Dear Grooby, not all black men are thugs.

[TSPornFan]

I just log into my Shemale Pornstar account. I see Jenna Roberts as this week's hardcore update. At first I was happy. Then I noticed it was IR which is nice, no problem there. Then I noticed another black man on a Grooby site being portrayed as a ghetto thug. I have not see a single IR scene on a Grooby site that does not stereotype a black man as a thug.

Note to all producers and employees of Grooby.

Not all black men are thugs nor portray themselves as thugs. There are black men who live different and respectful lifestyles. Some of us use our Es and Rs.

It is offensive to always portray black men this way. Hell, the white pornstars on Grooby sites are not stereotyped in every hardcore scene.

[Jamie French]

What makes you think Grooby has anything to do with it? Performers look how performers look... dudes are pretty much left alone when it comes to how they show up on film. It'd be worse if a producer told the dude to act less urban if that's where the guy is really coming from. Pipe down guy, it's just porn.

[TSPornFan]

What makes you think Grooby has anything to do with it? Performers look how performers look... dudes are pretty much left alone when it comes to how they show up on film. It'd be worse if a producer told the dude to act less urban if that's where the guy is really coming from. Pipe down guy, it's just porn.

How would it be worse to tell someone to pipe down? This is a porn movie. They are porn actors thus they are playing a character on film.

I know for a fact in roleplay straight porn they tell both the men and women how to act as their character, not themselves. I've seen one black female pornstar act ghetto in one movie and act with class in another, all depending on the scene.

[MdR Dave]

Again, Franklin?

Ever consider that the message may be OK but you've picked the wrong medium?

And is it just Grooby that vexes you?


When do classes start again?

[TSPornFan]

What do you mean by the wrong medium?

[Jamie French]

You have no idea how this kind of porn works. Two people go into a room and do a job. Have you ever been on set for a Grooby production? They don't do corny shit involving characters for simple jerk off material. It's efficient and to the point. It's a come as you are operation. I'm one of there editors AND one of there performers and many other models/performers on this board work or have worked for Grooby at one point or another... we know how it works, and you are sitting at home building some fantasy world in your head about how you imagine it works - you're speaking out of your element. PIPE DOWN.

[shyasiandude]

Maybe people enjoy watching this type of role play? Why else would they bother making it?
Personally role play doesn’t do it for me. In fact it puts me off especially bad acting.

[GroobySteven]

Hangon, hold your horses dimwit.

Tues we only upload a behind the scenes video - which is Jenna talking about her upcoming shoot (which goes up on Thurs). She doesn't even mention the male performer.

In fact, the only photo we have of the male performer is this one?


So why do you think he's a thug? I'd say practically every black performer we have used are cool guys, they don't roleplay at being thugs, they don't come across as thuggish by abusing the models and they let them TS models be the main part of the scene.

Where do you get "thug" from?

[PSL4u]

Thug lyfe!!

[TSPornFan]

Hangon, hold your horses dimwit.

Tues we only upload a behind the scenes video - which is Jenna talking about her upcoming shoot (which goes up on Thurs). She doesn't even mention the male performer.

In fact, the only photo we have of the male performer is this one?


So why do you think he's a thug? I'd say practically every black performer we have used are cool guys, they don't roleplay at being thugs, they don't come across as thuggish by abusing the models and they let them TS models be the main part of the scene.

Where do you get "thug" from?

LOL. Look at how the guy is dressed. All black male performers in Grooby films are dressed as stereotypical thugs. They also act and talk like stereotypes.

[TSPornFan]

You have no idea how this kind of porn works. Two people go into a room and do a job. Have you ever been on set for a Grooby production? They don't do corny shit involving characters for simple jerk off material. It's efficient and to the point. It's a come as you are operation. I'm one of there editors AND one of there performers and many other models/performers on this board work or have worked for Grooby at one point or another... we know how it works, and you are sitting at home building some fantasy world in your head about how you imagine it works - you're speaking out of your element. PIPE DOWN.

I'm not in a "fantasy world". Please learn how to read as I NEVER said how Grooby prepares the performers for a site. It maybe a come as your operation. The type of operation does not justify black men always being portrayed as thugs. However, not all of the black paying members want to see someone portrayed as a thug.

[FreddieGomez]

Franklin worries too much about the dudes in tranny porn

but jenna is sexy and looks similar to amber

[GroobySteven]

LOL. Look at how the guy is dressed. All black male performers in Grooby films are dressed as stereotypical thugs. They also act and talk like stereotypes.

What a crock of shit.
So you are saying because a young black male is wearing a baseball cap, then he's a thug. You have some racism instilled into you. The performers dress like that, as that is how they come, I'm not about to dress him up in a tuxedo.
This is no different from suggesting that Christian, Moore or Vin Diesel are neo-nazi's as they all have shaved heads.

Franklin you are a clown, you've a lot of growing up to do.


Seriously, basing your diatribe on this one photo.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I think what he wants to see is a Barrack Obama type

[TSPornFan]

What a crock of shit.
So you are saying because a young black male is wearing a baseball cap, then he's a thug. You have some racism instilled into you. The performers dress like that, as that is how they come, I'm not about to dress him up in a tuxedo.
This is no different from suggesting that Christian, Moore or Vin Diesel are neo-nazi's as they all have shaved heads.

Franklin you are a clown, you've a lot of growing up to do.


Seriously, basing your diatribe on this one photo.


Wow. It has nothing to do with the hat. It's the overall look. Anyone can wear a hat. It's the overall look that creates the self-image. We all know how a stereotypical black thug is portrayed. When it comes to clothes, stereotypical black male actors are wearing sagging pants, urban styling on pants and shirts, pants that are too big, how they talk, etc.

I based my entire argument on the IR scenes that I have seen made by Grooby.

[GroobySteven]

You based your entire argument on that one photo. You can't see his pants - and even if they are baggy, if that's the style that's being worn by young urban black men, then it would be retarded to try and force them to wear something else.

The racism is all on you.

[Jamie French]

How's about if you don't like baggy clothes and baseball caps, don't wear 'em. I'd love to see you walk up to any of those performers and tell them how they are being portrayed in a way you find offensive. You'd be told to fuck off and mind you're own business at best. People just LOVE to be spoken for by clueless strangers. Stand up for yourself and leave others alone. You can come to the big people's table when you're paid to bang trannies on film in whatever clothes you're comfortable in, until then you're way the fuck off base.

[TSPornFan]

You based your entire argument on that one photo. You can't see his pants - and even if they are baggy, if that's the style that's being worn by young urban black men, then it would be retarded to try and force them to wear something else.

The racism is all on you.

Don't twist this. I never said Grooby was racist. Stop ignoring this facts. I based on EVERY read this EVERY Grooby IR scene and scenes with black men.

Not all young black men are urban/ghetto. Let's get this straight.

Why would it be retarded to force someone or request someone to wear something and act differently? They are actors. Porn companies do this all of the time regardless of someone race. After all they are all playing a porn character.

How am I racist because I refuse to dress like a thug? How am I racist because I refuse to be ghetto? I'm sick of this shit from people that a black man needs to act like a thug.

[Teydyn]

Where do you get "thug" from?
Quite obvious isnt it?

He is black.
And wears a cap.
Backwards.




(Just to clear things up: /sarcasm)

[TSPornFan]

I think what he wants to see is a Barrack Obama type

Thank You

[GroobySteven]

Quite obvious isnt it?

He is black.
And wears a cap.
Backwards.




(Just to clear things up: /sarcasm)

Exactly and that's why Franklin is racist. He's calling people thugs based on being black and wearing a cap backwards.

It's irrelevant how you like to dress Franklin. I'm not going to dress someone up how they don't feel comfortable, that's not we do. If you want to be in one of the movies, then audition your racist ass and wear what you like.

[Jamie French]

You still don't get it... they are not actors. These are real people that fit the requirements of a particular shoot. If they happen to dress in FUBU rather than Gap jeans then that's just the way it is. What a tard.

[kukm4]

Would this help?

NBA dress code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_dress_code)

[TSPornFan]

Exactly and that's why Franklin is racist. He's calling people thugs based on being black and wearing a cap backwards.

It's irrelevant how you like to dress Franklin. I'm not going to dress someone up how they don't feel comfortable, that's not we do. If you want to be in one of the movies, then audition your racist ass and wear what you like.

LOL. You think I'm racist because I refuse to be ghetto. Just wow.

[MrsKellyPierce]

lol or put a nerdy black guy on there with glasses and a pocket protector lol

I think he is just wanting a different look..and has a hard time expressing it with out being controversial.

And I believe Franklin is black so I think he just wants to see a guy like himself on a scene or two or the professional type

[TSPornFan]

lol or put a nerdy black guy on there with glasses and a pocket protector lol

I think he is just wanting a different look..and has a hard time expressing it with out being controversial.

Thank You again.

I've seen porn that featured white pornstars dressed as thugs. I've also seen porn with white pornstars dressed with class, rocker star style, skate board dude, etc. Hell, there are straight scenes with white men dress as nerds. It's all about the scene, not who the people actually are.

[Jamie French]

Some people get high off of being mad... any trivial thing can be used as fodder because the dopamine release is the same regardless... what we have here is a bored, lonely dude who has a lot of time on his hands and needs the rush of any argument to make his day bearable.

[TSPornFan]

And I believe Franklin is black so I think he just wants to see a guy like himself on a scene or two or the professional type

Yes, I've always been told that I'm the classy professional type of black man. AKA the black man, black women find to be very unattractive for not being urban.

I've seen other Transsexual porn companies portray black men in many ways as thugs, nerds, professionals, jocks, etc.

[Teydyn]

LOL. You think I'm racist because I refuse to be ghetto. Just wow.
No.
He says you are racist because you say a black man wearing a cap backwards is a thug.

[TSPornFan]

Some people get high off of being mad... any trivial thing can be used as fodder because the dopamine release is the same regardless... what we have here is a bored, lonely dude who has a lot of time on his hands and needs the rush of any argument to make his day bearable.

You don't know me. There is nothing wrong with a person from any race who is sick of their race being stereotyped in any form of media.

[TSPornFan]

No.
He says you are racist because you say a black man wearing a cap backwards is a thug.

I never said that. Please learn how to read. Thanks

[Jamie French]

Define yourself by your race huh? How forward thinking.

[Mayrah]

Thank You again.

I've seen porn that featured white pornstars dressed as thugs. I've also seen porn with white pornstars dressed with class, rocker star style, skate board dude, etc. Hell, there are straight scenes with white men dress as nerds. It's all about the scene, not who the people actually are.


You are comparing things too much with brazzers. And also the guy in that picture is just a goodlooking urban dressed man, nothing thug or ghetto about it at all.

[TSMichelleAustin]

THis is so fucking nuts... the dude is wearing a cartigan sweater over a shirt. My husband wears those all the time... so does that make him ghetto?? Wow, I didnt think he looked ghetto at all. Ghetto to me is how they speak he looks nicely dressed.

Yes Jamie is right guys come over in whatever clothes they are wearing for the shoot. Its not some wardrobe they pick from.

[Teydyn]

I never said that. Please learn how to read.
Really...


I see Jenna Roberts as this week's hardcore update.
Then I noticed another black man on a Grooby site being portrayed as a ghetto thug. I have not see a single IR scene on a Grooby site that does not stereotype a black man as a thug.
Then seanchai shows the only picture of the man in the shot you mentioned.

"Black man. Cap. Backwards" is the picture in question, your comment was "All black man are thugs in grooby prod"

The only conclusion here can be that he is a thug because he is black and wears a cap backwards? Or maybe he is a thug because he is black? If you wanted to say that then sorry for misreading you...

[TSPornFan]

You are comparing things too much with brazzers. And also the guy in that picture is just a goodlooking urban dressed man, nothing thug or ghetto about it at all.

I'm not comparing too much with Brazzers. I've been a member of other straight porn sites.

[Kayden Harley]

LOL. You think I'm racist because I refuse to be ghetto. Just wow.

No, you're coming off as racist because you labeled someone a "thug" after seeing a picture of him wearing a backwards cap...


It's all about the scene, not who the people actually are.

That may be true for OTHER adult film companies that write scripts and set scenes (role play)... But Grooby films are not based on scripts.. I've done a few.. You come in, AS YOU ARE .. you work, you get paid, you leave happy.

<3

[TSPornFan]

That may be true for OTHER adult film companies that write scripts and set scenes (role play)... But Grooby films are not based on scripts.. I've done a few.. You come in, AS YOU ARE .. you work, you get paid, you leave happy.

<3

Some Grooby scenes do have roleplay. Grooby has a mixture of gonzo and roleplay. From what I've seen in behind the scene videos there are scripts for the roleplay scenes unless the director is randomly coming up with lines.

[GroobySteven]

I never said that. Please learn how to read. Thanks

You said exactly that - you called a young black man a "thug" because he was wearing his cap backwards. There is no two ways about it - re-read your thread, there was only on photo of him posted so far. THAT is why you are racist, for that one point alone.

Get over it Franklin. You might not like the way black people are portrayed but that is who these people are and how they dress.

[TheGuard]

It's fucking porn who gives a shit?

[tsdvdman]

Not defending this at all. But I think these "Brothas" are the type he is talkin about being portrayed more rather than the status quo...
And in a much larger(and somewhat irrelevant) conversation...one could say that the images portrayed of black dudes in IR porn... for the most part (str8 or Ts) are the same images the media sensationalizes with their crime files and "gang" news. There IS diversity within cultures. Art should imitate life.

[loren]

Every day I come across black guy who wear caps either to the side or backwards, dreadlocks, chains, and baggy pants. Are they thugs?

[sunairco]

Is it racisim or is it a portrayal of desirable virility and hypermasculinity? I'm not taking any sides on this issue, but I had posted a while back some results of a study that showed black and white women with a preference for black men for the most part chose the "thug" character from photos over others no matter the economic status. Poor and professional alike appear to be attracted to that image just as many white women are attracted to the confindent appearing, cocky guy with the washboard abs, broad shoulders, and a narrow waist. In both cases, these are representation of powerful men that can protect,are independent, and have good genetic stock. They're not necessarily representative of the average guy or desirable social behavior and usually make for poor or abusive mates. You don't see too many preppies,chumps,geeks,and obsequient nice guy characters in porn....same guys that IRL never get laid anyways and have to buy porn.



Yes, I've always been told that I'm the classy professional type of black man. AKA the black man, black women find to be very unattractive for not being urban.

I've seen other Transsexual porn companies portray black men in many ways as thugs, nerds, professionals, jocks, etc.

[0utrageousss]

Black people have the most internalized racism of any group by far. I'm so sick of them going around looking for phantom racism anywhere they can find it in life, ugh.

[TSPornFan]

Is it racisim or is it a portrayal of desirable virility and hypermasculinity? I'm not taking any sides on this issue, but I had posted a while back some results of a study that showed black and white women with a preference for black men for the most part chose the "thug" character from photos over others no matter the economic status. Poor and professional alike appear to be attracted to that image just as many white women are attracted to the confindent appearing, cocky guy with the washboard abs, broad shoulders, and a narrow waist. In both cases, these are representation of powerful men that can protect,are independent, and have good genetic stock. They're not necessarily representative of the average guy or desirable social behavior and usually make for poor or abusive mates. You don't see too many preppies,chumps,geeks,and obsequient nice guy characters in porn....same guys that IRL never get laid anyways and have to buy porn.

The only flaw with your statement is that women(men as well) go for the best genetics. That isn't true. People normally don't. For example the slim man has better genetics than the buff guy. The buff guy has way too many health problems to be considered to have good genetics. The massive muscle mass puts too much pressure on the bones and heart. They also have a weak immune system, and the immune system is a major key for survival.

[onmyknees]

I just log into my Shemale Pornstar account. I see Jenna Roberts as this week's hardcore update. At first I was happy. Then I noticed it was IR which is nice, no problem there. Then I noticed another black man on a Grooby site being portrayed as a ghetto thug. I have not see a single IR scene on a Grooby site that does not stereotype a black man as a thug.

Note to all producers and employees of Grooby.

Not all black men are thugs nor portray themselves as thugs. There are black men who live different and respectful lifestyles. Some of us use our Es and Rs.

It is offensive to always portray black men this way. Hell, the white pornstars on Grooby sites are not stereotyped in every hardcore scene.


Are you for real? You have way too much time on your hands dude. Ever think about spending it more productively? I mean really....where do you take this amateur porn critic thing from here ? Don't you have to prepare for the fall semester?
It's fucking porn....it's not real and it's not and never was intended to be a reflection of real life, nor society. Why don't you start a crusade and contact the dudes who run Dog Fart and protest the way they portray black men? I'm guessing you'd get your ass handed to you !
I think you throw this shit out there looking for a reaction, then when you get one...you backtrack. By your warped deductive process, every porn company that portrays a white affluent middle aged woman as a cougar or MILF out there trolling for young cock in their 7 Series Bimmer is doing a disservice to affluent white women. It's divorced of reality, and no one takes it serious except you.

[Teydyn]

The only flaw with your statement is that women(men as well) go for the best genetics. That isn't true.
Its of course not a conscious choice. You have to think primal. Strong guy is better at protecting then then slim guy. He wont live past 40? Who cares, by then he produced offspring that is again better at fighting the predators then the slim offspring.

[TSPornFan]

Its of course not a conscious choice. You have to think primal. Strong guy is better at protecting then then slim guy. He wont live past 40? Who cares, by then he produced offspring that is again better at fighting the predators then the slim offspring.

Let's use some common sense. The muscular guy nor slim guy can protect people from the dangerous animals. Any man of any size can use a weapon.

Secondly being muscular does not always mean you are strong. Being slim does not mean you are weak. There are physically strong slim men. Sure Joe may have big muscles but his muscles are soft and weak....

What predators are we fighting? Seriously who the fuck are we fighting?

[robertlouis]

I've shaken my head at various threads on HA before, but this one takes the fucking cake.

[TSMichelleAustin]

Maybe Franklin has a porn addiction... I was just watching True Life on MTV and these guys had a porn addiction. They watched and bought it all the time. One guy was so into it that he couldnt work! Maybe Frank is heading down that road! LOL! Just a thought!

[Willie Escalade]

Sean Michaels and Lexington Steele are two of my heroes. And I'm glad I rarely wear my caps backwards. I might be from South Central (112th & Hoover!), but I'm no thug...

[Teydyn]

Let's use some common sense.
No, lets not.

Common Sense and instincts dont mix.

[SammiValentine]

get him signed up steven! ;-)

proper gh3ttol!

[robertlouis]

get him signed up steven! ;-)

proper gh3ttol!


I tried really hard, but this is the only pic of Richard Ayoade wearing a hat.

Not quite thug, more Hendrix, I guess lol.

[dgs925]

While I think it's terribly funny that Franklin is afraid of black guys, and that he has a porn addiction, that isn't my comment. Also funny that Franklin thinks skinny guys are more genetically fit than men who are in shape.

Personally, I'm only interested in interracial porn when it is a thug and a pale skin white girl. I also really like it when there are a group of these thuggish guys and just one girl. Something about those big, muscled and tattooed gangbanger types that gets my dick hard.

[ed_jaxon]

Shut up Kels, I ain't doin porn so stop askin.


I think what he wants to see is a Barrack Obama type

[arnie666]

I just log into my Shemale Pornstar account. I see Jenna Roberts as this week's hardcore update. At first I was happy. Then I noticed it was IR which is nice, no problem there. Then I noticed another black man on a Grooby site being portrayed as a ghetto thug. I have not see a single IR scene on a Grooby site that does not stereotype a black man as a thug.

Note to all producers and employees of Grooby.

Not all black men are thugs nor portray themselves as thugs. There are black men who live different and respectful lifestyles. Some of us use our Es and Rs.

It is offensive to always portray black men this way. Hell, the white pornstars on Grooby sites are not stereotyped in every hardcore scene.

Listen sonny jim. If it annoys you so much put the fried chicken down , get that suit on find your glasses , got into the ghetto with some serious firepower and do some cleansing. Stop blaming 'the man' for how some of your peoples dress. Like twats I might add.

What do you care about how the men look? fucking poofter.

[TSPornFan]

While I think it's terribly funny that Franklin is afraid of black guys, and that he has a porn addiction, that isn't my comment. Also funny that Franklin thinks skinny guys are more genetically fit than men who are in shape.

Personally, I'm only interested in interracial porn when it is a thug and a pale skin white girl. I also really like it when there are a group of these thuggish guys and just one girl. Something about those big, muscled and tattooed gangbanger types that gets my dick hard.

Being slim does not mean you are out of shape. Have you ever seen a slim man in shape? I'm not talking about the wimpy nerdy guy who is unable to pick up twenty pounds. There is this slim guy at my job who has no problem bench pressing 300 pounds. There are fit slim men. Slim men are genetically better because of their health. They better bones, heart, and immune system. 3 major factors to survive.

[Nicole Dupre]

Listen sonny jim. If it annoys you so much put the fried chicken down , get that suit on find your glasses , got into the ghetto with some serious firepower and do some cleansing. Stop blaming 'the man' for how some of your peoples dress. Like twats I might add.

What do you care about how the men look? fucking poofter.
*smfh

I know on Vicki Richter's forum, she allowed Crimson Raider set the tone for everyone to behave like a racist redneck. But that shit really doesn't fly here.

I could point out that your limited gene pool always have inferior dental work, and that you people eat the most horrible food ever. But do I? No. I don't.

[bte]

Franklin,

You do know that porn is all about fantasy. Perhaps for some people they want to see a ghetto black person fuck a TS. If you don't like it then don't watch it. Why not watch TS on TS, thats more erotic than guy fucking a TS or a TS fucking a dude any day.

[SammiValentine]

Slim men are genetically better because of their health. They better bones, heart, and immune system. 3 major factors to survive.

lol this is some educational shit, emphasis on the..

[BrendaQG]

I think what he wants to see is a Barrack Obama type

Now that would be funny. Imagine a Obama look and sound alike asking if he can do this or that to the girl; then answering his own question.

Can I ram this cock in your ass? ... Yes I can!
Can I shove my bill down your throat? ... Yes I can!
Can we cum to the highest heights? ... YES WE CAN!
...

Seriously though Franklin, this is porn. What's for sale are sexual fantasies. What most people who buy these tapes want to see is a very white woman, banged (perhaps in a rape like scenario) by men who they think are authentically black. To allot of people who buy porn that means thugs.

I don't think that Grooby does this intentionally. Their performers are just way more likely to come through the door dressed that way. Suits cost allot of money.

If you don't like it don't watch it.

[Silcc69]

Franklin doesn't speak for a majority of the blacks guys on here. I have made it clear I would like to see more black guys PERIOD in tranny porn. I don't care if they look thuggish or not. As long as the guy can perform with the chic then everything is fine. Franklin act's as if these guys are up for an NAACP Image award or soemthing.

[bte]

Franklin doesn't speak for a majority of the blacks guys on here. I have made it clear I would like to see more black guys PERIOD in tranny porn. I don't care if they look thuggish or not. As long as the guy can perform with the chic then everything is fine. Franklin act's as if these guys are up for an NAACP Image award or soemthing.

Anybody can get the NAACP Image award

[Nicole Dupre]

Personally, I love bad boys; punk rockers, skate punks, surfers, bikers, skinheads (non-racist), mobsters, etc. And those are just the white ones.

I would let the majority of the guys on Oz have sex with me.

[SammiValentine]

Personally, I love bad boys; punk rockers, skate punks, surfers, bikers, skinheads (non-racist), mobsters, etc. And those are just the white ones.

I would let the majority of the guys on Oz have sex with me.

mmmm Oz is quality ;-)

[Nicole Dupre]

It's just fantasy, Franklin. No big thing.

http://www.worldoffilmcraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/ozht_l.jpg
http://pics.livejournal.com/stepliana/pic/000pfwe1
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[Nicole Dupre]

Pre-'roids Mickey Rourke

http://static.poponthepop.com/images/gallery/mickey-rourke-mugshot-photo.jpghttp://www.feelny.net/photo/Mickey-Rourke34349.jpg

[TSPornFan]

Personally, I love bad boys; punk rockers, skate punks, surfers, bikers, skinheads (non-racist), mobsters, etc. And those are just the white ones.


If a black guy acts like the white bad boys then the black guy is labeled nice guy. Society as especially black society has limited the options for a black man to be attractive.


Franklin,

You do know that porn is all about fantasy. Perhaps for some people they want to see a ghetto black person fuck a TS. If you don't like it then don't watch it. Why not watch TS on TS, thats more erotic than guy fucking a TS or a TS fucking a dude any day.

I know that it is fantasy. My issue is that every Grooby movie has this type of image of black men. Should this really be happening in every scene? I'm not saying that the thug fantasy is wrong. I what I am saying is that there should be movies with black men not dressed nor acted as thugs.

[TSPornFan]

Franklin doesn't speak for a majority of the blacks guys on here. I have made it clear I would like to see more black guys PERIOD in tranny porn. I don't care if they look thuggish or not. As long as the guy can perform with the chic then everything is fine. Franklin act's as if these guys are up for an NAACP Image award or soemthing.

There are plenty of black men in transsexual porn. Black T-Girls.com has a decent amount of black male pornstars. TS Seduction has a few IR scenes. SMC has a nice amount of IR content. However, Devil's Flims has not made an American IR scene in many years. Strokers have not made an IR scene in a couple of years. All Grooby's American sites have IR content.

[Nicole Dupre]

If a black guy acts like the white bad boys then the black guy is labeled nice guy. Society as especially black society has limited the options for a black man to be attractive.
Oh, bullshit. Tupac was gorgeous, and he was as thug as anyone. I just don't like dummies. I get turned off by black retards and white retards. But bad boys aren't retards.They're bad boys. I wouldn't want a Tupac to act like a white bad boy.

You have an inferiority complex about being black, and you live in a porn fantasy world. I'm sorry.

[TSPornFan]

Oh, bullshit. Tupac was gorgeous, and he was as thug as anyone. I just don't like dummies. I get turned off by black retards and white retards. But bad boys aren't retards.They're bad boys. I wouldn't want a Tupac to act like a white bad boy.

You have an inferiority complex about being black, and you live in a porn fantasy world. I'm sorry.

That is borderline racist. Black men should NOT be required to live a certain lifestyle. You wouldn't want a black man living as punk rockers, skate punks, surfers, bikers, etc. A person's skin color does NOT require them to live a certain life style.

Since I'm a more classy black man to you I would be a black retard for not being a thug.

I'm not sure why you're saying "OH BULLSHIT". You proved my point.

[Silcc69]

Thug Life - From The Cradle To The Grave (Uncut) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdpNZkPpbgM)

[Nicole Dupre]

That is borderline racist. Black men should NOT be required to live a certain lifestyle. You wouldn't want a black man living as punk rockers, skate punks, surfers, bikers, etc. A person's skin color does NOT require them to live a certain life style.

Since I'm a more classy black man to you I would be a black retard for not being a thug.

I'm not sure why you're saying "OH BULLSHIT". You proved my point.

"Racist"? lol No. It's just a look, and I like it a lot of times. Porn isn't just something that exists to stroke Franklin's fragile ego. Sorry.

And I proved MY point. You said I wouldn't want black guys looking like white thugs. That was your concept, not mine. I wouldn't want black guys looking like anything in particular tbh. I just like self-confidence, which is something you obviously lack. Some black thugs act like retards ie. ignorant idiots. Tupac was a straight up thug, and he was sexy as fuck. But he never seemed stupid.

You're insecure.

[Nicole Dupre]

Trust me. This is your issue, and yours alone. Obviously no one here has this hang up but you.

[TSPornFan]

"Racist"? lol No. It's just a look, and I like it a lot of times. Porn isn't just something that exists to stroke Franklin's fragile ego. Sorry.

And I proved MY point. You said I wouldn't want black guys looking like white thugs. That was your concept, not mine. I wouldn't want black guys looking like anything in particular tbh. I just like self-confidence, which is something you obviously lack. Some black thugs act like retards ie. ignorant idiots. Tupac was a straight up thug, and he was sexy as fuck. But he never seemed stupid.

You're insecure.

I'm not insecure. I know who I am. I never said you wouldn't date want black guys looking like white thugs. I never once said your name. I made a general comment that was not directed towards anyone.

[Nicole Dupre]

Basically, you prefer the Cosby show stereotype to the thug stereotype. But BOTH are stereotypes. Some black people are just people.

Oh, and by the way, I worked with a black skate punk in FL, and he was FINE AS HELL. He rocked that look COMPLETELY. Is that ok with you, or was he being an Uncle Tom? Because skate punks don't dress like the Cosby Show cast.

[Nicole Dupre]

I'm not insecure. I know who I am. I never said you wouldn't date want black guys looking like white thugs. I never once said your name. I made a general comment that was not directed towards anyone.
You just quoted me. Why are you backpeddling?

[Nicole Dupre]

If you look like this, Franklin, you may wanna dress a little more "thug". Just a suggestion. lol

http://www.makeadiff21.com/storage/urkel.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1262630108833

[TSPornFan]

You just quoted me. Why are you backpeddling?


If a black guy acts like the white bad boys then the black guy is labeled nice guy. Society as especially black society has limited the options for a black man to be attractive.
.


Don't play stupid. You know what I'm talking about. My quote above was NEVER directed to anyone.

[Dino Velvet]

Bad Brains = Black Punkers = Awesome

Bad Brains Banned in DC @ CBGB&#39;s 1982 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7tryyJ0Ro)

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/benhoyt/bad_brains-poster-scuzz-2.jpg

[bte]

Bad Brains are awesome!

[BigDF]

That is borderline racist. Black men should NOT be required to live a certain lifestyle. You wouldn't want a black man living as punk rockers, skate punks, surfers, bikers, etc. A person's skin color does NOT require them to live a certain life style.

Since I'm a more classy black man to you I would be a black retard for not being a thug.

I'm not sure why you're saying "OH BULLSHIT". You proved my point.


I'm not insecure. I know who I am. I never said you wouldn't date want black guys looking like white thugs. I never once said your name. I made a general comment that was not directed towards anyone.


You just quoted me. Why are you backpeddling?He isn't backpedaling, Nicole, he just loves to argue about this BS. I think he's practicing for his congressional run, because he talks in circles so much.:dead:

[raheme]

Exactly and that's why Franklin is racist. He's calling people thugs based on being black and wearing a cap backwards.

It's irrelevant how you like to dress Franklin. I'm not going to dress someone up how they don't feel comfortable, that's not we do. If you want to be in one of the movies, then audition your racist ass and wear what you like.

Seanchai don't even respond to the dude...clearly he has the race issue, not you. As a black/spanish guy that wears my hat backwards sometimes and uses slang yet holds a bachelors, masters and working on my doctorate from a tier 1 school, I. Am not offended.

The least of my concern when watching porn, is a dude. All I ask is whoever it is, fuck like their lives depended on it!

[Silcc69]

Bad Brains = Black Punkers = Awesome

Bad Brains Banned in DC @ CBGB's 1982 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7tryyJ0Ro)

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/benhoyt/bad_brains-poster-scuzz-2.jpg

WOW. Ya learn something new everyday.

[partlycloudy]

Tupac Was Fake - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFr8WngrFpI)

[FreddieGomez]

Tupac Was Fake - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFr8WngrFpI)

he came off as kinda "gay" in this inerview

[SirCumsAlot]

Tupac Was Fake - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFr8WngrFpI)

LOL that last part was hilarious! Dude always was a wisdom of knowledge

[FreddieGomez]

Franklin doesn't speak for a majority of the blacks guys on here. I have made it clear I would like to see more black guys PERIOD in tranny porn. I don't care if they look thuggish or not. As long as the guy can perform with the chic then everything is fine. Franklin act's as if these guys are up for an NAACP Image award or soemthing.

i could careless about the dudes in tranny porn. i dont watch it for the dudes....black or white....u dont see an asian dudes complaining about the lack of asian dudes in tranny porn...smh at black ppl aways usin the race card

[MdR Dave]

i could care less about the dudes

This.

[BellaBellucci]

smh at black ppl aways usin the race card

This. ^

It's called 'trolling.' Learn it, love it, live it.

~BB~

[Merkurie]

Tupac Was Fake - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFr8WngrFpI)

Can someone say Gangstalicious?

I saw an interview with 50cent coming off pretty soft too.

But like Tupac said, there is a big market for the black thug type.

[Silcc69]

i could careless about the dudes in tranny porn. i dont watch it for the dudes....black or white....u dont see an asian dudes complaining about the lack of asian dudes in tranny porn...smh at black ppl aways usin the race card

Actually my nigga there is something called ladyboy porn. There is a whole gang of asian on asian tranny porn.

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/tranny-asses-fucked/1200911/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/long-legged-tgirl-sucks-a-nice-cock/1203011/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/ladyboy-annet/1106031/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/tsukinohime-shemale-jam/929111/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/shemale/981361/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/elegant-asian-lorena-teasing/1202981/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/tsukinohime-shemale-jam/929101/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/japanese-shemale-orgy-group-sex/966681/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/tsukinohime-shemale-jam/929061/

[Nicole Dupre]

That may very well be regarding Tupac, which is fine with me because I don't care about thug street credibility anyway. lol I just think he was hot. :)

I do know it's true about Dr Dre, and Easy-E but they're not sexually appealing to me anyway. lol

And yes. The Bad Brains were the real deal, and they were one of the best punk bands ever.

[SirCumsAlot]

That may very well be regarding Tupac, which is fine with me because I don't care about thug street credibility anyway. lol I just think he was hot. :)

I do know it's true about Dr Dre, and Easy-E but they're not sexually appealing to me anyway. lol

And yes. The Bad Brains were the real deal, and they were one of the best punk bands ever.

Phh I dont think dr dre cares about being a "real thug" or "street thug", dude's freaking loaded in doe!!!

[FreddieGomez]

Actually my nigga there is something called ladyboy porn. There is a whole gang of asian on asian tranny porn.

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/tranny-asses-fucked/1200911/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/long-legged-tgirl-sucks-a-nice-cock/1203011/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/ladyboy-annet/1106031/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/tsukinohime-shemale-jam/929111/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/shemale/981361/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/elegant-asian-lorena-teasing/1202981/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/tsukinohime-shemale-jam/929101/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/japanese-shemale-orgy-group-sex/966681/

http://www.tube8.com/shemale/asian/tsukinohime-shemale-jam/929061/

i aint watching all those

[Nicole Dupre]

Kool Keith's opinion on most "thugs". lol

KOOL KEITH - Thug or What - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psFs38Sjt5w)

[tsnajwa]

Pre-'roids Mickey Rourke

http://static.poponthepop.com/images/gallery/mickey-rourke-mugshot-photo.jpghttp://www.feelny.net/photo/Mickey-Rourke34349.jpg

him and bruce jenner scare me so bad omg..

[Silcc69]

i aint watching all those

LMAO u lazy azz.

[wombat33]

VERY WELL SAID..........I have many black friends.......none of them thugs.........in fact I have no thug friends of any race. I feel sorry for the black race when I see thugs dudes runnig around, as I do for my own race when I see white thugs running around. People can do so much better.

[Nicole Dupre]

him and bruce jenner scare me so bad omg..
He was so cute until the 'roids, and he started hanging out with the Hells Angels imo. Now he looks like a rock-faced freakazoid.

Bruce Jenner has always looked scary, for one reason or another. lol

[Pelheckitt]

*smfh

I know on Vicki Richter's forum, she allowed Crimson Raider set the tone for everyone to behave like a racist redneck. But that shit really doesn't fly here.

I could point out that your limited gene pool always have inferior dental work, and that you people eat the most horrible food ever. But do I? No. I don't.

Thats some of the most retarded fucking shit I have ever heard. So everyone one on VRF are racist rednecks? Where are you getting that from? Im a member how the fuck do you know where I live? You know shit about shit! No racist shit happens over here....what fucking thread are you posting in dumbass??? And far as gene pools go, im willing to bet your from the shallow end of that thing unless your parents were Thurston and Lovey Howell.

[robertlouis]

Fuck, is this thread still limping along?

[Nicole Dupre]

Thats some of the most retarded fucking shit I have ever heard. So everyone one on VRF are racist rednecks? Where are you getting that from? Im a member how the fuck do you know where I live? You know shit about shit! No racist shit happens over here....what fucking thread are you posting in dumbass??? And far as gene pools go, im willing to bet your from the shallow end of that thing unless your parents were Thurston and Lovey Howell.
Huh? What the fuck are you talking about? I don't even know you. Go fuck yourself. And while you're at it, go suck some CR dick and get out of my face, loser.

Arnie made racist comments in the anon section of Vicki's forum plenty, and Vicki's head mod never raised an eyebrow. That was my experience there, Billy Bob Blowjob. And I joined that forum in '05. Who the fuck are you anyway?

[Nicole Dupre]

Thats some of the most retarded fucking shit I have ever heard. So everyone one on VRF are racist rednecks? Where are you getting that from? Im a member how the fuck do you know where I live? You know shit about shit! No racist shit happens over here....what fucking thread are you posting in dumbass??? And far as gene pools go, im willing to bet your from the shallow end of that thing unless your parents were Thurston and Lovey Howell.
Arnie is my British racist, rapist cop buddy from the original HD. We have an understanding. If he raises his hands to me in violence, I'm going to core out his eyeballs and skullfuck him. He knows my politics and I know his. I can deal with Arnie. Now if you're his GF or CR's fine. Arnie and I have a platonic love/hate relationship, which is none of your fucking business, shitbag.

[Pelheckitt]

Arnie is my British racist, rapist cop buddy from the original HD. We have an understanding. If he raises his hands to me in violence, I'm going to core out his eyeballs and skullfuck him. He knows my politics and I know his. I can deal with Arnie. Now if you're his GF or CR's fine. Arnie and I have a platonic love/hate relationship, which is none of your fucking business, shitbag.

Eat a dick you fucking shriveled up shrew! Yeah you have an understanding that's why your tired ass has been banned from both boards! I dont give a flying fuck about any love hate relationship you have with anyone, if I want to know about your love life I'll look you up on craigslist! You generalized that members of VRF were redneck racist. Read your own post you stupid ass POST WHORE!

[Nicole Dupre]

Eat a dick you fucking shriveled up shrew! Yeah you have an understanding that's why your tired ass has been banned from both boards! I dont give a flying fuck about any love hate relationship you have with anyone, if I want to know about your love life I'll look you up on craigslist! You generalized that members of VRF were redneck racist. Read your own post you stupid ass POST WHORE!
How meaningless does banning get when you aren't even on the forum you're getting banned from? LMAO That was comedy, banning me months after I left. lol

Whoever you are, you're just some meaningless putz imo. You're on my ignore list as of now, you insignificant loser.

[Hannibal Lecter]

Thats some of the most retarded fucking shit I have ever heard. So everyone one on VRF are racist rednecks? Where are you getting that from? Im a member how the fuck do you know where I live? You know shit about shit! No racist shit happens over here....what fucking thread are you posting in dumbass??? And far as gene pools go, im willing to bet your from the shallow end of that thing unless your parents were Thurston and Lovey Howell.

Well, quotes like "...The Balkans must be cleansed of Muslims..." made of a member over there who calls himself sometimes Skulduggery but sometimes Interfectum and even "Mr Tom Moore", answered by the following statement: "...This, I totally agree with. They are worthless..." made by the very moderator CR on that so called board are terrifying. No other "regular" members accepted by the clan over there ever reacted on that and many similar such statements made in the past. They simply take that as a completely normal thing. (i refer to a thread about Vicki being some kind of cybernetic organism from the future kind of sh*t..).

But all the other members who are protesting against that sh*t are simply constantly being removed along with their posts. I saw that.

I encourage every normal human being who cares about humanity and the USA laws to report that to the corresponding authorities. That's terrifying thing and should not be allowed to happen.

[Pelheckitt]

How meaningless does banning get when you aren't even on the forum you're getting banned from? LMAO That was comedy, banning me months after I left. lol

Whoever you are, you're just some meaningless putz imo. You're on my ignore list as of now, you insignificant loser.

How meaningless is it to put someone on your ignore list that would cross the street to avoid you.

Your a fucking joke!

[scubaman]

I think what he wants to see is a Barrack Obama type


Shut up Kels, I ain't doin porn so stop askin.

I know you done some amatuer stuff. You said so before. Kelly's just looking to try some dark meat

;)

[scubaman]

Now on a serious note most guys here complain about the guys in TS porn. How may threads are on this board about Christian or Tom Moore. It's apparent that there is a lack of male talent in this genre. Be happy that they are able to get new talent as it instead of recycling the "same old" guys. I personally don't give a F*CK about the male talent. That's not why I watch this genre, to me it's about the girls. I'm happy that there seems to be more new girls getting involve as well my favorites. I may not be happy that some of the girls I like stop doing porn, but it's not my life so I get over the loss and don't complain. It's the same with straight porn, girls come and go. You need to remember that these are people and the have lives and they are not living them for you.

[Nicole Dupre]

Well, quotes like "...The Balkans must be cleansed of Muslims..." made of a member over there who calls himself sometimes Skulduggery but sometimes Interfectum and even "Mr Tom Moore", answered by the following statement: "...This, I totally agree with. They are worthless..." made by the very moderator CR on that so called board are terrifying. No other "regular" members accepted by the clan over there ever reacted on that and many similar such statements made in the past. They simply take that as a completely normal thing. (i refer to a thread about Vicki being some kind of cybernetic organism from the future kind of sh*t..).

But all the other members who are protesting against that sh*t are simply constantly being removed along with their posts. I saw that.

I encourage every normal human being who cares about humanity and the USA laws to report that to the corresponding authorities. That's terrifying thing and should not be allowed to happen.
I wouldn't even know about that stuff. There was enough weird shit going on over there to lose interest over two years ago. But that sounds completely plausible. Feeding into the insanity of that crazy crossdressing freak who murdered his wife was way up there on the list creepy shit tho'. And when they tried to sabotage Seanchai's purchase of HD, that spoke volumes.

This idiot talks about me getting banned? lol Vicki is banned from HD AND HA. lol

[Pelheckitt]

I wouldn't even know about that stuff. There was enough weird shit going on over there to loose interest over two years ago. But that sounds completely plausible. Feeding into the insanity of that crazy crossdressing freak who murdered his wife was way up there on the list creepy shit tho'. And when they tried to sabotage Seanchai's purchase of HD, that spoke volumes.

This idiot talks about me getting banned? lol Vicki is banned from HD AND HA. lol

I dont give a flying fuck that Vicki has been banned here and she actual isnt banned at HD idiot not that I care about that either! The core of this argument was you calling everyone at VRF racist rednecks, if your argument is something a few people said in a thread so they are all redneck racist then you are truly dumbier than you look. Your to fucking dim to have a conversation with. Keep shooting your mouth off Post Whore, I'll let you return to your madness, you remind me of Honda.

[MdR Dave]

I dont give a flying fuck . . .truly dumber than you look.. . post Whore, .

I'm sensing some ButtHurt here.

Folks, relax! Read the original post and let's start talking smack about Franklin again.

[Nicole Dupre]

I'm sensing some ButtHurt here.

Folks, relax! Read the original post and let's start talking smack about Franklin again.
He's still babbling? lol He's pretty hypersensitive for a numbskull.

Yeah, let's talk about Franklin's obsession with porn, and why Shemale Road Trip #1000 didn't have quite the dialogue that #999 did. Imho only the ones that Stanley Kubrick directed still hold up anyway. ;-) lol

[TSPornFan]

I think it is very sad that a black man gets disrespected because he is sick of his race being stereotyped so much porn. Sure I know porn plays to stereotypes, but not all of the time at least for other races.

[MdR Dave]

A phrase like "the black man" is in itself a stereotype.

Read the posts, brother- you can speak for "Franklin" but apparently not fir, or of, "the black man".

Signed,

"the pinkish man".

(truth be told I'm not exactly white!)

[robertlouis]

I think it is very sad that a black man gets disrespected because he is sick of his race being stereotyped so much porn. Sure I know porn plays to stereotypes, but not all of the time at least for other races.

Franklin, I think the main reason why you've received nothing but shit over this is because you chose to go to war with Stephen over an issue which only you could see. Extrapolating a single glimpse of some guy with a cap on backwards was always going to be extremely flimsy, not unlike building a dinosaur skeleton from half a tooth lol.

Your general point may have some validity - I wouldn't profess to be an expert - but I think you could take most of the steam out of it if you simply recognised your original error and apologised to Stephen for casting aspersions on his site when your target was in fact your personal perception of how porn sites in general portray black urban males.

[Nicole Dupre]

I think it's really fucked up that Franklin only posts photos in his sig of latent homosexual white wrestlers, but never black ones. I think that's his way of saying that white guys are the only ones who rub their steroid-pumped bodies up against one another, occasionally copping a feel of each other's balls and dicks. I think it's just wrong, and I hope the discrimination ends. I'm sure that there are black men running around in pastel colored leotards, rubbing their greased, hairless, steroid-pumped bodies up against each other as well. And I would like to see more interracial homoerotic wrestling too.

[robertlouis]

I think it's really fucked up that Franklin only posts photos in his sig of latent homosexual white wrestlers, but never black ones. I think that's his way of saying that white guys are the only ones who rub their steroid-pumped bodies up against one another, occasionally copping a feel of each other's balls and dicks. I think it's just wrong, and I hope the discrimination ends. I'm sure that there are black men running around in pastel colored leotards, rubbing their greased, hairless, steroid-pumped bodies up against each other as well. And I would like to see more interracial homoerotic wrestling too.

LMAO Nicole. I'm swimming in an entire lake of your sarcasm.

Oh well, that's my peacemaking efforts fucked, I suppose. It was less about the "let's all try to get along" thing and more of an effort to shut down this dumb thread, to be perfectly honest.

[MdR Dave]

I think it's really fucked up that Franklin only posts photos in his sig of latent homosexual white wrestlers, but never black ones. I think that's his way of saying that white guys are the only ones who rub their steroid-pumped bodies up against one another, occasionally copping a feel of each other's balls and dicks. . . And I would like to see more interracial homoerotic wrestling too.

Wait until November, Nicole. High school and college wrestling season starts then. As I remember there were plenty of single females from the community there to support us- and perving is only an arrestable offense when some old guy does it!

Franklin- stop being racist, and post some brothers in tights.

And RobertLouis- SMH- why do you insist on treating us like adults? You seem smarter than that!

[TSPornFan]

Franklin, I think the main reason why you've received nothing but shit over this is because you chose to go to war with Stephen over an issue which only you could see. Extrapolating a single glimpse of some guy with a cap on backwards was always going to be extremely flimsy, not unlike building a dinosaur skeleton from half a tooth lol.

Your general point may have some validity - I wouldn't profess to be an expert - but I think you could take most of the steam out of it if you simply recognised your original error and apologised to Stephen for casting aspersions on his site when your target was in fact your personal perception of how porn sites in general portray black urban males.

What are you people talking about with this hat shit? I said his entire outfit is billed towards the stereotype.

[robertlouis]

And RobertLouis- SMH- why do you insist on treating us like adults? You seem smarter than that!

The endless and doomed triumph of hope over experience, Dave lol!

It's always worth a try..... :wiggle:

[MdR Dave]

I'm quoting myself, but robertlouis said it much more elegantly:


Again, Franklin?

Ever consider that the message may be OK but you've picked the wrong medium?

And is it just Grooby that vexes you?


Now, take off that damn hat!

[robertlouis]

What are you people talking about with this hat shit? I said his entire outfit is billed towards the stereotype.

Oh yes, I forgot the plain white teeshirt and the glimpse of a black cardigan.

Fuck, I'm a 40 something middle class white guy in the UK and while I wouldn't wear the cap under any circumstances - simply don't like them - I often wear a white tshirt and a black cardie.

Are you familiar with the concept of mountains and molehills, Franklin?

My point was that if you wanted to cite an example of your general point, surely you could have found a much better one without searching too hard.

To me, your use of that photo is like me saying that all cats are portrayed as nazis after looking at this pic. It's that ridiculous.

[TSPornFan]

Oh yes, I forgot the plain white teeshirt and the glimpse of a black cardigan.

Fuck, I'm a 40 something middle class white guy in the UK and while I wouldn't wear the cap under any circumstances - simply don't like them - I often wear a white tshirt and a black cardie.

Are you familiar with the concept of mountains and molehills, Franklin?

My point was that if you wanted to cite an example of your general point, surely you could have found a much better one without searching too hard.

To me, your use of that photo is like me saying that all cats are portrayed as nazis after looking at this pic. It's that ridiculous.

My argument is based on all of Grooby's videos featuring black male pornstars. I stated this in the OP. This isn't just about the one guy with the hat.

[robertlouis]

My argument is based on all of Grooby's videos featuring black male pornstars. I stated this in the OP. This isn't just about the one guy with the hat.

I stand corrected in respect of the content of your OP, Franklin, so apologies on that score. However, lots of people who have actually filmed for Grooby have explained the modus operandi which appears to be pretty much come as you are without exception for all races and genders. You rarely see any males in office attire unless it's a roleplay set in an office, for heaven's sake, it's street casual in every other scene.

I doubt that asking young black dudes to adopt a preppy look would be greeted with anything other than derision. You've been very clear about what you don't want. Could you please articulate what it is you'd like to see, as well as outlining the practical means of achieving it? I'm trying hard, but I'm genuinely baffled.

[SammiValentine]

I stand corrected in respect of the content of your OP, Franklin, so apologies on that score. However, lots of people who have actually filmed for Grooby have explained the modus operandi which appears to be pretty much come as you are without exception for all races and genders. You rarely see any males in office attire unless it's a roleplay set in an office, for heaven's sake, it's street casual in every other scene.

I doubt that asking young black dudes to adopt a preppy look would be greeted with anything other than derision. You've been very clear about what you don't want. Could you please articulate what it is you'd like to see, as well as outlining the practical means of achieving it? I'm trying hard, but I'm genuinely baffled.

more of this please :-415550

[Prospero]

I think that there is a fifth column of neo-Nazi kitties.... Glen Beck obviously had a point in his maniac speech in Jerusalem about darkness rising.

[robertlouis]

more of this please :-415550

Where did you get that pic of the Everton back five from, Sammi?

[AngelinaTorres]

Not all black men are thugs nor portray themselves as thugs. There are black men who live different and respectful lifestyles. Some of us use our Es and Rs.

I agree with Franklin.

personally I prefer Black Men in Suit :)

Mehcad Brooks is in my dreams every nights :fuckin:

[Nicole Dupre]

A room full of various stereotypical criminal black guys, who I'd let fuck me... :-)

HBO - Oz - Said joins to Adebisi (s04.e07) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSPNs_R-ZRY)

[robertlouis]

I agree with Franklin.

personally I prefer Black Men in Suit :)

Mehcad Brooks is in my dreams every nights :fuckin:

I'd agree with you and Franklin over that statement Angelina, but maybe you haven't read the rest of this thread.

But don't - it's 30 minutes of your life you will never get back. Just fer Chrissakes don't mention baseball caps lol.

[Nicole Dupre]

What do you think of the idea of militant black Muslim porn, Franklin? Because I want Said to mount me for Allah. A salaam alaikum. :D

[robertlouis]

What do you think of the idea of militant black Muslim porn, Franklin? Because I want Said to mount me for Allah. A salaam alaikum. :D

I take it you're not one of the 72 virgins that they promise to suicide bombers, Nicole. :Bowdown:

[Silcc69]

So I guess in Franklin's mind, it's easier to watch a video with Tom Moore than it is one with the so called stereotypical black male?

[Nicole Dupre]

I take it you're not one of the 72 virgins that they promise to suicide bombers, Nicole. :Bowdown:
Not until after my debutante party, Robert.

Btw if they really wanted to stop their Jihad dead in it's tracks, all they have to do is parachute in crates of porn, solar powered DVD players, and lube. Look at how preoccupied Franklin is.

[TSPornFan]

I stand corrected in respect of the content of your OP, Franklin, so apologies on that score. However, lots of people who have actually filmed for Grooby have explained the modus operandi which appears to be pretty much come as you are without exception for all races and genders. You rarely see any males in office attire unless it's a roleplay set in an office, for heaven's sake, it's street casual in every other scene.

I doubt that asking young black dudes to adopt a preppy look would be greeted with anything other than derision. You've been very clear about what you don't want. Could you please articulate what it is you'd like to see, as well as outlining the practical means of achieving it? I'm trying hard, but I'm genuinely baffled.

I just would like to see some non-stereotypical roles in general for black men in TS period. There are a few preppy black men, classy black men, punk rockers, etc. Guys like Robert(Wendy said he goes gay porn now), Jack Hammer(TS seduction and sadly has cancer), Manuel, Lobo, etc.


So I guess in Franklin's mind, it's easier to watch a video with Tom Moore than it is one with the so called stereotypical black male?

Tom Moore can be annoying. I've seen worst young ghetto black men in straight porn be extremely annoying. They are smiling right at the camera and just acting stupid instead of fucking the girls.

[BellaBellucci]

Personally, I like Akon. The whole gangster gone straight thing is sexy. Talk about the best of both worlds. ;)

~BB~

[sp fan]

true not all black are thugs but certain ones do seem to take pride in the word thug and glorify it. To me all these so called thugs are homothugs. obama is the buggest thug of them all thugging the whole nation. stop whining about grooby portraying black men as thugs because there is no where where grooby stated ALL black men are thugs.

[sp fan]

Personally, I like Akon. The whole gangster gone straight thing is sexy. Talk about the best of both worlds. ;)

~BB~

anyone calling themself a gangster is not, real gangsters keep their business to their self. stop falling for these gimmick folklore.

[FreddieGomez]

Personally, I like Akon. The whole gangster gone straight thing is sexy. Talk about the best of both worlds. ;)

~BB~

Akon? that dude is too damn black... lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Actually, I wouldn't touch a thug IRL. That's why I think shows like Oz are awesome, and I don't mind it AT ALL in porn. Fantasy is healthy within certain boundaries.

I honestly think Franklin is so atypical that it falls into a fringe category. Example: if his mother beat him in a room with a red lamp, then red lamps would be a problem in porn scenes because red lamps represent child abuse to him. And since Franklin takes porn far too seriously, and has the time to ponder how better to fine tune it to his personal needs, everyone else is expected to pay attention to these threads of his.

Well I can't take it seriously. I don't even watch much porn. For me, porn is an impulsive event that's quickly forgotten after the an orgasm. For most people, it's filler. Most guys don't save every issue of Playboy magazine with an OCD approach. They jerk off a few times, throw it away, and move on. That's how I look at porn too. Imo only a relatively small amount of sad weirdos invest that much emotional energy into masturbation.

I think the wrestling pics speak volumes. That's another fairly immature fantasy world that grown men would seem pretty odd to even be acknowledging. How old is Franklin anyway? Maybe he's under 18 for all we know.

[BigBlackMan]

We need more Carlton Banks in porn.

[BellaBellucci]

anyone calling themself a gangster is not, real gangsters keep their business to their self. stop falling for these gimmick folklore.

Sure, he's not a real gangster, but who cares? I like his image and I'd let him hit it. It's not like I want to traffic drugs with him. :lol:

~BB~

[MdR Dave]

if his mother beat him in a room with a red lamp, then red lamps would be a problem .
No more wire hangers!

[robertlouis]

true not all black are thugs but certain ones do seem to take pride in the word thug and glorify it. To me all these so called thugs are homothugs. obama is the buggest thug of them all thugging the whole nation. stop whining about grooby portraying black men as thugs because there is no where where grooby stated ALL black men are thugs.

Where the fuck did that come from, or is it just a means of throwing in a prejudice for its own sake? smh.

[MdR Dave]

true not all presidents are thugs but certain ones do seem to take pride . obama is the biggest thug of them all thugging the whole nation..

I like robertlouis' question about gratuitous racism but I'll add another: do you really think that Obama- even with another four years or, hell, 20- could rape the US as completely as Bush/Cheney?

[brickcitybrother]

Quoting Tosh.O "Mix that shit up" As opposed to addressing the "THUG" characterization ... simply mix in more types of characters (male and female).

[russtafa]

i only know one black American guy and he is a top bloke,always up for a laugh.if he is typical of America they would be all welcome not like some of the white one's i have met