Question for shemale lovers!

[sktrdude6]

I've heard so many shemale lovers say that they don't like the idea of sucking a shemale off or getting topped by a shemale. These are some of my favorite things to do with a shemale. I'm just curious, if you don't like any of this with a shemale, or just like fucking them, then why do you even go for shemales at all?? Aren't these just things that you can do with a genetic girl? (i.e. a girl with a vagina).

Not attacking this group of people or anything. But, I think that a shemale's cock makes them unique, and personally, I'm all for pleasing it however I can :)

[Rolando]

I've never met a "shemale" I didn't like. Top or bottom,all is good

[scroller]

Because many TS don't like their unit, and want to feel like a woman and get SRS. This is a way for a certain kind of guy to "play" them.

[giovanni_hotel]

You're generalizing.

Stick around longer than 4 posts, most guys on here IMO take a reciprocal approach to tgirls, sexually speaking.

[sktrdude6]

I've never met a "shemale" I didn't like. Top or bottom,all is good

Same here dude, though I do prefer top. I've been hearing people say that they don't like to suck off or get topped by shemales quite a bit lately. I don't get it lol, why shemales then??

[dgs925]

Same here dude, though I do prefer top. I've been hearing people say that they don't like to suck off or get topped by shemales quite a bit lately. I don't get it lol, why shemales then??

Um, because it's gay.



ETA: obviously I'm joking, but if you read the threads you are talking about, you'll see that this is exactly the reason people have that opinion. Just let this thread die, you aren't asking anything that hasn't been asked a thousand times in a thousand threads.

[sktrdude6]

You're generalizing.

Stick around longer than 4 posts, most guys on here IMO take a reciprocal approach to tgirls, sexually speaking.

I've been around here for a while. I'm only just now making an account. About generalizing though, I think you misunderstood my question. I'm not so much asking why there are so many. This is aimed at those people who do feel that way about shemales (be they the majority or not, it doesn't matter).

[sktrdude6]

Um, because it's gay.



ETA: obviously I'm joking, but if you read the threads you are talking about, you'll see that this is exactly the reason people have that opinion. Just let this thread die, you aren't asking anything that hasn't been asked a thousand times in a thousand threads.

So then the real question is, why go for shemales at all then if it's gay?

[dgs925]

That may be the real question, but you aren't going to get a real answer that you like.

[sktrdude6]

:dancing:
That may be the real question, but you aren't going to get a real answer that you like.

I kinda figured that. It's natural on a forum to get trolled for a simple question lol. But no harm in trying, eh?

[raybbaby]

I'm calling "troll" on this one. Do you seriously not know better than to call TS women "she-males"?

[DL_NL]

Yawn. See the other 3,527,865 threads on the subject.

[sktrdude6]

I'm calling "troll" on this one. Do you seriously not know better than to call TS women "she-males"?

Maybe, maybe not. If I offended anyone, I apologize, and will not use it again. But at the top my page, I do see something on this website that says "guide to Shemale and Transsexuals". So I figured if it's not offensive for the website to use it, then there's no harm in it. Of course, I might have been wrong, and if so I apologize.

[sktrdude6]

Yawn. See the other 3,527,865 threads on the subject.

I just might. But if you're not answering the question, there's no point in replying.

[sktrdude6]

Because many TS don't like their unit, and want to feel like a woman and get SRS. This is a way for a certain kind of guy to "play" them.

I can understand that. But still, what's the point of going after TS specifically then?

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Boring!!!:banghead:yayo::whistle:

[sktrdude6]

Boring!!!:banghead:yayo::whistle:

then don't read. Wow, wasn't that easy?!

[CORVETTEDUDE]

then don't read. Wow, wasn't that easy?!

Pay attention and you wouldn't have needed to post it. Much more difficult, I know but, give it a try sometime....:loser:

[sktrdude6]

Pay attention and you wouldn't have needed to post it. Much more difficult, I know but, give it a try sometime....:loser:

If I had a nickel. Is there really any point in responding if you're not answering the question?? It's a simple question that doesn't require trolling...

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[Jenny Johnson]

Im a bottom girl by choice, cause dont like fucking, either guys or girls much prefer to be bottom. But a guy or girl can go down on me whenever they want to!

[mikelpo]

Im a bottom girl by choice, cause dont like fucking, either guys or girls much prefer to be bottom. But a guy or girl can go down on me whenever they want to!

Sounds promising jen x

[CORVETTEDUDE]

If I had a nickel. Is there really any point in responding if you're not answering the question?? It's a simple question that doesn't require trolling...

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Ohhh, with 13 posts....you're a fuckin' authority???

[Birgitta]

I can understand that. But still, what's the point of going after TS specifically then?

Perhaps because of the visual aspect,
They may like the sight of a tgirl, watching her become erect...perhaps coz someone is attracted to tgirls on a mental level, or emotional level, perhaps because of her personality or coz she is different in more then one way....

[mikelpo]

I must say Birgitta I enjoy your posts you seem so well educated and clued up on what you've had to go through (and still going through!) to get where you want to be in life.

[Birgitta]

I must say Birgitta I enjoy your posts you seem so well educated and clued up on what you've had to go through (and still going through!) to get where you want to be in life.

Rrrr wow, you're sweet, thanx!

[mikelpo]

Rrrr wow, you're sweet, thanx!

No problem it's nice to be nice sometimes!

[sktrdude6]

Ohhh, with 13 posts....you're a fuckin' authority???
Me, an authority? Nope, I wouldn't say so.


Perhaps because of the visual aspect,
They may like the sight of a tgirl, watching her become erect...perhaps coz someone is attracted to tgirls on a mental level, or emotional level, perhaps because of her personality or coz she is different in more then one way....
I guess that makes sense...the uniqueness is definitely attractive. Maybe people just like the "best of both worlds" thing? idk Thanks for a good answer! :)

[nonnonnon]

I don't know why I like ts. I don't care for weeners but maybe it comes with time

[nicebrn]

Maybe people just like the "best of both worlds" thing? idk Thanks for a good answer! :)
What do you mean, "maybe?" That's been part of the marketing of ts porn for like ten-plus years. ;)

That's just one element. Off the top of my head I can think of at least four more:

-- the mental and emotional thrill of doing something transgressive and outside the norm. If you're a well-adjusted "straight" man, it's certainly kinky to fuck ts girls.

-- acting out a fantasy once the curiosity becomes too great to repress

-- the opinion that ts girls are considerably more likely to seek out and enjoy anal penetration without wanting any other stimulation

-- and of course, unresolved sexuality issues as stated up-thread. These are the ones who have a certain level of cognitive dissonance about what they're doing and why--the ones who have an irresistible attraction to t-girls, but pressure them to "hide the dick" because "more than two dicks in the room is gay."

[Quiet Reflections]

I've heard so many shemale lovers say that they don't like the idea of sucking a shemale off or getting topped by a shemale. These are some of my favorite things to do with a shemale. I'm just curious, if you don't like any of this with a shemale, or just like fucking them, then why do you even go for shemales at all?? Aren't these just things that you can do with a genetic girl? (i.e. a girl with a vagina).

Not attacking this group of people or anything. But, I think that a shemale's cock makes them unique, and personally, I'm all for pleasing it however I can :)
Its wild that so many people get offended when someone doesn't like exactly what they like. I don't get topped because I don't like it and do not enjoy the feeling. its really as simple as that. I go for TG's for the same reason that I go for GG's, If the girl is attractive and has something intelligent to say then im good. Their cocks have nothing to do with why I like them and anyone attracted to someone of any sex just because of whats between their legs has many other issues to deal with first.

[Birgitta]

Its wild that so many people get offended when someone doesn't like exactly what they like. I don't get topped because I don't like it and do not enjoy the feeling. its really as simple as that. I go for TG's for the same reason that I go for GG's, If the girl is attractive and has something intelligent to say then im good. Their cocks have nothing to do with why I like them and anyone attracted to someone of any sex just because of whats between their legs has many other issues to deal with first.

My god, you are my king for today....!!

[LaCosa]

I've heard so many shemale lovers say that they don't like the idea of sucking a shemale off or getting topped by a shemale. These are some of my favorite things to do with a shemale. I'm just curious, if you don't like any of this with a shemale, or just like fucking them, then why do you even go for shemales at all?? Aren't these just things that you can do with a genetic girl? (i.e. a girl with a vagina).

Not attacking this group of people or anything. But, I think that a shemale's cock makes them unique, and personally, I'm all for pleasing it however I can :)


I first started to eye attention to T-girls after years of loneliness and when the internet was already created. Once I came across transsexual porn after surfing through porn sites (at the time I had no idea there was so many genres of porn), especially the Brazilian T-girls, I was like, "Wow!" :)

But I'm not into being topped by T-girls. I don't even like porn clips of them penetrating guys. I only watch T-girl porn where they get topped.

I'm not into giving T-girls blowjobs either. However, if I fell in love with one I'm sure I could be persuaded into that occasionally for her benefit. But I doubt I'd let her fuck me in the ass.

I suppose for me it's similar to lesbians. Have you ever known any lesbians? I have, and dildos and strap-ons are common items for lesbian couples (at from those I've known). Why do they date and marry a woman and one ask to be sodomized with a strap-on when they could just date a man? Or furthermore, why do some get manly looking lesbian girlfriends and be fucked by their manly looking girlfriends that wear strap-ons?

I've never dated nor had sex with a T-girl.

I have gotten the phone number of a T-girl when I was out with my lesbian friends at a gay bar one night.

If I dated and married a T-girl I'm dating and marrying her to be my woman. Period. And for some reason I'm not into post-op transsexuals that have their male genitals removed. Don't ask me, I'm not quite sure why, I only have an inkling why I'm adverse to dating or fucking them.





Honestly, whether you want to believe this or not, part of my attraction to and arousal for pre-op T-girls, is their girlish mannerisms, them in girlish clothing, them embracing femininity. That along with a sexy body - and a cute smile is just heart stopping.

Look at this picture. Look at that woman ass, gripped and spread by manly hands, look at her clean, shaven/waxed butt hole given and dedicated to service of a mans hard cock. The question of a vagina for me become moot. (What I need a vagina for is to birth my kids).

http://www.galleryhost.com/1018299/1/temptingtrannys/custom/1012vd_Biancagetssomebackdoorloving_28801166/

http://www.galleryhost.com/1018299/1/temptingtrannys/custom/1012vd_Biancagetssomebackdoorloving_28801166/images/02.jpg


Or look at this little girl. Look at the nice ass on her and if you watch the clip of her in this pic below, just look how girly she is in her mannerisms. I don't know... that's my answer [shrug].

http://www.trannysexqueen.net/tranny09095hx/hosh.html

http://www.trannysexqueen.net/tranny09095hx/6.jpg

^ Now ain't that the cutest little thing you ever saw.

[Birgitta]

If I dated and married a T-girl I'm dating and marrying her to be my woman. Period. And for some reason I'm not into post-op transsexuals that have their male genitals removed. Don't ask me, I'm not quite sure why, I only have an inkling why I'm adverse to dating or fucking them.





Honestly, whether you want to believe this or not, part of my attraction to and arousal for pre-op T-girls, is their girlish mannerisms, them in girlish clothing, them embracing femininity. That along with a sexy body - and a cute smile is just heart stopping.

Look at this picture. Look at that woman ass, gripped and spread by manly hands, look at her clean, shaven/waxed butt hole given and dedicated to service of a mans hard cock. The question of a vagina for me become moot. (What I need a vagina for is to birth my kids).

http://www.galleryhost.com/1018299/1/temptingtrannys/custom/1012vd_Biancagetssomebackdoorloving_28801166/

http://www.galleryhost.com/1018299/1/temptingtrannys/custom/1012vd_Biancagetssomebackdoorloving_28801166/images/02.jpg


Or look at this little girl. Look at the nice ass on her and if you watch the clip of her in this pic below, just look how girly she is in her mannerisms. I don't know... that's my answer [shrug].

http://www.trannysexqueen.net/tranny09095hx/hosh.html

http://www.trannysexqueen.net/tranny09095hx/6.jpg

^ Now ain't that the cutest little thing you ever saw.

The start of above post is what tickles my curiosity, i would like to know what that small inkling is, coz there it gets interesting.

[nicebrn]

The start of above post is what tickles my curiosity, i would like to know what that small inkling is, coz there it gets interesting.
Could be the rather visceral sense of "Do Not Want!" that I feel whenever I consider the concept of having one's genitals removed and reformatted. It's extremely difficult for me to think of it as anything other than mutilation. Intellectually I know that's an irrational conclusion, but it's damn hard to work through it. At any rate, it just provokes the opposite of attraction.

[Birgitta]

Could be the rather visceral sense of "Do Not Want!" that I feel whenever I consider the concept of having one's genitals removed and reformatted. It's extremely difficult for me to think of it as anything other than mutilation. Intellectually I know that's an irrational conclusion, but it's damn hard to work through it. At any rate, it just provokes the opposite of attraction.

Hi there..

I dont think thats an irrational conclusion... it is mutulation...also when its done with consent...I know a post op girl (also the rational type) that is very feminine btw especially in her mind and heart that says...its not cool that I had to mutulate my body in order to become more complete....

I can understand men that are not attracted to the idea...or to a "fake" pussy... I do not find that hard to understand...

xx
Birgitta..

I hope Lacosa has something different to say...this is one of the subjects that fascinate me most...

[AmyDaly]

Hi there..

I dont think thats an irrational conclusion... it is mutulation...also when its done with consent...I know a post op girl (also the rational type) that is very feminine btw especially in her mind and heart that says...its not cool that I had to mutulate my body in order to become more complete....

I can understand men that are not attracted to the idea...or to a "fake" pussy... I do not find that hard to understand...

xx
Birgitta..

I hope Lacosa has something different to say...this is one of the subjects that fascinate me most...


I wonder if you think girls who get boob jobs mutilated their chests or if they got FFS that they mutilated their face. Or they have a fake face. Maybe I mutilated my endocrine system by fucking up all my hormones. Kind of a shitty way to talk about someones corrective surgery. Yep, we are just abominations aren't we? Ugh.

[Birgitta]

I wonder if you think girls who get boob jobs mutilated their chests or if they got FFS that they mutilated their face. Or they have a fake face. Maybe I mutilated my endocrine system by fucking up all my hormones. Kind of a shitty way to talk about someones corrective surgery. Yep, we are just abominations aren't we? Ugh.

I did not say that we are abominations... but I do think I mutulated my natural endocrine system by using hormones...

[AmyDaly]

I did not say that we are abominations... but I do think I mutulated my natural endocrine system by using hormones...
I haven't heard so much self hatred come from a trans person in a long time. You have a long road ahead of you, but your time of enlightenment will come. You will open your mind sooner or later.

And yes, by saying we have mutilated our bodys, you are pretty much calling us walking abominations. How about "Walking Mutilations". That more fits your wording.

[Birgitta]

I haven't heard so much self hatred come from a trans person in a long time. You have a long road ahead of you, but your time of enlightenment will come. You will open your mind sooner or later.

And yes, by saying we have mutilated our bodys, you are pretty much calling us walking abominations. How about "Walking Mutilations". That more fits your wording.

The thing is.... I never said any thing is wrong or right...
I never said white is good and black is bad...

I never said femininity is good... masculinity is bad...

I never said body mutulation or modification if you will, is bad or good.

And I honestly dont hate myself...I just dont confuse my identity with my body...

[AmyDaly]

The thing is.... I never said any thing is wrong or right...
I never said white is good and black is bad...
I never said femininity is good... masculinity is bad...
I never said body mutulation or modification if you will, is bad or good.
And I honestly dont hate myself...I just dont confuse my identity with my body...

Black and white doesn't just mean good or bad. Categorizing people like you like to do is seeing things in black or white. You are gay or you are straight. You are a man or you are a woman. You are feminine or you are masculine, etc.. etc. That is what seeing things in black and white is. You have so much inner trans-phobia, that you don't even see it.

[Birgitta]

Black and white doesn't just mean good or bad. Categorizing people like you like to do is seeing things in black or white. You are gay or you are straight. You are a man or you are a woman. You are feminine or you are masculine, etc.. etc. That is what seeing things in black and white is. You have so much inner trans-phobia, that you don't even see it.

Yes I dont like being trans...not in this lifetime, but im not phobic lol
And I learned to live with it and enjoy life nevertheless

[sktrdude6]

Black and white doesn't just mean good or bad. Categorizing people like you like to do is seeing things in black or white. You are gay or you are straight. You are a man or you are a woman. You are feminine or you are masculine, etc.. etc. That is what seeing things in black and white is. You have so much inner trans-phobia, that you don't even see it.
Hi AmyDaly, thank you for your comments and participation. I don't think that Birgitta is being self hating, or that she's categorizing. Aren't you making a lot of conclusions just based on the fact that she used the word "mutilation"? Is that necessarily such a negative word that it implies hatred? Maybe if it was a slur or a derogative word, but "mutilation" is just a neutral word. And even so it's just one word...what about who she is as a person? Doesn't that better determine if she's trans-phobic?

I'm sorry but, to make such a Freudian conclusion that someone has "so much inner trans-phobia that they don't even see" it after just a few posts just isn't right :(

With that though, I agree, I'm not into post-op for the same reason. Not because I think that they did something wrong by being willing to go through SRS, but simply because I couldn't look at their vagina without thinking of the intense surgery they had to go through to get it =/


I first started to eye attention to T-girls after years of loneliness and when the internet was already created. Once I came across transsexual porn after surfing through porn sites (at the time I had no idea there was so many genres of porn), especially the Brazilian T-girls, I was like, "Wow!" :)

But I'm not into being topped by T-girls. I don't even like porn clips of them penetrating guys. I only watch T-girl porn where they get topped.

I'm not into giving T-girls blowjobs either. However, if I fell in love with one I'm sure I could be persuaded into that occasionally for her benefit. But I doubt I'd let her fuck me in the ass.

I suppose for me it's similar to lesbians. Have you ever known any lesbians? I have, and dildos and strap-ons are common items for lesbian couples (at from those I've known). Why do they date and marry a woman and one ask to be sodomized with a strap-on when they could just date a man? Or furthermore, why do some get manly looking lesbian girlfriends and be fucked by their manly looking girlfriends that wear strap-ons?

I've never dated nor had sex with a T-girl.

I have gotten the phone number of a T-girl when I was out with my lesbian friends at a gay bar one night.

If I dated and married a T-girl I'm dating and marrying her to be my woman. Period. And for some reason I'm not into post-op transsexuals that have their male genitals removed. Don't ask me, I'm not quite sure why, I only have an inkling why I'm adverse to dating or fucking them.





Honestly, whether you want to believe this or not, part of my attraction to and arousal for pre-op T-girls, is their girlish mannerisms, them in girlish clothing, them embracing femininity. That along with a sexy body - and a cute smile is just heart stopping.

Look at this picture. Look at that woman ass, gripped and spread by manly hands, look at her clean, shaven/waxed butt hole given and dedicated to service of a mans hard cock. The question of a vagina for me become moot. (What I need a vagina for is to birth my kids).
I see. I guess it's just an aesthetic thing then, is what you're saying? Just the fact that the cock is there makes them desirable? Idk, what you described is everything an actual girl could have (except maybe the dedicated butt hole ;) ), but I guess the cock just being there makes it better? It's interesting, for sure. The lesbian example is good though, that's a good way to look at it. Now that I think about it, I don't quite understand that either...lol

[Birgitta]

With that though, I agree, I'm not into post-op for the same reason. Not because I think that they did something wrong by being willing to go through SRS, but simply because I couldn't look at their vagina without thinking of the intense surgery they had to go through to get it =/


I find this so easy to understand...
I would not date a female to male TS for simular reasons... and if I dated him at all.. Id rather have it that he puts on a strap on then use a surgically contructed penis ...

But Im narrowminded for thinking like that... lol

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I find this so easy to understand...
I would not date a female to male TS for simular reasons... and if I dated him at all.. Id rather have it that he puts on a strap on then use a surgically contructed penis ...

But Im narrowminded for thinking like that... lol


Brigitta....I think I love you!!!:Bowdown::praying::whistle:

[Birgitta]

Brigitta....I think I love you!!!:Bowdown::praying::whistle:


Thhhanks i can use a little loving around here hihi xx

[scroller]

I can understand that. But still, what's the point of going after TS specifically then?

They want the cock*. They say they do not want the cock. And that's how they get the cock*.

* As well as all the other fun parts.

[loveboof]

Aren't you making a lot of conclusions just based on the fact that she used the word "mutilation"? Is that necessarily such a negative word that it implies hatred? Maybe if it was a slur or a derogative word, but "mutilation" is just a neutral word.

Mutilation is very far from neutral! Look up it's meaning online (won't take you long) :)

[nicebrn]

Mutilation is very far from neutral! Look up it's meaning online (won't take you long) :)
Of course you're right. I was the one who used it originally, and I used it consciously. It's a very strong word with a definition--"to cut up or render imperfect"--that falls within my subjective evaluation of the result.

It's not rocket science. The thought of inverting your private parts is extremely disquieting to me*. It's a purely emotional reaction and an aesthetic judgment; hence why I called it irrational. Beyond that, I don't feel any differently toward those who've had to do what they felt is necessary. It certainly doesn't mean I value post-op girls any less than anyone else--not that I've met more than a tiny handful personally--nor do I think they're "abominations." Having been called that myself, I would never use that to describe anyone.

...now furry fetishists, on the other hand... ;)

* I feel much the same about extreme body piercing, by the way.

[LaCosa]

@ Birgitta and skrt:



I see. I guess it's just an aesthetic thing then, is what you're saying? Just the fact that the cock is there makes them desirable? Idk, what you described is everything an actual girl could have (except maybe the dedicated butt hole ;) ), but I guess the cock just being there makes it better? It's interesting, for sure. The lesbian example is good though, that's a good way to look at it. Now that I think about it, I don't quite understand that either...lol




I think it has a lot to do with aesthetic appeal for me, yes, but not only that.

As for aesthetics I can appreciate the male, manly physique as the ancient Greeks and Romans did when they celebrated it in their sculptures. The Greeks even have the image of a transsexual - nicely curved, womanly ass, and then the small penis. I can't remember if it was one of the gods or not? I'll have to google Wikipedia.

When it comes to transsexual's aesthetics part of the appeal for me is the clear visual contrasts - a girl with a penis. But I'm not into large penises on T-girls either. The cute little girl in the last photo I put up has a dick larger than I would prefer on her. But she's so cute and has such a nice little ass that I can get past that. I prefer T-girls to have small cocks. But the other thing - for me - is that I don't find most vaginas visually appealing. Don't get me wrong, I've seen some pretty pussies before. But I've seen photos of a lot of pussy's that look beat the fuck up and ugly too. Male genitals, when their surroundings are groomed, just have a better aesthetic look to me. And that has nothing to do with arousal per se.

Other than that something in my mind just views a transsexuals pussy unappealing. I have it in my mind (automatically it pops in instantly) that it carries an unpleasant scent etc. I don't know... something about just turns me off.

You know... kit might not be totally unrelated to an early experience I had in my early teens. My mind is almost scared from it :lol:. I was making out with a girl, I pulled her pants and panties down, and the most putrid odor came out. I tried not to act poorly so not to offend her and hurt her feelings, plus my little head was intent on finishing the job. With condom on I had sex. I don't think I could ever do that again though. I have more restraint now, as well I value my own boundaries, and a grown woman (not young teen girl) had better have decent hygiene.

At any rate there is something about a transsexual pussy that my mind just finds unappealing. I don't entirely know why. I just know those bits I mentioned have some parts to play.



Peace.

[LaCosa]

Here we go.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Hermaphroditus_lady_lever.jpg/170px-Hermaphroditus_lady_lever.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Hermaphroditus_Louvre_face.jpg/220px-Hermaphroditus_Louvre_face.jpg

[Birgitta]

LaCosa thank you for taking time trying to explain your inkling...

The way you describe yourself and your interest in tgirls tells me you are my kind of guy :) lol.

But I get confused because what you write often shifts and you contradict yourself a lot.

Thanks for the nice statue :)

x
birgitta

ps: pre op tgirls smell like woman, but dont stink like woman lol

[LaCosa]

LaCosa thank you for taking time trying to explain your inkling...

The way you describe yourself and your interest in tgirls tells me you are my kind of guy :) lol.

But I get confused because what you write often shifts and you contradict yourself a lot.

Thanks for the nice statue :)

x
birgitta

ps: pre op tgirls smell like woman, but dont stink like woman lol



:cheers:

[AmyDaly]

ps: pre op tgirls smell like woman, but dont stink like woman lol

prolly in your case. not for those of us loaded up on hormones for years

[Birgitta]

prolly in your case. not for those of us loaded up on hormones for years

I was not talking about pee lol :)

If you keep yourself clean you will NOT stink like a natural vagina...
you so very "experienced" and arrogant girl...

[AmyDaly]

I was not talking about pee lol :)

If you keep yourself clean you will NOT stink like a natural vagina...
you so very "experienced" and arrogant girl...

Its not that I am arrogant. Its just that you try and speak in general terms about all of us a lot of the time and should keep what you say related to yourself. I guess I am arrogant if I find it offensive and annoying that you try and speak for all of us all the time?

[Birgitta]

Its not that I am arrogant. Its just that you try and speak in general terms about all of us a lot of the time and should keep what you say related to yourself. I guess I am arrogant if I find it offensive and annoying that you try and speak for all of us all the time?

us?
What would that be?

[AmyDaly]

us?
What would that be?
Ummm...Transwomen.

[Birgitta]

Ummm...Transwomen.

so what does that make me... a non-transwoman?

[AmyDaly]

so what does that make me... a non-transwoman?

No, you are an individual transwomen. You speak for yourself, not for all of us. A lot of the girls on this site do not even agree with most of the things you say. I'm just sayin'. Stop making generalizations about all of us transwomen and start speaking for yourself.

[BraveHeartz]

Love to suck cock, sometimes hard to convince some girls to let you suck them off if they're a bit shy.

[Birgitta]

No, you are an individual transwomen. You speak for yourself, not for all of us. A lot of the girls on this site do not even agree with most of the things you say. I'm just sayin'. Stop making generalizations about all of us transwomen and start speaking for yourself.

I am doing so all the time...I never said you or kelly or any other girl on here is like me... coz thats not true... its obvious we are very different...

[tod10234567]

I've heard so many shemale lovers say that they don't like the idea of sucking a shemale off or getting topped by a shemale. These are some of my favorite things to do with a shemale. I'm just curious, if you don't like any of this with a shemale, or just like fucking them, then why do you even go for shemales at all?? Aren't these just things that you can do with a genetic girl? (i.e. a girl with a vagina).

Not attacking this group of people or anything. But, I think that a shemale's cock makes them unique, and personally, I'm all for pleasing it however I can :)

I'm only date a t-girl and of course have sex with them. Because I like that she is a girl with a cock, and I'm versatile. I don't like girl because she doesn't have cock. That what I love about t-girl.

[Deimos]

:dancing:

I kinda figured that. It's natural on a forum to get trolled for a simple question lol. But no harm in trying, eh?

closest thing to the answer your looking for: they are closet cases in denial...

okay that's more than close, it's the truth. these are the same guys who call everyone else fags without realising the irony. ih you put your dick, in person's body, that also has a dick, you've engaged in homosexual act. it doesn't matter that they look amazingly like women, the reason.... well, body part that lures so called straight, fag hating men to TS women is their penis. the TS women know this, and the men who accept that they are bisexual or homosexual know this. now you know this. there is no argument here really, it doesn't get much simpler than that... you, me, everyone else... we are all here because, despite what some of will admit to ourselves, there's a little fag in us all.

put a man in prison, with other men for 10 or more years, what happens? exactly.

[macklefreak]

I think sexuality has alot of moving parts: anatomical sex, gender sex, domain/sub type and the actual activities u enjoy. Just like some straight girls don't like sucking dick and most don't like anal, or some straight guys don't like eating pussy. I like tgirls because they are hyper feminine if that makes sense. I feel even more masculine when I'm with a tgirl. I would never take it up the ass and can't see myself sucking dick
But I also never thought I'd even touch a dick until I was with a girl who had a slim curved dick that was small. I think it makes me feel more manly when I grab their cock next to mine and its significantly visibly smaller than mine. Don't think I could b with a girl w a huge cock. However, I've always been told I'm big but I know I'm just 8 inches and I see alot of ads proclaiming at least 9. I love to physically dominate tgirls and bottoming or sucking cock isn't congruent to my sexuality

[Merkurie]

I wonder if some guys get off on the thought that the tgirl they are fucking was born a boy. That no matter how feminine they obvioulsy are, some guys who are tops only are jonesing on making a bitch out of another male.

[macklefreak]

@merkurie...possibly, but I can't even hard for male looking bodies. Ive turned down more than a few "trannies" who were too masculine looking or sounding. And I've even explored being with a really effeminate bitchboy but it was repulsive to me in action beyond just a passing idea

[giovanni_hotel]

closest thing to the answer your looking for: they are closet cases in denial...

okay that's more than close, it's the truth. these are the same guys who call everyone else fags without realising the irony. ih you put your dick, in person's body, that also has a dick, you've engaged in homosexual act. it doesn't matter that they look amazingly like women, the reason.... well, body part that lures so called straight, fag hating men to TS women is their penis. the TS women know this, and the men who accept that they are bisexual or homosexual know this. now you know this. there is no argument here really, it doesn't get much simpler than that... you, me, everyone else... we are all here because, despite what some of will admit to ourselves, there's a little fag in us all.

put a man in prison, with other men for 10 or more years, what happens? exactly.


See, here's where I disagree.

I've had women suggest bringing a strapon into the bedroom, to see where it leads.....like, IN MY ASS.

I said no, which starts a fight, which eventually led to breakups.

If it was just the dick, for me I would be much more willing to explore sexual encounters with MEN.

For instance, if a GG, on a scale from 1 to 10, has incredible breasts, or a phat ass, part of me will want to fuck her. ALways. That's just the way I am, I have a sexual fetish for ass/tits.

But I don't find every T sexually attractive AT ALL. Part of the reason I joined HA is because the ratio hott/pretty/cute TGs to those who aren't is like 10/1.


On most transgendered forums that ratio is reversed.

The penis is a part of the attraction, but it's not the whole thing.

Once you understand that TRUE transgendered women are emotionally and psychologically women, once you actually meet a girl, all this talk about who's a 'fag' doesn't work so well.

If however as a T admirer/lover you are still trying to rationalize how you could be sexually attracted to a transgendered woman, then yeah it's a fag issue for you.

[bte]

I've heard so many shemale lovers say that they don't like the idea of sucking a shemale off or getting topped by a shemale. These are some of my favorite things to do with a shemale. I'm just curious, if you don't like any of this with a shemale, or just like fucking them, then why do you even go for shemales at all?? Aren't these just things that you can do with a genetic girl? (i.e. a girl with a vagina).

Not attacking this group of people or anything. But, I think that a shemale's cock makes them unique, and personally, I'm all for pleasing it however I can :)

Rarely do I ever say this, but what a stupid thread. Everyone has their personal preferences when it comes to sex. When some guys get with a TS they want to bottom and suck cock. Some guys want to get with a TS to be strictly a top and suck cock. Some guys want to get with a TS just to top. It's just a personal preference of the individual. Personally, I have had TS girlfriends where they don't like cock and the only reason why they haven't completed SRS was because of money. I have dated some TS girls that love their cocks (but I don't bottom) and want their cocks enjoyed. You like sucking and being fucked by a TS more power to ya, but just because a guy only likes to top doesn't mean their attraction is lessen because they don't want to be a bottom.

[Yeah]

Do what feels good and right to you and forget what others think or say.

[Birgitta]

I wonder if some guys get off on the thought that the tgirl they are fucking was born a boy. That no matter how feminine they obvioulsy are, some guys who are tops only are jonesing on making a bitch out of another male.

Sounds nice ;)

[Birgitta]

Isnt it cool that everyone has to disagree to stay true to themselves, shows that this little gender twilight world refuses to let itself be defined by merely one description,
I do like to search myself and define and describe it, but also for me the whole situation is way too complex to simplify it like that, but it can help to lead you to the place where you are most happy. Sometimes that also means to stop staring at the menu card and to let life suprise you...