No Transexuals in Harry Potter?

[Stavros]

Why are there no transexuals in Harry Potter? I began reading the first in the series, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, and realised after a few pages that JK Rowling had stolen, lifted, copied and basically ransacked a thousand years of parable, fairy story, myth and other people's books to concoct this Potter nonsense, but apparently no sexually ambiguous characters, or maybe I just didn't persevere with it being too busy doing important things. You would have thought having dumped everything else in Potter's peudo-world, she would at least have found time for men in frocks...in real fairy stories, gender ambiguity is often an important theme, try reading Peter Pan, for example....

Ok so the actor Daniel Ratcliffe is brave in his own way, but apparently not this clever marketing phenomenon called Rowling....

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=39939&highlight=harry+potter

http://paulparauan.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/star-of-harry-potter-supports-gays-bisexuals-and-transsexuals/

[runningdownthatdream]

Why are there no transexuals in Harry Potter? I began reading the first in the series, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, and realised after a few pages that JK Rowling had stolen, lifted, copied and basically ransacked a thousand years of parable, fairy story, myth and other people's books to concoct this Potter nonsense, but apparently no sexually ambiguous characters, or maybe I just didn't persevere with it being too busy doing important things. You would have thought having dumped everything else in Potter's peudo-world, she would at least have found time for men in frocks...in real fairy stories, gender ambiguity is often an important theme, try reading Peter Pan, for example....

Ok so the actor Daniel Ratcliffe is brave in his own way, but apparently not this clever marketing phenomenon called Rowling....

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=39939&highlight=harry+potter

http://paulparauan.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/star-of-harry-potter-supports-gays-bisexuals-and-transsexuals/

JK Rowling seems to be the UK equivalent of Dan Brown. Just read a lot of books and then create a gumbo of all their ideas, themes, stories, then apply some clever marketing and voila! 21st century 'novel'.

[DL_NL]

Why are there no transexuals in Harry Potter?
Because the story doesn't require them, or the writer sees no need to include one? Geez, talk about obsession... despite being on this site, there are lots of things I can do without transsexuals on my mind.

[scroller]

create a gumbo of all their ideas, themes

Kind of like this nutso complaint on HA.

[nonnonnon]

they would magically get srs

[amberskyi]

they would magically get srs

lmaooooooo...best answer.

[Faldur]

I think the directors were afraid they would use their "magic wands".

[TSPornFan]

People like Harry Potter?

[fred41]

This isn't a serious thread...is it?

[BraveHeartz]

People like Harry Potter?

Clearly not, it only made 100 million in 24 hours.

Pocket change.

[rasta]

although i dont care that is not part of the movie.. you make a point..
in ancient texts ,, the intersexed is a crucial narrative plot in the understanding of the universe.. if i find some info i will post..

[Tiffany Anne]

There are comedy crossdressers (ala Milton Berle) in the 4th book.

[robertlouis]

Why are there no transexuals in Harry Potter? I began reading the first in the series, Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, and realised after a few pages that JK Rowling had stolen, lifted, copied and basically ransacked a thousand years of parable, fairy story, myth and other people's books to concoct this Potter nonsense, but apparently no sexually ambiguous characters, or maybe I just didn't persevere with it being too busy doing important things. You would have thought having dumped everything else in Potter's peudo-world, she would at least have found time for men in frocks...in real fairy stories, gender ambiguity is often an important theme, try reading Peter Pan, for example....

Ok so the actor Daniel Ratcliffe is brave in his own way, but apparently not this clever marketing phenomenon called Rowling....

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=39939&highlight=harry+potter

http://paulparauan.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/star-of-harry-potter-supports-gays-bisexuals-and-transsexuals/

I don't recall too many transgender characters in Dickens, Zola or Steinbeck either.

What's your point?

[Stavros]

I don't recall too many transgender characters in Dickens, Zola or Steinbeck either.
What's your point?

My point, evident in the first post, was that JK Rowling had ransacked other people's and other culture's literary works to concoct her fantasy, so how did she manage to miss out on gender ambiguity? Mythological work often has this element in it; its not present in Dickens because Dickens was a moral coward; not present in Zola because he was a man of limited perception; and not in Steinbeck because he was an even greater coward than Dickens. More or less everything else is in Harry Potter as part of the wow-how-original-good-defeats-evil floss. Surely one of the magic pupils in Hogwarts would be blonde, cute and male? Hogwarts, after all, is a phantasmagoric version of Eton, Harrow, Charterhouse, Rugby and so on -where the privileged go to be educated, and where the introduction to sex was inevitably steered along male channels....surprised noone else has got it, unless -in the films anyway- Alan Rickman's character with his robes and long hair is a closet queen...??

[Teydyn]

So you want a TS to be included just so a TS is included?

[DL_NL]

Watched the morning news today, no transsexuals in that either. Where can I complain?

[BraveHeartz]

Hermione and Fleur turn into Harry in Deathly Hallows.

They grew dicks and had them removed in the space of a couple of chapters. I'd say that counts as transition.

[Merkurie]

There was a transexual character in "The Matrix" story -- itself a rehash of generations of myth and allegory.
Can anyone guess who?

[amberskyi]

its okay to have interest outside of transsexuals you know lmao.
harry potter started off as a childrens novel that grew into something a bit more complex and darker as the generation that first started to read her books got older.i think its an amazing piece of literature.it encourages children (and many adults) to read an actual full length novel (which is becoming rarer for people to do sadly.its frightening to think how many people in america are actually functioning illiterates),expand their vocabulary and develop their comprehension skills.
also you might to keep in mind that everything is recycled (religion,art,fashion,even science).of course there are going to be elements from other mythologies and cultures in her book.a good artist is some one who can take alittle bit of some thing and not only bring a new perspective but build something new upon (which i think she has more that done).

[LibertyHarkness]

i have all the harry potter books .. i enjoyed them ... they were fun not ground breaking books like tolkein and cs lewis but enjoyable to read ...

[Stavros]

There was a transexual character in "The Matrix" story -- itself a rehash of generations of myth and allegory.
Can anyone guess who?

No, unless its Trinity...??

This was actually a light-hearted not an earnest topic that I generated, I cant deny that if Harry Potter has got people reading books on that level it is a welcome success. If there was a serious point it was that Rowling has trawled through so much pre-existing literature, and uses a public school model for Hogwarts, and is clued into youth culture and so on -whatever, it doesn't have to be there.

[Merkurie]

There was a transexual character in "The Matrix" story -- itself a rehash of generations of myth and allegory.
Can anyone guess who?

No, unless its Trinity...??



It was Switch. She was written as a transgender who was female within the Matrix -- since within the Matrix you are a digital reflection of your mental self -- and male in the "real world".

It was changed so as not to "confuse" the audience.
One of the Wachowski's is transgendered.