Okay TRASH!

[ikilledjc]

http://youtu.be/O5_jSD2erFc

I'm going to be honest here, I have a bit of a crush on Holly Woodlawn. She's a transsexual for those that don't know. This was one of Andy Warhol avant-garde masterpieces.

[Stavros]

Trash may have come from the Warhol 'stable' but he had stopped making films by 1970 and it was direted by Paul Morrissey who was the man who directed all of the Warhol films with some kind of 'story' -Flesh, Lonesome Cowboys, Women in Revolt and so on, all rubbish but on the other hand a reasonable depiction of the kind of people they were in real life. I was amused at a screening of Women in Revolt in London's ICA cinema when a German woman started screaming 'Scheisse!' -I think she was a feminist. Warhols own films, Chelsea Girls, Couch, Empire State and so on, are typical of the man's empty talent: turn on the camera, and film whatever/whoever is in front of it. That part of Couch I saw was just various guys blowing each other. I thought at one point in Chelsea Girls I was going to go mad, I only watched all 3+ hours to say to someone like you I sat through it all. Warhol as a person was actually more interesting than his so-called art.

As for Holly, she lives in California...
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[Prospero]

Perhaps the dullest of all the Warhol films was about the empire state building. Filmed from dusk to dawn with the lights going on and off. On one level it was rather beautiful - and would serve today in one of these electronic picture frames. Conceptual art essentially - but as a film to watch? Well .. dull isn't even in the ballpark.

[Clone 0101]

Holly actually is not trans to be honest she has always lived as a male but has used her alter ego Holly Woodlawn to make a name for herself. The only transsexuals off the top of my head that he had in his work were of course Candy Darling and Jayne County... Candy Darling passed away in the 70's from cancer and Jayne County is still alive.

Ana

[Prospero]

Jayne was wayne before she transitioned and famously had a hit of sorts with "if You Don't want to fuck me, fuck off" with her group The Electric Chairs.

But she has not aged so well.

[Stavros]

The only transsexuals off the top of my head that he had in his work were of course Candy Darling and Jayne County... Candy Darling passed away in the 70's from cancer and Jayne County is still alive.

This might be because even in the 70s transexuals were not that common and in the UK and I think theUS (not sure) a man dressed as a woman was liable to be arrested -although some were so 'passable' it would never have happened.

I dont object to experimental films I like to think I will give any film my attention if someone has gone to the trouble to make it, and you can argue that films without a narrative are valid, maybe even 'challenge' the concept of narrative -but all Warhol did was turn the camera on, any one of us can do that.

[natina]

YouTube - Andy Warhol&#39;s "Trash" 1970 - Welfare scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5_jSD2erFc)

[ikilledjc]

YouTube - Andy Warhol's "Trash" 1970 - Welfare scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5_jSD2erFc)

"And you can't have my fuck'n shoes!" I love when she's getting all crazy.

[ikilledjc]

Perhaps the dullest of all the Warhol films was about the empire state building. Filmed from dusk to dawn with the lights going on and off. On one level it was rather beautiful - and would serve today in one of these electronic picture frames. Conceptual art essentially - but as a film to watch? Well .. dull isn't even in the ballpark.

I need to see that. I love that almost ambient feeling of trash, heat and flesh though. Such great stuff.

[ikilledjc]

Holly actually is not trans to be honest she has always lived as a male but has used her alter ego Holly Woodlawn to make a name for herself. The only transsexuals off the top of my head that he had in his work were of course Candy Darling and Jayne County... Candy Darling passed away in the 70's from cancer and Jayne County is still alive.

Ana



Interesting I thought she did identify as a woman. Candy darling was way hot.

[ikilledjc]

Trash may have come from the Warhol 'stable' but he had stopped making films by 1970 and it was direted by Paul Morrissey who was the man who directed all of the Warhol films with some kind of 'story' -Flesh, Lonesome Cowboys, Women in Revolt and so on, all rubbish but on the other hand a reasonable depiction of the kind of people they were in real life. I was amused at a screening of Women in Revolt in London's ICA cinema when a German woman started screaming 'Scheisse!' -I think she was a feminist. Warhols own films, Chelsea Girls, Couch, Empire State and so on, are typical of the man's empty talent: turn on the camera, and film whatever/whoever is in front of it. That part of Couch I saw was just various guys blowing each other. I thought at one point in Chelsea Girls I was going to go mad, I only watched all 3+ hours to say to someone like you I sat through it all. Warhol as a person was actually more interesting than his so-called art.

As for Holly, she lives in California...
Holly Woodlawn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holly_Woodlawn)

Yes exactly, it's definitely not the quality of the art we are really appealed to. I think it's just the rawness of them.