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FreddieGomez
04-04-2011, 01:06 AM
Idk nobody can top Brazilian trannie porn. They're just born to fuck.....

Star Angel 86
04-04-2011, 01:14 AM
Idk nobody can top Brazilian trannie porn. They're just born to fuck.....

Freddie M8 I have to agree and Joey Silvera needs to go back down to Brazil where his Rogue Adventures all began.:mrgreen:8):cheers:

Quiet Reflections
04-04-2011, 01:17 AM
I have to agree with you, but then we aren't number 1 at much anymore are we

Star Angel 86
04-04-2011, 01:37 AM
I have to agree with you, but then we aren't number 1 at much anymore are we

Not at porn or beer anyway.

theone1982
04-04-2011, 01:43 AM
I completely agree. To me Brazilian TS porn IS TS porn, all the other countries are just mimicking the Brazilian aesthetic. I've watched plenty of scenes, both American and Asian, where the girls just sit there like a dead fish and get screwed, but most of the time with the Brazilians, they moan, they yell, they plead for more, they just, in general, get more into it.

nonnonnon
04-04-2011, 01:45 AM
and I think thailand is #1 but you can't beat the variety of american girls. all shapes, sizes and shades

Ben
04-04-2011, 01:46 AM
Idk nobody can top Brazilian trannie porn. They're just born to fuck.....

There are sooo many... I mean, sooo many stunning shemales from Brazil. Like Angel Star. Mylena Bismark... etc. etc. But American shemale porn is far from boring. I like both. I wouldn't say that one is better than the other.

Ben
04-04-2011, 01:53 AM
You really can't beat Brazilian babe Mylena Bismark -- :)

rockabilly
04-04-2011, 02:05 AM
You damn unpatriotic Benedict Arnolds!

GTFO

WendyWilliams
04-04-2011, 02:10 AM
Its TRANNY not trannie

LeatherTGirlLover
04-04-2011, 02:11 AM
Depends what and who you're watching, some good stuff out there just need to search it out

FreddieGomez
04-04-2011, 02:20 AM
it dont interest me much. and i'm not into seein trannies topping i guess and most videos jus got a boring atmosphere idk....that's why i only watch the free shit online

Quiet Reflections
04-04-2011, 02:21 AM
You damn unpatriotic Benedict Arnolds!

GTFOThey took er jerbs!

rockabilly
04-04-2011, 02:31 AM
Took er Jerbz!!!

Nowhere
04-04-2011, 02:50 AM
I'm not going to knock American porn, but the Brazilians are the champs. There is some good porn made here, of course, but it's not the majority and it's not as good as Brazil.

I might just be guessing, but maybe it has to do with the fact that SO MUCH of American trans porn is about having tiny little powerbottom boys drilled like schoolgirls by tgirls clearly holding back their disgust while they're on viagra or lesbian tporn, both which do nothing for me.

If you want to see trans porn where you're going to have a guy banging the hell out of a girl and where she's truly loving it (like actually seeing people kiss - how much chemistry can you have without it???), Brazil is #1, and has been #1 for a very long time.

theone1982
04-04-2011, 03:01 AM
I don't think all American or Asian TS porn is boring, I've certainly seen some hot scenes in both, particularly with Danielle Foxx, Hazel Tucker, Kelly Shore, Ashley George, Morgan Bailey, Astrid Shay, Cream, and Eye. But with the Brazilians it just seems like there is more lust for each other going on, it seems more real, and less like two or more people thrown into a room together and expected to have sex.

onmyknees
04-04-2011, 03:10 AM
it dont interest me much. And i'm not into seein trannies topping i guess and most videos jus got a boring atmosphere idk....that's why i only watch the free shit online


lmao

Quiet Reflections
04-04-2011, 03:17 AM
I don't think all American or Asian TS porn is boring, I've certainly seen some hot scenes in both, particularly with Danielle Foxx, Hazel Tucker, Kelly Shore, Ashley George, Morgan Bailey, Astrid Shay, Cream, and Eye. But with the Brazilians it just seems like there is more lust for each other going on, it seems more real, and less like two or more people thrown into a room together and expected to have sex. Your right not all of it is but generally speaking it is lacking in some areas. I get tired of seeing porn stars that have bored looks on their faces and that goes for non TS porn too. It seems like so many of them act as though they are to good to be there performing and how dare we enjoy watching them.

TSPornFan
04-04-2011, 03:24 AM
I don't see the difference where the porn is made. They all use the same positions. They're not doing anything different.

I'm guessing this is a racial issue? I only watch American Transsexual porn because they speak English and I want to know what is being said. I only watch story roleplay porn.


Freddie M8 I have to agree and Joey Silvera needs to go back down to Brazil where his Rogue Adventures all began.:mrgreen:8):cheers:

Joey makes awful porn. Any porn without a story is bad in my opinion.

Quiet Reflections
04-04-2011, 03:39 AM
I don't see the difference where the porn is made. They all use the same positions. They're not doing anything different.

I'm guessing this is a racial issue? I only watch American Transsexual porn because they speak English and I want to know what is being said. I only watch story roleplay porn.



Joey makes awful porn. Any porn without a story is bad in my opinion.
I don't care about race. I just want to see people enjoying themselves or at least appearing to

Star Angel 86
04-04-2011, 03:55 AM
Joey makes awful porn. Any porn without a story is bad in my opinion.

Without Joey Silvera and Evil Angel Transgender porn would be where it is today.
As is I have a rather large collection of adult videos I have over 1000 VHS tapes and over 200 DVD's.A small percentage of what I own maybe 2 % are TS oriented videos of that 2 % a majority of it is from Joey Silvera and Evil Angel.:cheers::cool:

timxxx
04-04-2011, 03:57 AM
Have to agree that American tranny porn is boring,same guys fucking the same girls,that said the last two videos l actually paid money for were the Hazel Tucker & Morgan Bailey films.

theone1982
04-04-2011, 04:01 AM
Have to agree that American tranny porn is boring,same guys fucking the same girls,that said the last two videos l actually paid money for were the Hazel Tucker & Morgan Bailey films.

Yeah, me too. Hazel actually gets into it and talks during sex, saying "Do you like that ass-pussy?" "It's so deep!", "I'm gonna cum!" and so on. That's a really big turn on to me, rather than the girl just laying there and taking it without saying a word. Plus Hazel sounds like she means it, so either she's a really good actor, or she's really into it.

TSPornFan
04-04-2011, 04:20 AM
Without Joey Silvera and Evil Angel Transgender porn would be where it is today.
As is I have a rather large collection of adult videos I have over 1000 VHS tapes and over 200 DVD's.A small percentage of what I own maybe 2 % are TS oriented videos of that 2 % a majority of it is from Joey Silvera and Evil Angel.:cheers::cool:

I don't see how he has made a difference. No other company follows his style of gonzo porn. If he actually paid attention story porn is more in demand at the moment. In my opinion I don't see one company that has made a huge difference in transsexual porn.

theone1982
04-04-2011, 04:28 AM
My problem with Silvera is that there is too much shit going on. It's never just one on one, man and TS. It's always like a threesome or more with another TS or a GG, or just a one on one with a GG and a TS, or a scene where only the man gets topped. I prefer just full tilt man on TS, and that's rare in Silvera's work. Plus the scenes are always too long, like 40-45 minutes. In my opinion, one complete scene shouldn't be more than 30 minutes. These days I much prefer Third World Media for there TS porn. I agree that Silvera is important in the history of TS porn, in terms of raising quality standards, but I think his stuff has a become a little stale, along with the problems I mentioned above.

JamesHunt
04-04-2011, 04:40 AM
Italian tranny porn is pretty cool too

Silcc69
04-04-2011, 04:51 AM
If they could only speak english it would be the best pron out there.

Star Angel 86
04-04-2011, 04:59 AM
I don't see how he has made a difference. No other company follows his style of gonzo porn. If he actually paid attention story porn is more in demand at the moment. In my opinion I don't see one company that has made a huge difference in transsexual porn.

Joey Silvera and Evil Angel brought a whole new audience to Transgeder porn.
People who had not viewed TS porn were suddenly viewing it.This is dating back to 1998 when Joey came out with his Rogue Adventure series.After all the Evil Empire has a rather large fan following with their Hall Of Fame directors and this definitely got peoples curiosity going.

LittleGuy
04-04-2011, 05:09 AM
I agree

GrimFusion
04-04-2011, 05:18 AM
Without Joey Silvera and Evil Angel Transgender porn would be where it is today.
As is I have a rather large collection of adult videos I have over 1000 VHS tapes and over 200 DVD's.A small percentage of what I own maybe 2 % are TS oriented videos of that 2 % a majority of it is from Joey Silvera and Evil Angel.:cheers::cool:

Why do you have that much porn? I'm not trying to be crucial, but that does come across a little creepy.

Star Angel 86
04-04-2011, 05:44 AM
Why do you have that much porn? I'm not trying to be crucial, but that does come across a little creepy.

I've been collecting porn since the 80's.
When I started making decent money employed at Los Angeles strip club when I would I get my paycheck or tip money I would immediately head to Red Hot Video or Hustler of Hollywood and purchase my favorite videos and if they didn't have them in stock I would then place order through a mailorder company.
Plain and simple porn is my interest that is why I'm here on these forums.
Believe me my collection is not all that unusual I'm on forums where there are people whose collection far surpasses mine.

dlbi22
04-04-2011, 06:07 AM
Why do you have that much porn? I'm not trying to be crucial, but that does come across a little creepy.

your face is creepy

GroobySteven
04-04-2011, 06:22 AM
Yet American porn massively outsells Brazilian porn. More people are looking at American porn as they are able to identify with it bett.er.

No doubt Brazilian porn IS the best, the girls not only look fantastic but they are outrageously into it also but more people are buying US.

Dino Velvet
04-04-2011, 06:41 AM
Apples and Oranges, both good.

Seanchai, if you're still around, read this. The porn Buddy has been making is good. Why? Lots of porn has hot women and great sex. But, Buddy's movies that I have seen have a fun 80s feeling and a decent soundtrack. There's even a little story going on. I got so sick of hard gonzo porn. Same shit with the same people on the same drugs all with the same lifeless, dead eyes. Thanks for making pornography fun but still keeping it dirty.

theone1982
04-04-2011, 07:03 AM
Yet American porn massively outsells Brazilian porn. More people are looking at American porn as they are able to identify with it bett.er.

No doubt Brazilian porn IS the best, the girls not only look fantastic but they are outrageously into it also but more people are buying US.

Brazilian TS porn may not sell more, but it certainly seems to have a greater representation in the market. I'd say that in porn shops there are about 5 TS Brazilian DVDs to every 1 TS American DVDs.

alyssaluxor
04-04-2011, 01:10 PM
I rarely and dont watch TS porn but sometimes i love watching Brazillian TS porn for usually their Brazillian guy partner there is usually hot and yummy! cant control myself instant HARD COCK lol

phobun
04-04-2011, 01:25 PM
I rarely and dont watch TS porn but sometimes i love watching Brazillian TS porn


Do you enjoy gay porn?

addicted
04-04-2011, 01:33 PM
your face is creepy

putting your face on a site like this is creepy and promoting green with a stupid hat is creepy.

Martin C.
04-04-2011, 01:33 PM
at least we are # 1 in something ...

addicted
04-04-2011, 01:36 PM
Joey Silvera and Evil Angel brought a whole new audience to Transgeder porn.
People who had not viewed TS porn were suddenly viewing it.This is dating back to 1998 when Joey came out with his Rogue Adventure series.After all the Evil Empire has a rather large fan following with their Hall Of Fame directors and this definitely got peoples curiosity going.

ok thats old news right now there are plenty of content producers in brazil surpassing anything joey silvera ever did.

alyssaluxor
04-04-2011, 03:54 PM
Do you enjoy gay porn?

yes i love gay porn! straight porn, group sex porn and many more...

GroobySteven
04-04-2011, 04:37 PM
ok thats old news right now there are plenty of content producers in brazil surpassing anything joey silvera ever did.


Whom?
I don't see any.

GroobySteven
04-04-2011, 04:39 PM
Seanchai, if you're still around, read this. The porn Buddy has been making is good. Why? Lots of porn has hot women and great sex. But, Buddy's movies that I have seen have a fun 80s feeling and a decent soundtrack. There's even a little story going on. I got so sick of hard gonzo porn. Same shit with the same people on the same drugs all with the same lifeless, dead eyes. Thanks for making pornography fun but still keeping it dirty.

I agree, I love his stuff but it also gets expensive to produce DVD's like Hazel Does Hollywood and Morgan Bailey's Bad Day compared just to scene movies without storylines or as involved editing, and the amount of sales made on these titles doesn't really justify the outlay/return.

phobun
04-04-2011, 05:00 PM
ok thats old news right now there are plenty of content producers in brazil surpassing anything joey silvera ever did.


Didn't Darren James catch HIV from a porn shoot in Brazil? Tell us about HIV, addicted.

GroobySteven
04-04-2011, 05:03 PM
Didn't Darren James catch HIV from a porn shoot in Brazil? Tell us about HIV, addicted.

Well so did John Stagliano at the same time Joey was shooting down there.
What's your point?

phobun
04-04-2011, 05:07 PM
Well so did John Stagliano at the same time Joey was shooting down there.
What's your point?


addicted doesn't believe in HIV

GroobySteven
04-04-2011, 05:16 PM
addicted doesn't believe in HIV

Ahh ok. Car crash waiting to happen.

msbhaven
04-04-2011, 05:21 PM
I couldn't disagree more. I find Brazilian porn to be boring repetitive and uninteresting. I can't fully engaged with the people involved because I don't speak Portuguese, I find many of the girls to be too hard edged (too much silicone that is not top quality work, and too much masculinity when they speak or moan), and the men are too trashy looking IMO. Additionally the look and feel of the actresses and actors the sets and scenes are all incredibly repetitive to me. If you've seen one Brazilian porn flick it seems like you have seen them all.

American porn might out sell Brazilian porn but Brazilian porn absolutely saturates the market. Every TGP, Tube and list site is just filled with it. And there seem to be a million pay sites all reselling the same Brazilian based porn to make a quick buck off of the genre as a sideline to some other type of porn they sell. I get the impression (please correct me if I'm wrong) that the girls and boys in Brazil will work at a much lower wage then you could pay them in the USA and that has a lot to do with why there is so freakin much product featuring them on the market.

alyssaluxor
04-04-2011, 05:24 PM
I find European HOT also.

My fave are Japanese guys/porn yum yum

GroobySteven
04-04-2011, 05:26 PM
I couldn't disagree more. I find Brazilian porn to be boring repetitive and uninteresting. I can't fully engaged with the people involved because I don't speak Portuguese, I find many of the girls to be too hard edged (too much silicone that is not top quality work, and too much masculinity when they speak or moan), and the men are too trashy looking IMO. Additionally the look and feel of the actresses and actors the sets and scenes are all incredibly repetitive to me. If you've seen one Brazilian porn flick it seems like you have seen them all.

American porn might out sell Brazilian porn but Brazilian porn absolutely saturates the market. Every TGP, Tube and list site is just filled with it. And there seem to be a million pay sites all reselling the same Brazilian based porn to make a quick buck off of the genre as a sideline to some other type of porn they sell. I get the impression (please correct me if I'm wrong) that the girls and boys in Brazil will work at a much lower wage then you could pay them in the USA and that has a lot to do with why there is so freakin much product featuring them on the market.

Great post Ashley and I believe indicative of how many consumers feel.

There actually isn't as much Brazilian porn being produced in the last 12-24 months due to the Real being so strong, it's almost brought producing in Brazil to be as expensive. Much of the content that has been and is still produced well are by large companies who work mainly outside this niche and don't really know it well.

rockabilly
04-04-2011, 06:11 PM
meh i have a brazilian tg porn dvd ... it was boring imo.

Dino Velvet
04-04-2011, 06:36 PM
I agree, I love his stuff but it also gets expensive to produce DVD's like Hazel Does Hollywood and Morgan Bailey's Bad Day compared just to scene movies without storylines or as involved editing, and the amount of sales made on these titles doesn't really justify the outlay/return.

You just named my two favorite ones with Hazel and Morgan's videos. I also like the Asian Shemale Invasion one as it pacifies my Yellow Fever.

Star Angel 86
04-04-2011, 06:54 PM
ok thats old news right now there are plenty of content producers in brazil surpassing anything joey silvera ever did.

You're right it is old news as is I dated my facts from 1998 TS porn would not be what is today without Joey Silvera and Evil Angel.
As far as producers surpassing Joey Silvera,I don't see it happening State side and even it were true Joey Silvera paved their way.Also Joey Silvera has many projects not just TS porn as is discontinued his best series that being Service Animals.


Didn't Darren James catch HIV from a porn shoot in Brazil? Tell us about HIV, addicted.

Darren James,did catch the HIV virus while in Brazil on shoot for TT Boy where he had unprotected sex with Bianca Biaggi a Brazilian porn actress who also worked as an escort and also contacted the HIV virus as well.

ghbryans1
04-04-2011, 07:10 PM
IMHO the Italian stuff is usually the best pro stuff. If you want real, some of the amateur stuff is very good. Occasionally Shemale Yum captures some real passion.

I'd rather see poorly lit real sex that most of the well-dressed, fake-smile, viagra-enabled stuff you find in such abundance.

This is what you get when you have so many people with little talent or imagination trying to make a quick buck with today's easy access to equipment. My apologies to those who do try and occasionally succeed like Tara, JJ, Natassia, etc.

jimmeer
04-04-2011, 07:19 PM
In my view it is the lack of imagination of the people behind the camera, not the girls in front which is the problem. Virtually every photoshoot and vid is repetitive and boring. Just occasionally the girl in front of the camera has enough personality and sex appeal to make it work herself, but that is not easy. Used to have storylines and girls dressed in clothes to start with, but now it is just wham bam thank you sir.

addicted
04-04-2011, 07:51 PM
Didn't Darren James catch HIV from a porn shoot in Brazil? Tell us about HIV, addicted.

How would they know he had hiv?

addicted
04-04-2011, 07:52 PM
You're right it is old news as is I dated my facts from 1998 TS porn would not be what is today without Joey Silvera and Evil Angel.
As far as producers surpassing Joey Silvera,I don't see it happening State side and even it were true Joey Silvera paved their way.Also Joey Silvera has many projects not just TS porn as is discontinued his best series that being Service Animals.



Darren James,did catch the HIV virus while in Brazil on shoot for TT Boy where he had unprotected sex with Bianca Biaggi a Brazilian porn actress who also worked as an escort and also contacted the HIV virus as well.

nonsense

Star Angel 86
04-04-2011, 08:11 PM
nonsense

Excuse me it's known fact do some research fella.
As is I know someone that knows Darren James personally.

msbhaven
04-04-2011, 08:21 PM
In my view it is the lack of imagination of the people behind the camera, not the girls in front which is the problem. Virtually every photoshoot and vid is repetitive and boring. Just occasionally the girl in front of the camera has enough personality and sex appeal to make it work herself, but that is not easy. Used to have storylines and girls dressed in clothes to start with, but now it is just wham bam thank you sir.

I think this is spot on accurate for the most part. I will say that there are some girls that do porn both T and Genetic that wouldn't know sexy if it smacked them in the ass and pulled their hair. For the people in front of the camera it is all about understanding poses, attitude, and desire (at least the fake variety at a minimum). Some girls seem to think if they have their cloths off and a dick inside them that it's sufficient. Nope not really sweetie, you need to at least pretend like it's the best experience of your life.

That being said, SOME of that is on the camera man/director/producer. They should have at least some idea themselves of what is sexy and what is not and be able to coach their models on these topics. Some models are naturals and some just aren't coachable but almost everybody can improve themselves. As talent spotters the producers and directors should be willing to move on from those models who can't learn how to become good models/actresses too and not just stick with them because they have a pretty face, or a nice body. Some of the sexiest girls I've ever seen were not a 10 9 8 or even a 7 in looks but they understood desire and could convey it through a camera lens.

As for the shoots themselves I agree with your points, and would like to add that it pisses me off to no end to watch porn with models that I think are hot that is filmed at a poor angle or in a poor position or with poor lighting, or poor editing. Yes I know that's a lot of variables but this is not fucking rocket science. Good hardcore porn scenes should include two things in most of the positions/angles/shots that are used. They should include an ass mouth or pussy stuffed full of a cock, and you should be able to see the girls eyes (guys too if possible I guess) while she is being fucked/giving a blowjob. This is where the acting part comes in to play, her facial expression should convey that she is enjoying the shit out of whatever she is fucking doing too. If she isn't then she needs to know how to fake it convincingly.

Want examples of things that really piss me off? Positions/or camera angles that don't show a good job of penetration. If you aren't seeing it you might as well be watching an R rated movie at the local theater. Seriously porn is all about hot girls and boys having hard cock inserted. Everything else is window dressing. Editing that quickly cuts from a hot angle or position to a different angle (usually some exposition type bullshit angle too, this isn't fucking film school people). Cameramen that can't keep the action in focus and in frame. Damn pay attention moron, we should all know what everybody wants to see and where it is. Cameramen or other off camera people that can't shut the fuck up. It's perfectly fine to hear ONE or TWO random comments, or to have an off camera interview voice AT THE BEGINNING of the video. But when the girl is screaming with pleasure and about to cum, comments from the peanut gallery are annoying and distracting (there is one exception to this for me, if you are really clever/funny in what you say I can live with it. I enjoy the hush pass websites and some of those off camera guys crack me the fuck up with their comments. Most of em should learn to STFU though.) Girls that lay there as quiet as a church mouse. This one is inexcusable to me because EVERYBODY can learn to fake sexual pleasure. I refer you to the famous scene with Meg Ryan in when Harry met Sally if you need pointers or practice tips.

Basically there has never been a time IMO when porn has been more about making a quick buck, and involved more people that don't know what the fuck they are doing both in front of and behind the camera. Yes there is good porn out there, and there is probably more good porn out there then ever, but the shear volume of porn being made right now makes finding good porn like sorting through a needle in a haystack.

Ashlee

addicted
04-04-2011, 09:30 PM
Excuse me it's known fact do some research fella.
As is I know someone that knows Darren James personally.

the hiv test gives a false reading and has been proven to be a bogus test. Whether dj had a std is a different story.

Star Angel 86
04-04-2011, 10:01 PM
the hiv test gives a false reading and has been proven to be a bogus test. Whether dj had a std is a different story.

I'm going by an article I read in AVN when the news of this first broke.Also I was employed at Los Angeles strip club and someone who was in industry told this to me before it ever was published in AVN.I have not heard any follow up stories whether his test was bogus or not.

Clind
04-04-2011, 10:31 PM
I think that the worst porn that i have ever watched its the Brazilian porno movies,they have the

Worst productions
Worst directors(if they even have one)
Worst male actors
Worst Montage
Brazilian Porn Sucks like nothing else
the only good thing is the gorgeous girls

American porno is for sure much better same with Italian

addicted
04-04-2011, 10:32 PM
Not just his test the hiv test is false reading. the onloy thing that stops the truth from coming to the forefront is a billion dollar industry. darren james was a cool dude its a shame he had to be victim to such a corrupt industry known as modern medicine.

nonnonnon
04-04-2011, 10:34 PM
who cares about a storyline? rofl

kaiser1one
04-04-2011, 10:58 PM
Alot of TS porn sucks in general. It's not just America.

traLika
04-04-2011, 11:04 PM
Want examples of things that really piss me off? Positions/or camera angles that don't show a good job of penetration. If you aren't seeing it you might as well be watching an R rated movie at the local theater. Seriously porn is all about hot girls and boys having hard cock inserted. Everything else is window dressing. Editing that quickly cuts from a hot angle or position to a different angle (usually some exposition type bullshit angle too, this isn't fucking film school people). Cameramen that can't keep the action in focus and in frame. Damn pay attention moron, we should all know what everybody wants to see and where it is. Cameramen or other off camera people that can't shut the fuck up. It's perfectly fine to hear ONE or TWO random comments, or to have an off camera interview voice AT THE BEGINNING of the video. But when the girl is screaming with pleasure and about to cum, comments from the peanut gallery are annoying and distracting (there is one exception to this for me, if you are really clever/funny in what you say I can live with it. I enjoy the hush pass websites and some of those off camera guys crack me the fuck up with their comments. Most of em should learn to STFU though.) Girls that lay there as quiet as a church mouse. This one is inexcusable to me because EVERYBODY can learn to fake sexual pleasure. I refer you to the famous scene with Meg Ryan in when Harry met Sally if you need pointers or practice tips.

Basically there has never been a time IMO when porn has been more about making a quick buck, and involved more people that don't know what the fuck they are doing both in front of and behind the camera. Yes there is good porn out there, and there is probably more good porn out there then ever, but the shear volume of porn being made right now makes finding good porn like sorting through a needle in a haystack.



Couldn’t agree more. Poor camerawork extends to solo stuff too. I can think of one guy who has an annoying tendency to clumsily linger over ‘dead’ areas like the middle of a torso – I find myself going “No! Pan up to her face (or titties) or down to her clit!” The same guy is also incredibly noisy with his camera and the way he interacts with girls is crap. His stuff is a nightmare...

Going back to faces… I’d love to see more close ups, particularly eyes and lips. There’s such a lot of sexy stuff that can be done there…

TSPornFan
04-05-2011, 02:53 AM
who cares about a storyline? rofl

I do!:dancing:


I agree, I love his stuff but it also gets expensive to produce DVD's like Hazel Does Hollywood and Morgan Bailey's Bad Day compared just to scene movies without storylines or as involved editing, and the amount of sales made on these titles doesn't really justify the outlay/return.

Straight American porn mostly is story based. That could be why it sells so well.

It could be the fact that most people who like transsexual porn are more into gonzo porn than people who like straight porn. Just a theory.

In my opinion Bailey Jay makes the most boring porn. POV porn sucks. It has limited angles. The camera man doesn't know what's he doing.:yayo:

theone1982
04-05-2011, 02:57 AM
In my opinion Bailey Jay makes the most boring porn. POV porn sucks. It has limited angles. The camera man doesn't know what's he doing.:yayo:

:iagree: Doesn't she do that though because she doesn't want people to know who is doing her? She's so beautiful, it's a shame that she just limits herself to POV for hardcore.:(

TSPornFan
04-05-2011, 03:32 AM
:iagree: Doesn't she do that though because she doesn't want people to know who is doing her? She's so beautiful, it's a shame that she just limits herself to POV for hardcore.:(

She said it would break her fans' hearts to see someone fuck her. Really? That's the worst excuse I've ever heard. She'll never be a top star by doing POV.

theone1982
04-05-2011, 03:39 AM
She said it would break her fans' hearts to see someone fuck her. Really? That's the worst excuse I've ever heard. She'll never be a top star by doing POV.

Oh my god, she actually said that? That is the most piss-poor excuse I've ever heard! I'm sorry, but Bailey Jay seems stuck up to me, like she's too good for her fans, and then sort of leads them on with bullshit statements like that. Don't get me wrong, she's easily in the top 5 most beautiful TSs in porn, but I think she has sort of an attitude problem. In one of the Silvera vids she's in she calls the people jerking off to her "ugly faggots". Don't know if Silvera told her to say that so the viewers could feel like she was "dominating" them, but she looked like she meant it, and that's a really shitty thing to say.

GroobySteven
04-05-2011, 04:00 AM
Straight American porn mostly is story based. That could be why it sells so well.

It could be the fact that most people who like transsexual porn are more into gonzo porn than people who like straight porn. Just a theory.


I think a lot of people buying TS porn are into gonzo but also a lot of guys buying I believe identify with BEING the tgirl and not being the guy.
The straight market is obviously so much bigger than our market, a best selling title in our market wouldn't expect to sell more than 3000 copies in it's lifetime. Most sell far less.

theone1982
04-05-2011, 04:05 AM
I think a lot of people buying TS porn are into gonzo but also a lot of guys buying I believe identify with BEING the tgirl and not being the guy.
The straight market is obviously so much bigger than our market, a best selling title in our market wouldn't expect to sell more than 3000 copies in it's lifetime. Most sell far less.

That's interesting. Isn't TS porn considered to be within the straight market? I know it's never in the gay section anyplace that I've been to. Also, interesting point about guys identifying with being the TS while watching the porn. I can't say I've ever done that, in fact I fast forward most of the time during scenes where the man is being topped by the TS.

TSPornFan
04-05-2011, 04:22 AM
I think a lot of people buying TS porn are into gonzo but also a lot of guys buying I believe identify with BEING the tgirl and not being the guy.
The straight market is obviously so much bigger than our market, a best selling title in our market wouldn't expect to sell more than 3000 copies in it's lifetime. Most sell far less.

That's interesting. I've read sources stating that shemale porn is the best selling porn.

I think the straight market is bigger because there hasn't been a mega transsexual company. In my opinion transsexual porn has not lived up to its fullest potential. If a straight company like Brazzers added a shemale site than that would completely change the tranny market.

I must admit the American transsexual market has grown thanks to SMC, Strokers, Grooby, Devil Films, and Kink.

Dino Velvet
04-05-2011, 04:35 AM
I think a lot of people buying TS porn are into gonzo but also a lot of guys buying I believe identify with BEING the tgirl and not being the guy.
The straight market is obviously so much bigger than our market, a best selling title in our market wouldn't expect to sell more than 3000 copies in it's lifetime. Most sell far less.

If you didn't know already, I'm a Horror Movie guy. Love those movies since I was a kid. That doesn't mean I want wall-to-wall blood. I like violence but a little story development explaining why these people need to die might make things more satisfying and better quench my thirst.

Sorry I couldn't give you a porn example but everything I know about porn is from watching Boogie Nights and The Devil In Miss Jones Parts 3 & 4.

phobun
04-05-2011, 04:35 AM
but also a lot of guys buying I believe identify with BEING the tgirl and not being the guy.


Whoa

GroobySteven
04-05-2011, 04:38 AM
That's interesting. I've read sources stating that shemale porn is the best selling porn.
I believe it's one of the better selling but because of the limited amount of people buying, it's still small. Also people are more likely to buy their (potentially embarressing) TS porn on the internet and not on a DVD which can be easily found in the house.

theone1982
04-05-2011, 04:40 AM
I personally don't like storylines, so I think it's interesting that quite a few other people here do. Any time I see the story I hit the fast forward button. Maybe because most of the time it's so cheesy I'ts embarassing to watch.

Star Angel 86
04-05-2011, 05:01 AM
I believe it's one of the better selling but because of the limited amount of people buying, it's still small. Also people are more likely to buy their (potentially embarressing) TS porn on the internet and not on a DVD which can be easily found in the house.

It's funny that you bring the embarrassment aspect about TS porn because several years back AVN did interview with a person in charge of Robert Hill Releasing Company and he even went on to say a reason for the large sales was because people would purchase there videos and then get ride of them because they didn't want to be caught with them referring to TS porn.
Also back in the early 80's Sulka her videos were through mailorder and sold like hotcakes.
That's why I keep mentioning Joey Silvera and Evil Angel the both being firmly established with a large fanbase amongst the mainstream porn crowd.They did bring a whole audience of curiosity seekers that normally would not have had interest in TS porn.
I do feel TS porn has come a very long way as is over on the mainstream porn forum where I post at AdultDVDTalk there is a thread about TS porn that has reached 18 pages.That tells me people are more accepting of TS porn and talking about much more openly than in years past.

arnie666
04-05-2011, 07:35 AM
Brazillian porn has better looking girls generally than american porn but the one thing that makes me turn it off is all the annoying noise they make. AI AI AI...

Dino Velvet
04-05-2011, 08:16 AM
You know what I don't like about some sex scenes? Too damn long. I actually get bored watching and fast-forward until it gets closer to the end. Isn't it possible to make a 10 minute scene that's better than a 40 minute scene?

tvkim
04-05-2011, 08:54 AM
All this talk about HIV is the reason why I only do sex with toys and fists now.

Condoms split, guys get sticky fingers and put them where they shouldn't.

I love my life and want to keep it!

theone1982
04-05-2011, 09:40 AM
Brazillian porn has better looking girls generally than american porn but the one thing that makes me turn it off is all the annoying noise they make. AI AI AI...

Oh yeah, I call that a case of the OY OYs. They ALL do it!:) You can learn some interesting phrases in Portuguese.:)

theone1982
04-05-2011, 09:42 AM
You know what I don't like about some sex scenes? Too damn long. I actually get bored watching and fast-forward until it gets closer to the end. Isn't it possible to make a 10 minute scene that's better than a 40 minute scene?

Yeah! One scene shouldn't be longer than 30 minutes, or it becomes too repetitive.

Dino Velvet
04-05-2011, 09:55 AM
Yeah! One scene shouldn't be longer than 30 minutes, or it becomes too repetitive.

I jerk off so quick I can squeeze it in during the commercial break of Leno and be done hands washed before the band welcomes the audience back. I would split a 30 minute scene into 6 masturbation sessions.

theone1982
04-05-2011, 10:00 AM
I jerk off so quick I can squeeze it in during the commercial break of Leno and be done hands washed before the band welcomes the audience back. I would split a 30 minute scene into 6 masturbation sessions.

Most of the time the vast majority of time on a long scene is spent on foreplay anyway. The actual sex rarely goes over 15 minutes.

TJ347
04-05-2011, 10:34 AM
Some of the Brazilian girls look a bit rough what with the surgical scars and five o'clock shadows, but where American girls generally look better in that respect, they overwhelmingly look disinterested in having sex on camera. I can't get into Asian t-girl porn usually, as the body type doesn't work for me, but as was said earlier, there's gems in all of it if you're willing to sift through all the garbage.