgenders show no tolerence to other people.

For the record, I dont relate to any gender at the moment. I never feel masculine. I often feel feminine, but all in all, I dont relate to any gender.
No. I'm offended that you come to a shemale porn forum of all places, and that you ask professional sex workers to share intimate details about their transitions. For all we know, you're just some freak like natina.

Then you tell us that cuz your tranny GF fucks you in the ass, that makes you "feminine"? So I guess you let her do it because she's masculine? Based on "mammal behavior"? You're either STUPID or OFFENSIVE or BOTH.

And then you have the fucking NERVE, after what I'VE been through in life, to expect me to patronize you for blurting out you feel like woman? And you assume that you know what I get off on sexually? That's almost as priceless as it gets. I don't prefer to top anyone, jerkoff. I never even tried it until I was an escort. Is that the kind of info you want here, asshole? And I actually only enjoy receiving oral. Is that what you need to know? And when I do get oral, I have to imagine that my pussy is getting eaten out or I'll go limp. I only top men when I consider them to be FAGGOTS and I resent them. So SCREW YOU and your weak story, you pervert. That's what you wanted to hear about huh? Well fuck you, Mr Latent Feminine Transbian Asshole.

Nicole Dupre
10-16-2011, 03:32 AM
A lot of the girls here have talked about having dolls as a child. That is sure-fire sign of feminity and psychological studiues have linked it to the nurturing of children - the classical female trait.

Some girls have talked about not wanting their cock - that also makes sense for a female who no longer idetifiies with it (or uses it for sex).

I mentioned my desire to have cock inside me and to have children - I would have thought this was pretty normal feminine thought.

BigD you think I insulted Nicole - I think you need to read what she said about me first. And in all honesty, if she doesnt identify with the feminine traits I identified, she should deal with her own issues without getting aggressive.
My issues have been dealt with. I'm well into my journey. I'm not on a TS porn forum struggling with something like whether or not I should stick with taking it up the ass from a TS, or being one myself. You need a shrink.

MdR Dave
10-16-2011, 03:49 AM
. . . Being a housewife is a def something for me in the future, but not the fat types.
LMAO!

Evon, you are awesome!

MdR Dave
10-16-2011, 03:52 AM
My issues have been dealt with. I'm well into my journey. I'm not on a TS porn forum struggling with something like whether or not I should stick with taking it up the ass from a TS, or being one myself. You need a shrink.

Cuts to the chase and cuts to the bone- the incomparable Ms. Nicole Dupre.

It always amazes me.

Nicole Dupre
10-16-2011, 04:05 AM
Ladies, it would be great to hear what you thought about before deciding to become a tgirl.

Half the men on this website adore Tgirls; the other half want to be one, and many members are a bit of both.

I personally put a lot of thought in to the transition but decided not to. I thought I wouldn't be convincing enough and my world would go though a significant change. However, I still think of it. Just yesterday, a young kid referred to me as a lady, even though I wear traditional mens clothes and I dont wear make up. I think I just have a feminine energy. My sexuality is definitely feminine and I would love to have a pussy instead of taking it up the ass.

I like the idea of becoming a woman so I can attract and take more men, but I wonder if that actually happens, besides I dont really have a problem now. We are all a little confused so it would be nice to hear some real life considerations.

No, Buffalo Bill. We are not all a "little confused". However, YOU are insane. Face it, own up to it, and seek help.

I won't even begin to explain why the rest of this reeks of heavy-duty retardation, mixed with faggotry.

Whpnspur
10-16-2011, 06:35 AM
Evon Rose. You are a rare find. Such beauty and intelligence. You take my breath away!

EvonRose
10-16-2011, 06:41 AM
Evon Rose. You are a rare find. Such beauty and intelligence. You take my breath away!



Thank you first of all of seeing my intelligence and thank you for complimenting me.... kisses

dderek123
10-16-2011, 07:30 AM
Cuts to the chase and cuts to the bone- the incomparable Ms. Nicole Dupre.

It always amazes me.

I call it getting Dupreed or Nicole Roled.

Ponyboy
10-16-2011, 08:09 AM
Nicole, you have the agreesion of a male, in particular a male juvenile.

Nicole Dupre
10-16-2011, 09:29 AM
Nicole, you have the agreesion of a male, in particular a male juvenile.
Uh huh...

I'll let you get back to chillin' with this kid, who supposedly thinks you're a woman even though you'd self-admittedly never pass as one. And later, I'm sure your manly shemale GF will fuck you in the ass, rub your lil' tummy, and help heal the emotional booboos I've inflicted upon you.

And I'll go back to Planet Earth, where I never get clocked, and I behave just like any other SANE WOMAN. Because trust me, if you spent an afternoon with me, people will all assume that I was born with a vagina and that I befriended a Martian.

Your opinions are laughable at best, and they don't count around here... EVER. In fact, go write that on the blackboard 1,000 times, put on the big dunce cap, and sit in the corner, you retarded fruit. This thread hit a wall, just like your life did.

Ponyboy
10-16-2011, 09:43 AM
Nicole, the level of aggression in your last post supports the comparison with juvenile males. Your actions are very similar to 'male posturing'.

Years ago, this website had many members and was fun, but all the tgirls started attacking one another and people got sick of it. They stopped signing in. No one attacked me back then, but I also got sick of it and left.

Recently, I thought I would come back and see what it was like, but it hasnt changed.

Nicole, scientists know what constitutes a female mammal and you do not have any of those characteristics. I think it's time to admit that you are cross dresser with in-plants.

Now you can respond by sending more insults but I wont read them. I wont be signing in again. I will join all those who got sick of the petty aggression.

dderek123
10-16-2011, 10:23 AM
^ Nicole Rolled into submission

Jericho
10-16-2011, 11:37 AM
Dammit. it's always the same around here.
The girls running the crazies off the board! :hide-1:

robertlouis
10-16-2011, 01:13 PM
Dammit. it's always the same around here.
The girls running the crazies off the board! :hide-1:

So how come you're still here then? :whistle:

Jericho
10-16-2011, 02:09 PM
So how come you're still here then? :whistle:

Because you haven't run me off! :razz:

Nicole Dupre
10-16-2011, 02:13 PM
Nicole, the level of aggression in your last post supports the comparison with juvenile males. Your actions are very similar to 'male posturing'.

Years ago, this website had many members and was fun, but all the tgirls started attacking one another and people got sick of it. They stopped signing in. No one attacked me back then, but I also got sick of it and left.

Recently, I thought I would come back and see what it was like, but it hasnt changed.

Nicole, scientists know what constitutes a female mammal and you do not have any of those characteristics. I think it's time to admit that you are cross dresser with in-plants.

Now you can respond by sending more insults but I wont read them. I wont be signing in again. I will join all those who got sick of the petty aggression.
"Scientists"? Like the ones who pee in the jar which has your misshapen brain in it? lol

"In-plants"? lol Someday a heel will be "in-planted" in your rectum.

Thank you for making it all so easy, "my pretty pony". I love watching dumb sissys become unhinged and proving all of my points for me.


http://www.kimsites.net/dreamvalley/graphics/p-pony&baby.jpg

giovanni_hotel
10-16-2011, 09:50 PM
All humans have both male AND female characteristics/genetic traits.

Men produce both estrogen and testosterone, as do women.

Ponyboy, I think Nikki e-lobotomized you. Wear a helmet.

saber
10-17-2011, 02:28 PM
All humans have both male AND female characteristics/genetic traits.

Men produce both estrogen and testosterone, as do women.

Ponyboy, I think Nikki e-lobotomized you. Wear a helmet.


Nicole does appear to have high levels of testosterone.

I am new here. Are these sort of attacks normal? and was the website different years ago?

Nicole Dupre
10-17-2011, 02:41 PM
Nicole does appear to have high levels of testosterone.

I am new here. Are these sort of attacks normal? and was the website different years ago?
"Does appear"? Really? Well not when actual doctors look at my blood, jackass. It's ridiculous how low it is. In fact, I had abnormally low testo before I took estrogen.

Shows what you you know. You're just intimidated by strong, outspoken women. And this ponyboy homo just wants to use pseudoscience to prove to us how natural it is for him to take it up the ass. And I bet you're the same type of fag.

Why don't you two get a room and take turns wearing the wig and lipstick?

saber
10-18-2011, 10:06 AM
This looked like it could have been an interesting stream and the girls who posted at the beginning had some interesting things to say.

No, Nicole, I do not take it up the ass like the other guy. And I'm not going to argue with you. I think that most rational people have better things to do than argue.

It is clear from above that you think having the last word is a sign of victory, so you can now have the last word and interpret it as a victory.

Nicole Dupre
10-18-2011, 10:44 AM
This looked like it could have been an interesting stream and the girls who posted at the beginning had some interesting things to say.

No, Nicole, I do not take it up the ass like the other guy. And I'm not going to argue with you. I think that most rational people have better things to do than argue.

It is clear from above that you think having the last word is a sign of victory, so you can now have the last word and interpret it as a victory.
Don't tell me what I'm interpreting. This loser strolled over here from Fagville spewing pseudoscience in a vain attempt to justify him taking it up the ass. And he's not talking this nonsense without being asked to back it up with a fact or two, when there are an infinite number of people genuinely dealing with GID. If you want to label me as a "freak", who was born with a penis and high level estrogen, I'm fine with that. That's the 'truth'. The blood tests don't lie.

But you're a FAILURE, who interprets the words of an outspoken woman as a high level of testosterone, and you're dead wrong. So I kindly ask that you shut the fuck up, and STAY shut up, if you can't prove something. That's MY last word on the subject. However, you can babble about whatever you like, when you like, for all I care. But you're not proving anything to ME. You can believe the earth is flat too. But someone will call you on it sooner or later, ...



















you faggot.

BigDF
10-18-2011, 11:11 AM
Nicole does appear to have high levels of testosterone.

I am new here. Are these sort of attacks normal? and was the website different years ago?That's fairly obvious, Saber. Attacks are quite normal here and part of the landscape. If you're the sensitive type which I doubt given your first statement, this is not the place for you. One of the things that gets me about this crap is the wording used "appears to have high levels of testosterone." What is this based on, because when I look at her nude shots, it looks to me like she doesn't have any balls in her bag.

I suspect you and Ponyboy have very little experience with women, because otherwise you would recognize Nicole for what she is(not intended as an insult, ND)a true ball busting bitch. It's a quality that find rather attractive, myself, not that I would be willing to place my tender parts in reach of her.:hide-1:

You talk about the attacks on here, then state the ultimate insult to a MtF transsexual? :yayo::yayo::yayo:

dderek123
10-18-2011, 11:30 AM
That's fairly obvious, Saber. Attacks are quite normal here and part of the landscape. If you're the sensitive type which I doubt given your first statement, this is not the place for you. One of the things that gets me about this crap is the wording used "appears to have high levels of testosterone." What is this based on, because when I look at her nude shots, it looks to me like she doesn't have any balls in her bag.

I suspect you and Ponyboy have very little experience with women, because otherwise you would recognize Nicole for what she is(not intended as an insult, ND)a true ball busting bitch. It's a quality that find rather attractive, myself, not that I would be willing to place my tender parts in reach of her.:hide-1:

You talk about the attacks on here, then state the ultimate insult to a MtF transsexual? :yayo::yayo::yayo:

You've spotted the irony in their posts. Now are they trolls, butt-hurt and trying to scratch back at nicole, or are they morons?

TsVanessa69
10-18-2011, 06:27 PM
when I was little my mother told me boys don't play with dolls, but mom was wrong

diablito
10-19-2011, 12:09 AM
when I was little my mother told me boys don't play with dolls, but mom was wrong

I'll play with you V... allllll night looooong!!! muah

tsadriana
10-19-2011, 12:11 AM
my story is ur story,

Jericho
10-19-2011, 12:46 AM
You've spotted the irony in their posts. Now are they trolls, butt-hurt and trying to scratch back at nicole, or are they morons?

I'm thinking all three! :shrug

saber
10-19-2011, 03:33 AM
Guys, it is hard for me to respond to you without engaging Nicolle and as I said above, I don’t wish to do that. However, you raised some issues.

The first issue is the hi-jacking of this thread. This thread started off very interesting and I note that other people commented that it was an interesting thread, and the girls seemed to enjoy talking about their experiences.

But suddenly, the thread changed and became a boxing ring. You guys know exactly what that change was. Nicolle started throwing insults and destroyed the thread for everyone else.

The second issue is the one started by Ponyboy. I can’t see anything wrong with looking at all mammals to determine what is feminine. I found it interesting and it seemed that some of the girls earlier experiences are consistent with having a feminine nature. If we don’t look at the biological nature of femininity, we are left to determine gender by social constructs such as whether they like women’s cloths, make-up and jewellery. Social constructs are not a good way to determine gender because they change. I don’t think Ponyboy did anything wrong. He may be a fag, but who cares?

The third issue is whether we should be allowed to criticise anyone’s femininity, something BigDF didn’t like. I think if a member attacks others, she has to expect it back, and Nicolle’s attack was pretty aggressive.

I have now had the chance to read more posts from Tgirls on this site and most have a sense of femininity about them. I don’t get that sense from Nicolle. You said she is a ball-busting bitch, but I thought she acted like a school-boy bully. She is definitely the least feminine tgirl on this website.

MdR Dave
10-19-2011, 03:46 AM
Going for SRS or just going to keep your mangina?

The topic was voyeuristic at best, by the way.

saber
10-19-2011, 05:02 AM
I have just noticed Nicolle has been attacked on another website. While this suggests she has a habit of up-setting people, I do not want to participate in a feeding frenzy against her.

Can we end this thread now?

Nicole Dupre
10-19-2011, 05:24 AM
I have just noticed Nicolle has been attacked on another website. While this suggests she has a habit of up-setting people, I do not want to participate in a feeding frenzy against her.

Can we end this thread now?
Why don't you jump into a wood chipper, and you won't have to read any threads?

giovanni_hotel
10-19-2011, 05:30 AM
Passive demeanor in a post doesn't convey 'femininity'.
How can you speak on any girl's 'feminine nature' that you don't know personally??smh

Nicole Dupre
10-19-2011, 05:42 AM
I not only like upsetting people, but I like driving men to drink. I like breaking shit too. :D

Bette Davis Is Disgusted By You - Of Human Bondage - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-ei7nM0us8)

ed_jaxon
10-19-2011, 05:47 AM
Leslie Howard was awesome!

saber
10-19-2011, 06:05 AM
By the look of her response, she's got a thick skin and can take it