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onmyknees
05-19-2011, 12:23 AM
I have little affinity for the French, but something about this doesn't smell quite right to me . He's in a 3000 dollar a night Luxury motel, one of the most influential men in the world, probably has Elliot Spitzer's ex on speed dial...and he attacks a chamber maid? I'm not sayin' it did or didn't happen...just sayin I'm reserving judgement, but as The Duke Lacrosse dudes can attest too...once you do the perp walk, it's hard to put that bullet back in the gun. Imagine the poor bastard who has to swap the hotel carpet for DNA?

Random532
05-19-2011, 01:52 AM
What I don't understand is why she'd say it. Some US-based lady from Guinea is hardly going to recognise an aspiring French politician. That said, I guess someone close to him (or supposedly close to him, maybe an opposition plant) could have set it up to try and bring all the skeletons out of the closet, since if you throw enough mud some of it will stick.

If it's that, it appears to be working, since there is now an awful lot of smoke, and you know what they say about smoke and fire. No damages could ever pay for the damage on this reputation, whatever happens.

Gut feel, he's a pervert, but she's a chancer.

nonnonnon
05-19-2011, 01:59 AM
celebrities will be dating a supermodel or another actress and sleep with the fat maid. it doesn't make sense but...

Yvonne183
05-19-2011, 02:01 AM
Sounds like he's a tranny chaser,, from what I read on this forum tranny chasers act the same way. Maybe he's gay,,, maybe he should make a post on this forum asking if he rapes a woman but enjoys sex with men better does this mean he is not really gay?

wjcdiver
05-19-2011, 02:02 AM
His defense is "I am French, no woman would refuse me. It is not rape. Most women I have been with have played the stop, stop game. They don't mean it."

Besides in France the Surete National will arrest the woman for false witness for making such a charge against a senior politician.

Ben
05-19-2011, 02:03 AM
I have little affinity for the French, but something about this doesn't smell quite right to me . He's in a 3000 dollar a night Luxury motel, one of the most influential men in the world, probably has Elliot Spitzer's ex on speed dial...and he attacks a chamber maid? I'm not sayin' it did or didn't happen...just sayin I'm reserving judgement, but as The Duke Lacrosse dudes can attest too...once you do the perp walk, it's hard to put that bullet back in the gun. Imagine the poor bastard who has to swap the hotel carpet for DNA?

I think he probably did do it. I, initially, thought conspiracy. But nah! He has a pretty sleazy track record.
Tristane Banon, a French journalist, said in 2007 that DSK tried to rape her in 2002.
He sounds like a misogynist too....

Ben
05-19-2011, 02:04 AM
The End of Reform?

Strauss-Kahn and the IMF

By DEAN BAKER
Those who hoped for serious reform of the International Monetary Fund have to be very disappointed by the allegations of sexual assault against its director, Dominique Strauss-Kahn. If the charges prove true, this will end Strauss-Kahn's efforts at reforming an institution that is badly in need of reform.
Most people around the world do not realize the power that the IMF has in controlling their lives. In fact, in many countries the IMF's actions probably have more impact on their well being than the decisions of their elected government.
Some countries are well acquainted with the IMF's power. In the East Asian financial crisis the IMF, acting under the instructions of the Clinton Treasury Department, imposed very harsh terms on the countries of the region, insisting that debts be repaid in full. In effect, the IMF acted as the head of a creditors' cartel, maximizing the amount of money that U.S. and European banks could collect on loans that otherwise would have been written down by large amounts.
The IMF played the same role in other countries that faced crises at the end of the decade, most notably Brazil, Russia, and Argentina. Russia's economy faced severe recession until it finally broke with the IMF in the summer of 1998. This break, while originally painful, provided the basis for a decade of strong growth.
The battle with Argentina was even more striking. The austerity imposed on the country pushed its economy ever deeper into recession. Finally, in December of 2001, with civil unrest undermining the government's authority, the country had no choice but to abandon the IMF program and default on its debt.
The IMF then did everything in its power to undermine Argentina's economy. It even produced economic projections that consistently and hugely underestimated Argentina's growth as part of an effort to destroy confidence in the country's economy. Remarkably, the IMF's sabotage efforts failed. After a quarter of free fall, Argentina's economy stabilized and then began growing robustly in the second half of 2002. It continued to experience strong growth until the world recession brought its economy to a standstill in 2009.
It was not just the crisis countries that were affected by IMF policies. Countries throughout the developing world took away the lesson that they did not want to be in a position where they were forced to turn to the IMF for support. In order to protect themselves, they began to accumulate massive amounts of reserves.
This meant running huge trade surpluses. The result was that instead of capital flowing from rich countries to poor countries, which is the basic story in every economics textbook, capital flowed from poor countries to rich countries, most notably the United States.
Of course things didn't turn out fine. The trade imbalances helped to support massive housing bubbles in the United States and several other wealthy countries. When these bubbles burst in 2007-2008 it threatened the survival of the world financial system and threw the economy into the worst downturn since the Great Depression.
Tens of millions of people remain unemployed as a result of this collapse. The lost output to the world as a whole is likely to exceed $10 trillion.
Remarkably, not a single person in the IMF's leadership or bureaucracy was fired or even demoted for this enormous policy failure. The IMF's own Independent Evaluation Office decried the groupthink that prevented the thousands of economists working for the institution from recognizing and warning of this imminent disaster. Of course as long as no one ever gets fired for agreeing with the boss no matter how wrong the boss is, it's a safe bet that career-minded individuals will agree with the boss.
Dominique Strauss-Kahn tried to shake up this institution. He brought in Olivier Blanchard from MIT, one of the world's most prominent macroeconomists, as the IMF's chief economist. He gave Blanchard a free rein, which he quickly used to harshly criticize the orthodoxy within the IMF.
Last fall, the IMF published a study in its World Economic Outlook that showed that fiscal austerity in the wake of the economic crisis would further contract demand and raise unemployment. This reversed the institution's historic role; the IMF officially became a voice for expansion and employment rather than contraction and austerity.
Of course the story at the country level was often quite different. The teams that imposed specific terms for IMF support are well entrenched. Their plans for "internal devaluations" (declining wages and prices) in countries like Estonia and Latvia pushed their unemployment rates to nearly 20 percent. Getting the country-level teams in line with any new thinking at the top was likely to be a long and difficult process even in the best of circumstances.
If the charges against Mr. Strauss-Kahn hold up, then he will not be around to carry this effort forward. As far as for what the future holds, his interim successor, John Lipsky, was a former vice president at J.P. Morgan. This could mean that the whole world will suffer for Mr. Strauss-Kahn's criminal conduct.


Dean Baker is the co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research (CEPR)

Jackal
05-19-2011, 04:57 AM
A lot of people with much power and money do not want him to lead France...set-ups do happen, but then again, this is a guy with a casanova reputation. IDK what to think of it yet.

robertlouis
05-19-2011, 05:07 AM
Or maybe we should wait for the facts to come out. I'll be in France over the weekend with friends, so it will be interesting to get their take on it.

giovanni_hotel
05-19-2011, 05:52 AM
He's probably gotten pussy off chambermaids before and thought he could again. Some of those chicks are hard up and would have taken that geezer up on his 'offer' for a quickie.

But he picked the wrong one, the prude who's busting her ass to support her young daughter.
People assume rich people with high powered positions can't be social deviants, when in many cases they are the WORST, with the legal system rigged to protect them and the public unwilling to believe they could ever be bad people.

Something happened, either you believe it was consensual or it was sexual assault.

This case isn't over and I wouldn't be surprised if his people aren't desperately attempting to contact her now to make sure she never has to work another day in her life as a hotel maid.

sunairco
05-19-2011, 05:57 AM
OMK, pretty much nails it. Based on what we're being fed by the media, the bullshit detector is going off unless the guy is truly a moral-less idiot with an entitlement complex that's been doing this so long, he feels he can do it anywhere without impunity. Considering how long he's lived in the states and understands the difference in cultures, there is no reason to judge him by a French standard as he well would understand the consequences of his actions here. Everything just seems too pat.

While what the media and law enforcement are reporting and leaking, the maid appears to be the victim in an airtight sexual assult case. Since Sofitel is French owned, I wonder if the maid's French fluency and immigrant background are typical. Sometimes situations seem just too perfect. It could have been independently engineered to put a guy that's predisposed to this kind of behavior in close contact with a french speaking immigrant that he felt he could have his way and buy or threaten off. She's being presented as a humble muslim version of a saintly holy mary which she very well may be. It doesn't take a genius in intelligence to realize what would happen if you put mike tyson in a room with a shy and innocent virgin and let the security cameras, keycard readers, and forensics document the result for an ironclad evidnence trail that has no fingerprints of a manufactured hit operation if you wanted to ice tyson for good already knowing his predispostions.

We still don't know the whole story yet. Like the Duke Lacross case, the media presented the rich and entitled frat boys taking advantage of a poor black women with seeming impunity too. They were tried and convicted in the media and by women's advocacy groups to a shadow of a doubt like we're seeing right now. Wealth was pitted against have nots playing the class warfare card. We're seeing that here as well.

He may be guilty as sin and she may be innocent as a saint. While I don't agree that he should have special treatment beyond what anyone else would be entitled to, he didn't deserve to paraded around with the presupposition of guilt as he has been. No matter what, his career is toast and he's forever tarnished no matter where this leads. While I do feel for this woman, especially the way she's been villianized by the French media if the facts as presented are indeed true, I can't help but feel for DSK's total destruction at the height of his career by a mere word of a woman's initial accusation until being proven guilty beyond a doubt. Any man's reputation and freedom in this country can be destroyed and taken away on the simple accusation of a woman predicated on a nonsensical feminist concept that women never lie. They often do and they are rarely held accountable in this bizzare double standard.

I'll reserve judgement when we hear the complete facts. He's innocent until proven guilty and deserves some dignity like any other average schmuck that may have found himself in the same situation. She deserves her day in court and some respect by the French and foreign media.

giovanni_hotel
05-19-2011, 06:26 AM
Um, there's also FORENSIC evidence in this case that inclines NYPD to believe they have lock solid case against this guy. Apparently he cums like a geyser and splattered everything, or something like that.

It could be a conspiracy, but why can't a rich guy be a scumbag like one of the littles??

People are so quick to assume wealth/affluence equals 'common sense' or 'high moral character'.

BTW, if I put a crack rock and a pipe on your hotel room pillow and you decide to PARTY, whose fault is that??

My mom used to work with juvenile delinquents when I was a kid, and one of the most difficult intellectual connections she tried to make with some of these youths was that you're not entitled to steal someone's radio just because some idiot forgot to lock their car door.

Most of these kids would reply to her error in logic, " well, if he didn't want his radio stolen, why didn't he lock his door?"

Round and round like that for months.

I don't care what the circumstances were, unless this woman propositioned him, Kahn is the one in the wrong, even if some of the events were 'orchestrated' against him.

hippifried
05-19-2011, 06:43 AM
A comedian's dream.

robertlouis
05-19-2011, 07:00 AM
He's resigned from the IMF.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13450783

scroller
05-19-2011, 09:02 AM
Something smells wrong about this.

Stavros
05-19-2011, 01:50 PM
Why are there two threads on this?

robertlouis
05-19-2011, 02:25 PM
I know that the Americans don't always see eye to eye with the French, but believe me, whether he's guilty or not of these accusations, in terms of his political stance and the work he's done to clean up and streamline the IMF since he took office - all their contributions to the global financial collapse happened before he joined - this is one of the good guys, and both the IMF and the world financial system will be worse off without him.

And fucking Sarkozy will almost certainly get another term in France.

alyssaluxor
05-19-2011, 04:01 PM
i find this guy HOT! i dont know why but theres something on him that exudes hotness! i think his roughness and tough manlyness!

robertlouis
05-19-2011, 04:08 PM
i find this guy HOT! i dont know why but theres something on him that exudes hotness! i think his roughness and tough manlyness!

And maybe ze accent, uh cherie?? :dancing:

alyssaluxor
05-19-2011, 04:18 PM
And maybe ze accent, uh cherie?? :dancing:

:iagree:

French accent very sexy makes my cock so HARD :jerkoff