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GroobySteven
08-16-2011, 09:27 PM
It's the new site from Grooby.

Black Tgirls (http://www.black-tgirls.com) has been running since 1999 and is easily, the leading venue for Black transsexual porn, featuring 100's of models. Last year, due to the feedback we'd received from members we increased the hardcore scenes from 1 scene every two weeks, to weekly sets and still people want either more hardcore, or complain that Black Tgirls (http://www.black-tgirls.com) has too many solo sets (which is what it's famous for and what most of the members enjoy).

Ten years ago it was difficult to find black American transgender models willing to work for us. Now we get too many - we have to turn away many models or put them on hold, until we have a gap in the schedule. I believe this is partially because the internet and our sites have made it more acceptable for tgirl models to work on these sorts of sites, as well as having a new crop of photographers who are more involved in the trangender communities. More and more of these models are wanting to do hardcore work with us.

The budget/revenue on Black Tgirls (http://www.black-tgirls.com) couldn't afford the ability to bring in more hardcore scenes (which get very expensive) and I don't know if a website can be operable shooting brand new hardcore weekly scenes. We've came up with a compromise with this site, which is a new concept for us. Members of Black-Tgirls can get "extra" hardcore scenes on top of their Black Tgirls memberships and for those, who ONLY want black shemale hardcore videos, we have the new exclusive scenes, shot only for this site, all the black hardcore scenes (that were shot in HD) from BlackTgirls, Shemale Pornstar (http://www.shemale-pornstar.com) and Transexdomination - on top of that, they also get the "Grooby For Free", bonus sets, representing even better value for money.

I believe the exclusive content which we're shooting for this site, represents some of the best transsexual hardcore porn around - and we've a great line-up already in the can for future updates.

Members of Black-Tgirls can get access to this site for a VERY DEEP discount - or for those who just want Hardcore Black Shemales ...

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Heather Hung

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Lady Godiva

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Lola

GroobySteven
08-16-2011, 09:28 PM
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Lola The Hole Puncher


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Miami Lee


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Sasha Strokes

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Silcc69
08-16-2011, 09:36 PM
Ten years ago it was difficult to find black American transgender models willing to work for us. Now we get too many - we have to turn away many models or put them on hold, until we have a gap in the schedule. I believe this is partially because the internet and our sites have made it more acceptable for tgirl models to work on these sorts of sites, as well as having a new crop of photographers who are more involved in the trangender communities. More and more of these models are wanting to do hardcore work with us.

By that logic ya'll should have more girls that look like Amber rather than some of the more masculine looking model I see on there. I'm jsut sayin though..............

Iori
08-16-2011, 09:38 PM
coming soon another Amberskyi scene maybe? :praying:

GroobySteven
08-16-2011, 09:49 PM
By that logic ya'll should have more girls that look like Amber rather than some of the more masculine looking model I see on there. I'm jsut sayin though..............

Hahahaha - brilliant.
Don't be a cunt ... I'm just saying

tsdvdman
08-16-2011, 10:14 PM
This should do well and cater to a large group looking for "ethnic" hardcore ts porn aside from the Brazil stuff. See if you can get your peeps to entice Hailey to do a scene or two...

Silcc69
08-16-2011, 10:22 PM
Hahahaha - brilliant.
Don't be a cunt ... I'm just saying

The other sites tend to offer excellent looking girls, it's just with blacktgirls is either a hit or miss effort and most of the time, its the later. :(

FreddieGomez
08-16-2011, 11:05 PM
Ten years ago it was difficult to find black American transgender models willing to work for us. Now we get too many - we have to turn away many models or put them on hold, until we have a gap in the schedule. I believe this is partially because the internet and our sites have made it more acceptable for tgirl models to work on these sorts of sites, as well as having a new crop of photographers who are more involved in the trangender communities. More and more of these models are wanting to do hardcore work with us.

By that logic ya'll should have more girls that look like Amber rather than some of the more masculine looking model I see on there. I'm jsut sayin though..............

There are some really hot black trannies, but i think since blacktgirls caters to dudes who just want anything black (meaning tv or ts) with a big dick, all they care about is the dick so they'll photograph dudes willing to put on a wig for a quick buck. Most dudes into ts mainly for the dick only cant seem to distinguish the difference between a ts and a tv anyway, as long as there's long hair and a big dick, they're happy.

Willie Escalade
08-16-2011, 11:15 PM
More of Sheeba and Sasha Strokes is a good thing.

TSPornFan
08-16-2011, 11:43 PM
I'm not understand the logic behind this idea. This seems more like a way to get more money out of people. I'm just going to say it how it is.

You say Grooby cannot afford to have weekly hardcore updates for Black-Tgirls. However, Grooby can afford weekly hardcore updates for Black Shemale Hardcore.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........................................:whistle:

TSPornFan
08-16-2011, 11:46 PM
coming soon another Amberskyi scene maybe? :praying:


The other sites tend to offer excellent looking girls, it's just with blacktgirls is either a hit or miss effort and most of the time, its the later. :(

I totally agree. I rarely join the site unless something caught my eye and then I cancel.


Hahahaha - brilliant.
Don't be a cunt ... I'm just saying

He's not being a cunt. The model quality on Black-Tgirls.com is the worst model quality in all American Transsexual porn. I would rather seen 100 Sheeba Starr scenes than 100 updates with different T-Girls who are masculine.

kilakali
08-16-2011, 11:53 PM
I'm not understand the logic behind this idea. This seems more like a way to get more money out of people. I'm just going to say it how it is.

You say Grooby cannot afford to have weekly hardcore updates for Black-Tgirls. However, Grooby can afford weekly hardcore updates for Black Shemale Hardcore.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........................................:whistle:

For someone who calims to be a "porn critic" you don't have a clue about the industry, or business period. Every site has a budget(BTG) side projects like (BSH) has a completely seperate budget. Seanchai didn't say Grooby couldn't afford it. He said that it wasn't in the budget for BTG...

dgs925
08-17-2011, 12:02 AM
For someone who calims to be a "porn critic" you don't have a clue about the industry, or business period.

That was my thought, but then I read


This seems more like a way to get more money out of people.

So who knows what goes on in the mind of Franklin. I generally don't have a high opinion of Franklin, maybe because I don't consider porn to be a topic worthy of serious scholarship.

flabbybody
08-17-2011, 12:20 AM
coming soon another Amberskyi scene maybe? :praying:

we can only hope to see new stuff from Amber
I'd also like to see lots more of Shante and Unique

TSPornFan
08-17-2011, 12:22 AM
For someone who calims to be a "porn critic" you don't have a clue about the industry, or business period. Every site has a budget(BTG) side projects like (BSH) has a completely seperate budget. Seanchai didn't say Grooby couldn't afford it. He said that it wasn't in the budget for BTG...

The "budget" for the site. The money used for the new site could had went to BTG for more hardcore updates if Grooby wanted to do this, but instead used the money to just make a new site. The money didn't go to BTG because Grooby thought it would be easier to get more money out of people by making another site.

Is it a bad business move? Maybe, maybe not. The greediness is very clear.

hippifried
08-17-2011, 12:41 AM
Okay, it's a new site.
Phew! I was afraid that poor Seanchai forgot or just didn't know.

flabbybody
08-17-2011, 12:47 AM
grooby's been spinning off new web sites from the very start. It's basic marketing to maximize the value of your business. can't see how that's being greedy

GroobySteven
08-17-2011, 01:44 AM
The "budget" for the site. The money used for the new site could had went to BTG for more hardcore updates if Grooby wanted to do this, but instead used the money to just make a new site. The money didn't go to BTG because Grooby thought it would be easier to get more money out of people by making another site.

Is it a bad business move? Maybe, maybe not. The greediness is very clear.

More idiocy from you. Don't you claim to be at college?
BTG updates weekly, it has a set budget that's inline with it's membership. Adding more hardcores to BTG would increase the budget but not the membership, therefore the numbers wouldn't work.

This site is for those specifically looking for Black transsexual hardcore scenes. It has a seperate budget and it hopes to get members only interested in hardcore scenes at the full price (ie; people not interested in joining BTG because they don't want solos) and as a bolt-on membership from BTG current membes (they get it for $10 extra) for those who want extra hardcore.

As Flabbybody stated, we've been accused "greed" from when we first spun off the LadyboyLadyboy, BlackTgirls and Brazilian Transsexuals - and every site since. If we'd stuck only to Shemale Yum then we'd still only be showing 7 sets a week across the whole company. It's business, it's providing the customer what we think they want (based on feedback and stats) and it's moving forward.

Yes we could have added more hardcore scenes other than the one per week, going on BTG but then we'd be losing money - and how long would the site last then?

GroobySteven
08-17-2011, 01:46 AM
You say Grooby cannot afford to have weekly hardcore updates for Black-Tgirls. However, Grooby can afford weekly hardcore updates for Black Shemale

Where did I say that? BlackTgirls already has weekly hardcore updates and that isn't planning to change.

TSPornFan
08-17-2011, 02:55 AM
More idiocy from you. Don't you claim to be at college?
BTG updates weekly, it has a set budget that's inline with it's membership. Adding more hardcores to BTG would increase the budget but not the membership, therefore the numbers wouldn't work.

This site is for those specifically looking for Black transsexual hardcore scenes. It has a seperate budget and it hopes to get members only interested in hardcore scenes at the full price (ie; people not interested in joining BTG because they don't want solos) and as a bolt-on membership from BTG current membes (they get it for $10 extra) for those who want extra hardcore.

As Flabbybody stated, we've been accused "greed" from when we first spun off the LadyboyLadyboy, BlackTgirls and Brazilian Transsexuals - and every site since. If we'd stuck only to Shemale Yum then we'd still only be showing 7 sets a week across the whole company. It's business, it's providing the customer what we think they want (based on feedback and stats) and it's moving forward.

Yes we could have added more hardcore scenes other than the one per week, going on BTG but then we'd be losing money - and how long would the site last then?

You're right. I didn't take into account that the memberbase most likely would not increase. They're already getting one hardcore scene a week. The black TS niche is not very large to say the least.

Personally I think the memberbase would increase if there were better quality models

GroobySteven
08-17-2011, 09:06 PM
You're right. I didn't take into account that the memberbase most likely would not increase. They're already getting one hardcore scene a week. The black TS niche is not very large to say the least.


There is point on sales front where there simply is no more customers, or will their ever be, until a new customer base is found. In porn, the market is saturated - the only new customers come from people turning 18, people getting the ability to bill online and people getting online for the first time. If a new market like China opened up then that would be significant but otherwise, it's slow (unlike 10 yrs ago when many new people were getting online).

Black Tgirls is only ever going to have a limited market, within a limited market (TS). That's why sites work on budgets and producing more content, or investing more in a site may not produce the bigger ROI you were hoping for.

mattavs1
08-22-2011, 10:21 AM
Site seems a good idea. I hope you can have scenes with g-girls and TS on TS action. I'm not into watching males with tg's.

GroobySteven
08-22-2011, 11:57 AM
Site seems a good idea. I hope you can have scenes with g-girls and TS on TS action. I'm not into watching males with tg's.
It's unlikely we're going to do those scenes. Seriously, many US tgirls aren't into it (despite what you see in porn). If someone is really into it, then maybe we would. It's also, in our experience, the least popular of the mixes (with many more people preferring a TS with a male performer).

Take at at http://trannies-fuck.com/ or http://www.shemales-from-hell.com. In Brazil, many more of the tgirls are into girls, tgirls and guys.

Bobby Domino
08-22-2011, 03:31 PM
I think you guys are doing an awesome job. I recently have been focusing my attention on Black T-girls and asking the question as to why I can't find more hardcore scenes. Less than a week later, you guys come up with the new site. I really appreciate it and having read some of the posts, I commend you for offering us more to your already top notch content. It is a niche among a niche. Thanks again!!!


There is point on sales front where there simply is no more customers, or will their ever be, until a new customer base is found. In porn, the market is saturated - the only new customers come from people turning 18, people getting the ability to bill online and people getting online for the first time. If a new market like China opened up then that would be significant but otherwise, it's slow (unlike 10 yrs ago when many new people were getting online).

Black Tgirls is only ever going to have a limited market, within a limited market (TS). That's why sites work on budgets and producing more content, or investing more in a site may not produce the bigger ROI you were hoping for.

Silcc69
08-22-2011, 05:05 PM
I will say this seanchai, most of the girls on here that you posted look solid and it is nice that a majority of the scene's that you posted on here are black on black rather black on white. I do think you should check out bgclive and see if some of the girls would be willing to work with you. There are shit ton of hot girls on there and it seems that 75% are probably escorts too.

tsdvdman
08-22-2011, 10:33 PM
I would love to see this cutie in some hardcore action..or even just in her birthday suit.

Dino Velvet
08-23-2011, 06:29 AM
If a new market like China opened up then that would be significant but otherwise, it's slow (unlike 10 yrs ago when many new people were getting online).

China would be nice. Are there any other potential large markets like China that are closed off now but might be open in the short future? I know nothing at all about the porn business except how to put the DVD in the tray and watch the movie.

yahboy
08-23-2011, 06:37 AM
if you filmed Tameka in a hardcore scene my life would be complete!

Dino Velvet
08-23-2011, 06:40 AM
Natassia Dreams is my favorite.

robertlouis
08-23-2011, 06:46 AM
Natassia Dreams is my favorite.

:iagree: Mine too.

Dino Velvet
08-23-2011, 06:49 AM
:iagree: Mine too.
You like slimmer black girls over bulky thicker ones too?

robertlouis
08-23-2011, 07:10 AM
You like slimmer black girls over bulky thicker ones too?

Yep, black, white, pink, brown, yellow or stripey.

Slim, petite, feminine, every time. Any girl whose most attractive feature is her cock is just not for me.

GroobySteven
08-23-2011, 12:25 PM
China would be nice. Are there any other potential large markets like China that are closed off now but might be open in the short future? I know nothing at all about the porn business except how to put the DVD in the tray and watch the movie.

There are quite a few but it's about how to monetize it.
It would be fantastic if China opened up so we could actually bill there but by far the more exciting prospects are Africa with more and more infrastructure getting put in the continent all the time.
India already has a bit of a porn industry and we do have members there but it would be nice to reach more.

The hardest part is the monetization of the product. You could not charge the average Chinese or Indian the same as you charge the average Japanese, N.American or Western European, so it needs to be balanced.

Willie Escalade
08-23-2011, 12:27 PM
Speaking of China, I wouldn't mind seeing her on the new site...

GroobySteven
08-23-2011, 12:34 PM
Speaking of China, I wouldn't mind seeing her on the new site...

Which China?

Dino Velvet
08-23-2011, 08:17 PM
There are quite a few but it's about how to monetize it.
It would be fantastic if China opened up so we could actually bill there but by far the more exciting prospects are Africa with more and more infrastructure getting put in the continent all the time.
India already has a bit of a porn industry and we do have members there but it would be nice to reach more.

The hardest part is the monetization of the product. You could not charge the average Chinese or Indian the same as you charge the average Japanese, N.American or Western European, so it needs to be balanced.

That's for the response. Good luck on expansion too.:cheers: