TransGoProud

[Erika1487]

I have been thinking of starting a new Political Action Committee called
TransGoProud it would cater to the Republican Transgender community which I believe is waaay under represented.

Here is the main idea I am kicking around for a new PAC

TransGoProud represents Transgender Republicans and their allies. TransGoProud is committed to a traditional conservative agenda that emphasizes limited government, individual liberty,a free market agenda, and traditional conservative family values

Let me know what you think? I think it could be an important step for the transgender community to open doors within the Republican party.(I should know I work for the party) I also believe that there are may late bloomer transgender folks who DO NOT want to nessarily want to give up their political ideas or thier family values.

Ok kids let the screaming match begin!

Erika :)

[yodajazz]

Republicans only care about money, the unborn, and Israel. But if you could get them to drop their denounciation of 'alternatve lifestyles' in their party platform, I would count that as a step foward for humanity.

[nonnonnon]

Obama made June lgbt pride month. what else do you people want??

[hippifried]

Better have a real good lawyer & an even better accountant to fire up any PAC.

[Erika1487]

Obama made June lgbt pride month. what else do you people want??

Simple....to vote Obama out!

[Erika1487]

Republicans only care about money, the unborn, and Israel. But if you could get them to drop their denounciation of 'alternatve lifestyles' in their party platform, I would count that as a step foward for humanity.

The whole idea for TransGoProud is to intergrate Transgender Republicans into the regular GOP NOT change the party platform.

[Erika1487]

Better have a real good lawyer & an even better accountant to fire up any PAC.

P.A.C are not that difficult to operate. Remember I work for the GOP we have access to the best legal teams :)

[hippifried]

Well good luck with that. How much support are you expecting from the party? Are you out? Is this going to be your coming out? Just curious, bcause it seems to me that stoking the rumor mill would be counterproductive.

This is an issue oriented PAC. Can you tie it directly to the party? I'd be interested in the number of donors, more than the $ amount. Would the PAC refuse its support to candidates who oppose its take on the issue, or will the money just be shuffled into the party?

[Yvonne183]

I'm trying to start an Aryan Tgirl Pac Man group but am having difficulties finding people to join. I did have this one person who is half Polish,, that's sort of OK, Polish are kinda white but it's the half Martian part that bothers me.

[hippifried]

Keepthe martian out of the sun, & tell everybody that the green is just mold.

[trish]

Limited government is anathema to individual liberty, which can only be protected against the prejudices of the majority and the greed of corporate interests by an appropriate infrastructure of law and regulation.

[Yvonne183]

Keepthe martian out of the sun, & tell everybody that the green is just mold.

Ha ha ha,, nice


But it's not just the green that bothers me,, it's his third eye that bothers me. Ya see we can hide the green skin under our white hoods, but how do we explain the three holes in the hood for his eyes.

[yodajazz]

The whole idea for TransGoProud is to intergrate Transgender Republicans into the regular GOP NOT change the party platform.

According to a poster here, the following is an official position of the Republican party:

Homosexual and transgendered lifestyles are a choice made by people with psychological illnesses. Sexual relations between people of the same sex is not normal. Those who have chosen this path have subjected themselves to imminent mental destruction. Their actions contaminate and threaten the family values of our society. Our children are exposed to this deviant abomination, which threatens the mental stability of our children and their families. Parents, churches, and schools must teach our children and each other the family values given to us all by God to sway victims away from the evil sins of the homosexual lifestyle before it is too late and they become lost forever.

It seems to me that challenging this position would be part of the long term strategy in get acceptance of transgenders into the party.

[Silcc69]

Well they really don't even acknowledge the Log Cabin Republicans. But what yoda jsut posted seems like that is what CBN would say.

[onmyknees]

While I think it's an interesting idea, I think you'd be constantly fighting the rip tides and the current main stream media orthodoxy. I mean can you imagine the first time you, or your spokesperson appeared on MSNBC ? You might think you're sexual orientation puts you in good graces, but as long as you have a R after your name....expect a hostile host. You think remnants of the old moral majority would have their long knives out??....wait to Tingles Matthews gets you on a 7 minute segment and won't let you get a word in edgewise, and dredges up some old Jessie Helms footage in a segment that would resemble the OJ trial Gotcha moment when Barry Sheck showing footage of evidence being mishandled by police crime investigators...yelled out......"How about that Mr. Fung"?????? As the crowd gasped.

I admire your determination to not let the liberals define what is a much different Republican Party, but it's part of their DNA to believe we're closet racists and homophobes. It suits them, and they're comfortable in that ignorance. Didn't you see David Gregory quizzing Gingrich recently....opening with "you made a speech in Georgia recently" ( wink wink....Georgia...you know the stars and bars, and former home of Lester Maddox)
It happens every day....all day. Having said that....don't let me discourage you, but I think we have enough problems getting our fiscal message to be heard and understood through all the white noise in the media, but some of that is the fault of the RNC.....and the Congressional leadership....shoot the messengers !

[DL_NL]

I'm trying to start an Aryan Tgirl Pac Man group but am having difficulties finding people to join. I did have this one person who is half Polish,, that's sort of OK, Polish are kinda white but it's the half Martian part that bothers me.
You forgot about the half Klingon. I'm rather proud of that.

[Erika1487]

Well good luck with that. How much support are you expecting from the party? Are you out? Is this going to be your coming out? Just curious, bcause it seems to me that stoking the rumor mill would be counterproductive.

This is an issue oriented PAC. Can you tie it directly to the party? I'd be interested in the number of donors, more than the $ amount. Would the PAC refuse its support to candidates who oppose its take on the issue, or will the money just be shuffled into the party?

Well since I work for the party I am not expecting them to jump thru hoops and lay down a welcome mat. The purpose of the TransGoProud would be simply help Republican transgender folks become intergated into the party and support Republican candidates who meet our standards.

[Erika1487]

While I think it's an interesting idea, I think you'd be constantly fighting the rip tides and the current main stream media orthodoxy. I mean can you imagine the first time you, or your spokesperson appeared on MSNBC ? You might think you're sexual orientation puts you in good graces, but as long as you have a R after your name....expect a hostile host. You think remnants of the old moral majority would have their long knives out??....wait to Tingles Matthews gets you on a 7 minute segment and won't let you get a word in edgewise, and dredges up some old Jessie Helms footage in a segment that would resemble the OJ trial Gotcha moment when Barry Sheck showing footage of evidence being mishandled by police crime investigators...yelled out......"How about that Mr. Fung"?????? As the crowd gasped.

I admire your determination to not let the liberals define what is a much different Republican Party, but it's part of their DNA to believe we're closet racists and homophobes. It suits them, and they're comfortable in that ignorance. Didn't you see David Gregory quizzing Gingrich recently....opening with "you made a speech in Georgia recently" ( wink wink....Georgia...you know the stars and bars, and former home of Lester Maddox)
It happens every day....all day. Having said that....don't let me discourage you, but I think we have enough problems getting our fiscal message to be heard and understood through all the white noise in the media, but some of that is the fault of the RNC.....and the Congressional leadership....shoot the messengers !

Well I agree it won't be "Peaches & Cream", but I think it is a way I can help my fellow Republican Trans sisters. What really burns the noodle of Sillica, Trish, Indeeda, and YodaJazz is that Transgender Republicans even exist!
In thier twisted world view we should all go to a pride parade wearing a vote for Obama T-shirt Singing the Cuban National Anthem !
What they don't have any fucking clue about is that many transfolk vote Republican because they were GOP voters long before they ever transitioned.
It defies all of thier "wait to Tingles Matthews" logic that Conservative Tansfolk have enough common decency and respect not to go out in the street and riot when something they disagree with happens. We are mostly too busy working on our long term financial prosperity, working at decent Job, & supporting our loving families to give a horse's arse what Democracts think about us!

[Erika1487]

Limited government is anathema to individual liberty, which can only be protected against the prejudices of the majority and the greed of corporate interests by an appropriate infrastructure of law and regulation.

Been singing El Himno de Bayamo lately Trish?

[trish]

What really burns the noodle of Sillica, Trish, Indeeda, and YodaJazz is that Transgender Republicans even exist! In thier twisted world view we should all go to a pride parade wearing a vote for Obama T-shirt Singing the Cuban National Anthem ! I'm sorry but I never expressed surprise, on these forums or anywhere else, concerning the existence of Republican transgenders. Nor have I expressed any sympathy for the current government of Cuba or even a musical inclination for their national anthem. So thank you for demonstrating that you can always count on a representative of a minority community in the Republican Party for some really broad-sweep stereotyping of their fellow community members. Thank you, Erika.

[yodajazz]

Well I agree it won't be "Peaches & Cream", but I think it is a way I can help my fellow Republican Trans sisters. What really burns the noodle of Sillica, Trish, Indeeda, and YodaJazz is that Transgender Republicans even exist!
In thier twisted world view we should all go to a pride parade wearing a vote for Obama T-shirt Singing the Cuban National Anthem !
What they don't have any fucking clue about is that many transfolk vote Republican because they were GOP voters long before they ever transitioned.
It defies all of thier "wait to Tingles Matthews" logic that Conservative Tansfolk have enough common decency and respect not to go out in the street and riot when something they disagree with happens. We are mostly too busy working on our long term financial prosperity, working at decent Job, & supporting our loving families to give a horse's arse what Democracts think about us!

I think that I am like most people. My political choice is about issues, and general tendencies of a party to support constituencies. I know that parties are broad coalitions, and do not always live up to their ideal platforms. What I see as a major problem, with our nation, was outlined in the farewell speech of Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican, of course. At that time the Democratic party, was divided by the Sourthern wing, who were basically for policies that allowed, racial discrimination at the state level. Eisenhower sent troops to Arkansas in '57 to escort 9 Black students to high school. However, the counter balance for Americans of African descent was that Democrats were big supporters of labor. It was labor jobs, that lead to Blacks having a middle class life. I look at the history of my own family, on both sides, and this was the case.

By the eighties under Ronald Reagan, the Republican party, began to really advocate for the wealthy, with his "trickle down" theory. His firing of air traffic controllers, was direct attack on the power of labor. I see it as a defining moment on te decline of labor. My city, was alive at that time with big steel factories, and auto plants. Today my city, once one the the ten largest, in the US is less than half its size population wise, and most of those jobs are long gone.

Reagan came to office with policy ideas that there should be less government, and that so called government regulations stifled economic growth, etc. But remember it was 'government', that only 15 years earlier that insured Blacks had the right to vote, and even drink at all public water fountains. The water fountains may seem trivial to you, but it represented a deep meaning, about the value of all humans.

But speaking of the symbolism of drinking water, a recent local event, brings to fruition another Republican led philosophy. Our largest indoor sports venue, removed all the water fountains, citing some health concern. They quickly announced that they would offer free water, after a public outcry. The Republican mantra, that letting business do what they wanted, will make life better for us all, came to my mind.

Still my point is, that it is about specific issues. And related to this forum, it does seem that the Republican platform is less inclusive. And those who seem to be excluded are the people of this forum; all of them. Now if transgenders (and those that admire them), could be accepted within the party, I would feel that the world would be a better place. It has to do with my outlook about humankind in general. As individuals, many Democrats fall short of the ideal, of inclusiveness. But policy-wise, the appointment of a transgendered official at least acknowledges the ideal of inclusiveness. It seems to me, I see gay Republicans, who only get media attention through scandal. And then they are not embraced by their party, publicly. And I dont see transgendered people getting any recognition at all. So if anyone here, wants to change the party from within, I do support you.

[Silcc69]

Well I agree it won't be "Peaches & Cream", but I think it is a way I can help my fellow Republican Trans sisters. What really burns the noodle of Sillica, Trish, Indeeda, and YodaJazz is that Transgender Republicans even exist!
In thier twisted world view we should all go to a pride parade wearing a vote for Obama T-shirt Singing the Cuban National Anthem !
What they don't have any fucking clue about is that many transfolk vote Republican because they were GOP voters long before they ever transitioned.
It defies all of thier "wait to Tingles Matthews" logic that Conservative Tansfolk have enough common decency and respect not to go out in the street and riot when something they disagree with happens. We are mostly too busy working on our long term financial prosperity, working at decent Job, & supporting our loving families to give a horse's arse what Democracts think about us!

Please spell my name right. And given the fact that we have republicans on here, there are log cabin republicans its not a big shocker to find a ts republican on here. I mean come on now Ericka.

[hippifried]

Well since I work for the party I am not expecting them to jump thru hoops and lay down a welcome mat. The purpose of the TransGoProud would be simply help Republican transgender folks become intergated into the party and support Republican candidates who meet our standards.
PACs exist to generate money. You're talking about using the name of a specific community to generate revenue. What's the issue? What standards? That the candidate doesn't advocate lynching you? The party itself is openly hostile to the people you want fronting the money raising. So I have to ask: Is this about gaining acceptance as human beings for the community within the party, or is it just about shuffling money into the party regardless of the hostility & without expectations or strings? If it's not about lobbying the party itself, then using the community as a front would be disingenuous. Anyone who would donate to a party despite hostile intolerance to them personally, is doing it for other purposes & probably doesnt care about integration.

[Erika1487]

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PACs exist to generate money. You're talking about using the name of a specific community to generate revenue..

No I am part of the "community" as Transgedered Republican and I am saying there are few like "me" who are in a position of influnce within the party to to help other transfolk witin the party and support canidates that meet our standards.

[/QUOTE]What's the issue? What standards? That the candidate doesn't advocate lynching you? [/QUOTE]
I will not even dignify that with an answer

[/QUOTE] The party itself is openly hostile to the people you want fronting the money raising. So I have to ask: Is this about gaining acceptance as human beings for the community within the party, or is it just about shuffling money into the party regardless of the hostility & without expectations or strings? If it's not about lobbying the party itself, then using the community as a front would be disingenuous.[/QUOTE]

TransGoProud would not be using the community as a "front" we would be part of the community. Rasing money to support our canidates & helping other Trans gop sisters within the party.

[Erika1487]

I think that I am like most people. My political choice is about issues, and general tendencies of a party to support constituencies. I know that parties are broad coalitions, and do not always live up to their ideal platforms. What I see as a major problem, with our nation, was outlined in the farewell speech of Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican, of course. At that time the Democratic party, was divided by the Sourthern wing, who were basically for policies that allowed, racial discrimination at the state level. Eisenhower sent troops to Arkansas in '57 to escort 9 Black students to high school. However, the counter balance for Americans of African descent was that Democrats were big supporters of labor. It was labor jobs, that lead to Blacks having a middle class life. I look at the history of my own family, on both sides, and this was the case.

By the eighties under Ronald Reagan, the Republican party, began to really advocate for the wealthy, with his "trickle down" theory. His firing of air traffic controllers, was direct attack on the power of labor. I see it as a defining moment on te decline of labor. My city, was alive at that time with big steel factories, and auto plants. Today my city, once one the the ten largest, in the US is less than half its size population wise, and most of those jobs are long gone.

Reagan came to office with policy ideas that there should be less government, and that so called government regulations stifled economic growth, etc. But remember it was 'government', that only 15 years earlier that insured Blacks had the right to vote, and even drink at all public water fountains. The water fountains may seem trivial to you, but it represented a deep meaning, about the value of all humans.

But speaking of the symbolism of drinking water, a recent local event, brings to fruition another Republican led philosophy. Our largest indoor sports venue, removed all the water fountains, citing some health concern. They quickly announced that they would offer free water, after a public outcry. The Republican mantra, that letting business do what they wanted, will make life better for us all, came to my mind.

Still my point is, that it is about specific issues. And related to this forum, it does seem that the Republican platform is less inclusive. And those who seem to be excluded are the people of this forum; all of them. Now if transgenders (and those that admire them), could be accepted within the party, I would feel that the world would be a better place. It has to do with my outlook about humankind in general. As individuals, many Democrats fall short of the ideal, of inclusiveness. But policy-wise, the appointment of a transgendered official at least acknowledges the ideal of inclusiveness. It seems to me, I see gay Republicans, who only get media attention through scandal. And then they are not embraced by their party, publicly. And I dont see transgendered people getting any recognition at all. So if anyone here, wants to change the party from within, I do support you.

Thank you yodajazz Your responce is quite refreshing. I admit there is a wing of our party that would rather see me dead than see me working for it, but I really am trying to change things from the inside & helping our canidates at the same time is a very sensitive. For me to try to "force the issue" would not be the way to go. Getting the Republican party to change is like watching two slugs run a a mile on a dry slat lake slow and painful.
Ido think with a careful tact I could make the GOP a more accpeting place for the trans community and make the party realize our political fundrasing potential.

[yodajazz]

Thank you yodajazz Your responce is quite refreshing. I admit there is a wing of our party that would rather see me dead than see me working for it, but I really am trying to change things from the inside & helping our canidates at the same time is a very sensitive. For me to try to "force the issue" would not be the way to go. Getting the Republican party to change is like watching two slugs run a a mile on a dry slat lake slow and painful.
Ido think with a careful tact I could make the GOP a more accpeting place for the trans community and make the party realize our political fundrasing potential.

I see your position as a "foot in the door", type of thing. However, it does seem like a difficult position. No one would expect you to turn the party on it's ear. But at some point, there needs to be more things based upon positive concepts.