Bush in some trouble....

[BlackAdder]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060102/ap_on_go_pr_wh/domestic_spying




hmm...Clinton goes through impeachment because he swore he didnt have sex with Monica....

I wonder whats going to happen to Bush when its found out how many laws *he's* broken....

[jt money]

Maybe he will send some tomahawks into an empty al Qaeda training camp as a distraction from his legal troubles? Sorry, wrong president! :wink:

[December]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060102/ap_on_go_pr_wh/domestic_spying




hmm...Clinton goes through impeachment because he swore he didnt have sex with .....

I wonder whats going to happen to Bush when its found out how many laws *he's* broken....

The spirited and very effective defense Clinton mounted in the 1990's means that GW doesn't have a lot to worry about even if allegations prove correct-funny how it works, isn't it? The Clinton impeachment circus basically set the stage to give a hunting license to any crook that can get into office. Had there been any actual price involved, GW might have something to worry about.

[Felicia Katt]

I agree with you that Bush doesn't have to worry about getting impeached, but only because the Republican's control the House and Senate and are fiercely partisan. Fibbing about sex is a high crime if you are a Democratic president. Lying about weapons of mass destruction and blowing the cover of a CIA agent who calls you on your deceptions are overlooked for a GOP one. Clinton was right to defend himself so ferociously because it was an abuse of the process, tantamount to a coup, and would have set a very dangerous precedent.
FK

[Ecstatic]

What Felicia said! And the counterpoint that the real issue wasn't that Clinton lied about sex, but that he lied altogether, is the ultimate red herring.

[brickcitybrother]

Folks - its never the crime (its the cover-up). And this time is seems the stategy is going to be simple - NO COVER UPS! Bush is coming out saying 'Yes I did it and I'll do again. Hell, I haven't stopped.' To let you know how far this strategy is going, notice that a special investigation has begun to find out (get this girls and boys) - who leaked the story in the first place. Talk about bold moves. Forget the story of illegal spying on Americans, move the spotlight to the 'unamerican' asshole or assholes who leaked the story about the spying.

This is spin and thought-creep at the very best.

[BeardedOne]

When Disney's box-office babe, Tim Allen, was caught red-handed (Or should I say, 'white-nosed') in a big drug scandal some years back, the spin docs went with full disclosure and Allen came out squeaky-clean (But was bagged on coke again in a later incident). So, the new concept is: If you fuck up, fess up, and everything will be OK.

Clinton lied about a blowjob. His bad.
The feds (Repubs at the fore) spent millions of our hard-earned tax dollars spanking him for said BJ. Our bad.

Shrubya's treading water, hoping the spin will save him. If we prosecute now, two +/- years from his departure, we're only spanking a dead monkey.

Um...As it were.

Was it Buchanan, our gay president, who was so reviled that they had to hide his portrait in the Capital rotunda because of fears of vandalism?

History will judge him.

[Sidney]

C'mon. That rumor about President Buchanan was not called for.

You want the first gay president? How about Eleanor Roosevelt? (She allegedly kept the country together and ran the government while her husband was unable to perform the duties of the state--or his husbandly duties, and was believed to have had a female lover.)

How about Lyndon Johnson? (His boat trips with young boys were the stuff of scandal. And his administration was the stuff of scandal.)

How about Richard Nixon? (He (famously) stopped having sex with his wife and hung out with his "best friend" Bebe Rebozo on so many social occasions that it became the stuff of gossip.)

Anyhow, "gay" doesn't apply very well to sexual behavior before the 20th century. "Homosexuality" had not been isolated as a human behavior yet. It was what it was... There are similar rumors about Abraham Lincoln, but they just don't ring very true...

From Wikipedia.com:
In 1819 Buchanan was engaged to Ann Caroline Coleman, the daughter of a wealthy iron manufacturer. However she abruptly broke off their engagement and died from an overdose of laudanum several days later [1]. After his fiancée’s death Buchanan vowed he would never marry. He would live with Alabama senator William Rufus King for sixteen years in Washington, D.C., but King died four years before Buchanan became president. Rumors and speculation circulated that the two had a homosexual relationship, with references to Buchanan's "wife" and "better half", and former President Andrew Jackson referred to King as "Miss Nancy". On occasion, Buchanan even referred to King as "Aunt Nancy". It should be noted that 19th century comments like those by Andrew Jackson and others were not necessarily meant to imply homosexuality. Eighteenth and nineteenth century cultural standards were very different than twenty-first century standards. (Heterosexual men commonly shared the same quarters and beds in boarding houses. Language expressed sentiments differently as well, such as Thomas Jefferson signing his letters to John Adams "affectionately yours.") Buchanan's sexual orientation remains uncertain, but he was presumed heterosexual.

[chefmike]

And speaking of Eleanor Roosevelt, let's not forget the scandalous rumors concerning the current first lady (Mrs. Monkeyboy) and Ann Coulter...

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