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TSPornFan
08-31-2011, 05:42 AM
Is Joey Silvera overrated? I think all of his work is bad and boring. In my opinion gonzo porn does not completely fulfill the fantasy. Any director can film gonzo porn. I don't see his work being any different than another producer's gonzo porn. Most gonzo porn has the same set up with questions before sex, during sex, after sex, and all 3.

If he made some roleplay videos then I would actually have something to judge him on based on the script, set, attire, story, etc. A lot more work is put into good roleplay scenes.

MrsKellyPierce
08-31-2011, 05:48 AM
I like Joey's work...

The scene I did with him was role play?

My man spent all of his money in Vegas and I punish him good :)

But there was acting..it was just the "punishing" lol

TSPornFan
08-31-2011, 05:55 AM
What scene did you do with him? What DVD was it? Was this recent?

MrsKellyPierce
08-31-2011, 06:04 AM
What scene did you do with him? What DVD was it? Was this recent?
No 2008 - I haven't seen a lot of his movies...

I think it was Shemale Roadtrip 14

TSPornFan
08-31-2011, 06:07 AM
No 2008 - I haven't seen a lot of his movies...

I think it was Shemale Roadtrip 14

This seems to be gonzo... It's just a preview.

http://straight.theater.aebn.net/dispatcher/previewPlayer?movieId=118804&sceneId=560528&theaterId=13992

MrsKellyPierce
08-31-2011, 06:11 AM
This seems to be gonzo... It's just a preview.

http://straight.theater.aebn.net/dispatcher/previewPlayer?movieId=118804&sceneId=560528&theaterId=13992
rofl omg how skinny I was then...

Yeah that was the interview portion...when I answer the door it was acting

Deimos
08-31-2011, 07:05 AM
I enjoy a porn with cheesy acting and bland story (Pirates for example)

but i'll settle for anything really. if the girl/tgirl is good lookin.

theone1982
08-31-2011, 07:29 AM
Well, his stuff has it's flaws, too much stuff going on, not enough of just a guy fucking a TS, but, it's hard to deny that he almost single-handedly took transsexual porn out of the dark ages.

tommy001
08-31-2011, 02:48 PM
I like Joey's work and put a lot of girls on the roadmap. I think he should be the next President

Nikka
08-31-2011, 02:51 PM
lol at the tags LOLL

SammiValentine
08-31-2011, 03:06 PM
Good scenes from what I have seen!!

I wish he was over here producing scenes and creating work for us Brits!

ah well. back to busking x

tommy001
08-31-2011, 03:11 PM
Sammi you busking!! No guitar but one hell of an organ! he he!!!

tommy001
08-31-2011, 03:15 PM
Yes Nikka some funny tags there.

Intrepid
08-31-2011, 03:38 PM
Overrated? Heck No! He DID put hundreds of girls on the map. I thought that when his Brazil connect, Fabio Scrpion, died, it was gonna be difficult for him to keep hooking up with fresh girls but that wasn't the case at all.

tsdvdman
08-31-2011, 04:32 PM
Definitely not overrated. He transcended ts porn almost single handedly and is the reason most "straight" guys got into shemales. However..like most ts porn producers he has become complacent in his productions and doesn't care what his consumer base wants to see anymore. The solo vids are all too predictable....a short interview and then the girl jerking off sitting down. No walking around,,show stuff,,etc

buckjohnson
08-31-2011, 04:34 PM
Sorry, but I am not a internet fiend, but I just figured out what tags were. I heard it mentioned before, always wondered what they were...now I know.

Thanks N

the_unnatural
08-31-2011, 04:50 PM
lol at the tags LOLL


You're right--they are hilarious. I never noticed the tags before Sunshyne mentioned them. Now it's the first thing I look at.

TSPornFan
08-31-2011, 09:40 PM
Overrated? Heck No! He DID put hundreds of girls on the map. I thought that when his Brazil connect, Fabio Scrpion, died, it was gonna be difficult for him to keep hooking up with fresh girls but that wasn't the case at all.

Who did he put on the map?

Using Brazilian girls causes more harm than good. Most people in America do NOT buy porn that features people they can't understand. This also takes away work from America T-Girls. NO other niche in porn takes away as much work from American T-Girls than Transsexual porn.

Bobby Domino
08-31-2011, 09:46 PM
Joey gets my vote.

tommy001
08-31-2011, 10:12 PM
There's one thing about Joey. He'll be the first one to buy the first round of drinks.

NaughtyJane
09-01-2011, 02:30 AM
Who did he put on the map?

Using Brazilian girls causes more harm than good. Most people in America do NOT buy porn that features people they can't understand. This also takes away work from America T-Girls. NO other niche in porn takes away as much work from American T-Girls than Transsexual porn.

I don't know what other people buy statistically, I am a consumer, I enjoy Joey Silvera's work, as well as the Reality Kings 'Tranny Surprise' series.

As a mere non industry observer, I think the T.S. porn industry in the States, where I live, tends to over expose the performers. I'll check the imagery, but most of it is not interesting enough to kick down cash for.

I picked up a dvd last month featured lovely, to me unknown fresh faced people meeting on a So. American beach and getting down there.... I love it.
I understand plenty what they are communicating about... and will certainly buy more from that line.

The American girls are gorgeous, I think they are professionally mismanaged, often placed in poorly produced entertainment products.
But what do I know? Except parting with cash.

TSPornFan
09-01-2011, 02:36 AM
I don't know what other people buy statistically, I am a consumer, I enjoy Joey Silvera's work, as well as the Reality Kings 'Tranny Surprise' series.

As a mere non industry observer, I think the T.S. porn industry in the States, where I live, tends to over expose the performers. I'll check the imagery, but most of it is not interesting enough to kick down cash for.

I picked up a dvd last month featured lovely, to me unknown fresh faced people meeting on a So. American beach and getting down there.... I love it.
I understand plenty what they are communicating about... and will certainly buy more from that line.

The American girls are gorgeous, I think they are professionally mismanaged, often placed in poorly produced entertainment products.
But what do I know? Except parting with cash.

I think performers are under exposed. Companies tend to film their contract T-Girls often on the normal sites outside of the owned sites that featured the contract T-Girls. You may see a few videos featuring one girl and then you won't see her for months or even years on the same site or company.

Schimmel
09-01-2011, 02:52 AM
As a mere non industry observer, I think the T.S. porn industry in the States, where I live, tends to over expose the performers.
I find that the gurls who are overexposed usually are of no substance, it's like they just took a guerrilla marketing course or something and put themselves out there aggressively, which of course is sad. I'd rather have one scene of a genuinely hot, cool, unforgettable low-key gurl, than ten scenes of an annoying trampy ditz who you can tell doesn't even work out.


I think performers are under exposed. Companies tend to film their contract T-Girls often on the normal sites outside of the owned sites that featured the contract T-Girls. You may see a few videos featuring one girl and then you won't see her for months or even years on the same site or company.
Maybe because that's all she wanted to do. Maybe she has a life outside of your stupid fantasies.

GroobySteven
09-01-2011, 03:14 AM
Who did he put on the map?

Using Brazilian girls causes more harm than good. Most people in America do NOT buy porn that features people they can't understand. This also takes away work from America T-Girls. NO other niche in porn takes away as much work from American T-Girls than Transsexual porn.

Who did he put on the map? Virtually every Brazilian transsexual porn star.

"Most people in America do NOT buy porn that features people they can't understand?" Can you show me where you got those stats please? Joey's DVD's frequently are best sellers and as somebody who has a bunch of sites with non-English speaking models, they sell very well IN America and the rest of the world. You just make shit up to support your own personal likes/dislikes.

"This also takes away work from American T-girls" - explain why you think this, and why is it even an issue. We shoot Brazilian Transsexuals.com and it would be hard to feature American girls in that. How could we put American girls in ShemaleJapan? Porn has a worldwide market not just the small market that orbits your bullshit.

"No other niche takes away ... I'm talking crap again" - again, where do you get these statistics from? Also, as above, why is it an issue.

One again Franklin, you are being a total tool. You get it into your befuddled brain, that Brazilian porn is bad and doesn't sell - and as you don't like gonzo porn, you decide to start a poll and topic "Is Joey Silvera over-rated". You say you don't insult people, well you do.

You need to find a new hobby, as a professional wanker, you are taking the role a little too seriously.

hwbs
09-01-2011, 04:44 AM
His stuff was the best selling of ea for years...and that's saying a lot cause there was a lot of great directors on there @ the time

OmarZ
09-01-2011, 04:56 AM
rofl omg how skinny I was then...

Yeah that was the interview portion...when I answer the door it was acting

you look much better with some extra meat on

OmarZ
09-01-2011, 05:00 AM
Who did he put on the map? Virtually every Brazilian transsexual porn star.

"Most people in America do NOT buy porn that features people they can't understand?" Can you show me where you got those stats please? Joey's DVD's frequently are best sellers and as somebody who has a bunch of sites with non-English speaking models, they sell very well IN America and the rest of the world. You just make shit up to support your own personal likes/dislikes.

"This also takes away work from American T-girls" - explain why you think this, and why is it even an issue. We shoot Brazilian Transsexuals.com and it would be hard to feature American girls in that. How could we put American girls in ShemaleJapan? Porn has a worldwide market not just the small market that orbits your bullshit.

"No other niche takes away ... I'm talking crap again" - again, where do you get these statistics from? Also, as above, why is it an issue.

One again Franklin, you are being a total tool. You get it into your befuddled brain, that Brazilian porn is bad and doesn't sell - and as you don't like gonzo porn, you decide to start a poll and topic "Is Joey Silvera over-rated". You say you don't insult people, well you do.

You need to find a new hobby, as a professional wanker, you are taking the role a little too seriously.

Well, Brazillian girls provided something that american girls could not, but market obviously wanted more of... variety, better stamina, bigger cocks, bigger asses

TSPornFan
09-01-2011, 05:12 AM
Who did he put on the map? Virtually every Brazilian transsexual porn star.

"Most people in America do NOT buy porn that features people they can't understand?" Can you show me where you got those stats please? Joey's DVD's frequently are best sellers and as somebody who has a bunch of sites with non-English speaking models, they sell very well IN America and the rest of the world. You just make shit up to support your own personal likes/dislikes.

"This also takes away work from American T-girls" - explain why you think this, and why is it even an issue. We shoot Brazilian Transsexuals.com and it would be hard to feature American girls in that. How could we put American girls in ShemaleJapan? Porn has a worldwide market not just the small market that orbits your bullshit.

"No other niche takes away ... I'm talking crap again" - again, where do you get these statistics from? Also, as above, why is it an issue.

One again Franklin, you are being a total tool. You get it into your befuddled brain, that Brazilian porn is bad and doesn't sell - and as you don't like gonzo porn, you decide to start a poll and topic "Is Joey Silvera over-rated". You say you don't insult people, well you do.

You need to find a new hobby, as a professional wanker, you are taking the role a little too seriously.

Wow! As usual you are never able to understand a thing that was said. I have not made up anything.

That's really great that he made every Brazilian Transsexual pornstar.

What are the standards for a porn movie to be a best seller?

I've been a member of many straight porn sites. And NO one requests for a chick who doesn't speak English. They don't care where she is from nor where the movie is made. They do care if she speaks English. The top straight and gay pornstars speak English. Neither niche takes away a large amount of work from Americans like transsexual porn. Read Below.

I really really wish you would learn how to read and think. Brazilian porn takes a way a lot of work from America T-Girls. No other niche does this type shit. There maybe five videos featuring an American girl, and a Brazilian girl may have 20 videos. The majority of transsexual DVDs feature Brazilian transsexuals. Again no other niche of porn does this. For example Reality Kings can easily shot American girls if they wanted to, but instead look for cheap labor. Reality Kings has no problem paying an America Female porn $2000 for a scene, but surely will not pay a transsexual $1200 for a scene.

Transsexual porn is an example of the American economy. Companies are hiring cheap labor overseas. No other porn niche does this in such a large amount that it takes away work. There is much more Brazilian content than American T-Girl content.

What the fuck does Shemale Japan has to do with this? One Japanese site does not take a way a large amount of work from American T-Girls.

Transsexual porn is the weirdest niche in all of porn. It takes away work from American T-Girls. You don't have to do any normal hardcore videos to win awards. Most transsexual porn companies do not realize roleplay is IN and gonzo is not. The most successful and highest ranked porn sites feature roleplay porn. When a straight roleplay porn company has over 100,000 members per month then that should tell transsexual directors and producers something, but that hasn't happen with the exceptions of Devil's Films, SMC and TS Seduction.

How am I insulting Joey? Why are people in transsexual porn so emotionally weak that they can't handle criticism. My point about gonzo which I clearly stated and I know you didn't read it because that something you need to learn, anyone can make a gonzo movie. He has use the same furniture and set for years. How many people have fucked on that same blue couch? Anyone can ask a pornstar a munch of boring questions and then shoot the sex. That's not special. In my opinion the only way to say a director is good is to judge him based on roleplay porn because not just anyone can make good roleplay porn.

TSPornFan
09-01-2011, 05:16 AM
Maybe because that's all she wanted to do. Maybe she has a life outside of your stupid fantasies.

Who the fuck are you talking about? Get off the drugs kid.

OmarZ
09-01-2011, 05:19 AM
Wow! As usual you are never able to understand a thing that was said. I have not made up anything.

That's really great that he made every Brazilian Transsexual pornstar.

What are the standards for a porn movie to be a best seller?

I've been a member of many straight porn sites. And NO one requests for a chick who doesn't speak English. They don't care where she is from nor where the movie is made. They do care if she speaks English. The top straight and gay pornstars speak English. Neither niche takes away a large amount of work from Americans like transsexual porn. Read Below.

I really really wish you would learn how to read and think. Brazilian porn takes a way a lot of work from America T-Girls. No other niche does this type shit. There maybe five videos featuring an American girl, and a Brazilian girl may have 20 videos. The majority of transsexual DVDs feature Brazilian transsexuals. Again no other niche of porn does this. For example Reality Kings can easily shot American girls if they wanted to, but instead look for cheap labor. Reality Kings has no problem paying an America Female porn $2000 for a scene, but surely will not pay a transsexual $1200 for a scene.

Transsexual porn is an example of the American economy. Companies are hiring cheap labor overseas. No other porn niche does this in such a large amount that it takes away work. There is much more Brazilian content than American T-Girl content.

What the fuck does Shemale Japan has to do with this? One Japanese site does not take a way a large amount of work from American T-Girls.

Transsexual porn is the weirdest niche in all of porn. It takes away work from American T-Girls. You don't have to do any normal hardcore videos to win awards. Most transsexual porn companies do not realize roleplay is IN and gonzo is not. The most successful and highest ranked porn sites feature roleplay porn. When a straight roleplay porn company has over 100,000 members per month then that should tell transsexual directors and producers something, but that hasn't happen with the exceptions of Devil's Films, SMC and TS Seduction.

How am I insulting Joey? Why are people in transsexual porn so emotionally weak that they can't handle criticism. My point about gonzo which I clearly stated and I know you didn't read it because that something you need to learn, anyone can make a gonzo movie. He has use the same furniture and set for years. How many people have fucked on that same blue couch? Anyone can ask a pornstar a munch of boring questions and then shoot the sex. That's not special. In my opinion the only way to say a director is good is to judge him based on roleplay porn because not just anyone can make good roleplay porn.

gonzo is butt cheep, role-play requires some actual production costs... and that's not good for the lowest common denominator bottom line...

NaughtyJane
09-01-2011, 05:20 AM
I think performers are under exposed. Companies tend to film their contract T-Girls often on the normal sites outside of the owned sites that featured the contract T-Girls. You may see a few videos featuring one girl and then you won't see her for months or even years on the same site or company.

Fine, I do not agree... at all.
But, so what?
My remarks were about where I spend my money...
and I'm going shoe shopping at Nordstrom ...
Got enough porn for now...

Buy some sexy new duds, get gussied up
and go find a cool, nice fella
that wants to play 'porn star'... right?

That's the name of my game....
Agent Jane, over and out.

AmyDaly
09-01-2011, 05:23 AM
Why are people in transsexual porn so emotionally weak that they can't handle criticism.

have you read some of the mainstream boards and the criticism those fans dish out? Its brutal! Best not to let that plague spread to TS porn imo.

NaughtyJane
09-01-2011, 05:30 AM
have you read some of the mainstream boards and the criticism those fans dish out? Its brutal! Best not to let that plague spread to TS porn imo.

Bet it is brutal, hang in there...
rough enough just being a civilian.

TSPornFan
09-01-2011, 05:40 AM
have you read some of the mainstream boards and the criticism those fans dish out? Its brutal! Best not to let that plague spread to TS porn imo.

I didn't know mainstream boards were dishing out criticism. Links please..:)

Hell, I've never been harsh. Saying a pornstar is not a good perform is very light. Criticizing a director for being overrated because anyone can make gonzo porn. That just isn't harsh.

TSPornFan
09-01-2011, 05:40 AM
Fine, I do not agree... at all.
But, so what?
My remarks were about where I spend my money...
and I'm going shoe shopping at Nordstrom ...
Got enough porn for now...

Buy some sexy new duds, get gussied up
and go find a cool, nice fella
that wants to play 'porn star'... right?

That's the name of my game....
Agent Jane, over and out.

What's Nordstorm? :confused:

AmyDaly
09-01-2011, 05:48 AM
I didn't know mainstream boards were dishing out criticism. Links please..:)

Hell, I've never been harsh. Saying a pornstar is not a good perform is very light. Criticizing a director for being overrated because anyone can make gonzo porn. That just isn't harsh.

xxxporntalk.com,adultdvdtalk.com,gofuckyourself.co m,lukeisback.com(not a forum, but a lot of discussion goes on there) are a few of the main ones. Not very much TS content being discusses at all, but when it is, they are downright hateful. The fans on those boards are pretty brutal a lot of the time towards mainstream stars.

NaughtyJane
09-01-2011, 06:07 AM
What's Nordstorm? :confused:

Well slacker that I am missed my shopping window... goofing off.

Nordstrom's is a department store, originally from Seattle...
known for shoes in particular... it is what they started selling
century ago...
Maybe you are fucking with me and know plenty well.

Alas I'll go tomorrow morning. Living smack in the middle
of my city... I have 3 locations to choose from within 2 miles of my home.
Paradise.
For someone that likes shoes anyway.

Ny282
09-01-2011, 06:08 AM
No way all hot

GroobySteven
09-01-2011, 11:32 AM
Answer my questions - especially the one about being a professional wanker?

You love to give verbage about what YOU believe with zero back up. Where are your stats backing up your assertations? What do you meant "nobody requests a chick who doesn't speak English?" I've had 1000's of requests for non-English speaking girls.
What does ShemaleJapan have to do with this? Well they are non-English speaking only and very sucessful in the USA - that's what they have to do with it.

How are you insulting Joey Silvera, in your opinion poll - which massively failed in what you intended.

How about YOU answer the questions I present YOU, MVP??

Constantly talking through your arse. It's got nothing to do with sensitivity, it's got everything to do with calling out a crap for what it is, and your shit stinks as usual.
Answer the questions I put to you - and stop being a sniffling little whiner.

BellaBellucci
09-01-2011, 12:52 PM
I answered no, like most people. I think the OP needs to quit while he's only a little behind.

~BB~

TSPornFan
09-01-2011, 01:27 PM
Answer my questions - especially the one about being a professional wanker?

You love to give verbage about what YOU believe with zero back up. Where are your stats backing up your assertations? What do you meant "nobody requests a chick who doesn't speak English?" I've had 1000's of requests for non-English speaking girls.
What does ShemaleJapan have to do with this? Well they are non-English speaking only and very sucessful in the USA - that's what they have to do with it.

How are you insulting Joey Silvera, in your opinion poll - which massively failed in what you intended.

How about YOU answer the questions I present YOU, MVP??

Constantly talking through your arse. It's got nothing to do with sensitivity, it's got everything to do with calling out a crap for what it is, and your shit stinks as usual.
Answer the questions I put to you - and stop being a sniffling little whiner.

Again you continue to show everyone you're not too bright. You weren't ignored. I replied to your post and questions. Stop making up bullshit.

WendyWilliams
09-01-2011, 04:19 PM
Being placed in Joeys DVD was one of the biggest marketing highs of my career. Still to this day I get "I loved your scene where you pulled the guy out of the closet", and that was for Joey in 2003. Joey has not only helped with career but he has helped in some ways with the help of Evil Angel to bring the ts market in many households via DVD.

Overrated NO

As a producer and having a distribution company and dealing with distributors and stores I can tell you that he is crushing DVD sales compared to any other company on the market, people have to buy it for stores to continue to sale it.