Why Does Every Guy Say It's His "First Time"?

[Kayden Harley]

Why is that almost every time I talk to a guy whether it's a client, or a guy I'm actually interested in, he says it's his "first Time"?!

Then you meet with them and they're cock hounds who's dick taking skills are so sharp THEY should be the escorts..

Do guys think it's a turn on for us? Or do they even think it's believable?

Guys, we know we're not your first, and we know you like tgirls, we don't hate you for it so just cut to the chase... & CUT THE LIES!! :yayo:

[kylieam1]

Kayden why would anyone lie about that to you. You are so pretty I'd be honest from the start. For the record I'm a cock hound and love the dick

[IHEARTKALENA]

Lol.. I like your tattoo :)

[kylieam1]

yea i was going to ask did that hurt?

[Kayden Harley]

Kayden why would anyone lie about that to you. You are so pretty I'd be honest from the start. For the record I'm a cock hound and love the dick

Totally respect your honesty :)


Lol.. I like your tattoo :)



yea i was going to ask did that hurt?

Thanks! Yeah, it was a bit excruciating. Took 3 1/2 hours and was swollen for about a week. Couldn't even bend the tip of my fingers. But I really like the end result <3

[Erika1487]

Why is that almost every time I talk to a guy whether it's a client, or a guy I'm actually interested in, he says it's his "first Time"?!

Then you meet with them and they're cock hounds who's dick taking skills are so sharp THEY should be the escorts..

Do guys think it's a turn on for us? Or do they even think it's believable?

Guys, we know we're not your first, and we know you like tgirls, we don't hate you for it so just cut to the chase... & CUT THE LIES!! :yayo:

I had a thread about this kind of thing a couple weeks ago..http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=992483#post992483

Here is one of the worst of the closet hounds that emailed me lately....

From my yahoo email inbox.

Ihave never done any thing like this before, not that we have done any thing ,yet hopefully . this is kinda a new idea for me. but i do think your kinda hot and i love your titties i would be a lot less shy in person and i would deffenatly make sure we both had fun. i would love to here more about you and tell you more about my self, i suck at talking about my self. I'm 39 5'8" 220lbs been to prison 12 years am straight but willing to experiment . was in prison for drugs and guns. live with my mom and brother in the country i can't leave the state of michigan for 12 months. i'm into hunting and fishing and most out doors stuff. hope to here from you soon baby!

The sad truth is that "most guys" are just in it for the quick fuck & run.
That's why its best to charge by the hr!! lol
Don't get me wrong there are some decent men out there who really like dating trans girls, but they are far and few between :(

[MdR Dave]

Guys, we know we're not your first, and we know you like tgirls, we don't hate you for it so just cut to the chase... & CUT THE LIES!! :yayo:
My girlfriend had a hard time believing she was my first because I seemed comfortable with her, and was affectionate in public, and took her places where people obviously know me. Why wouldn't I? I've been going out with girls for decades and the distinction to be made in this case is in her head, not mine.

Not sure why people lie about this- but a lot of people do. As a teen I was "the first" for 6 girls.

Two of them bled! Statistically, most of the rest were lying.

[tommy001]

Why is that almost every time I talk to a guy whether it's a client, or a guy I'm actually interested in, he says it's his "first Time"?!

Then you meet with them and they're cock hounds who's dick taking skills are so sharp THEY should be the escorts..

Do guys think it's a turn on for us? Or do they even think it's believable?

Guys, we know we're not your first, and we know you like tgirls, we don't hate you for it so just cut to the chase... & CUT THE LIES!! :yayo:

Ha ha ha that's a good one! I laughed at you and the cock hound bit!!! That was funny,

[Kayden Harley]

Then you meet with them and they're cock hounds who's dick taking skills are so sharp THEY should be the escorts..


Don't get me wrong, I love a guy that can take dick (wouldn't have it any other way) .. But I'd just like it if he were honest about his preference.

[bulldog]

Honesty is one of the key elements in getting along period, you couldnt get along with anyone if they constantly lied, be it family, friend or stranger.


For the record though, if I were to ever say that, I wouldnt be lyin lol. Far as I have gotten with ANY girl regardless of reproductive organ is french kissin :/

[tommy001]

Maybe Kayden just has that effect on them to turn them into cock hounds? Could really be their first times.

[The Shika]

This typical statistic may be true, with "most" typical guys. It is a given that many typical guys will get ahead and lie to take advantage of a better situation. It's what makes everyone else, the other guys, look bad as a whole considering now we have to try harder.

I'm very honest with myself, and when I say it's my first time, I do mean it. I've already made a thread discussing about myself before. I'm a virgin, through and through. Have not done anything further than kissing, no tongue. I'm 22 years old, I have been with two T-girl escorts, but it never went further than 5 minutes of oral sex, and kicked out the door.

This is why I'm here in the first place, to see if I can find the right T-girl that provides a great experience, girlfriend material, and can have fun with what we're doing, instead of actually seeing it as another job to hurry and finish with. So personally, I would still consider seeing anybody a first time for me, since I can't even count those other two failures.

Don't know how much more honest I can be. I can certainly say I'm one of the few that are not in the category of "most" guys here. Believe me, I'm no professional cock hound that is actually good in bed, considering I still haven't gone that far.

[NaughtyJane]

Could be his first time... but I've had 'that guy' suck my cock like no bodies business. Throw my legs over his shoulders and put me through my paces... having fun I played along.... more times than I can remember actually.

I think it is fantasy, I think it is him getting into not being a homosexual, denial, a virile uber male allowing the trans vixen to strip him of his dreamed of heterosexuality.... it is a deliciously distorted kinky and bent psychological thing.

"First timers my specialty" always cracked me up!

[BigDF]

Kayden, it could be because you look very young and cute and they think that'll get them better attention that way. IDK, some guys just don't want to admit anything about themselves.

[Giana Evolee]

I really hate when a guy lies about being with other tgirls. I think there are still some first timers out there but if their hitting you up on here they are probably lying if they say it's their first time. Guys think that if they tell you that they have been with other tgirls that you wouldn't be interested in them. I rather them be completely honest, I would have much more respect for them. That is the reason why I rather meet guys in the street. Online dating never works for me.

[Kayden Harley]

Online dating never works for me.

I'm starting to feel the same way sis. :hide-1:

[tommy001]

Kayden like i said it's the effect you have on them. you can turn even the tamest to a cock hound

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I haven't had the pleasure of a 'special lady', to date. I'm ready, willing and able but, Pensacola is like, the middle of nowhere....plus, I have standards.

[BigDF]

Could be his first time... but I've had 'that guy' suck my cock like no bodies business. Throw my legs over his shoulders and put me through my paces... having fun I played along.... more times than I can remember actually.

I think it is fantasy, I think it is him getting into not being a homosexual, denial, a virile uber male allowing the trans vixen to strip him of his dreamed of heterosexuality.... it is a deliciously distorted kinky and bent psychological thing.

"First timers my specialty" always cracked me up!Gaaawwwwddd! Jane this post made my heart start pounding as the visions filled my mind....ahem, back to the psychological thing. I think you've got a very good point there. Most of the men I've known are very uptight sexually and dreadfully homophobic, especially when they are younger. Plus a lot of these fellows equate the size of their penis with the strength of their manhood and can't get themselves past that idea. (fortunately that's not an issue for me)

Kayden, I think if you asked genetic girls about this you'd find that the opposite is true for them. Guys tend to overstate their experience with genetic girls, especially to other guys, but sometimes to prospective lovers, as well.:)

[Kayden Harley]

BTW, Please say hi to my beautiful sister Giana Evolee.. She just joined the forum!

[BigDF]

BTW, Please say hi to my beautiful sister Giana Evolee.. She just joined the forum!Hello, Giana and welcome to the asylum. You don't have to be crazy to be on here, but sometimes it helps. :Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

[Jackal]

It has been awhile since I have had the pleasure of being with a transwoman but I am tempted to say it is my first time because it might explain my nervousness(I have social anxiety) and if I perform poorly. I have never lied and denied the fact that I have long had an attraction to transsexuals while talking with a transsexual woman.

[tommy001]

Hi Giana, just saying hi and welcome and hope to get chatting to you sometime

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Could be his first time... but I've had 'that guy' suck my cock like no bodies business. Throw my legs over his shoulders and put me through my paces... having fun I played along.... more times than I can remember actually.

I think it is fantasy, I think it is him getting into not being a homosexual, denial, a virile uber male allowing the trans vixen to strip him of his dreamed of heterosexuality.... it is a deliciously distorted kinky and bent psychological thing.

"First timers my specialty" always cracked me up!


Would you please come to Pensacola??!!:Bowdown::praying::praying::praying:: whistle:

[Giana Evolee]

Hello, Giana and welcome to the asylum. You don't have to be crazy to be on here, but sometimes it helps. :Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

Thanks for the warm welcome ! :)

[The Shika]

I've always thought I have no reason to lie, because there's a chance the girl could find me unique that I'm still a virgin.

Or, social judgement kicks in and they think you're a loser for never getting laid.

Either way, I'm used to it by now. Just know that haven't had any shape or form of experience with anybody, unless you wanna count 5 minutes of unsatisfied oral sex =/

[Kayden Harley]

I've always thought I have no reason to lie, because there's a chance the girl could find me unique that I'm still a virgin.

Or, social judgement kicks in and they think you're a loser for never getting laid.

Either way, I'm used to it by now. Just know that haven't had any shape or form of experience with anybody, unless you wanna count 5 minutes of unsatisfied oral sex =/

queue the violins: Sad Violin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIuotFZnBtk)


JUST KIDDING! Actually, it's really sweet if it's true. I hope your first REAL time is an awesome experience for you.

[IHEARTKALENA]

Well since were all being honest here.. I've hooked up with GG's but never with a T-Girl , so I guess when I eventually do it will be my first time..

[tommy001]

hehe just imagining some guys first time and Kayden spraying him mike a hose. Can't get this Kayden's hose spraying out of my head at all. Am i going mad???????

[tsnajwa]

Because guys sometimes want to make us feel special like we're some 'exception' to the rule that we're like the only transgirl they'd go out with.. when in reality it's not true. Atleast that's the reason a guy gave me when I confronted him.

[Stavros]

Because guys sometimes want to make us feel special like we're some 'exception' to the rule that we're like the only transgirl they'd go out with.. when in reality it's not true. Atleast that's the reason a guy gave me when I confronted him.

Close to my view: I would add it may be a subtle way of asking you to take control, to take him in harness, as it were and make him go down on his knees and stroke your legs and...I think you understand....

[maaarc]

Thanks for the warm welcome ! :)

welcome to the forum Gianna :):):)

[NaughtyJane]

Would you please come to Pensacola??!!:Bowdown::praying::praying::praying:: whistle:

I'm flattered, but in the exact opposite corner of the country.

Have often thought of Fla. being a cool spot for a exciting TS life...
have thought of just being 'Beach Girl' for a season there...
little apt. 6 months or so, leave before the locals figure out,
what a diabolical tart I am.
I'm actually very nice, just reluctant to be committed to relationships,
employment, other people's thinking... etc.
I suppose if I ever find a man that makes me laugh all the time,
and has a penis that puts me on that edge of fear, that needs virtually
constant attention... I might be tamed, for a while anyway.

Alas, I am all grown up, this is just home.
But Fla., U.K., and Australia seem to have grand crops of wonderful naughty, dirty men. Never been to any of them.

[Nashvegas]

I think this is kinda dumb if guys really do this, I assume that it would be a pain in the ass for the girl to have to sit there and baby some insecure guys ego and walk him through sex with a tgirl. Wouldnt they rather have someone secure in themselves to know what they like and have an idea how to please someone? At least thats what I'd want if I were them.

[tsnajwa]

I think this is kinda dumb if guys really do this, I assume that it would be a pain in the ass for the girl to have to sit there and baby some insecure guys ego and walk him through sex with a tgirl. Wouldnt they rather have someone secure in themselves to know what they like and have an idea how to please someone? At least thats what I'd want if I were them.

Yes, but also with guys with previous experience with transgirls usually comes with them telling me (without me asking) in detail every experience they've had with transsexuals and gg's. That really is a big turn off for me.. A gentleman should never kiss and tell.

[Silcc69]

I don't say shit really cause if a guy insists that it's his first time then 90% of the time he is lying his ass off. Then if they can suck the hell out of a dick and get fucked like a pro oh boy.

[mikelpo]

Cos they're not gay just 'curious'!!!!

[Nikka]

because men are retarded

[mikelpo]

because men are retarded

What she said

[kylieam1]

kayden your sister is very pretty as well

[Dino Velvet]

because men are retarded

she use r word.

[TSMichelleAustin]

Girl I love when they tell me its their first time and you look at their asshole and its more loose then anyones you ever seen! LOL!

[Dino Velvet]

Girl I love when they tell me its their first time and you look at their asshole and its more loose then anyones you ever seen! LOL!

Ever see a client who's hole is big enough to accommodate a wallet, keys, and a cell phone? Must be a little awkward as he reaches for the donation.

[TSMichelleAustin]

Ever see a client who's hole is big enough to accommodate a wallet, keys, and a cell phone? Must be a little awkward as he reaches for the donation.

Yes I have a regular who is like that! He has a fucking rosebud! LOL!

[TONY4378]

Hey Kayden.

Well, I think that question has many angles of interpretation!

For some guys it's as simple as "It amps up the fantasy side of their discreet little rendezvous."

It can be a way of increasing and ensuring the anonymity of such rendezvous. Even if only on a subconscious level for the client. Look at it as the client having an out of body experience.

For others it is a game of "cat an mouse." Many men feel they can coax out a little more affection (from a real pro) if they seem or portray someone who is timid and nervous.

When it comes to T-girls. Especially escorts who's job it is to control the situation, regardless of top or bottom play. Some can be easily swayed to be more accommodating.

Meetings between clients and escorts are genuinely tense by the very nature of the tryst. But when the "ice is broken" so to speak by the admission of inexperience on the clients side. Many T-girls get in to a comfort zone where (subconsciously) they assume the role of teacher.

Some let their "working girl" guard down and feel that they can work more comfortably because (whether true or not) the clients submission is a cry for help. Help that the client needs to overcome "societal pressures" to satisfy their desires.

Also many girls are on edge cause they are afraid that their new client may be a member of law enforcement. Hence the reason why the client is told to get "comfortable" (get naked) right away. This can be very intimidating to a client.

An honest client may be dishonest with their level of experience just to slow things down a bit. A way of maintaining control of their "manhood" right before it is taken from them. LOL!

Then there is the old double standard! Some guys just may be afraid to admit they are "sluts"! LOL! I know a lot of women who go through cornfields of cock for pleasure. But you would never know it if you laid eyes on them. LOL!

I hold nothing against any person male or female who likes to have sex a lot with a lot of people. To each their own!

Those are just some things I've noticed about the nature of meetings with escorts in general. Based on my own experiences as a newbie and my maturation into a true "cocks-man"!

I'm not really a "cocks-man", it's just cool to sit up straight and puff out my chest when I'm typing it. LOL!

I myself have never lied about my experience level. I feel honesty is always the best policy.

I have been with a handful of T-girls, well sometimes 2 handfuls. LOL!

Some of the ladies I've seen range from lesser known (but every bit as beautiful) Jordan from San Diego, Shakira from Las Vegas and Jamie Croft from Miami. Local New Jersey & Long Island girls like Babydoll & Dawn Marie. To world famous ladies like Jessica Host, Allanah Starr, Mia Fever and Johanna Bardin. Not necessarily in that order and with a few unknowns mixed in.

All of which I had great experiences with. Some made me feel like they came to see me. Others treated the encounter like work. Which, make no mistake about it, it is work.

Regardless all were kind, considerate, respectful and professional.

[Dino Velvet]

Yes I have a regular who is like that! He has a fucking rosebud! LOL!

So when he leans over he looks like a Beef 'n' Cheddar from Arby's?

http://www.grubgrade.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/beef-n-cheddar.jpg

[Jackal]

For those saying this is a guy thing, what about the girls who say they are virgins so their husband will be their first when in fact they have had sexual partners before?

[scroller]

My actual first time with a girl (considerably more experienced than me), she didn't believe it was my first time, either.

My top guess is that since guys masturbate, like, 100 times more often than girls, they're far more comfortable with their bodies, in a way that girls have a hard time recognizing.

[flabbybody]

because men are retarded
very true. and 2 other reasons why guys lie about being with a t for the first time:
1) most chasers can't come to terms with their cock obsession so lying to an an escort is self-denial
2) the dumb assumption that saying it's the first time will result in better service

[Nashvegas]

Yes, but also with guys with previous experience with transgirls usually comes with them telling me (without me asking) in detail every experience they've had with transsexuals and gg's. That really is a big turn off for me.. A gentleman should never kiss and tell.


That's pretty tactless of any guy to do with someone they start dating, whether its a ts or gg. I thought everyone knows talking about exes is a horrible turn off that no new person wants to hear about, guess not.

[Helvis2012]

Happens all the time.

[NaughtyJane]

Could be his first time... but I've had 'that guy' suck my cock like no bodies business. Throw my legs over his shoulders and put me through my paces... having fun I played along.... more times than I can remember actually.

I think it is fantasy, I think it is him getting into not being a homosexual, denial, a virile uber male allowing the trans vixen to strip him of his dreamed of heterosexuality.... it is a deliciously distorted kinky and bent psychological thing.

"First timers my specialty" always cracked me up!

You meet me in the cafe, small talk, invite me over.... "Well I'm not sure, It's my 1st time, don't know if I'm ready yet". That would be a laugh riot. You'd think I was kidding.... I mean, know i was kidding.

We grown ups have all sorts of secret agent intuition detectors working, I know pretty quick how things will go....eye contact, physical movement, speech - metering, choice of vocabulary... level of intoxication... I get my "Jane - a - thon 5000 sex robot girl" thing deciphering secret messages... He plays naive and innocent, me too. I never buy that schtick.

Hitting on me? he is all about running off to Naughty Jane's "Carnival of Sodomy". 1st timer? No. But I'll play along, if I'm down to begin with... but I always call attention to their expertise when things get busy... My little fun acknowledging my bad little man.

[mbf]

You meet me in the cafe, small talk, invite me over.... "Well I'm not sure, It's my 1st time, don't know if I'm ready yet". That would be a laugh riot. You'd think I was kidding.... I mean, know i was kidding.

We grown ups have all sorts of secret agent intuition detectors working, I know pretty quick how things will go....eye contact, physical movement, speech - metering, choice of vocabulary... level of intoxication... I get my "Jane - a - thon 5000 sex robot girl" thing deciphering secret messages... He plays naive and innocent, me too. I never buy that schtick.

Hitting on me? he is all about running off to Naughty Jane's "Carnival of Sodomy". 1st timer? No. But I'll play along, if I'm down to begin with... but I always call attention to their expertise when things get busy... My little fun acknowledging my bad little man.

Damn I am loving your posts. :salad

[giovanni_hotel]

Um, I think for most guys, it IS their first time.
Personally I know lots of guys who've never been with a T but it's for lack of opportunity, not desire.
Girls use the rationale that if a guy can give competent head, it must not be his first time.

That's crazy.

The first time I ate pussy, I knew what I was doing because I was obsessed with the thought of it.
Most guys, str8 or every shade in between are in love with their cocks on some level. They know what they like and don't like, and it really isn't that hard for a newbie to be 'good' at giving head his first time out the box.

How smart does some dude need to be to already know how not to give a blowjob without using his teeth??

I never told the chick who took my virginity she was my first, and I never told a tgirl either. But statistically IMO it IS the first time for most guys.

Being 'good' at giving head isn't really much of a tell, from my experience.
If a guy is about to go down on a TG for the first time, trust me he's been 'practicing' with his imagination for months.

[BigDF]

Um, I think for most guys, it IS their first time.
Personally I know lots of guys who've never been with a T but it's for lack of opportunity, not desire.
Girls use the rationale that if a guy can give competent head, it must not be his first time.

That's crazy.

The first time I ate pussy, I knew what I was doing because I was obsessed with the thought of it.
Most guys, str8 or every shade in between are in love with their cocks on some level. They know what they like and don't like, and it really isn't that hard for a newbie to be 'good' at giving head his first time out the box.

How smart does some dude need to be to already know how not to give a blowjob without using his teeth??

I never told the chick who took my virginity she was my first, and I never told a tgirl either. But statistically IMO it IS the first time for most guys.

Being 'good' at giving head isn't really much of a tell, from my experience.
If a guy is about to go down on a TG for the first time, trust me he's been 'practicing' with his imagination for months.Not disagreeing with anything you're saying here, GH, I think the OP's point was that when she got around to the bottom, there is evidence that someone else has laid some pipe in there. I could be wrong about that, as I often am.

Personally I think a guy is asking for trouble talking about his amount of experience with others when chatting up a prospective sexual partner. :)

[Jericho]

It because no matter what the situation, you chicks spazz out if we even admit to having looked at a tranny before! :shrug

Hey it's my first time...Honest! :whistle:

[scroller]

Not disagreeing with anything you're saying here, GH, I think the OP's point was that when she got around to the bottom, there is evidence that someone else has laid some pipe in there. I could be wrong about that, as I often am.

Dildo. Or makeshift substitute.

[giovanni_hotel]

Okay if a 'first timer' has a dilated asshole loose enough to insert your hand to the elbow, that' some crazy BS!!!lol

Otherwise, if I were a girl I'd just go with the flow.

My ass is virgin and it would break your finger off if you tried to penetrate.

[Jackal]

a guy who fantasizes about bottoming might practice with toys before his first time with a transsexual woman, though

[TheIChief]

I think (and I could be wrong) its because a lot of guys get spend so much time fantasizing about it that when they actually do it, it doesn't feel like they had hoped, hence still feel like a virgin.......or maybe that's just me

[Mz.Brownsugah]

Men lie, women lie if they ddn't noboby will ever get laid.

[SirCumsAlot]

I remember the first tgirl I sucked thought I was lieing about her being my first cock I sucked. I was just sucking her like how I would like to get sucked, and she loved it :wiggle:

[irishboi]

I used to say it was my first time but that was more because I felt a girl would be put off if she thought I had been with another TG before or that I'd just get labelled as a Tranny Chaser even if I had a genuine interest beyond sex.

[Kayden Harley]

I remember the first tgirl I sucked thought I was lieing about her being my first cock I sucked. I was just sucking her like how I would like to get sucked, and she loved it :wiggle:

Is that how you're gonna suck me too? :joke:


I used to say it was my first time but that was more because I felt a girl would be put off if she thought I had been with another TG before or that I'd just get labelled as a Tranny Chaser even if I had a genuine interest beyond sex.

It actually turns me off more when I get the "I've never been with a girl like you before" line. All I hear is "I've had miles worth of dick in me but I'm too ashamed to admit it" instead. To be honest, I really don't mind a guy that has been with other tgirls, I just want him to be upfront about it :(

[Stavros]

But most, if not all transexuals I have encountered, excepting hookers on the street, are most indignant if you, say, sit down in a coffee shop and realise the woman at the next table is ts: for her its like being clocked, for him, its an irresistible moment, but how should he play it?

Wink as if to say I know your secret?
just say hello, and hope for the best?
And what happens if she likes him anyway, and its the second option but when they get back to the room and she confesses, he says -its ok, I know...

[Beauty from Within]

Well for me it has to do with the fact that I have only been with girls (that is to say, girls born as girls). It feels sometimes like I am saying "I've only been with girls, never been around a cock before" like I have to justify everything. This is because it is not easy to be honest that you are interested in tgirls becuase suddenly you are not the same in anyone's eyes. I come from a very professional family/background/social standing so such things are definitely hush hush. It has nothing to do with religion, but when you have a title in society that carries weight and prestige, you unfortunately cannot be as respected as you were before people knew you were interested in anything but the opposite sex. It could even translate into losing clients, patients, and lots of money and even livelihood. This is a lot of pressure so even when talking to a tgirl, even on this forum where there is little danger, it is hard somehow.

I have wanted to meet a TS for a few years (I'm 25) and I don't know if I ever will find one, which is sort of sad because I am NOT the kind of person who is comfortable with craigslists and escorts because of STD risk. I have very few partners in life.

[SirCumsAlot]

Is that how you're gonna suck me too? :joke:



I'll suck u off until you burst in my mouth like a gusher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IH8tNQAzSs

[Kayden Harley]

I'll suck u off until you burst in my mouth like a gusher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IH8tNQAzSs

Hah! good boy :jerkoff

[TSCURIOUS]

I remember the first tgirl I sucked thought I was lieing about her being my first cock I sucked. I was just sucking her like how I would like to get sucked, and she loved it :wiggle:

That's funny - I did the same thing!! When I told her she couldn't believe it was my first time. I guess I did all right

[TSCURIOUS]

I remember the first tgirl I sucked thought I was lieing about her being my first cock I sucked. I was just sucking her like how I would like to get sucked, and she loved it :wiggle:

[QUOTE=Kayden Harley;999224]Is that how you're gonna suck me too? :joke:



Kayden - Yes - if given the chance!!

[Helvis2012]

Still, there's a first time for everything.

[buckjohnson]

I am a zero timer

[Helvis2012]

I am a zero timer



:whistle::whistle::whistle::whistle::whistle::whis tle::whistle::whistle:

[pittpanther2010]

I've never actually pursued such a desire so if and when I ever do, how do I say it's my first time?

[Rolando]

actually it would be my 1st time to be with a tgurl, although I have been with a few CDs. so I wouldn't be lieing to ya!

[irishboi]

But most, if not all transexuals I have encountered, excepting hookers on the street, are most indignant if you, say, sit down in a coffee shop and realise the woman at the next table is ts: for her its like being clocked, for him, its an irresistible moment, but how should he play it?

Wink as if to say I know your secret?
just say hello, and hope for the best?
And what happens if she likes him anyway, and its the second option but when they get back to the room and she confesses, he says -its ok, I know...


I have often wondered the same thing, like if I'm chatting to a TS in a nightclub should I just come out that I know the girl is a TS or play dumb.

[giovanni_hotel]

Chicks always prefer dumb or at least willfully ignorant.

[Absarokah]

Still waiting in AZ.

[Ryz]

Maybe they all have amnesia

[Marty Mcfly]

I don't lie My first TS was about 45 TS ago.

[mrtrebus]

I have never been with a tgirl so not got the chance to say its my first time, yet

[GrimFusion]

Why is that almost every time I talk to a guy whether it's a client, or a guy I'm actually interested in, he says it's his "first Time"?!

Then you meet with them and they're cock hounds who's dick taking skills are so sharp THEY should be the escorts..

Do guys think it's a turn on for us? Or do they even think it's believable?

Guys, we know we're not your first, and we know you like tgirls, we don't hate you for it so just cut to the chase... & CUT THE LIES!! :yayo:

What do you expect? Dudes will say about anything if it makes them look straight or a little more enticing. Would you rather hear "Yeah... I'm a man-slut. You're not my first. I was just with another transsexual three days ago"? It may be more honest, but that's just not the type of shit most dudes assume a chick wants to hear.

[tgurlvrnyc]

One of theses days, Kayden, I will catch up to you and be totally honest.

It will be first time.

(with you) :)

[canihavu]

Why is that almost every time I talk to a guy whether it's a client, or a guy I'm actually interested in, he says it's his "first Time"?!

Then you meet with them and they're cock hounds who's dick taking skills are so sharp THEY should be the escorts..

Do guys think it's a turn on for us? Or do they even think it's believable?

Guys, we know we're not your first, and we know you like tgirls, we don't hate you for it so just cut to the chase... & CUT THE LIES!! :yayo:


I used to say that because a few ladies I was interested in seemed to get mad when I told them I had been with trans women before. Therefore I started telling them what I thought they wanted to hear.

[Marty Mcfly]

Kayden you are way to cute to be a top..Now get that cute ass over here and Bend over!

[GrimFusion]

I don't lie My first TS was about 45 TS ago.

You should make me a list so I know who to avoid. I imagine I'd clash and conflict with any chick willing to put up with a repulsive dick hole like you.

Thanks in advance!

[Marty Mcfly]

You should make me a list so I know who to avoid. I imagine I'd clash and conflict with any chick willing to put up with a repulsive dick hole like you.

Thanks in advance!

Your Mother is a What man?

[Dino Velvet]

I'll see the same escort over and over still trying to convince her it's my first time.

[Marty Mcfly]

You should make me a list so I know who to avoid. I imagine I'd clash and conflict with any chick willing to put up with a repulsive dick hole like you.

Thanks in advance!

You must be a power bottom LOl..Do you wear wigs too?

[GrimFusion]

You must be a power bottom LOl..Do you wear wigs too?

It's good to know that you're mentally incapable. It's going to change the way I relate to you, man. It wouldn't be fair exploiting your handicap.

[ditadior]

kayds babes, i think that when they say its their first time to make them make you think they arent tainted and want you to relive their first fantasy.

or its the first time they have actually had the chance to be pleased lol.

[hippifried]

Butt it is the first time.

It's always the first time.

[tsadriana]

i dont beleve in guys who says is the first time...in bed is not like that ,for a first timer he is to good and i had that most of the time or i make him to good?

[Lovecox]

I always say it's my last time.

[ts_sunshine]

As an escort, the first thing I want to do when a prospective client calls is to find out who I am dealing with.

I will often ask if he has seen any other Tgirls before. It happens often enough that his answer is: "I've never seen a Tgirl before"

There are several flavours of this though.

There is the "TeeHee, no, I've never been with anyone before" - He wants me to treat him like he is a virgin. He wants me to convert him to cock. That means I'm going to have to be extra nice with him. Yah right. This guy makes me chuckle because it usually seems like he is acting like a girl. I don't mind that he is acting like a girl but it's funny.

There is the guy who cuts off my line of questioning: "No, I've never been with a TS." - he doesn't want me to know who he has seen before. This raises my suspicions. He has failed to establish trust with me and I am going to be careful.

There is the guy who is avoiding all my questions. These guys aren't clients, they're trouble.

There's the guy who says it's his first time but he knows all about everything when I ask him what he likes. He wants better service before we even get together and he thinks that I'll be better with a first-timer to make a believer out of him.

And then there's the real thing. His story makes sense. He is usually a bit shy about calling me. And when I finish with him, he's not a first timer anymore - he's a fan.

Be honest guys. It's a much better way to go. Escorts don't get jealous of you seeing other escorts. But they do want to know something real about you. It's important. An experienced escort will know you are lying and you won't get the gold star on your report card.

Sunshine

[buttslinger]

Do you validate parking?

[GrimFusion]

As an escort, the first thing I want to do when a prospective client calls is to find out who I am dealing with.

I will often ask if he has seen any other Tgirls before. It happens often enough that his answer is: "I've never seen a Tgirl before"

There are several flavours of this though.

There is the "TeeHee, no, I've never been with anyone before" - He wants me to treat him like he is a virgin. He wants me to convert him to cock. That means I'm going to have to be extra nice with him. Yah right. This guy makes me chuckle because it usually seems like he is acting like a girl. I don't mind that he is acting like a girl but it's funny.

There is the guy who cuts off my line of questioning: "No, I've never been with a TS." - he doesn't want me to know who he has seen before. This raises my suspicions. He has failed to establish trust with me and I am going to be careful.

There is the guy who is avoiding all my questions. These guys aren't clients, they're trouble.

There's the guy who says it's his first time but he knows all about everything when I ask him what he likes. He wants better service before we even get together and he thinks that I'll be better with a first-timer to make a believer out of him.

And then there's the real thing. His story makes sense. He is usually a bit shy about calling me. And when I finish with him, he's not a first timer anymore - he's a fan.

Be honest guys. It's a much better way to go. Escorts don't get jealous of you seeing other escorts. But they do want to know something real about you. It's important. An experienced escort will know you are lying and you won't get the gold star on your report card.

Sunshine

You're pretty smart. It's just kinda sad how some of your clients tend to think. It's not like you're asking dudes to produce a list of all the partners they've been with in the last six months. I don't have much respect for the kind of guys that cheat on their wives and girlfriends then try to keep everything on the down-low, but claiming inexperience kinda works against their favor, doesn't it? I mean, aside from the relatively minor trust issues, I'd suspect the sessions end up uncomfortable and a little awkward. Maybe I'm weird, but I'd rather get down with a chick who's honest and ugly than dishonest but attractive. I don't know if you always have the luxury of turning down clients you aren't comfortable with, but to me transparency is paramount to comfort with the women I choose to fuck. Without it, it's kinda a challenge for me to keep my head in the game.

"I've done this before, but go easy on me please" isn't synonymous with "It's my first time". The latter translates to "I don't know what I want" which I can imagine gets pretty fuckin' frustrating after a while. You'd think that these guys who are into switching it up and playing versatile would eventually get sick of the virgin-treatment. It may lend to a more comfortable session, but if I already knew what I was doing, my focus would be packing as much crazy sex into an hour as possible. Virgin-sessions move along too damn slowly.

It just blows my mind that a dude would pay up, then say something that works against his intentions and interests; especially when there's no harm in just being honest. Self-cockblockery, I guess.

[Prospero]

Ms Harley. I see you list London as one of your locations. Come here lady and I'll demonstrate that it is not my first experience and I promise yours will be one of our best yet.

[Nivek]

I'm sure there is many reasons why ppl say it's their first time, but Eff that. Why lie in the first place? If someone's going to lie about never being with a transexual Woman to begin with, that's just the tip of the iceberg. I'd rather say, "look, this is my first time with YOU, I've had some shitty experiences in the past but also some fantasic ones. Let's make this one the best for both of us, or at least try." If What I gave to having sex was given to everything else in my life I'd probably own a decent sized country, with ppl that would love me because I'd rather not lie.

[zulusierra]

It would be true in my case...

That being said, Miss Kayden, I just looked at yer website and the following is a visual representation of how enthusiastically I would hit dat...

http://i.imgur.com/lwB36.gif

[lifeisfiction]

Hmmmm, then again when I was younger and started having sex I was called bs on not being experience because people thought I was. I remembered my first tg experience, she thought I had given head before and was very skeptical it was my first time. I am not saying I am some dynamo, but some people can be good their first time.

[Kayden Harley]

Still waiting in AZ.
for?


What do you expect? Dudes will say about anything if it makes them look straight or a little more enticing. Would you rather hear "Yeah... I'm a man-slut. You're not my first. I was just with another transsexual three days ago"? It may be more honest, but that's just not the type of shit most dudes assume a chick wants to hear.

uumm.... Yeah, it IS what I want to hear... The last thing I want is some inexperienced 'virgin', who doesn't know how to please me, or who will freak out after he cums and realizes he just took a dick and a load down his throat...

Second last thing I want is a guy who can't admit he's been with other tgirls.. The minute a guy tells me it's his '1st time', I block him :-)


Kayden you are way to cute to be a top..Now get that cute ass over here and Bend over!

ummmmmm no.

[magicmost]

i say it for safety reasons 'cause a lot of girls are on viagra, kamagra or i don't know what and wil rape you after 5min if they think you're used to having sex with a man.

[Kayden Harley]

i say it for safety reasons 'cause a lot of girls are on viagra, kamagra or i don't know what and wil rape you after 5min if they think you're used to having sex with a man.

Having sex with a man is irrelevant.. I'm talking about guys who claim to never have been with a tgirl.

[magicmost]

Sorry Kayden, too much ganja.

[besttrannychaser]

Why? Because most TS's I know don't like tranny chasers so you either lie and fuck them or you tell the truth and don't. I guess with escorts it doesn't matter though, probably wouldn't tell them I been with 100+ ts's though, maybe just 5.

[Queens Guy]

The last thing I want is some inexperienced 'virgin', who doesn't know how to please me, or who will freak out after he cums and realizes he just took a dick and a load down his throat...

Second last thing I want is a guy who can't admit he's been with other tgirls.. The minute a guy tells me it's his '1st time', I block him :-)


Do you make that clear from the start when it comes to clients?

Some TS enjoy first-timers. Or at least say they do.

[Bryan86]

hahhahaha ..

well I guess because they wanna make sure that their partner knows how to deal with 1st timer ..

I'm planning to have my first time with a shemale in a few weeks .. and YES iam gonna tell her that it's my first time because as much as iam excited iam also freakin out that it might be a nightmare

also the most important reason is making sure she likes having sex with begginers .. as you said u hate it so being honest is a main concern

[ptyseminole]

It's a defensive mechanism...

[Kayden Harley]

Why? Because most TS's I know don't like tranny chasers so you either lie and fuck them or you tell the truth and don't. I guess with escorts it doesn't matter though, probably wouldn't tell them I been with 100+ ts's though, maybe just 5.

"It's my 1st time" is a dead giveaway that a guy is a tranny chaser. Any experienced tgirl knows that. And pretends to go along with your lie.


Do you make that clear from the start when it comes to clients?

Nope. A client is a client.. whether he's lying (which 9 out of 10 chances he is), whether he's experienced or not.. He's still a client. I do my job, I get paid and we're done lol.


hahhahaha ..

well I guess because they wanna make sure that their partner knows how to deal with 1st timer ..

I'm planning to have my first time with a shemale in a few weeks .. and YES iam gonna tell her that it's my first time because as much as iam excited iam also freakin out that it might be a nightmare

also the most important reason is making sure she likes having sex with begginers .. as you said u hate it so being honest is a main concern

but my point is that we ALREADY know that he is most likely lying. So what is the point of telling the lie in the 1st place?

[giovanni_hotel]

IMO it's rude to ask someone you're about to have sex with if it's their 'first time'.
Just another manifestation of TG insecurity.

GG escorts don't ask, don't care, and they assume that it's not your first time unless you volunteer that info.

[Kayden Harley]

IMO it's rude to ask someone you're about to have sex with if it's their 'first time'.
Just another manifestation of TG insecurity.

GG escorts don't ask, don't care, and they assume that it's not your first time unless you volunteer that info.

Actually, in almost every case, the guys state this within their 1st sentence. Almost every call, every email, every pick up line I get includes some form of "I've never been with a TS before". So It's safe to say that it's more of a manifestation of male sexuality insecurity (if that's even a clear term). I think the break down is something like this:

- 50% of the guys say it because they still can't wrap their heads around the fact that they're turned on by a person who like them, has a dick.
- 45% of the guys say it because they THINK it's what we want to hear, or that it will get them closer to getting in our panties.
- 5% of the guys say it because it actually IS their 1st time.

and yes, when escorting, it doesn't at all matter. We just want to do our job and get paid.

[BigBlackMan]

Why do you care? He's paying you cash to fuck him. Remember it's all about the money honey. You hate men

[Kayden Harley]

Why do you care? He's paying you cash to fuck him. Remember it's all about the money honey. You hate men

#1, this is now about men OUT of the escorting circle.
#2, I don't hate men at all. I'm attracted ONLY to men.

[giovanni_hotel]

I stand corrected, Kayden.
If this is a similar experience for TS escorts, it would annoy me too.
I think it's more honest for a guy to say he's 'inexperienced' instead of lying about whether or not he's been with another trans-chick before.

Maybe I'm naive, but I sort of believe for many guys, it probably is their first time. I have to think that number is more than 5%.

I know it doesn't seem this way on a board like HA, but TG women are rare, and TG women that straight men find sexually appealing IMO is an even smaller number.

[Kayden Harley]

I stand corrected, Kayden.
If this is a similar experience for TS escorts, it would annoy me too.
I think it's more honest for a guy to say he's 'inexperienced' instead of lying about whether or not he's been with another trans-chick before.

Maybe I'm naive, but I sort of believe for many guys, it probably is their first time. I have to think that number is more than 5%.

I know it doesn't seem this way on a board like HA, but TG women are rare, and TG women that straight men find sexually appealing IMO is an even smaller number.

Yeah, the bitch in me wrote the 5% line, I'm sure it's a bit more though.

[fastingforlife]

Unfortunately, I am too old to have too many "first times" at anything. But, I never want to seem too experienced at something that is "taboo". So if asked, I might say that I haven't seen a girl in nearly year, when in all reality, it may be a month.

[broncofan]

When men go to strip clubs, part of the appeal is the illusion. They know they are paying, but they still want to believe the attention is voluntary, even if the larger part of them knows it's not.

When they see an escort, they want to believe that the escort would sleep with them without being paid, but that they accept the money because that's the arrangement. So, I imagine they say it's their first time because it makes them more desirable, even if in reality the escort doesn't care one way or another. They also might believe that it will get them special treatment because the escort will want to give them a great first experience.

But you hit the nail on the head Kayden when you said you just want to do your job and get paid. I think that is probably the genuine feeling most or all of the time, but the clients are also paying for some element of fantasy. Even if they know what you said is true, they want to act and pretend as though it's not as part of the service they get. Just my take:tongue:

[GOLDENBEAR]

I think it's because somewhere deep inside he believes that the escort will think less of him if the escort thinks that he bottoms often. Bottoming, in greater society, is viewed as symbolic of femininity and weakness; and a man usually doesn't want others to think that of him. This is stupid, of course. But it's human psychology. Like when guys don't want a stripper they are chatting it up with to think that they hang out often in strip clubs (as if the stripper hasn't heard that one before).

I've been asked by TS's whether I bottom, and I shoot them a look like they are crazy. I don't. But why should I care whether they think I do or not?

[patty1000]

I am a TS Virgin, but live in Calgary, and think I want TS Sunshine to take my cherry...Just too shy to call her yet. :(

[realityt]

well when we met a few times i couldnt go through with it.. all we did we make out and ud suck me off..back when you used to live in midtown manhattan

[sheyum]

i think golden bear is right,,....its not the obvious.. "he cant face hes gay and attracted to a woman with a cock" shit... its more that you dont want to feel like a pathetic whore--chasing guy---thus it holds true for chasing t-girls...going to strip clubs..or seeing GG escorts..
the guy doesnt want to be thought of as not being able to get laid without playing...and of course...for many guys --its NOT that they cant get laid without paying...theyre just looking for something in particular...be it a Transexual...a woman other than their wives of G friends...etc..

but no one want to be perceived as a whore monger by the girl hes wooing...nor does he want to think of HIMSELF that way...

its not that big of a deal




I think it's because somewhere deep inside he believes that the escort will think less of him if the escort thinks that he bottoms often. Bottoming, in greater society, is viewed as symbolic of femininity and weakness; and a man usually doesn't want others to think that of him. This is stupid, of course. But it's human psychology. Like when guys don't want a stripper they are chatting it up with to think that they hang out often in strip clubs (as if the stripper hasn't heard that one before).

I've been asked by TS's whether I bottom, and I shoot them a look like they are crazy. I don't. But why should I care whether they think I do or not?

[sheyum]

I always say it's my last time.




thats funny!!!!

and--sort of true!

[Vladimir Putin]

Kayden, I don't know what guys you have run into but the only time I said it was my "first time" was 20 years ago.

[Jamie French]

I appreciate men who have experience and are honest about it. It means they know how to act and what to do. Men who claim that it's their first time immediately make me feel like I'm interacting with a boy rather than a man, or a skeezy liar who gets off on the idea, (or both.)

Even if it truly is a guys 'first time' it's a pretty safe assumption that he's been with GGs before and shouldn't bring up the subject of experience at all, as they are still fuckng a hole & mashing their body against yours. The fact that they'll be fiddling around with an extra dick thrown into the mix hardly qualifies the experience as something so far removed from their usual experience that it bares remarking upon.

[leomonster]

I used to say that. prolly every time inmy first year. But I dont any more. The girl will usually ask (if she's at all interested in the subject) have you ever been with a ts before, on the first phone call. to which I reply "yes" as if its no big deal cause its not really. Then sometimes they'll ask a follow up question along the lines of "so you know what to expect right" "yep I do" this will usually be the last time the subject is brought up. Ive found that Most girls (not all) are really pretty nice if you dont come off as a liar, Be honest on the phone and show up on time, Dont try to negotiate.
in short my attitude is, these girls got to deal with enough dicks without me being one!

[TJ347]

For the same reason everyone who contributes to the Shemale Stories section labels their contribution a "true story". :ignore:

[blackheva]

You look so beautiful Kayden :)

[Prospero]

Maybe they mean their first time today? Or this hour? or this week?

[Xcreet]

I've almost had a first time several times, but I get there and it's usually a fake or just downright filthy. So when I say it's my first, it would be my first experience. I've tried to have an encounter, because yes, I like you. It's just never happened in my shit hole of a town. Virgin butthole for the win.

[wiltthestilt]

Well my last time really was my first time. And I'm pretty sure the TS escort believed me since I didn't know what I was doing. But we didn't kiss, and I didn't top her (or bottom, but I don't do that), so I will still consider the next time to be first time part B.

[TatianaSummer]

"First Time" with you! LOL

[natina]

once they admit you or anyone is not he 1st.

they are labeled as TRANNY CHASERS.

LIKE YOU ARE DOING BELOW!



"It's my 1st time" is a dead giveaway that a guy is a tranny chaser. Any experienced tgirl knows that. And pretends to go along with your lie.



Nope. A client is a client.. whether he's lying (which 9 out of 10 chances he is), whether he's experienced or not.. He's still a client. I do my job, I get paid and we're done lol.



but my point is that we ALREADY know that he is most likely lying. So what is the point of telling the lie in the 1st place?

[natina]

I remember this girl was a virgin.
I took her virginity and I was the 1st person she gave head too.
she did a good job. I told her to swallow and she did just that.
she had lied to me about going to college and her age and everything.



What do you expect? Dudes will say about anything if it makes them look straight or a little more enticing. Would you rather hear "Yeah... I'm a man-slut. You're not my first. I was just with another transsexual three days ago"? It may be more honest, but that's just not the type of shit most dudes assume a chick wants to hear.


Um, I think for most guys, it IS their first time.
Personally I know lots of guys who've never been with a T but it's for lack of opportunity, not desire.
Girls use the rationale that if a guy can give competent head, it must not be his first time.

That's crazy.

The first time I ate pussy, I knew what I was doing because I was obsessed with the thought of it.
Most guys, str8 or every shade in between are in love with their cocks on some level. They know what they like and don't like, and it really isn't that hard for a newbie to be 'good' at giving head his first time out the box.

How smart does some dude need to be to already know how not to give a blowjob without using his teeth??

I never told the chick who took my virginity she was my first, and I never told a tgirl either. But statistically IMO it IS the first time for most guys.

Being 'good' at giving head isn't really much of a tell, from my experience.
If a guy is about to go down on a TG for the first time, trust me he's been 'practicing' with his imagination for months.

[SheWantsTheD]

There is a first time for everything. May not be the first time the person met a ts but it may be their first time paying an escort, or first time staying overnight, or first time being bottomed for example.