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dbev
06-02-2011, 06:21 PM
YouTube - ‪MOTHER MOLESTED BY TSA AS SHE SCREAMS FOR HELP RE-UPLOADED WITH APPROVAL‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVfWCwvg88E)

south ov da border
06-02-2011, 07:49 PM
Seeing as the same bankers are financing the debt of this country, why wouldn't it be...

dgs925
06-02-2011, 07:53 PM
I couldn't be bothered to watch the whole video, but from the first minute the woman seems like a hysterical crazy person. Molested, my ass, it's just a fucking pat-down.

iamdrgonzo
06-02-2011, 09:20 PM
Molested, my ass, it's just a fucking pat-down.

It's called humiliation.

You slowly bring the water to a boil so as the frogs do not leap from the pot.

These types of intrusive/invasive "security" procedures are used to condition a nations population for futher depravations of their persons and property.

Prior to the creation of the TSA I flew on average 100,000 to 150,000 miles per year. Today I'll either drive, take a train or be passenger on board a ship rather than allow myself to be treated as a criminal in order to fly.

As for what happened to the US it is called a military/elitist coup d'etat the initial stages began in 1963 with the assassination of JFK.

If you have the stomach for it give the book a read:



Amazon.com: JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters (9781570757556): James W. Douglass: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/410Hs0V1ROL.@@AMEPARAM@@410Hs0V1ROL (http://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1570757550)


It is well sourced and referenced using first person testimony (disregarded by the FBI during it's investigation) and many FOIA requests.


The US is no longer a nation of laws it has decended down the rabbit hole to become a nation of men. Its all over but the crying, Ceasar has decreed.

iamdrgonzo
06-02-2011, 09:39 PM
PS The US Constitution is dead and the republic has fallen.

Ineeda SM
06-02-2011, 09:55 PM
The woman in the video has lost at least 65% of her marbles. She is screaming she is being molested, while nobody is even touching her. I would bet she didn't take her meds that day, or maybe ever.

It's a fucking patdown for your safety. The alternative is to allow all kinds of weapons to be carried onboard the plane. Duh! If that woman is that unstable in the terminal, how will she react on the plane if she just thinks another passenger is a terrorist with a gun? People like her should not be allowed to roam free outside a mental hospital.

Just shut up, take the lousy 5 second patdown and enjoy the flight. Dont be a pussy.

iamdrgonzo
06-02-2011, 10:07 PM
The woman in the video has lost at least 65% of her marbles. She is screaming she is being molested, while nobody is even touching her. I would bet she didn't take her meds that day, or maybe ever.

It's a fucking patdown for your safety. The alternative is to allow all kinds of weapons to be carried onboard the plane. Duh! If that woman is that unstable in the terminal, how will she react on the plane if she just thinks another passenger is a terrorist with a gun? People like her should not be allowed to roam free outside a mental hospital.

Just shut up, take the lousy 5 second patdown and enjoy the flight. Dont be a pussy.

How many "terrorists" has the TSA discovered attempting to board planes at airports?

Less than 10% of all cargo carried on passanger air flights is screened.

As for just shutting up and take the lousy 5 second pat down, would your advice to someone being raped just lie back and take it?

If someone is willing to give their life for whatever their cause what would stop that person from placing plastic-explosives in their rectum and detonating while in flight?

However does the rest of the flying world get by without being humiliated at the airport?

Ineeda SM
06-02-2011, 10:18 PM
How many "terrorists" has the TSA discovered attempting to board planes at airports?

Only a few these days. I guess it's working.


As for just shutting up and take the lousy 5 second pat down, would your advice to someone being raped just lie back and take it?

You must be kidding! You are comparing a lousy 5 second patdown for your safety, to being raped? What are you, and asshole? You talk like the loony toons woman in the video. Cut the conspiracy theory pussy crap and join the real world.

dgs925
06-02-2011, 10:18 PM
Ahhh, I get it, iamdrgonzo is a conspiracy theory nutjob. Listen to Alex Jones much? Where do you think our president was born? Who do you think brought down the two towers?

iamdrgonzo
06-02-2011, 10:37 PM
Only a few these days. I guess it's working.



You must be kidding! You are comparing a lousy 5 second patdown for your safety, to being raped? What are you, and asshole? You talk like the loony toons woman in the video. Cut the conspiracy theory pussy crap and join the real world.


The number of terrorists detected by TSA is ZERO.

No I'm not kidding if you, your family and your friends want to subject yourselves to your 5 seconds of TSA bliss you are free to do so.

Conspiracy? Only fact.

Every rational person believes children and old women should profiled as possible terrrorists same goes for returning US service people on commercial flights.

Learn your history all militaristic empires eventually turn in on themselves and subjugate their own.

Wake up.

iamdrgonzo
06-02-2011, 10:39 PM
Ahhh, I get it, iamdrgonzo is a conspiracy theory nutjob. Listen to Alex Jones much? Where do you think our president was born? Who do you think brought down the two towers?

What does either of your questions have to do with the TSA?

When did you stop taking your meds?

trish
06-02-2011, 11:10 PM
Jesus dgs92, don't you know these are just the techniques used by cyborgs and aliens beings everywhere in the galaxy to slowly acclimate societies to greater and greater restrictions on their liberty until suddenly one day...they have no liberty!? Didn't you learn anything from Battle Star Galactica?

Personally I don't let anyone pat me down before I see the money on the dressing table, let alone stand in line for sixty minutes with skyjackers and other filth just for the privilege of two seconds of foreplay by a TSA officer. I get more attention than that from my domestic partner of five years. Out of boredom most of the scum and slime leave the line for better prospects before they get to the scanners...which explains why there seem to be so few aerial terrorist attempts these days. I believe the strategy is called "intimidation by boredom and risk of being caught carrying too much tooth paste".

Anyways, the Constitution has already been rewritten by the cyborgs who thrive by eating liberty. Once its all gone, they'll leave us alone. Conspiracy? No, FACT. Have you seen the Constitution lately??? Has anyone here seen it in say the last three weeks? (crickets) I thought not.

Learn your history. Foresee your future. Take your vitamins and brush your teeth. The citizens of the largest empires generally assume for themselves the largest share of liberty, and that's the truth.

south ov da border
06-03-2011, 04:56 AM
tsa can become an enforcement agency if their power is not checked...

Ineeda SM
06-03-2011, 06:18 AM
No I'm not kidding if you, your family and your friends want to subject yourselves to your 5 seconds of TSA bliss you are free to do so.

Conspiracy? Only fact.

Every rational person believes children and old women should profiled as possible terrrorists same goes for returning US service people on commercial flights.

Learn your history all militaristic empires eventually turn in on themselves and subjugate their own.

Wake up.

Damn what planet are you from? I have had the pat-down several times at the airport. It is far from bliss for the patter or the pattee. There is nothing sexual or invasive about it. It's a fucking pat down like any other pat-down in history. Millions of people do it every day, and have a great flight. It actually takes about 12 seconds, then you move on to the plane knowing nobody else has knives or guns. If it deters just one asshole from trying to bring a weapon onto the plane, then it's a job well done.

As stupid as it sounds to pat-down children and servicemen, the past has proven how fucktards love to hide illegal contriban in a childs diaper and a servicemans bulky khakis. Unfortunately there are stupid people who have tried it and got caught. Blame them and not the TSA. We live in a new world of terrorism that can come from anyone. Is it better to do nothing at all and let the terrorist keep taking planes and killing the passengers. If you have a better method to stop people from bringing weapons aboard a plane, tell the TSA now, or shut the hell up and stop being such a conspiracy pussy.

Stavros
06-03-2011, 08:51 AM
Its not clear to me, but the video seems to have been shot in the departure lounge after travellers pass through security; it also does not show the woman being touched; and I don't know the law but certainly its normally not allowed for anyone to photograph or film the security process, ie when you move through the electronic gate; not sure about what the law is for the departure lounge.

The disturbing thing to me is the casual way the man has videoed the incident, without asking the woman concerned if she wants to be published like this on YouTube -does she know this material is out there?

The broader issue is not whether you have all lost your 'freedom' to the TSA, but why airports have their own security procedures, varying even in the same country. In some US airports I have been asked to remove my shoes before walking through the gate, in others not; in others sneakers/trainers are ok but others have to be taken off. In some airports I have to remove the belt from my trousers, in others not. Yet never have I been asked to open my main luggage at the check-in desk -which is precisely the luggage in which bombs tend to be placed- only to confirm I packed it myself etc, although I assume the luggage then gets electronically searched before going into the plane -? So it is hand-luggage and clothing that is the security concern before entering the departure lounge. In some airports -I noticed it in Germany (Berlin)- the security gate is at the specific gate of departure not the entry into the main departure lounge; and I also almost missed my flight once because of the attitude of the staff at the security in Heathrow -it is in fact easy to wind up a passenger, particularly if they are running late, because of a minor infringement of the rules, like having toothpaste in your hand luggage. Experienced travellers just keep their mouths shut and endure it. But I dont see it as the end of civilisation as we have known it.

My experience is that American airports vary enormously; last time I passed through JFK and LAX I was struck by the absence of shops and places to eat, because I noticed it when getting a connecting flight through Milwaukee. I was at JFK for an early morning flight and the only facility selling coffee and a snack was a small van just outside the terminal; but I didn't see any cafes there anyway. In Europe and Asia there are shops and cafes all over the place, before and after going through security.
Oh no, is there going to be an airport thread??????

hippifried
06-03-2011, 11:06 AM
Well, I don't know about y'all, but I always feel so much safer when everybody around me is in an official frenzied reactionary panic. I'm especially comforted by the fact that the baggage handler who left the note telling me that they'd rifled through my checked luggage was able to get the bag closed again. I'm sure the national security was enhanced tremendously when they took the pocket knife out of my bag before loading it into the belly of the plane. Wouldn't want to have a weapon on board. By golly we're gonna stop that attack that happened 10 years ago.

Stavros
06-03-2011, 08:40 PM
I'm especially comforted by the fact that the baggage handler who left the note telling me that they'd rifled through my checked luggage was able to get the bag closed again. I'm sure the national security was enhanced tremendously when they took the pocket knife out of my bag before loading it into the belly of the plane.

I dont know what the rules are, but I assumed if it happened they would ask to see you before they open your luggage--?? The other question is why would you pack a pocket knife in your luggage anyway? I did once have my luggage searched because they couldn't work out from the image what my shaver was, it took about 10 minutes to sort out but it was in my toilet bag and is not a dangerous weapon like a pocket knife....

NYBURBS
06-04-2011, 12:47 AM
I'm especially comforted by the fact that the baggage handler who left the note telling me that they'd rifled through my checked luggage was able to get the bag closed again. I'm sure the national security was enhanced tremendously when they took the pocket knife out of my bag before loading it into the belly of the plane.

I dont know what the rules are, but I assumed if it happened they would ask to see you before they open your luggage--?? The other question is why would you pack a pocket knife in your luggage anyway? I did once have my luggage searched because they couldn't work out from the image what my shaver was, it took about 10 minutes to sort out but it was in my toilet bag and is not a dangerous weapon like a pocket knife....

A dangerous weapon like a pocket knife? LOL. It's in checked cargo and would be no more dangerous than a heavy blunt object, but either way it's still checked and out of reach of the person. As someone else pointed out, if a person is that determined to down a flight then they will get through. Are you all going to be ok with having a hand stuck up your ass once they realize people can smuggle something on board doing that?

hippifried
06-04-2011, 01:42 AM
I dont know what the rules are, but I assumed if it happened they would ask to see you before they open your luggage--?? The other question is why would you pack a pocket knife in your luggage anyway? I did once have my luggage searched because they couldn't work out from the image what my shaver was, it took about 10 minutes to sort out but it was in my toilet bag and is not a dangerous weapon like a pocket knife....
Well apparently if there are any rules, nobody knows what they are.

I'm not talking about carry on baggage here. I'm talking about the bags you give to the skycap when you get to the airport, & don't see again till you pull them off the roundy-round thingie after reaching your destination. Flying's turned into such a pain in the ass that I don't do carry on baggage anymore. I refuse to go anywhere that's cold, so I show up at the gate in shorts, sandals, & a tee shirt. The only thing I'm carrying is my wallet, cell phone (turned off of course), necessary paperwork, & a book. I've had my checked baggage searched just about every time I fly, since I found the note. Prior to that, I never thought about it. since then, I always pack in such a way that I can tell if the bag's been opened. I've never been asked or notified, except for the note telling me they had siezed the knife.

The knife is a tool. Folded up, it's about 1.5 inches long. It has one sharp blade, a wire cutting & stripping tool, a flat screwdriver, & a phillips. The replacement I had to buy is in my pocket right now. It's not illegal at all. I packed it in the checked bag so I wouldn't have it with me on the plane. Once I checked the bag, it wasn't a weapon by any possible stretgh of the imagination, until somebody who's either stupid or a thief took it out & held it in their hand.

All this draconian nonsense has gone way over the top & hasn't accomplished anything. Drgonzo is a total flake, but he's right about TSA being 100% ineffective. All this crap predates 9/11. It just got more intense & stupid from that point. The 2 bombers who've been caught (shoe & underwear) had already made it onto the plane. I'm not seeing any accomplishment here, unless the object is just to create inconvenience.

Stavros
06-04-2011, 01:58 AM
I do agree that the barriers to security are both excessive and to a determined killer ineffective -many guitarists have a long fingernail to pluck with, many women have long fingernails, which used in a certain way could caused serious damage: are people to have their fingernails checked, and if necessary, cut? If it happened in the UK they would charge you to buy a pair of nail scissors first, then stand and watch you do it, etc etc. I can understand why people if they can travel with next to nothing, I doubt that this situation is going to change soon.

hippifried
06-04-2011, 06:42 AM
are people to have their fingernails checked, and if necessary, cut? If it happened in the UK they would charge you to buy a pair of nail scissors first, then stand and watch you do it, etc etc.

...& then they'd be confiscated, because you can't take those on the plane either...

Stavros
06-07-2011, 11:44 AM
Before anyone makes a joke about cruising, let me just say I am not big on boats; this story does suggest that talking down to a Port Official in LA is very not good...when will people learn that however much they pay for their trip, they must pay absolute respect to the uniforms...?

Cruise passengers tell of 7 hour security 'revenge' nightmare

It was billed as a chance to taste the “glitz and glamour” of Hollywood or enjoy VIP treatment in some of the most exclusive shopping areas in the world.

Setting off from Southampton on April 12, the cruise has taken in stops in Europe, the Caribbean, Central America, crossing the Panama Canal to travel up the west coast of the United States to Alaska Photo: ALAMY
By Andy Bloxham (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andybloxham/), and John Bingham (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/john-bingham/)
Daily Telegraph 07 Jun 2011
But when a group of 2,000 elderly British cruise ship passengers docked at Los Angeles for a short stop-off during a five-star cruise around America it was, in the words of one of them, more like arriving at Guantanamo Bay.
During their £10,000, two-and-a-half month “Alaska Adventure” tour from the Arctic to the Caribbean, the passengers on the luxury P&O liner Arcadia had become more than accustomed to passing US immigration with little formality.
By the time they docked at Los Angeles on May 26, for a one-day visit it was their 10th stop on US soil.
But when a handful of them questioned whether the lengthy security checks at the port were strictly necessary for a group of largely elderly travellers officials were not amused.
Although they had already been given advance clearance for multiple entries to the country during their trip, all 2,000 passengers were made to go through full security checks in a process which took seven hours to complete.
The fingerprints of both hands were taken as well as retina scans and a detailed check of the passport as well as questioning as to their background.
Passengers claim that the extra checks were carried out in “revenge” for what had been a minor spat over allegedly overzealous security.
They complain that they were “herded like animals” and made to stand for hours in temperatures up to 80F with no food or water or access to lavatories.
Some are said to have passed out in the heat while others were left confused and bewildered.
When one lady asked in desperation whether she could use a bathroom, one immigration official is said to have replied: “Do it over the side, we won’t mind.”
To compound the situation, the officials' computer broke down and further delays resulted.
The immigration delays forced P&O to extend the stay in LA by a day forcing it to cancel a later stop-off at Roatan, Honduras, scheduled for this week.
Setting off from Southampton on April 12, the cruise has taken in stops in Europe, the Caribbean, Central America, crossing the Panama Canal to travel up the west coast of the United States to Alaska.
They were en route back to the canal before stops in Florida and New York when the ship stopped at LA last week and the immigration problems ensued
With a total of 15 stops scheduled at US ports during the 72-night cruise, the passengers had all completed standard US immigration (ESTA) forms designed for multiple-entry trips.
"A couple of passengers got a bit stroppy about having to go through all the rigmarole again and these petulant officials decided to take revenge,” said John Randall, 60, a retired dentist from Wigan, who bought the cruise as a retirement gift to his wife.
"There were about 2,000 people on the quayside with only eight immigration people.
“They were just doing basic checks to begin with but after the argument we had to do full finger prints on left and right hands and all the biometric stuff.
"Then their computer system broke down but no one was bothered about helping us.
“A couple of people struggled to control their bladders and someone said they'd suffered a prolapsed disc.”
He emphasized that he did not blame the liner for difficulties, but in a letter to the captain he vented his feelings about the immigration procedures adding: “We are holiday makers, here to try and enjoy ourselves - we are not potential inmates of Guantalamo Bay, and should not be treated as such.”
A spokeswoman for the company insisted that passengers were kept on the vessel to prevent them queuing for more than about an hour.
She added: “The delay in immigration procedures was largely to blame on issues with the Customs and Border Protection (CBP) computer systems, not aided by the verbal approach that a minority of our passengers, clearly frustrated by this delay, took with the local immigration officers.
“The US has a record for the most stringent and thorough security and entry requirements in the world, and they felt the need to enhance their security checks further, which they have the power to do.”

Prospero
06-07-2011, 12:37 PM
Going through immigration at airports around the world now is a trial. It's unclear if something happened before this video was shot or if this woman was simply a hysterical person. We cannot know because there is no additional info so as a piece of evidence of supposed abuse it is meaningless. It's simply a woman screaming blue murder. And the guy shooting it was being told he should stop. it's the rules. For good or bad.

Going through this is now like running the gauntlet and I've seen deeply abusive behaviour by what are clearly not very bright people appointed to jobs where their little piece of power makes them act like little Hitlers. Vindictive little people with a modicum of power. I've seen the same sort of thing on the road in Africa and the mid-east. Worst really for you can often get a Kalashnikov in your face down there. They make your life unpleasant, point guns at you, torment you and then expect a pay-off. They usually get it. At least that doesn't happen at US airports or ports.

I'm afraid that I don't see this as a symptom of a creeping takeover my the military-industrial complex. That MIGHT be a reality but our experience at airports doesn't provide substantive evidence for that.

These plots and attempts to down aircraft DO take place. 9/11 proved that, Lockerbie proved that, the failed underpants bomber, the shoe bomber and the plot that failed involving attempts to blow up many aircraft mid-Atlalntic proved that. Other assassinations have occured in mid-air (General Zia of Pakistan is now generaly believed to have been killed by a bomb in his aircraft). So I accept this unpleasantness. I'd rather endure rudeness than be dead before arrival.

joeninety
06-07-2011, 12:58 PM
Damn what planet are you from? I have had the pat-down several times at the airport. It is far from bliss for the patter or the pattee. There is nothing sexual or invasive about it. It's a fucking pat down like any other pat-down in history. Millions of people do it every day, and have a great flight. It actually takes about 12 seconds, then you move on to the plane knowing nobody else has knives or guns. If it deters just one asshole from trying to bring a weapon onto the plane, then it's a job well done.

As stupid as it sounds to pat-down children and servicemen, the past has proven how fucktards love to hide illegal contriban in a childs diaper and a servicemans bulky khakis. Unfortunately there are stupid people who have tried it and got caught. Blame them and not the TSA. We live in a new world of terrorism that can come from anyone. Is it better to do nothing at all and let the terrorist keep taking planes and killing the passengers. If you have a better method to stop people from bringing weapons aboard a plane, tell the TSA now, or shut the hell up and stop being such a conspiracy pussy.

Another mindless conditioned sheep me thinks, whose the terrorists last time i checked George war 2 said "hey you guys guess what our ex-man Saddam has got weapons of ass destruction yada yada yada so we gotta go to war with this dude, don't you worry you'll see we are telling the truth"............

Cool so where are these weapons most of which George war 2 Daddy's forebearers sold to Mr Saddam to fight the other terrorists the Iranians, oh thats right its another conspiracy actually Bush didn't say there were any weapons, and i'm also just a loony tunes making shit up, wake up you Muppet and go and learn some history

hippifried
06-07-2011, 07:42 PM
I really think the biggest problem is that nobody knows what to look for. All this enhanced security is reactions to whatever the last attempt was. That's what the focus is, & it's not going to happen again. There hasn't been an attempt to "hijack" another plane since 9/11, because everybody knows the passengers won't allow it. They took those planes with nothing more than a bunch of chutzpah & knowlege that the flying public had been indoctrinated in the idea that they should just sit & wait for the "professionals" to save the day. Not anymore. The security people at the airports have been searching passengers & carry-on baggage since the early '70s, after D B Cooper in '71 & the raft of copycats the next year. It's been a coulple of years for me, but what're they looking for now? Underwear I imagine. The last one, that won't be tried again.

onmyknees
06-08-2011, 03:16 AM
Damn what planet are you from? I have had the pat-down several times at the airport. It is far from bliss for the patter or the pattee. There is nothing sexual or invasive about it. It's a fucking pat down like any other pat-down in history. Millions of people do it every day, and have a great flight. It actually takes about 12 seconds, then you move on to the plane knowing nobody else has knives or guns. If it deters just one asshole from trying to bring a weapon onto the plane, then it's a job well done.

As stupid as it sounds to pat-down children and servicemen, the past has proven how fucktards love to hide illegal contriban in a childs diaper and a servicemans bulky khakis. Unfortunately there are stupid people who have tried it and got caught. Blame them and not the TSA. We live in a new world of terrorism that can come from anyone. Is it better to do nothing at all and let the terrorist keep taking planes and killing the passengers. If you have a better method to stop people from bringing weapons aboard a plane, tell the TSA now, or shut the hell up and stop being such a conspiracy pussy.

I never really thought you were particularily sophisticated, and my impressions remain in tact. You completely missed his point. No fucking individual looking to cause mass causalities is going to stand in line to be pat down by some minimum wage pinhead. What they're confiscating is pocket knives and nail clippers you moron. It's a fucking show...that's all it is. It's the biggest waste of time there is....just like them confiscating shampoo in your carry on if it's over 5 ounces. You're a fool if you truly believe that's making your flying experience safer. It's about making you think you're safer...a feel good exercise, but of course you fall for it hook, line and sinker... He is absolutely correct that less than 5% of all cargo and baggage is properly screened. Want to blow up a plane? Your odds are pretty good by putting it in your luggage .

joeninety
06-08-2011, 01:11 PM
I never really thought you were particularily sophisticated, and my impressions remain in tact. You completely missed his point. No fucking individual looking to cause mass causalities is going to stand in line to be pat down by some minimum wage pinhead. What they're confiscating is pocket knives and nail clippers you moron. It's a fucking show...that's all it is. It's the biggest waste of time there is....just like them confiscating shampoo in your carry on if it's over 5 ounces. You're a fool if you truly believe that's making your flying experience safer. It's about making you think you're safer...a feel good exercise, but of course you fall for it hook, line and sinker... He is absolutely correct that less than 5% of all cargo and baggage is properly screened. Want to blow up a plane? Your odds are pretty good by putting it in your luggage .


:Bowdown: :iagree: hopefully this msg will give that mindless sheep:confused: some food for thought:praying:

NYBURBS
06-08-2011, 04:59 PM
just like them confiscating shampoo in your carry on if it's over 5 ounces.

Ya the limit on liquids over a certain amount seems pretty pointless. Just have 4 guys go through security with 5 ounces each, and then meet in a bathroom to surreptitiously transfer them to one person. Then the other 3 get on other flights, and the one bomber gets on a plane loaded with liquid explosives. Of course, I'm sure our security gurus realize this, but they probably figure that if it happens at least they can say they tried, and then they also have a reason to institute even stricter measures.

Ben
06-09-2011, 01:14 AM
And we need to, well, live in a democracy. Not a plutocracy. Which is: rule by the rich, for the rich and of the rich....

YouTube - ‪Bill Moyers on Democracy‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OU6bfmfQIo)

YouTube - ‪Bill Moyers on Plutonomy‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSoglDcRbAg)

notdrunk
06-09-2011, 05:38 AM
Ya the limit on liquids over a certain amount seems pretty pointless. Just have 4 guys go through security with 5 ounces each, and then meet in a bathroom to surreptitiously transfer them to one person. Then the other 3 get on other flights, and the one bomber gets on a plane loaded with liquid explosives. Of course, I'm sure our security gurus realize this, but they probably figure that if it happens at least they can say they tried, and then they also have a reason to institute even stricter measures.

It is probably really dangerous to transfer explosive liquids from one bottle to another. All about risk assessment. Most people have forgotten about Philippine Airlines Flight 434.

Philippine Airlines Flight 434 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Phillipine_Airlines_Bombing_Aftermath.png" class="image"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Phillipine_Airlines_Bombing_Aftermath.png/260px-Phillipine_Airlines_Bombing_Aftermath.png"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/f/fa/Phillipine_Airlines_Bombing_Aftermath.png/260px-Phillipine_Airlines_Bombing_Aftermath.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Airlines_Flight_434)

iamdrgonzo
06-14-2011, 04:33 PM
Any and all who agree with the TSA or any other intrusive and/or liberty denying federal/state entity can stop worrying your indoctrination is complete, you shall now be refered to as:


serf(s).



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