Santorum: Google Is Discriminating Against Me Because I’m Conservative

[Ben]

Santorum: Google Is Discriminating Against Me Because I’m Conservative (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/09/20/324140/santorum-google-is-discriminating-against-me-because-im-conservative/)

By Igor Volsky (http://thinkprogress.org/author/igor/) on Sep 20, 2011



http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/16_santorum_190x190.jpgRick Santorum has long acknowledged that he has a “Google problem (http://www.google.com/search?gcx=c&ix=c2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Rick+Santorum),” but now he’s accusing the company of failing to remove this top search result (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fspreadingsantorum.com%2F&ei=IO14TsnqK6H00gGEqMXgCw&usg=AFQjCNHUJ7uIXHh3EGR7Hceo6bdqjPPWgg) from its search engine and discriminating against him (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/63952.html) because of his political beliefs:
“I suspect if something was up there like that about Joe Biden, they’d get rid of it,” Santorum said. “If you’re a responsible business, you don’t let things like that happen in your business that have an impact on the country.”
He continued: “To have a business allow that type of filth to be purveyed through their website or through their system is something that they say they can’t handle but I suspect that’s not true.”
Back in June, during an interview on MSNBC, Santorum specifically deflected responsibility from the company (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/06/09/240760/rick-santorum-on-his-google-problem-unfortunately-there-are-vile-people-out-there-who-do-horrible-things/), saying, “I don’t know how they treated other circumstances and other situations whether they’ve treated it any different than mine. I’d suggest if they had treated it different and have done things to stop this kind of vile activity, filth on the internet, they should apply it equally to me and to everybody else.”

[Ben]

Rachel Maddow Blocks Santorum's Attempt To Fix Google Problem! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO9ON7ZJozY)

[Ben]

Santorum decries bigotry charge [CNN 9-01-2011] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtGrPj7PH48)

[hippifried]

Hilarious!


biden (BI-den) n.
1. A small room who's occupants can't decide whether they're gay or not.
2. The smell of santorum in an enclosed space.

[NaughtyJane]

Bless Dan Savage for starting all of this. Rick is a whack job, bigot, sicko... and deserves public humiliation and censure.

[Stavros]

Rick who?

[Faldur]

Bless Dan Savage for starting all of this. Rick is a whack job, bigot, sicko... and deserves public humiliation and censure.

Come on, tell us what you really think..

[trish]

I think Santorum is a big, reeking, runny, spreading pile of santorum. It needs to be cleaned up and stored underground.

[NaughtyJane]

Come on, tell us what you really think..
I reserve what I really think for the special cases...

But I love the way sex columnist, activist Dan Savage nailed Santorum as a politician mixing up his fundamentalist religious views with his obligation to serve the general population. It is just a fantastic, well deserved prank. All his life, and his progeny immortalized for his bigotry... truly beautiful. Jesus would laugh at his misguided piety too.

Rick Santorum... since he believes in Hell... his corrupt, and contemptuous hypocrisy toward his fellow man will earn him an express elevator to his place of fear for all eternity. A well deserved fate, I wish him well there... maybe if it is crowded there will be cell mates? Like big, nasty gay ones from some far more brutal time in human history... Have fun Rick! Secretly I'm sure he'll love that outcome... after all, all homophobia is a compensatory behavior for latency.

[Ben]

What is wrong w/ today's Republican Party? I mean, it's inundated with crazies. Like Santorum, Bachmann, Perry.
I mean, in 1996 Bob Dole won the nomination. He would not be welcome in today's Republican Party. He'd be considered TOO far to the left.
Why? He's what's called a MODERATE Republican. I mean, even Bush Jr. is lookin' like a moderate compared to these people. And even Sarah Palin looks sane and reasonable compared to these three. (I, actually, hope Palin runs. She'll be a moderate voice.
But I hope Romney gets the nod, the nomination. He's fairly moderate. And he's not a bigot. But, sadly, he has to appeal to the crazies that make up a lot of the Republican base.

Ron Reagan Jr., Son of 'GOP Jesus' Excoriates Rick Santorum & The GOP on Marriage - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rliV6yx0Mfc)

[Ben]

Tool time: Santorum, contraception 'license' to do bad things in bed? - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-6Ww6vAJqs&feature=channel_video_title)

[trish]

Santorum has a lot of nerve running in the primaries. When my five year old niece asks, "Trish, what's santorum?" what am I supposed to say? I can't lie. I have to say, "Why dear, it's the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex." Her innocent response before running off to the safety of her bedroom, "Eeeeewwww!" Certainly Santorum is thinking only of his own political ambitions and not of the frothy effect of his well lubricated campaign on innocent children. And what's with the GOP giving him 25% in Iowa? Apparently it's more important to the GOP to oust Obama from the White House, then to protect our children against the frothy-values of ass-reamed homosexuals. For God's sake, THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

[Faldur]

Santorum has a lot of nerve running in the primaries. When my five year old niece asks, "Trish, what's santorum?" what am I supposed to say? I can't lie. I have to say, "Why dear, it's the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex." Her innocent response before running off to the safety of her bedroom, "Eeeeewwww!" Certainly Santorum is thinking only of his own political ambitions and not of the frothy effect of his well lubricated campaign on innocent children. And what's with the GOP giving him 25% in Iowa? Apparently it's more important to the GOP to oust Obama from the White House, then to protect our children against the frothy-values of ass-reamed homosexuals. For God's sake, THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

Hahaha.. touche'

[onmyknees]

What is wrong w/ today's Republican Party? I mean, it's inundated with crazies. Like Santorum, Bachmann, Perry.
I mean, in 1996 Bob Dole won the nomination. He would not be welcome in today's Republican Party. He'd be considered TOO far to the left.
Why? He's what's called a MODERATE Republican. I mean, even Bush Jr. is lookin' like a moderate compared to these people. And even Sarah Palin looks sane and reasonable compared to these three. (I, actually, hope Palin runs. She'll be a moderate voice.
But I hope Romney gets the nod, the nomination. He's fairly moderate. And he's not a bigot. But, sadly, he has to appeal to the crazies that make up a lot of the Republican base.

Ron Reagan Jr., Son of 'GOP Jesus' Excoriates Rick Santorum & The GOP on Marriage - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rliV6yx0Mfc)

Ben...Perhaps you can't see the irony in your attempts to tell us Ron Paul is sane and lucid, and Rick Santorum and Rick Perry are raving loons, or as you put it one of "those people". But before we get to that, Reagan had two sons, try listening to the other one for some balance.
I'm not here to tell you I agree with everything either Rick says on social issues, that's not my point at all....what I am here to tell you is that I'm getting the feeling you rarely encounter anyone who holds a different view than you on social issues, or at least anyone who can clearly define their reasons. Do you ever leave your enclave? It's a big diverse country out there, and the fact of the matter is more folks probably agree with Santorum and Perry than with you, yet you try to paint them as extreme. That's a big hit here, but down at the construction site or at the union hall...it's not gonna fly. Santorum was a very substantive member of the House and elected twice to the Senate in a State that more closely resembles the nationwide electorate than any other. It's a swing state...evenly divided with democrats and republicans. I get that you don't agree with him on gay marriage, but your attempt to paint him far out of the mainstream is misplaced and flatly wrong. He may be far to the right of you and Ron Reagan, and surely he's out of the mainstream here, ( but this is a fucking porn forum) and on most of the web sites you frequent for political fodder. I'm sorry to break this to you, but the majority of Americans...rightly or wrongly think that marriage should be between a man and a woman, that doesn't mean they hate you or any gay person, but you're free to believe that if it makes you feel better . My point is...you're becoming increasingly hysterical in trying to paint others as hysterical. I used to enjoy your posts, you made your point and your preference without malice. Now you've fallen right in line with the rest of the bomb throwers. It's a perfectly acceptable position to be for everything Santorum and Perry are against. It's not acceptable to paint them as extreme or hate filled when they both represented diverse constituencies and were re-elected for doing so. Santorum supported Arlen Spector who was extremely pro choice, and helped him get re-elected...and came from a heavily unionized State. Perry governs a State that has seen more population and job growth than any other, so if he's extreme...the word hasn't gotten out yet. What does that say to the good folks of Texas, or PA who felt comfortable enough to elect them both, then re-elect them? Are they wrong, and you right? Are you extreme....or are they?

[onmyknees]

Santorum has a lot of nerve running in the primaries. When my five year old niece asks, "Trish, what's santorum?" what am I supposed to say? I can't lie. I have to say, "Why dear, it's the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the by-product of anal sex." Her innocent response before running off to the safety of her bedroom, "Eeeeewwww!" Certainly Santorum is thinking only of his own political ambitions and not of the frothy effect of his well lubricated campaign on innocent children. And what's with the GOP giving him 25% in Iowa? Apparently it's more important to the GOP to oust Obama from the White House, then to protect our children against the frothy-values of ass-reamed homosexuals. For God's sake, THINK OF THE CHILDREN.


classy broad you are .

[trish]

classy broad you are .Classy expression there. Thanks.

[Ben]

Ben...Perhaps you can't see the irony in your attempts to tell us Ron Paul is sane and lucid, and Rick Santorum and Rick Perry are raving loons, or as you put it one of "those people". But before we get to that, Reagan had two sons, try listening to the other one for some balance.
I'm not here to tell you I agree with everything either Rick says on social issues, that's not my point at all....what I am here to tell you is that I'm getting the feeling you rarely encounter anyone who holds a different view than you on social issues, or at least anyone who can clearly define their reasons. Do you ever leave your enclave? It's a big diverse country out there, and the fact of the matter is more folks probably agree with Santorum and Perry than with you, yet you try to paint them as extreme. That's a big hit here, but down at the construction site or at the union hall...it's not gonna fly. Santorum was a very substantive member of the House and elected twice to the Senate in a State that more closely resembles the nationwide electorate than any other. It's a swing state...evenly divided with democrats and republicans. I get that you don't agree with him on gay marriage, but your attempt to paint him far out of the mainstream is misplaced and flatly wrong. He may be far to the right of you and Ron Reagan, and surely he's out of the mainstream here, ( but this is a fucking porn forum) and on most of the web sites you frequent for political fodder. I'm sorry to break this to you, but the majority of Americans...rightly or wrongly think that marriage should be between a man and a woman, that doesn't mean they hate you or any gay person, but you're free to believe that if it makes you feel better . My point is...you're becoming increasingly hysterical in trying to paint others as hysterical. I used to enjoy your posts, you made your point and your preference without malice. Now you've fallen right in line with the rest of the bomb throwers. It's a perfectly acceptable position to be for everything Santorum and Perry are against. It's not acceptable to paint them as extreme or hate filled when they both represented diverse constituencies and were re-elected for doing so. Santorum supported Arlen Spector who was extremely pro choice, and helped him get re-elected...and came from a heavily unionized State. Perry governs a State that has seen more population and job growth than any other, so if he's extreme...the word hasn't gotten out yet. What does that say to the good folks of Texas, or PA who felt comfortable enough to elect them both, then re-elect them? Are they wrong, and you right? Are you extreme....or are they?

We should all remember: Santorum is against pornography.... So, he'd like to ban pornography. What else would he like to ban? Abortion? Condoms? What else? He's a raving social conservative. I don't like that. (I, however, don't mind fiscal conservatives. If they actually practice what they preach.)
I support Paul's foreign policy agenda. However, I think his domestic policy positions are too radical. I mean, who's going to support it? Congress? Doubt it. The business community? Doubt it. Remember that Paul is steadfastly against bailing out corporations. Or the majority of the American people? Absolutely not.
America is a heavily polled country. Americans are to the left of both political parties. (Take, say, the public option. Most Americans were and are for the public option. Obama was against it. And so are the Republicans. Why? It's not "politically realistic." Which is code for: big pharma and the big insurance industry don't want it.
Most Americans want military spending cut. Most Americans want higher taxes on the rich and corporations. Most Americans want to be in a union. But ya can't say union. Because that word has been demonized. You say: do you want a say on how your workplace is run. And it goes on.)
The Republicans appeal to Christian Fundamentalists. (As I've said/written Romney is like Obama. Meaning he, like Obama, has zero principles, doesn't care about issues. They're complete and utter opportunists. Romney will say anything to get elected. Much like Obama. I mean, Romney is simply saying, What do I have to be? It's politics, it's theatrics, it's bullshit.
I believe Santorum is deeply religious, too religious for my liking. I've no problem with Christianity. But I prefer my Christians moderate. He's an extremist.
I mean, Romney isn't an extremist. Again, he's a moderate but HAS TO appeal to nativists trembling in fear and hatred, and to religious fundamentalists. That's the core of the Republican so-called Party. (As I've said before: I think both parties are ceasing to be political parties anymore. But they're by definition so-called "political parties" and need people to vote for them. And, with respect to the Republicans, who are those voters? Christian fundamentalists. Again, I've not problem with moderate Christians but I've no affinity or closeness toward extreme Christians. I couldn't and wouldn't be close friends with someone who is hateful toward gays, TGs, lesbians....

[onmyknees]

We should all remember: Santorum is against pornography.... So, he'd like to ban pornography. What else would he like to ban? Abortion? Condoms? What else? He's a raving social conservative. I don't like that. (I, however, don't mind fiscal conservatives. If they actually practice what they preach.)
I support Paul's foreign policy agenda. However, I think his domestic policy positions are too radical. I mean, who's going to support it? Congress? Doubt it. The business community? Doubt it. Remember that Paul is steadfastly against bailing out corporations. Or the majority of the American people? Absolutely not.
America is a heavily polled country. Americans are to the left of both political parties. (Take, say, the public option. Most Americans were and are for the public option. Obama was against it. And so are the Republicans. Why? It's not "politically realistic." Which is code for: big pharma and the big insurance industry don't want it.
Most Americans want military spending cut. Most Americans want higher taxes on the rich and corporations. Most Americans want to be in a union. But ya can't say union. Because that word has been demonized. You say: do you want a say on how your workplace is run. And it goes on.)
The Republicans appeal to Christian Fundamentalists. (As I've said/written Romney is like Obama. Meaning he, like Obama, has zero principles, doesn't care about issues. They're complete and utter opportunists. Romney will say anything to get elected. Much like Obama. I mean, Romney is simply saying, What do I have to be? It's politics, it's theatrics, it's bullshit.
I believe Santorum is deeply religious, too religious for my liking. I've no problem with Christianity. But I prefer my Christians moderate. He's an extremist.
I mean, Romney isn't an extremist. Again, he's a moderate but HAS TO appeal to nativists trembling in fear and hatred, and to religious fundamentalists. That's the core of the Republican so-called Party. (As I've said before: I think both parties are ceasing to be political parties anymore. But they're by definition so-called "political parties" and need people to vote for them. And, with respect to the Republicans, who are those voters? Christian fundamentalists. Again, I've not problem with moderate Christians but I've no affinity or closeness toward extreme Christians. I couldn't and wouldn't be close friends with someone who is hateful toward gays, TGs, lesbians....


We should all remember...Here's what Obama believed in....and promised


Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials

Allow five days of public comment before signing bills

Increase the capital gains and dividends taxes for higher-income taxpayers


Create a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners

End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000

End no-bid contracts above $25,000

Repeal the Bush tax cuts for higher incomes

Forbid companies in bankruptcy from giving executives bonuses

Allow imported prescription drugs

Double federal funding for cancer research

Change federal rules so small businesses owned by people with disabilities can get preferential treatment for federal contracts.


Require employers to provide seven paid sick days per year


Close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Center


Develop an alternative to President Bush's Military Commissions Act on handling detainees

http://static.politifact.com.s3.amazonaws.com/graphics/spacer.gif
Double the Peace Corps

Allow bankruptcy judges to modify terms of a home mortgage

And the list could go on for pages.....the point being politicians say all sorts of things before elected.....some of it they believe in, some of it because they think it's what you want to hear. However when they get elected to the sought after office, all sorts of realities and pragmatism
set in. Because Santorum may be personally opposed to abortion and pornography, as are many politicians at least in public.....doesn't mean they will or can force their views on you without widespread consensuses. I give you Mario Cuomo and Geraldine Ferraro. You fail to be able to comprehend that. Bush was deeply faithful, yet abortions were preformed at record levels, and billions were made by pornographers.
Ben...you're flat out wrong in most of your statements in this post. Most Americans are NOT to the left of both political parties. That a fallacy.
Obama was not against a public option....he caved because he needed to pass the bill. Big Pharma cut a deal with him. He's clearly for a public option. Sure Americans are for a public option...until you explain the cost and the details, then the results of the poll change drastically. Most Americans DO NOT want to be in a union. In fact...the opposite is true. Unions have been in decline for decades.
You seem to be a political schizophrenic. You decry Romney and Obama as having no principals, yet a guy like Santorum who lives by his faith and his principals, (and takes a heap of grief for it from guys like you) .....you loath. You're all over the fucking map.
I never really heard of a "moderate Christian". Is that one that goes to church on Sunday, and watches porn on Monday and frequents hookers on Tuesday? Or is that one who agrees with you on all the social issues? Sorry Ben..it doesn't work that way. You don't live your life to please them, and they don't to please you.

I think you should pick the 10 issues that are most important to you. Find a politician who agrees with 6 or 7 out of the 10 and support him/her, because you're clearly having trouble sorting it all out.

[fred41]

I support Paul's foreign policy agenda. However, I think his domestic policy positions are too radical.


Interestingly enough...to me, you have that backwards.

...I believe it is his isolationist foreign policy that is radical, if not outright dangerous.

[Ben]

Interestingly enough...to me, you have that backwards.

...I believe it is his isolationist foreign policy that is radical, if not outright dangerous.

What should America do? How should we handle China? Iran? Syria? Venezuela? Bolivia? etc, etc, etc.
How is, say, trading with Cuba dangerous... as Ron Paul advocates?
How is, say, not threatening other nations (which is a crime) dangerous?
As Paul has said: Iran poses no threat to the U.S. I mean, if Iran launched a nuclear weapon or weapons, well, they'd be vaporized.
But America can't continue to threaten nations, as Paul has correctly said.

Ron Paul On Iran And Israel - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QEkk2LJfXA)

Ron Paul: Cut Foreign Aid, Unshackle Israel, Leave Iran Alone - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwguHyXgbgM)

[fred41]

What should America do? How should we handle China? Iran? Syria? Venezuela? Bolivia? etc, etc, etc.
How is, say, trading with Cuba dangerous... as Ron Paul advocates?
How is, say, not threatening other nations (which is a crime) dangerous?
As Paul has said: Iran poses no threat to the U.S. I mean, if Iran launched a nuclear weapon or weapons, well, they'd be vaporized.
But America can't continue to threaten nations, as Paul has correctly said.

Ron Paul On Iran And Israel - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QEkk2LJfXA)

Ron Paul: Cut Foreign Aid, Unshackle Israel, Leave Iran Alone - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwguHyXgbgM)

He opposes practically ANY military action...but reality isn't that cut and dry. You don't think there is ever ANY type of intelligence you can gather that you may have to act on militarily to protect your country?

Why do you think we're still doing drone strikes?..You don't think something like that is EVER necessary to protect one's own country?

Never...ever ANY pre-emptive action under ANY circumstance?

Always keep ones head in the sand and wait for the enemy to come to you?

...that's a hell of a gamble to take in my opinion. We're talking about modern times. The enemy doesn't always come at you on horseback or in wooden ships anymore.

...and aggressors don't necessarily stay away if we keep to ourselves in a locked room.

[Ben]

I think we just caught Santorum in a lie.... I'm shocked. Politicians lie -- ha ha ha! :)

Santorum Denies Saying 'Black People' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnjEYcT6n-s)

Rick Santorum "Black people" comment - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dUqYnbS6m4)

[Ben]

Dan Savage takes on Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum on Real Time with Bill Maher - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV5CY-pJmPk)

[onmyknees]

I think we just caught Santorum in a lie.... I'm shocked. Politicians lie -- ha ha ha! :)

Santorum Denies Saying 'Black People' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnjEYcT6n-s)

Rick Santorum "Black people" comment - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dUqYnbS6m4)


Well you heard something I didn't . Are the race baiters blowing the dog whistle again?

[Ben]

Rick Santorum’s Most Outrageous Campaign Moments (http://thinkprogress.org/progress-report/rick-santorum-craziest-campaign-moments/)

By ThinkProgress War Room (http://thinkprogress.org/author/tpwarroom/) on Jan 5, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Rising GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum is presenting himself to national audiences as a common sense conservative senator from a Democratic state with both economic and national security acumen. A late surge (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/will-rick-santorums-strong-iowa-finish-lead-to-new-hampshire-surge/2012/01/04/gIQAgpB9aP_story.html) in Iowa led the former Pennsylvania senator to a near-win in that state’s caucuses and gave his campaign momentum (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/06/us/politics/santorum-courts-romney-territory-in-new-hampshire.html) ahead of next Tuesday’s New Hampshire GOP primary.
But on the road to his second-place finish, Santorum laid out some extreme positions on health, economic, and social policies. His conservative stances may have won him endorsements from anti-gay Iowa leader Bob Vander Plaats (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/12/20/392822/anti-gay-marriage-leaders-endorse-rick-santorum/) and other (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/287288/catholicvoteorg-endorses-rick-santorum-kathryn-jean-lopez) groups (http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2012/01/frcaction-all-but-endorses-santorum.html), but here are 12 outrageous claims (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/01/04/397355/rick-santorums-top-10-most-outrageous-campaign-statements/) that Santorum has made on the campaign trail that you should know about:
1) ANNUL ALL SAME-SEX MARRIAGES: Arguing that gay relationships “destabilize (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/12/06/383229/santorum-gays-destabilize-the-family-when-they-have-children-through-technology/)” society, Santorum wouldn’t offer any legal protections to gay relationships and has pledged to annul all same-sex marriages if elected president. During his 99-country tour of Iowa, Santorum frequently compared same-sex relationships to inanimate objects like trees (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/26/305068/santorum-marriage-is-like-a-tree/), basketballs (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/11/293560/rick-santorum-marriage-is-like-tea-not-basketball/), beer (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/09/292121/santorum-marriage-is-like-water-not-beer/), and paper towels (http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/08/frothy-mix-gay-marriage-is-napkin.html) and even tried to blame the economic crisis (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/10/12/341605/santorum-indirectly-blames-gay-people-for-poverty-at-economic-debate/) on gay people. As Santorum explained back in August, religious people have a constitutional right to discriminate against gays (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/05/289422/rick-santorum-religious-people-should-have-right-to-discriminate-against-gays/): “We have a right the Constitution of religious liberty but now the courts have created a super-right that’s above a right that’s actually in the Constitution, and that’s of sexual liberty. And I think that’s a wrong, that’s a destructive element.”
2) ‘I’M FOR INCOME INEQUALITY’: “They talk about income inequality. I’m for income inequality (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/20/393539/santorum-im-for-income-inequality/),” Santorum said during an event in Pella, Iowa in December. “I think some people should make more than other people, because some people work harder and have better ideas and take more risk, and they should be rewarded for it. I have no problem with income inequality.”
3) CONTRACEPTION IS ‘A LICENSE TO DO THINGS’: Santorum has pledged to repeal all federal funding for contraception and allow the states to outlaw birth control (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/01/03/396516/santorum-states-should-have-the-right-to-outlaw-birth-control/), insisting that “it’s a license to do things (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/10/19/348007/rick-santorum-pledges-to-defund-contraception-its-not-okay-its-a-license-to-do-things/) in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”
4) GAY SOLDIERS ‘CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN CLOSE QUARTERS’: During an appearance on Fox News Sunday in October, Santorum defended his support for Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell by arguing that gay soldiers would disrupt the military (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/10/09/339784/santorum-says-gay-soldiers-cause-problems-for-people-living-in-close-quarters-endorses-ex-gay-therapy/) because “they’re in close quarters, they live with people, they obviously shower with people.” He also suggested that “there are people who were gay and lived the gay lifestyle and aren’t anymore.”
5) OBAMA SHOULD OPPOSE ABORTION BECAUSE HE’S BLACK: During an appearance on Christian television in January, Santorum said he was surprised that President Obama didn’t know when life began — given his skin color. “I find it almost remarkable for a black man (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/01/19/177224/santorum-fetus/) to say ‘now we are going to decide who are people and who are not people,” he explained.
6) WE DON’T NEED FOOD STAMPS BECAUSE OBESITY RATES ARE SO HIGH: Speaking in Le Mars, Iowa in December, Santorum promised to significantly reduce federal funding for food stamps, arguing that the nation’s increasing obesity rates render the program unnecessary (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/12/07/383788/santorum-we-dont-need-food-stamps-because-obesity-rates-are-so-high/).
7) ABORTION EXCEPTIONS TO PROTECT WOMEN’S HEALTH ARE ‘PHONY’: While discussing his track record as a champion of the partial birth abortion ban in June, Santorum dismissed exceptions other senators wanted to carve out to protect the life and health of mothers, calling such exceptions “phony.” “They wanted a health exception, which of course is a phony exception (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/06/08/239111/santorum-calls-abortion-exceptions-to-protect-health-of-the-mother-phony/) which would make the ban ineffective,” he said.
8) HEALTH REFORM WILL KILL MY CHILD: Santorum, who claims that Obamacare motivated him to run for president, told reporters in April that his daughter Bella — who was born with a genetic abnormality — wouldn’t survive (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/04/26/172049/santorum-survive-bella/) in a country with “socialized medicine.” “Children like Bella are not given the treatment that other children are given.”
9) UNINSURED AMERICANS SHOULD SPEND LESS ON CELL-PHONE BILLS: During a meeting with the editorial board of the Des Moines Register in August, Santorum said that people who can’t afford health care should stop whining about the high costs of medical treatments and medications and spend less on non essentials. Answering a question about the uninsured, Santorum explained that health care, like a car, is a luxury resource that is rationed by society and recalled the story of a woman who said she was spending $200 a month on life-saving prescriptions. Santorum told her to stop complaining and instead lower her cable and cell phone bills (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/08/08/290934/santorums-message-to-people-who-cant-afford-health-care-costs-lower-your-cell-phone-bill/).
10) INSURERS SHOULD DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS: Santorum sounded like a representative from the health insurance industry when he addressed a small group of high school students in Merrimack, New Hampshire in December. The former Pennsylvania senator not only defended insurers (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/12/02/380582/santorum-insurers-should-discriminate-against-pre-existing-conditions/) for denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, he also argued that individuals who are sick should pay higher premiums because they cost more money to insure. And just this morning, he mocked President Obama (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/01/05/398330/santorum-mocks-obama-for-extending-health-care-coverage-to-everybody/) for extending health care to “everyone.”
11) HIS FAVORITE JUSTICE THINKS CHILD LABOR LAWS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL: At a recent GOP debate, Santorum identified Justice Clarence Thomas (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/01/04/397312/rick-santorum-picked-the-ethical-trainwreck-who-thinks-child-labor-laws-are-unconstitutional-as-his-favorite-justice/) as his favorite current member (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/12/16/390817/six-gop-presidential-candidates-want-more-justices-who-dont-know-the-difference-between-corporations-and-people/) of the Supreme Court, even though Thomas believes that pretty much everything violates the Constitution. Thomas has repeatedly advocated a twisted reading of the Constitution (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/10/16/345127/herman-cain-clarence-thomas-ethics-child-labor/) that would invalidate a long list of essential laws, including the federal ban on workplace discrimination, similar laws protecting older Americans and Americans with disabilities, the national minimum wage, national child labor laws, and the federal ban on whites-only lunch counters.
12) MUSLIMS SHOULD BE PROFILED: During the CNN national security debate in November, Santorum endorsed the idea of profiling Muslims (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/11/22/375162/cnn-national-security-debate-live-blog/) to increase airport security. “Obviously, Muslims would be someone you’d look at,” he told (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57330041-503544/rick-santorum-endorses-muslim-profiling/) the debate’s moderator Wolf Blitzer. But his proposed profiling for the sake of national security follows a pattern (http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/01/05/398688/santorum-islam-eradicate/) of his holding anti-Muslim beliefs.

[Ben]

OMK, and everyone -- :), there's a very interesting documentary called: American Feud: A history of Conservatives and Liberals.....

Is America Politically Divided? - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS6FwXOIoHw)

[onmyknees]

OMK, and everyone -- :), there's a very interesting documentary called: American Feud: A history of Conservatives and Liberals.....

Is America Politically Divided? - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS6FwXOIoHw)

Thank You Ben....But I will say we didn't need anyone to tell us what we already know.....all we need do, is look at this Politics and Religion forum. It's played out right here in our own little corner of paradise.....albeit the numbers here are not nearly as evenly divided as the country as a whole.

[Odelay]

Thank You Ben....But I will say we didn't need anyone to tell us what we already know.....all we need do, is look at this Politics and Religion forum. It's played out right here in our own little corner of paradise.....albeit the numbers here are not nearly as evenly divided as the country as a whole.

Not a big surprise. I think if you polled conservatives, at large, they would be much less inclined to relate to transsexuals than liberals. In fact, I'd say there's quite a few conservatives here given such a natural predisposition.

[Ben]

Rick Santorum's Anti-Marriage Rights Bull Session - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2-vO_yPiHI)

[onmyknees]

Not a big surprise. I think if you polled conservatives, at large, they would be much less inclined to relate to transsexuals than liberals. In fact, I'd say there's quite a few conservatives here given such a natural predisposition.


I don't think that's entirely wrong. It's simpler for a Buckley fiscal conservative with a libratarian streak to understand any one of the ladies on here easier than it is to understand Nancy Pelosi or Debbie Waserman Shultz. lol

[onmyknees]

Rick Santorum's Anti-Marriage Rights Bull Session - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2-vO_yPiHI)

Ben.....I'm glad you're plugged into the DNC despite your protestations that you're not affiliated. Well maybe you're not getting email directly from the DNC, you prefer a middle man like Think Progress or Move On or MSNBC...but you're obviously getting email alerts. The timing of your anti Bachman, anti Cain, and now anti Santorum rants are directly related to their rise in the primary polls. Hmmmmmmmm.....Not so independent after all are we ?? lmao

[onmyknees]

Rick Santorum’s Most Outrageous Campaign Moments (http://thinkprogress.org/progress-report/rick-santorum-craziest-campaign-moments/)

By ThinkProgress War Room (http://thinkprogress.org/author/tpwarroom/) on Jan 5, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Rising GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum is presenting himself to national audiences as a common sense conservative senator from a Democratic state with both economic and national security acumen. A late surge (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/will-rick-santorums-strong-iowa-finish-lead-to-new-hampshire-surge/2012/01/04/gIQAgpB9aP_story.html) in Iowa led the former Pennsylvania senator to a near-win in that state’s caucuses and gave his campaign momentum (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/06/us/politics/santorum-courts-romney-territory-in-new-hampshire.html) ahead of next Tuesday’s New Hampshire GOP primary.
But on the road to his second-place finish, Santorum laid out some extreme positions on health, economic, and social policies. His conservative stances may have won him endorsements from anti-gay Iowa leader Bob Vander Plaats (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/12/20/392822/anti-gay-marriage-leaders-endorse-rick-santorum/) and other (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/287288/catholicvoteorg-endorses-rick-santorum-kathryn-jean-lopez) groups (http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/2012/01/frcaction-all-but-endorses-santorum.html), but here are 12 outrageous claims (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/01/04/397355/rick-santorums-top-10-most-outrageous-campaign-statements/) that Santorum has made on the campaign trail that you should know about:
1) ANNUL ALL SAME-SEX MARRIAGES: Arguing that gay relationships “destabilize (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/12/06/383229/santorum-gays-destabilize-the-family-when-they-have-children-through-technology/)” society, Santorum wouldn’t offer any legal protections to gay relationships and has pledged to annul all same-sex marriages if elected president. During his 99-country tour of Iowa, Santorum frequently compared same-sex relationships to inanimate objects like trees (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/26/305068/santorum-marriage-is-like-a-tree/), basketballs (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/11/293560/rick-santorum-marriage-is-like-tea-not-basketball/), beer (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/09/292121/santorum-marriage-is-like-water-not-beer/), and paper towels (http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/08/frothy-mix-gay-marriage-is-napkin.html) and even tried to blame the economic crisis (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/10/12/341605/santorum-indirectly-blames-gay-people-for-poverty-at-economic-debate/) on gay people. As Santorum explained back in August, religious people have a constitutional right to discriminate against gays (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/08/05/289422/rick-santorum-religious-people-should-have-right-to-discriminate-against-gays/): “We have a right the Constitution of religious liberty but now the courts have created a super-right that’s above a right that’s actually in the Constitution, and that’s of sexual liberty. And I think that’s a wrong, that’s a destructive element.”
2) ‘I’M FOR INCOME INEQUALITY’: “They talk about income inequality. I’m for income inequality (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/20/393539/santorum-im-for-income-inequality/),” Santorum said during an event in Pella, Iowa in December. “I think some people should make more than other people, because some people work harder and have better ideas and take more risk, and they should be rewarded for it. I have no problem with income inequality.”
3) CONTRACEPTION IS ‘A LICENSE TO DO THINGS’: Santorum has pledged to repeal all federal funding for contraception and allow the states to outlaw birth control (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/01/03/396516/santorum-states-should-have-the-right-to-outlaw-birth-control/), insisting that “it’s a license to do things (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/10/19/348007/rick-santorum-pledges-to-defund-contraception-its-not-okay-its-a-license-to-do-things/) in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be.”
4) GAY SOLDIERS ‘CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN CLOSE QUARTERS’: During an appearance on Fox News Sunday in October, Santorum defended his support for Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell by arguing that gay soldiers would disrupt the military (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/10/09/339784/santorum-says-gay-soldiers-cause-problems-for-people-living-in-close-quarters-endorses-ex-gay-therapy/) because “they’re in close quarters, they live with people, they obviously shower with people.” He also suggested that “there are people who were gay and lived the gay lifestyle and aren’t anymore.”
5) OBAMA SHOULD OPPOSE ABORTION BECAUSE HE’S BLACK: During an appearance on Christian television in January, Santorum said he was surprised that President Obama didn’t know when life began — given his skin color. “I find it almost remarkable for a black man (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2011/01/19/177224/santorum-fetus/) to say ‘now we are going to decide who are people and who are not people,” he explained.
6) WE DON’T NEED FOOD STAMPS BECAUSE OBESITY RATES ARE SO HIGH: Speaking in Le Mars, Iowa in December, Santorum promised to significantly reduce federal funding for food stamps, arguing that the nation’s increasing obesity rates render the program unnecessary (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/12/07/383788/santorum-we-dont-need-food-stamps-because-obesity-rates-are-so-high/).
7) ABORTION EXCEPTIONS TO PROTECT WOMEN’S HEALTH ARE ‘PHONY’: While discussing his track record as a champion of the partial birth abortion ban in June, Santorum dismissed exceptions other senators wanted to carve out to protect the life and health of mothers, calling such exceptions “phony.” “They wanted a health exception, which of course is a phony exception (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/06/08/239111/santorum-calls-abortion-exceptions-to-protect-health-of-the-mother-phony/) which would make the ban ineffective,” he said.
8) HEALTH REFORM WILL KILL MY CHILD: Santorum, who claims that Obamacare motivated him to run for president, told reporters in April that his daughter Bella — who was born with a genetic abnormality — wouldn’t survive (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/04/26/172049/santorum-survive-bella/) in a country with “socialized medicine.” “Children like Bella are not given the treatment that other children are given.”
9) UNINSURED AMERICANS SHOULD SPEND LESS ON CELL-PHONE BILLS: During a meeting with the editorial board of the Des Moines Register in August, Santorum said that people who can’t afford health care should stop whining about the high costs of medical treatments and medications and spend less on non essentials. Answering a question about the uninsured, Santorum explained that health care, like a car, is a luxury resource that is rationed by society and recalled the story of a woman who said she was spending $200 a month on life-saving prescriptions. Santorum told her to stop complaining and instead lower her cable and cell phone bills (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/08/08/290934/santorums-message-to-people-who-cant-afford-health-care-costs-lower-your-cell-phone-bill/).
10) INSURERS SHOULD DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PEOPLE WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS: Santorum sounded like a representative from the health insurance industry when he addressed a small group of high school students in Merrimack, New Hampshire in December. The former Pennsylvania senator not only defended insurers (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011/12/02/380582/santorum-insurers-should-discriminate-against-pre-existing-conditions/) for denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions, he also argued that individuals who are sick should pay higher premiums because they cost more money to insure. And just this morning, he mocked President Obama (http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/01/05/398330/santorum-mocks-obama-for-extending-health-care-coverage-to-everybody/) for extending health care to “everyone.”
11) HIS FAVORITE JUSTICE THINKS CHILD LABOR LAWS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL: At a recent GOP debate, Santorum identified Justice Clarence Thomas (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/01/04/397312/rick-santorum-picked-the-ethical-trainwreck-who-thinks-child-labor-laws-are-unconstitutional-as-his-favorite-justice/) as his favorite current member (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/12/16/390817/six-gop-presidential-candidates-want-more-justices-who-dont-know-the-difference-between-corporations-and-people/) of the Supreme Court, even though Thomas believes that pretty much everything violates the Constitution. Thomas has repeatedly advocated a twisted reading of the Constitution (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/10/16/345127/herman-cain-clarence-thomas-ethics-child-labor/) that would invalidate a long list of essential laws, including the federal ban on workplace discrimination, similar laws protecting older Americans and Americans with disabilities, the national minimum wage, national child labor laws, and the federal ban on whites-only lunch counters.
12) MUSLIMS SHOULD BE PROFILED: During the CNN national security debate in November, Santorum endorsed the idea of profiling Muslims (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/11/22/375162/cnn-national-security-debate-live-blog/) to increase airport security. “Obviously, Muslims would be someone you’d look at,” he told (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57330041-503544/rick-santorum-endorses-muslim-profiling/) the debate’s moderator Wolf Blitzer. But his proposed profiling for the sake of national security follows a pattern (http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/01/05/398688/santorum-islam-eradicate/) of his holding anti-Muslim beliefs.



Ben.....appearently Ed Shultz didn't get the talking points memo.....please forward it to him !

( although I must say...the irony of Ed Shultz using the word "objective" reporting is rich )


Ed Schultz responds to liberal critics - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmeCLuhcf7s&feature=player_embedded)#!

[Silcc69]

So is Santorum your guy OMK? I have asked you who is your preferable candidate and you have never replied.

[trish]

To say that Santorum is "absolutely an ace at retail politics" does not negate any of the twelve points Ben posted above...they're all still absolutely true. BTW what's a talking point? We don't have them on this side of the fence.

[Faldur]

BTW what's a talking point? We don't have them on this side of the fence.

Really?

Talking point for Democrats (http://talkingpointsfordemocrats.com/)

[Silcc69]

Really?

Talking point for Democrats (http://talkingpointsfordemocrats.com/)

Heh heh funny stuff.

[trish]

Really?

Talking point for Democrats (http://talkingpointsfordemocrats.com/)Could you post some more, you guys are much better at dissemination.

[Ben]

Ron Paul, correctly, brings up Timothy McVeigh.
Just another hard right idea by Santorum....

Santorum supports racial profiling; Paul shocked - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZR8pWIjFj8)

And Paul states a crucial point, "Why do we prop up all their dictators?" And notice Giuliani didn't answer -- :)

Rudy Giuliani Defends Islam - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXcj0VDRKvQ)

[muh_muh]

Rick Santorum’s Most Outrageous Campaign Moments (http://thinkprogress.org/progress-report/rick-santorum-craziest-campaign-moments/)

what kind of country and political system affords clowns like that even the remotest chance to run for president?

[hippifried]

what kind of country and political system affords clowns like that even the remotest chance to run for president?
One that relishes its entertainment.
Who'd want to live anywhere else?

[muh_muh]

me me me me *hold up hands and snaps his fingers frantically*
i dont think anything could convince me to ever move to a political hellhole such as the the us

speaking of which is the name meant to be sarcastic? 30 years ago germany where i come from was more united than the us is today

[Ben]

Santorum controversy regarding homosexuality:

Santorum controversy regarding homosexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorum_controversy_regarding_homosexuality)

[BeardedOne]

If I haven't already weighed in on this: Google is not discriminating against him because he's a conservative. If they are discriminating against him at all it's because he's a moron.

[Ben]

If I haven't already weighed in on this: Google is not discriminating against him because he's a conservative. If they are discriminating against him at all it's because he's a moron.

I wouldn't necessarily call him a moron. He's just way too socially conservative for my liking. And he has made a lot of gay slurs in the past.

Rick Santorum's Moral Delusions (http://reason.com/archives/2012/01/09/rick-santorums-moral-delusions)

Is America really on a downhill slide?

http://reason.com/archives/2012/01/09/rick-santorums-moral-delusions

[onmyknees]

But alas...........there's a liberal antidote for Santorum ...Debbie Downer.

Enjoy !!


American Crossroads "Debbie Downer" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaYb389Y7OQ&feature=player_embedded)

[Faldur]

But alas...........there's a liberal antidote for Santorum ...Debbie Downer.

Enjoy !!


That can't be factual OMK, there wasn't one reference that it was all Bush's fault.

[Ben]

The entire Republican Party has shifted way to the right. (Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, if he were in the Republican Party today, would be considered way on the left... I mean, waaaaay on the left. It's an extremist political party. One that creates division; one that has very visible signs of bigotry.) Again, they have to please their base: fundamentalist Christians.
Ronald Reagan would probably be seen as a liberal in today's Republican Party.
I mean, I don't even think they're a political party anymore. (And, too, the Dems are moving in that direction as well.) Whereby they simply serve the super-rich. I mean, how can you be a "political" party if you're serving a fraction of 1 percent?

As Ronald Reagan's son says, He'd be unamused by the Tea Party folk.

Ronald Reagan Would Be 'Unamused' by Tea Parties, Says Liberal Son - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA06JwKRxyo)

And good ol' bigoted Rick says, "There's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military."

Rick Perry defends anti-gay ad 'Strong', says people should not have 'freedom from religion' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jb9HkcBPks)

[onmyknees]

The entire Republican Party has shifted way to the right. (Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, if he were in the Republican Party today, would be considered way on the left... I mean, waaaaay on the left. It's an extremist political party. One that creates division; one that has very visible signs of bigotry.) Again, they have to please their base: fundamentalist Christians.
Ronald Reagan would probably be seen as a liberal in today's Republican Party.
I mean, I don't even think they're a political party anymore. (And, too, the Dems are moving in that direction as well.) Whereby they simply serve the super-rich. I mean, how can you be a "political" party if you're serving a fraction of 1 percent?

As Ronald Reagan's son says, He'd be unamused by the Tea Party folk.

Ronald Reagan Would Be 'Unamused' by Tea Parties, Says Liberal Son - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA06JwKRxyo)

And good ol' bigoted Rick says, "There's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military."

Rick Perry defends anti-gay ad 'Strong', says people should not have 'freedom from religion' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jb9HkcBPks)


Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

Ben sometimes I think it's not worth what little effort it takes to correct you. You live on the far left websites, so even a moderate democrat like Slick Willie would seem like he just left a John Birch Society meeting to you. You lose all credibility when you say this....

" It's an extremist political party. One that creates division; one that has very visible signs of bigotry.) "

Don't you realize that removes you from from any reasonable discussion on politics, and puts you in the same category as Debbie Downer ? You know those commercials for attorneys where the announcer has to reveal he's not an attorney, but a paid spokesman. That's the type disclaimer you should be required to put on every post...
:screwy

[trish]

The entire Republican Party has shifted way to the right. (Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, if he were in the Republican Party today, would be considered way on the left... I mean, waaaaay on the left. It's an extremist political party. One that creates division; one that has very visible signs of bigotry.) Again, they have to please their base: fundamentalist Christians.
Ronald Reagan would probably be seen as a liberal in today's Republican Party.
I mean, I don't even think they're a political party anymore. (And, too, the Dems are moving in that direction as well.) Whereby they simply serve the super-rich. I mean, how can you be a "political" party if you're serving a fraction of 1 percent?

As Ronald Reagan's son says, He'd be unamused by the Tea Party folk.

Ronald Reagan Would Be 'Unamused' by Tea Parties, Says Liberal Son - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA06JwKRxyo)

And good ol' bigoted Rick says, "There's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military."

Rick Perry defends anti-gay ad 'Strong', says people should not have 'freedom from religion' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jb9HkcBPks)

Good post Ben. Spot on. :dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing:

[onmyknees]

Good post Ben. Spot on. :dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing:

I've rethought this....You're right. It was a "spot on" post by Ben. Certainly fact based ( and we know how you have an affinity for facts) free of supposition or hypothesis , provided incontrovertible evidence for his statements, and pretty much opinion neutral !! Yea....Right. Why don't you join Ben here:

[trish]

The entire Republican Party has shifted way to the right. (Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, if he were in the Republican Party today, would be considered way on the left... I mean, waaaaay on the left. It's an extremist political party. One that creates division; one that has very visible signs of bigotry.) Again, they have to please their base: fundamentalist Christians.
Ronald Reagan would probably be seen as a liberal in today's Republican Party.
I mean, I don't even think they're a political party anymore. (And, too, the Dems are moving in that direction as well.) Whereby they simply serve the super-rich. I mean, how can you be a "political" party if you're serving a fraction of 1 percent?

As Ronald Reagan's son says, He'd be unamused by the Tea Party folk.

Ronald Reagan Would Be 'Unamused' by Tea Parties, Says Liberal Son - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA06JwKRxyo)

And good ol' bigoted Rick says, "There's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military."

Rick Perry defends anti-gay ad 'Strong', says people should not have 'freedom from religion' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jb9HkcBPks)I forgot, did I say this was a great post Ben? Evidence based and accurate. Can't quote it enough.

[onmyknees]

I forgot, did I say this was a great post Ben? Evidence based and accurate. Can't quote it enough.


LMAO...

His evidence is no better than your "facts" ...which isn't saying much at all.



So for Ben....Take 8 minutes out of your busy day filled with trolling left wing web sites ( and then telling us you don't back either party), copy and pasting Glen Greenwald, and popping off to pictures of female impersonators and learn a little history. Then may you won't so foolish, or wosre partisan. And remember the last refuse of a liberal ( and you are one ) is the race card .

A VOTERS' GUIDE TO REPUBLICANS - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-oS4WLui3Q&feature=player_embedded)

[trish]

The entire Republican Party has shifted way to the right. (Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, if he were in the Republican Party today, would be considered way on the left... I mean, waaaaay on the left. It's an extremist political party. One that creates division; one that has very visible signs of bigotry.) Again, they have to please their base: fundamentalist Christians.
Ronald Reagan would probably be seen as a liberal in today's Republican Party.
I mean, I don't even think they're a political party anymore. (And, too, the Dems are moving in that direction as well.) Whereby they simply serve the super-rich. I mean, how can you be a "political" party if you're serving a fraction of 1 percent?

As Ronald Reagan's son says, He'd be unamused by the Tea Party folk.

Ronald Reagan Would Be 'Unamused' by Tea Parties, Says Liberal Son - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA06JwKRxyo)

And good ol' bigoted Rick says, "There's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military."

Rick Perry defends anti-gay ad 'Strong', says people should not have 'freedom from religion' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jb9HkcBPks)Gret Post Ben

[Ben]

Good post Ben. Spot on. :dancing::dancing::dancing::dancing:

Thanks Trish.

[Ben]

And it gets even more odd: Santorum's wife, at one point, dated an abortion doctor. Oookaay....

Gays 'Vilify' Rick Santorum, Wife Karen Dated Abortion Doctor - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ylS7ThxeOE&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=4&feature=plcp)

[Ben]

The YT title is a bit much. But... Santorum says: we have to make the best out of a bad situation. Again, too extreme for my liking.

Rick Santorum: Rape is a Gift - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaXmAZEzEwQ)

[Ben]

Rombo: Santorum Hits Romney Hard In New Ad - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJKzlIT-n6E&feature=relmfu)

[onmyknees]

And it gets even more odd: Santorum's wife, at one point, dated an abortion doctor. Oookaay....

Gays 'Vilify' Rick Santorum, Wife Karen Dated Abortion Doctor - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ylS7ThxeOE&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=4&feature=plcp)



Ummmm...but wait. I thought the spouses are off limits....but I guess we can waive those rules this one time for your particular agenda...huh Ben?
You tryin' your best Dan Savage imitation ? Shame on you. Leave the dudes family out of it.

[Silcc69]

rombo: Santorum hits romney hard in new ad - youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjkzlit-n6e&feature=relmfu)

lol!

[Ben]

Santorum's War on Porn - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6ROwk7srDI&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=5&feature=plcp)

[buttslinger]

Don't force my hand, Santorum! I need it to jerk off with.

[buttslinger]

I just sent Sean Hannity a tweet. ha ha ha.

[robertlouis]

There is just no way that I could picture a person with Santorum's views gaining major profile in a mainstream political party here in the UK, where the governing party, and the (Conservative) Prime Minister, have thrown their full weight behind legislation to legalise gay marriage at a national level.

It shows just how neanderthal and fundamentalist the right wing in America has become that someone with his views can become a credible candidate for office. *SMH*

[russtafa]

the labour party here won't back it due to supporters of the catholic church in the party but they still they are only resisting the inevitable in both parties

[Ben]

There is just no way that I could picture a person with Santorum's views gaining major profile in a mainstream political party here in the UK, where the governing party, and the (Conservative) Prime Minister, have thrown their full weight behind legislation to legalise gay marriage at a national level.

It shows just how neanderthal and fundamentalist the right wing in America has become that someone with his views can become a credible candidate for office. *SMH*

David Cameron wouldn't and isn't considered far right, is he???? The Republican Party continues to move further and further to the right to attract their base. Their base are Fundamentalist Christians....
America is a very religious country. Britain isn't. (And, too, the Republican Party is merely a Party that serves the interests of a fraction of 1 percent. Meaning the super-rich. Sadly, too, the Dems are moving in that direction.
And it has to be that way. Because one has to raise a helluva lot of money. And that money comes from the rich and the corporate/financial sector. Money, big money, is the key in American politics.
Every candidate has their billionaire backer. Obama has Penny Pritzker. Romney has the likes of billionaires John Paulson and Paul Singer. Newt has Sheldon Adelson. Rick Santorum has billionaire Foster Friess. And Ron Paul has billionaire Peter Thiel.
It's merely billionaires competing. Against one another.
This is our so-called democracy -- ha ha ha ha!
We have elections. But we do not have meaningful democracy.
Again, we merely have billionaires competing with one another.)

[Prospero]

Nope - there is a resistance here from catholics and some conservative protestants to the idea of Gay Marriage (actually calling it marriage. Civil partnerships have long been legal. My sister is in one) , to women bishops and a revived move against abortion. But nothing on the US scale. Don't forget most of the religious lunatics fled britain for the US long, long ago.

[Silcc69]

Santorum's War on Porn - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6ROwk7srDI&list=UU1yBKRuGpC1tSM73A0ZjYjQ&index=5&feature=plcp)

LOL if it were up to him and probably most of the GOP this very site would be outlawed.

[buttslinger]

It's merely billionaires competing. Against one another.
This is our so-called democracy -- ha ha ha ha!
We have elections. But we do not have meaningful democracy.

In Sci-Fi circles, the future earth will be ruled by a handful of all powerful corporations, and governments will just be like collectors of "condo fees"

[buttslinger]

There are many black evangelicals that are stone cold against gayness in any form. Maybe Santorum doesn't belong in a Sanitorium.

[hippifried]

Nope - there is a resistance here from catholics and some conservative protestants to the idea of Gay Marriage (actually calling it marriage. Civil partnerships have long been legal. My sister is in one) , to women bishops and a revived move against abortion. But nothing on the US scale. Don't forget most of the religious lunatics fled britain for the US long, long ago.
I think this is a typical misread of what's really happening here.
It's not that peope are crazier here, or that there's more fanatics per capita. What we have is competitive media at every level. It's all entertainment. Crazy is more entertaining, & sells. The louder & more fanatical you are, the more likely you are to get noticed & have your mug all over the tube. And of course when it hits the airwaves or cable here, it gets picked up by everybody else for the entertainment if nothibng else, & nothing else is what you see most of the time.

[buttslinger]

Money is Wall St. Elections are Madison Ave.

[robertlouis]

I think this is a typical misread of what's really happening here.
It's not that peope are crazier here, or that there's more fanatics per capita. What we have is competitive media at every level. It's all entertainment. Crazy is more entertaining, & sells. The louder & more fanatical you are, the more likely you are to get noticed & have your mug all over the tube. And of course when it hits the airwaves or cable here, it gets picked up by everybody else for the entertainment if nothibng else, & nothing else is what you see most of the time.

Hippi, I usually find myself agreeing with you, but in the case of Santorum, there's surely a real risk of America sleepwalking its way to its next President being a religious bigot whose ungenerous spirit would have gladdened the heart of Torquemada. Whether it's grandstanding for the media or not, the US is rapidly reaching a point where its right wing is starting to resemble in very profound ways the intolerant religious regimes that it purports otherwise to despise as backward.

The prescription is outspokenly anti-gay, anti-women, anti anything but their preferred religion. Now, who does that sound like? Oh yes, the Taliban. It is genuinely and deeply frightening.

[Ben]

LOL if it were up to him and probably most of the GOP this very site would be outlawed.

That's true. So people, particularly on this site, should think twice about supporting the GOP.
However, I don't think Mitt Romney or Ron Paul would champion the cause of banning pornography like Rick Santorum.
Romney, by all accounts, is a moderate. He seems fairly sensible and rational. But to WIN the nomination he has to appeal to the crazies in the GOP.
But when he captures the nomination he'll have to move back to the center to try and capture the support of the majority of the American population.
As well, too, if you study public opinion polls most Americans are social democratic. Even so-called Christian conservatives. Meaning they support increased spending on health and education and higher taxes on the rich. That's most Americans.
So, if we had a functioning democracy public policy would reflect public opinion. But, of course, we don't have a functioning democracy.
Plus we should understand that there's a stark difference between ELECTIONS (which we most certainly have) and actual democracy.

'Porn' Pledge: Republicans Santorum & Bachmann Sign Marriage, Anti-Sharia, Anti-Pornography Vow - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x29e_20bpmM)

[Ben]

Santorum's war on porn - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2bOqdCIZcw)

[Ben]

Rick Santorum Wants to Ban Pornography If He Becomes President - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ9_rSS5HHc)

[russtafa]

Americas religious right is insane ,our right in Australia could not give a fuck about religion and better not be seen to do it=our religion is the pub god bless beer

[hippifried]

Pornography tempts people into masturbating. Masturbation wastes the sexual energy & interferes with God's plan to overpopulate the earth. Porn is heresy.


This isn't about banning porn or a war on porn. Porn is just one aspect in the global war on fun. These fanatical goblin worshipers are hell bent (pun intended) on lmaking sure everybody's fucking miserable all the time. They might as well be the fucking Taliban.

[Ben]

2 Men Kissing Thrown Out of Rick Santorum Rally - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjh1UnHP3Dw)

[Ben]

Extremist Pastor Introduces Rick Santorum, Says Non-Christians Should Leave United States - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZxWnQ0oot4)

[Ben]

Santorum Hits Romney On Adviser's 'Etch A Sketch' Comment - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fvQbQysfdU)

[Ben]

"Rick Santorum" — A BLR Soundbite - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3BYcHmBhE&feature=related)

[GrimFusion]

If I wasn't afraid of offending half of the people who live in America, I'd almost say that Santorum's caucus and primary support is proof that our election procedures are fixed. Unfortunately, that speaks volumes about our red states.

[robertlouis]

If I wasn't afraid of offending half of the people who live in America, I'd almost say that Santorum's caucus and primary support is proof that our election procedures are fixed. Unfortunately, that speaks volumes about our red states.

That a guy can still be taken seriously after publicly stating that it's better to have a father in jail than be raised by lesbian parents says all you need to know about what's going on in the GOP right now.

[Ben]

Santorum bows out:

Santorum: The 'race for us is over' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ETTgkXmits)

[robertlouis]

I loved the tweet that said that Santorum can't quit his campaign - he has to carry on till full term lol.

[Ben]

Will he throw his hat in the ring in 2016...

Rick Santorum wages war on porn stars - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kufbVgzCUw)

[trish]

Hey Rick, you got a little santorum on your sweater vest there.

[Dino Velvet]

A religious fanatic that should not appeal to either side. Religion encourages our mind to be commandeered and controlled. As adults we can decide for ourselves and follow God how we see fit in our own homes even deciding if he has no place in it.

I went to Catholic School most of K-12 and they tried to enshroud me with their nonsense. The manipulation leaves in stages and I still have more to shed as long as I still look over my shoulder for The Devil.