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Faldur
04-05-2011, 09:01 PM
Spend 8x more in a 31 day period than we take in..!!
(say it with me) "Yes we can!"

Double the federal deficit in 4 years!
"Yes we can!"

Can exceed the federal debt accumulated by other presidents in 2 years, in just 30 days!
"yes we can!!"

"4 more years!! We can bankrupt the country, in 4 more years!!!"
"Yes we ARE!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIA5aszzA18&feature=player_embedded

onmyknees
04-06-2011, 01:15 AM
What budget crisis? You just don't get it do you? It's all a fabrication of the right wing. Irskin Boles...the President's deficit commission?? LMAO...Pay them no mind, they know not what they say.
All this will become clear to you in due time .....Obama has a plan.

onmyknees
04-06-2011, 01:48 AM
It's God's Will that Obama breeze to a second term and resolve all this......Think I'm joking? I wish...

At the conclusion of last night's Hard Ball, Matthew's finished with this....


"Maybe this is God`s will, that Obama not have a reasonable opponent out there. How`s that for an incendiary statement"?

This from a network that the left says plays it down the middle !!!!!!! LMAO

trish
04-06-2011, 03:09 AM
What budget crisis?The one Bush got us into by giving a ten year budget surplus to the wealthiest upper crust in the form of tax breaks, dragging us into two decade long wars in the Middle East, and deregulating the banking industry to the point where we suffered a collapse as severe as the great depression....that budget crisis. Let's do ourselves in entirely and elect another so called "conservative."

Ben
04-06-2011, 03:13 AM
Fool Us Twice? Can Obama Get Reelected?


by Ted Rall (http://www.commondreams.org/ted-rall)


NEW YORK -- Usually I don't care about political horseraces. Yet I am fascinated by Obama's reelection bid. Never mind what's good for the country. I'm dying to hear him make his case for another four years.
I don't pretend to be able to predict the future. But I have a rich imagination--and I still can't begin to guess how the president can convince a majority of voters to choose him over the Republican nominee whether he be Mitt Romney or she be Michele Bachmann.
Obama is good with words. But what can he possibly say for himself after this first fiddling-while-Rome-burns term?
The president only has one major accomplishment to his credit: healthcare reform. However--assuming Republicans don't repeal it--it doesn't go into effect until 2014. Which, from Obama's standpoint, actually helps him. After people find out how it transforms the First World's worst healthcare system into something even crappier and more expensive, they'll be burning him in effigy.
"Socialized" (if only!) healthcare has driven away the Reagan Democrat swing voters who formed half of Obama's margin of victory in 2008. Unless the GOP nominates some total loon (hi Michele) or past-due retread (what up Newt) these ideological reeds in the wind will blow Republican.
The other major component of the Obama coalition, young and reenergized older liberals, see ObamaCare as a right-wing sellout to corporations. Nothing less than single-payer would have satisfied them. On other issues it seems that Obama has missed few opportunities to alienate the Democrats' liberal base.
"The combination of Afghanistan and Libya could bring a bitter end to the romance between Democratic liberals and Obama," Steve Chapman writes in Reasonmagazine. "Many of them were already disappointed with him for extending the Bush tax cuts, bailing out Wall Street, omitting a public option from the healthcare overhaul, offering to freeze domestic discretionary spending, and generally declining to go after Republicans hammer and tong."
Chapman predicts a strong primary challenge to Obama's left flank--someone like Russ Feingold.
Lefties are also angry about Obama's other lies and betrayals: keeping Gitmo open, signing off on assassinations and even the torture of U.S. soldiers (PFC Bradley Manning), redefining U.S. troops in Iraq as "support personnel." Just this week he reneged on his promise to get rid of Bush's kangaroo courts and put 9/11 suspects on trial.
Everyone--left, middle and right--is furious about his Herbert Hoover-like lack of concern over the economy. While the multimillionaire president blithely talks about a recovery as he heads off to golf with his wealthy friends, unemployment is rising and becoming structural. Obama will surely pay for the disconnect between reality (no jobs, shrinking paychecks, hidden inflation) and the rosy rhetoric coming out of the White House and U.S. state media.
What, exactly, will be Obama's 2012 sales pitch? I seriously want to know. Think about it: how many other presidents have been so disappointing that they had to distribute lists of their accomplishments so their supporters would have talking points?
Among the highlights of one of these enumerations going around the Internet are:
"1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending.
"5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB.
"14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research."
I'm in favor of these things. (Although I'm not sure why, with real unemployment over 20 percent and the NSA rifling through my email, I should care about numbers 76--"appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court"--or 86--"held first Seder in the White House." Really?)
Will micro-mini-accomplishment lites be enough to pry liberal asses off the sofa on Election Day? I think not. On the Big Issues That Really Matter--war, the economy, civil liberties--Obama is a right-wing Republican. He's only a Democrat on the little stuff. Liberals won't turn out big for Obama in 2012.
That goes double for the youth vote, a big bloc for O in 2008. From student loan debt to unemployment (which hits Americans under 30 even harder than other age groups), Obama hasn't delivered. They'll sit on their hands.
"We've always known that lasting change wouldn't come quickly or easily," began Obama's official campaign announcement.
"Always known"?
Remember those Soviet-style "Hope" and "Change" posters from '08, presenting the skinny Columbia grad as a postmodern Messiah for a nation ravaged by eight years of Bush? Just guessing, but somehow I doubt Obama's propaganda would have gone over as easily with the caption "Change That Won't Come Quickly or Easily."
"It begins with us," will apparently be one of the slogans for Obama-Biden 2012.
That's the problem Obama faces next year. In 2008 he told us it was going to begin with him.

Ben
04-06-2011, 03:20 AM
Obama and the Ghost of '68 (http://reason.com/archives/2011/03/28/obama-and-the-ghost-of-68)

Will liberal voters abandon their president over Libya?

Another interesting article at the Libertarian website Reason:

http://reason.com/archives/2011/03/28/obama-and-the-ghost-of-68

onmyknees
04-06-2011, 03:28 AM
The one Bush got us into by giving a ten year budget surplus to the wealthiest upper crust in the form of tax breaks, dragging us into two decade long wars in the Middle East, and deregulating the banking industry to the point where we suffered a collapse as severe as the great depression....that budget crisis. Let's do ourselves in entirely and elect another so called "conservative."


Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ....now that's hysterical...there isn't an economist alive who wouldn't trade Bush's budget deficits for Obamas. Here'a a fact Trish....wrap your mind around this......

Obama has racked up more debt in just 2 years than any President in History...PERIOD>>>>

And when's the blame Bush game going to end ? It's getting weaker every day, but when it's your only ace in the hole....I suppose you have to play it. It's about time your guy man the fuck up and start solving some problems and do I dare say.....LEADING . He's been MIA on the budget.....and btw.......this current budget problem is because Barry, nor either democratically controlled side of Congress had the political will or sence of duty to submit a budget for fiscal or calander year 2010 !!!!!!!!! That's a first....wear it proud Trish. Bush is in Texas cutting brush and has been for over 2 years. Man up Barry.

trish
04-06-2011, 03:39 AM
There's is nary an economist who isn't recommending more stimulus spending to create jobs and maintain infrastructure.

Bush will always be the man who brought on the second great depression...PERIOD

south ov da border
04-06-2011, 04:54 AM
Clinton was in on this as well. Enron didn't just happen under bush...

Ineeda SM
04-06-2011, 05:23 AM
Clinton was in on this as well. Enron didn't just happen under bush...

Enron had nothing to do with our economic troubles today. The illegal invasion of Iraq by Bush, and the billions of $$$ in tax breaks for the rich and big businesses to send American jobs abroad, caused our recent depression. Clinton left Bush with the best fucking economy this country has ever seen, and a surplus for the first time in history.

south ov da border
04-06-2011, 05:35 AM
using Enron as an example of insider trading, fraud and stock market swindling. Lots of stuff happened under Clinton that allowed Bush to do what he did...

Ineeda SM
04-06-2011, 06:42 AM
using Enron as an example of insider trading, fraud and stock market swindling. Lots of stuff happened under Clinton that allowed Bush to do what he did...

Sorry but no law that was added or changed, or struck down during the Clinton years, allowed Bush to do anything he did to fuck this country. Insider trading has been happening since the stock market was invented.

Bush's illegal war was done by Bush against the UN and the world opinion, and costs American taxpayers $3.4 trillion, and murdered almost 5,000 American soldiers.

Ronald Reagan was the first president to give the rich and big businesses a large tax break as an incentive to move American jobs outside the country. Clinton reversed that tax break and raised taxes on the rich and big businesses, which improved our economy immensely.

Bush Jr brought back the Reagan tax breaks, except he increased the tax breaks by 21% over Reagan's tax breaks. Then Bush and the GOP congress found a way to increase the taxes to the middle class. This is why we are in such financial troubles. Inside traders and Clinton had nothing to do with it. Clinton left us in great condition. Bush fucked us into our problems today with the Iraq war and incredible tax breaks for the rich.

The joke is, the republicans accuse Obama of wanting to distrubute the wealth, but it was perfectly okay when Reagan and Bush did it for the rich. Funny how that works, isn't it.

south ov da border
04-06-2011, 04:19 PM
so clinton and the allowed de-regulating Wall Street had nothing to do with this? Clinton let the bankers run wild with Greenspan. Citigroup happened under his watch. Ever heard of the Glass Stegall act and how they just said screw it? It's the Fed that is to blame if anything. But they've known the economy was going to collapse when the baby boomers hit about 40 years back.

a good flick by the way.
http://stagevu.com/video/evkaiqofcvxv

just watch...

Faldur
04-06-2011, 06:47 PM
Clinton was good for our country, don't think that can be denied. Sure he made a few mistakes, but overall he was a good thing.

Ineeda SM
04-06-2011, 09:59 PM
so clinton and the allowed de-regulating Wall Street had nothing to do with this? Clinton let the bankers run wild with Greenspan. Citigroup happened under his watch. Ever heard of the Glass Stegall act and how they just said screw it? It's the Fed that is to blame if anything. But they've known the economy was going to collapse when the baby boomers hit about 40 years back.

a good flick by the way.
http://stagevu.com/video/evkaiqofcvxv

just watch...

I don't know where you get your facts, but Reagan was the man to deregulate everything in big business including the banks. Citigroup was greedy long before Clinton was heard of. The fed always plays a roll in economic problems. It doesn't matter which party is in control.

But the one very important fact that you keep overlooking is that Clinton handed Bush the best economy ever. The highest employment rate ever. The biggest boom in housing. Interest rates had leveled off at a good number. The rich was finally paying their fair share, and the middle and working class got a break for a change. And for the first time in history, Clinton balanced the budget, and gave Bush a surplus of cash in the treasury.

This means that on the day that Bush took office, America was working, we had extra money, and we were actually paying down the national debt every year for the first time in our entire history as a nation. In just 8 years, Bush took us into an illegal war in Iraq which killed almost 5,000 American soldiers, so Bush could impress his daddy. Bush gave the biggest tax cuts in history to the rich and big business, and the middle and working class had to pay for it with higher taxes. He made us new enemies around the world with his cowboy arrogance, and almost doubled the national debt by adding $3.4TRILLION to it. Mostly from the illegal Iraq war which he lied his ass off to get us in there. He's a murderer and a traitor, yet the right wing treats him like a fucking hero.

Now we are suffering with the worse economy ever because of the republicans, and the republican right wing assholes have the fucking nerve to blame Obama for not fixing it fast enough. They block Obama at every turn to make him look bad and fail. They worked with Clinton on the same kind of policies. So why are they trying to hurt Obama? BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. There is no other possible reason. The GOP are a clique of racist greedy assholes.

trish
04-06-2011, 10:01 PM
Clinton is indeed to be blamed for the demise of the Glass-Stegall Act which was a major step toward deregulation. There was little to no Republican dissent. But it cannot be denied that Clinton left office with a ten year budget surplus which Bush promised to give to the wealthy in tax breaks and thus he did. And then he started a unnecessary decade long war in Iraq and continued deregulating banks, forgave corporations royalties on natural resources they took from National lands, and expanded their access to resources on National lands. As a result, even though their was a collapse of the banking system, banks are bigger than ever before, their employees are making bigger bonuses than ever, corporations are making record profits, and 1% of the population owns 40% of its wealth. With the tea-baggers and the GOP dragging their feet every step of the way, this is going to take forever to turn around.

south ov da border
04-07-2011, 01:41 AM
Clinton is indeed to be blamed for the demise of the Glass-Stegall Act which was a major step toward deregulation. There was little to no Republican dissent. But it cannot be denied that Clinton left office with a ten year budget surplus which Bush promised to give to the wealthy in tax breaks and thus he did. And then he started a unnecessary decade long war in Iraq and continued deregulating banks, forgave corporations royalties on natural resources they took from National lands, and expanded their access to resources on National lands. As a result, even though their was a collapse of the banking system, banks are bigger than ever before, their employees are making bigger bonuses than ever, corporations are making record profits, and 1% of the population owns 40% of its wealth. With the tea-baggers and the GOP dragging their feet every step of the way, this is going to take forever to turn around.

both parties are complicit. They just keep the game going...